Guest guest Posted January 8, 2002 Report Share Posted January 8, 2002 Hari Om, Now that we are approaching to a Retrogradation of Mercury (18th of Jan) all the astrologers on the different lists moan and groan.... this never fails. They even say that now we are already in the "shadow" of the retrogradation and it's a bad time to start something new, to sign contracts , to purchase stuff connected with communication (ie TV, computers etc...) . There are positives though such as re-tracing our steps , learning from the past experiecences and turning inward in general. Now from what I gathered the retrograde motion is viewed differently in Jyotish. I read that because the planet is closer to the Earth it is strengthened and more powerful. Could please someone explained to me : -- how a retrograde planet is weighted in the natal -- how a retrograde planet in transit (such as Mercury soon) would fair for all of us IE should we be careful with all our communications, refrain from signing important contracts.... Respectfully Bindu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2002 Report Share Posted January 8, 2002 Om Namo Bhagavate Jagannathaya Dear Bindu, Firstly, the Nodes are the cause of rebirth. A retrograde planet has its motion akin to the Nodes and hence they represent a curse from our previous birth. The nature of curse and the circumstances can be verified from the nature of planets and the houses they own in D-60. Ofcourse one needs to be an expert to decipher this chart accurately. Another effect of retrogression(as given by James Braha) is that the quality of the planet which is retrograde manifests internally, and a lot of effort or time is required for this to manifest externally. The Retrograde planet is powerful on the internal level. On the outer level it is never strong and active. It is neutral or passive. The externalization occurs if the person consciously decides to activate the energy of the planet. Effects of Retrogression works on the Natural(Karaka) level and Functional(House Rulership) level. Example: A person with Jupiter® is continually approaching matters from a philosophical context. A person with Venus® is constantly analyzing and thinking about Love, Pleasures etc. A native with Retrograde 5L will have the the 5H energy latent and may take time to have kids, the delay could be either in the form of not wanting to have kids or problem in conception. A native with Retrograde 7L may not feel the need to get married, and even if they want to, a lot of effort is required. Retrogression of 3L and 6L can make a person less-ambitious etc. Being closer to the earth, its effects are powerful in the sense that it would make you work harder for the results. This effort is what is known as Chestha. Hence a retrograde planet has Chestha Bala. So quite often retrogression energy may manifest as hobby(internal) during the first 30yrs. After 30, depending on the maturity of the individual, when the person starts using free-will and activates the energy, the energy manifests in the outside world. If the 10L is Retrograde, the person may be slow in choosing his career or actualize it. Generally retrogression of dusthana lords are considered good, as their malicious effects take time to actualize. Similarly, a debilitated planet which is also retrograde, takes time to manifest their negative effects, hence they say, that it behaves like an exalted planet, although I feel that this is innacurate. In short the it takes time for the person to acualize his/her abilities(depending on the planet, karaka and rulership) in the outside world. I feel that retrogression of planets relating to transits, work on the same level. A lot of effort is required. Old options are re- visited. Remember how a Retrograde planet behaves akin to Nodes, which are the cause of our re-birth. In the same way, during transit, retrogression of a planet, may indicate, a curse taking effect, and hence caution is generally advised and no new work is taken up. On the positive side, retrogression signals a chance given by God/Superunknown to reform, hence new oppurtunities are provided. Any mistaskes made previously can be rectified and lessons can be learnt. That is what everything boils down to. Karma & Re-birth. Finally, to summarize, Retrograde planets dont cause harm and they are not afflicted, but, they do slow down things and make for an introverted , rather than extroverted, energy. Hope this helps. Regards Narayan vedic astrology, "nadia" <NADIAK@O...> wrote: > Hari Om, > > Now that we are approaching to a Retrogradation of Mercury (18th of Jan) all > the astrologers on the different lists moan and groan.... this never fails. > They even say that now we are already in the "shadow" of the retrogradation > and it's a bad time to start something new, to sign contracts , to purchase > stuff connected with communication (ie TV, computers etc...) . There are > positives though such as re-tracing our steps , learning from the past > experiecences and turning inward in general. > > Now from what I gathered the retrograde motion is viewed differently in > Jyotish. I read that because the planet is closer to the Earth it is > strengthened and more powerful. Could please someone explained to me : > > -- how a retrograde planet is weighted in the natal > > -- how a retrograde planet in transit (such as Mercury soon) would fair for > all of us IE should we be careful with all our communications, refrain from > signing important contracts.... > > Respectfully > > Bindu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2002 Report Share Posted January 9, 2002 Naranyan, thanks a lot for your answer Bindu > Om Namo Bhagavate Jagannathaya > > Dear Bindu, > > Firstly, the Nodes are the cause of rebirth. A retrograde planet has > its motion akin to the Nodes and hence they represent a curse from > our previous birth. The nature of curse and the circumstances can be > verified from the nature of planets and the houses they own in D-60. > Ofcourse one needs to be an expert to decipher this chart accurately. > > Another effect of retrogression(as given by James Braha) is that the > quality of the planet which is retrograde manifests internally, and a > lot of effort or time is required for this to manifest externally. > The Retrograde planet is powerful on the internal level. On the outer > level it is never strong and active. It is neutral or passive. > > The externalization occurs if the person consciously decides to > activate the energy of the planet. Effects of Retrogression works on > the Natural(Karaka) level and Functional(House Rulership) level. > > Example: > > A person with Jupiter® is continually approaching matters from a > philosophical context. > > A person with Venus® is constantly analyzing and thinking about > Love, Pleasures etc. > > A native with Retrograde 5L will have the the 5H energy latent and > may take time to have kids, the delay could be either in the form of > not wanting to have kids or problem in conception. > > A native with Retrograde 7L may not feel the need to get married, and > even if they want to, a lot of effort is required. > > Retrogression of 3L and 6L can make a person less-ambitious etc. > > Being closer to the earth, its effects are powerful in the sense that > it would make you work harder for the results. This effort is what is > known as Chestha. Hence a retrograde planet has Chestha Bala. > > So quite often retrogression energy may manifest as hobby(internal) > during the first 30yrs. After 30, depending on the maturity of the > individual, when the person starts using free-will and activates the > energy, the energy manifests in the outside world. > > If the 10L is Retrograde, the person may be slow in choosing his > career or actualize it. > > Generally retrogression of dusthana lords are considered good, as > their malicious effects take time to actualize. > > Similarly, a debilitated planet which is also retrograde, takes time > to manifest their negative effects, hence they say, that it behaves > like an exalted planet, although I feel that this is innacurate. > > In short the it takes time for the person to acualize his/her > abilities(depending on the planet, karaka and rulership) in the > outside world. > > I feel that retrogression of planets relating to transits, work on > the same level. A lot of effort is required. Old options are re- > visited. Remember how a Retrograde planet behaves akin to Nodes, > which are the cause of our re-birth. In the same way, during transit, > retrogression of a planet, may indicate, a curse taking effect, and > hence caution is generally advised and no new work is taken up. > > On the positive side, retrogression signals a chance given by > God/Superunknown to reform, hence new oppurtunities are provided. Any > mistaskes made previously can be rectified and lessons can be learnt. > That is what everything boils down to. Karma & Re-birth. > > Finally, to summarize, Retrograde planets dont cause harm and they > are not afflicted, but, they do slow down things and make for an > introverted , rather than extroverted, energy. > > Hope this helps. > > Regards > Narayan > > vedic astrology, "nadia" <NADIAK@O...> wrote: > > Hari Om, > > > > Now that we are approaching to a Retrogradation of Mercury (18th of > Jan) all > > the astrologers on the different lists moan and groan.... this > never fails. > > They even say that now we are already in the "shadow" of the > retrogradation > > and it's a bad time to start something new, to sign contracts , to > purchase > > stuff connected with communication (ie TV, computers etc...) . > There are > > positives though such as re-tracing our steps , learning from the > past > > experiecences and turning inward in general. > > > > Now from what I gathered the retrograde motion is viewed > differently in > > Jyotish. I read that because the planet is closer to the Earth it is > > strengthened and more powerful. Could please someone explained to > me : > > > > -- how a retrograde planet is weighted in the natal > > > > -- how a retrograde planet in transit (such as Mercury soon) would > fair for > > all of us IE should we be careful with all our communications, > refrain from > > signing important contracts.... > > > > Respectfully > > > > Bindu > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2002 Report Share Posted January 10, 2002 OM SRI GURAVE NAMAH ==================== Namaskar Narayanji, Beautiful. I have never come across such a pragmatic- information -packed article on retrograde planets. Thank you for the gift. Regards Dilip. - iyergroups vedic astrology Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:24 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Question about Retrogrades Om Namo Bhagavate JagannathayaDear Bindu,Firstly, the Nodes are the cause of rebirth. A retrograde planet has its motion akin to the Nodes and hence they represent a curse from our previous birth. The nature of curse and the circumstances can be verified from the nature of planets and the houses they own in D-60. Ofcourse one needs to be an expert to decipher this chart accurately.Another effect of retrogression(as given by James Braha) is that the quality of the planet which is retrograde manifests internally, and a lot of effort or time is required for this to manifest externally. The Retrograde planet is powerful on the internal level. On the outer level it is never strong and active. It is neutral or passive.The externalization occurs if the person consciously decides to activate the energy of the planet. Effects of Retrogression works on the Natural(Karaka) level and Functional(House Rulership) level.Example: A person with Jupiter® is continually approaching matters from a philosophical context.A person with Venus® is constantly analyzing and thinking about Love, Pleasures etc. A native with Retrograde 5L will have the the 5H energy latent and may take time to have kids, the delay could be either in the form of not wanting to have kids or problem in conception. A native with Retrograde 7L may not feel the need to get married, and even if they want to, a lot of effort is required. Retrogression of 3L and 6L can make a person less-ambitious etc.Being closer to the earth, its effects are powerful in the sense that it would make you work harder for the results. This effort is what is known as Chestha. Hence a retrograde planet has Chestha Bala. So quite often retrogression energy may manifest as hobby(internal) during the first 30yrs. After 30, depending on the maturity of the individual, when the person starts using free-will and activates the energy, the energy manifests in the outside world.If the 10L is Retrograde, the person may be slow in choosing his career or actualize it.Generally retrogression of dusthana lords are considered good, as their malicious effects take time to actualize.Similarly, a debilitated planet which is also retrograde, takes time to manifest their negative effects, hence they say, that it behaves like an exalted planet, although I feel that this is innacurate.In short the it takes time for the person to acualize his/her abilities(depending on the planet, karaka and rulership) in the outside world.I feel that retrogression of planets relating to transits, work on the same level. A lot of effort is required. Old options are re-visited. Remember how a Retrograde planet behaves akin to Nodes, which are the cause of our re-birth. In the same way, during transit, retrogression of a planet, may indicate, a curse taking effect, and hence caution is generally advised and no new work is taken up. On the positive side, retrogression signals a chance given by God/Superunknown to reform, hence new oppurtunities are provided. Any mistaskes made previously can be rectified and lessons can be learnt. That is what everything boils down to. Karma & Re-birth.Finally, to summarize, Retrograde planets dont cause harm and they are not afflicted, but, they do slow down things and make for an introverted , rather than extroverted, energy.Hope this helps.RegardsNarayan--- In vedic astrology, "nadia" <NADIAK@O...> wrote:> Hari Om,> > Now that we are approaching to a Retrogradation of Mercury (18th of Jan) all> the astrologers on the different lists moan and groan.... this never fails.> They even say that now we are already in the "shadow" of the retrogradation> and it's a bad time to start something new, to sign contracts , to purchase> stuff connected with communication (ie TV, computers etc...) . There are> positives though such as re-tracing our steps , learning from the past> experiecences and turning inward in general.> > Now from what I gathered the retrograde motion is viewed differently in> Jyotish. I read that because the planet is closer to the Earth it is> strengthened and more powerful. Could please someone explained to me :> > -- how a retrograde planet is weighted in the natal> > -- how a retrograde planet in transit (such as Mercury soon) would fair for> all of us IE should we be careful with all our communications, refrain from> signing important contracts....> > Respectfully> > BinduArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2002 Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 Dear Naranyan, What would you say about a the state of Jupiter when; 1) Jupiter is badhak lord 2) Jupiter is lord of 4th and 7th house 3) Jupiter is retrograde 4) jupiter is in capricorn (fallen) with Saturn. Lagna is virgo. I just entered the jupiter period and wondering what jupiter might cause in my life. Kind regards, Raghunatha - "nadia" <NADIAK <vedic astrology> Wednesday, January 09, 2002 8:45 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Question about Retrogrades > > Naranyan, thanks a lot for your answer > > Bindu > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Jagannathaya > > > > Dear Bindu, > > > > Firstly, the Nodes are the cause of rebirth. A retrograde planet has > > its motion akin to the Nodes and hence they represent a curse from > > our previous birth. The nature of curse and the circumstances can be > > verified from the nature of planets and the houses they own in D-60. > > Ofcourse one needs to be an expert to decipher this chart accurately. > > > > Another effect of retrogression(as given by James Braha) is that the > > quality of the planet which is retrograde manifests internally, and a > > lot of effort or time is required for this to manifest externally. > > The Retrograde planet is powerful on the internal level. On the outer > > level it is never strong and active. It is neutral or passive. > > > > The externalization occurs if the person consciously decides to > > activate the energy of the planet. Effects of Retrogression works on > > the Natural(Karaka) level and Functional(House Rulership) level. > > > > Example: > > > > A person with Jupiter® is continually approaching matters from a > > philosophical context. > > > > A person with Venus® is constantly analyzing and thinking about > > Love, Pleasures etc. > > > > A native with Retrograde 5L will have the the 5H energy latent and > > may take time to have kids, the delay could be either in the form of > > not wanting to have kids or problem in conception. > > > > A native with Retrograde 7L may not feel the need to get married, and > > even if they want to, a lot of effort is required. > > > > Retrogression of 3L and 6L can make a person less-ambitious etc. > > > > Being closer to the earth, its effects are powerful in the sense that > > it would make you work harder for the results. This effort is what is > > known as Chestha. Hence a retrograde planet has Chestha Bala. > > > > So quite often retrogression energy may manifest as hobby(internal) > > during the first 30yrs. After 30, depending on the maturity of the > > individual, when the person starts using free-will and activates the > > energy, the energy manifests in the outside world. > > > > If the 10L is Retrograde, the person may be slow in choosing his > > career or actualize it. > > > > Generally retrogression of dusthana lords are considered good, as > > their malicious effects take time to actualize. > > > > Similarly, a debilitated planet which is also retrograde, takes time > > to manifest their negative effects, hence they say, that it behaves > > like an exalted planet, although I feel that this is innacurate. > > > > In short the it takes time for the person to acualize his/her > > abilities(depending on the planet, karaka and rulership) in the > > outside world. > > > > I feel that retrogression of planets relating to transits, work on > > the same level. A lot of effort is required. Old options are re- > > visited. Remember how a Retrograde planet behaves akin to Nodes, > > which are the cause of our re-birth. In the same way, during transit, > > retrogression of a planet, may indicate, a curse taking effect, and > > hence caution is generally advised and no new work is taken up. > > > > On the positive side, retrogression signals a chance given by > > God/Superunknown to reform, hence new oppurtunities are provided. Any > > mistaskes made previously can be rectified and lessons can be learnt. > > That is what everything boils down to. Karma & Re-birth. > > > > Finally, to summarize, Retrograde planets dont cause harm and they > > are not afflicted, but, they do slow down things and make for an > > introverted , rather than extroverted, energy. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Regards > > Narayan > > > > vedic astrology, "nadia" <NADIAK@O...> wrote: > > > Hari Om, > > > > > > Now that we are approaching to a Retrogradation of Mercury (18th of > > Jan) all > > > the astrologers on the different lists moan and groan.... this > > never fails. > > > They even say that now we are already in the "shadow" of the > > retrogradation > > > and it's a bad time to start something new, to sign contracts , to > > purchase > > > stuff connected with communication (ie TV, computers etc...) . > > There are > > > positives though such as re-tracing our steps , learning from the > > past > > > experiecences and turning inward in general. > > > > > > Now from what I gathered the retrograde motion is viewed > > differently in > > > Jyotish. I read that because the planet is closer to the Earth it is > > > strengthened and more powerful. Could please someone explained to > > me : > > > > > > -- how a retrograde planet is weighted in the natal > > > > > > -- how a retrograde planet in transit (such as Mercury soon) would > > fair for > > > all of us IE should we be careful with all our communications, > > refrain from > > > signing important contracts.... > > > > > > Respectfully > > > > > > Bindu > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2002 Report Share Posted January 13, 2002 Dear Narayan, Let me begin by saying that I am new to the group and this is my first post. A very long time ago I had briefly d for a month or so but I feel now I am better equipped to do so. Let me begin by saying that I loved your long post on retrogrades, especially about natal retrogrades. I see an immediate correlation with my retro Saturn which is in the 10H, also happening to be his own house. As you describe there has been tremendous delay in actualization of my career and it is only now, at age 39 and a 1/2 years that I feel that it is beginning to concretize. But Bindu's question remains unanswered. Truly all horoscopic prediction specially those of the tropical zodiac, constantly harp on not signing contracts, undertake projects, begin anything new during transiting Mercury retro. How far is this true? Tropical zodiac practitioners seem to have a fetish about it. Personally I sometimes have felt Transit merc retros to be quite beneficial and a couple of time disastrous. The beneficial transits have enabled me to finish/redo things which I have started, like pending writing work, finishing projects, finishing cleaning of rooms which were abandoned halfway etc. So is merc retro very often about redoing, reiterating, going over the path once more? Of course, all depending upon other transits and natal chart? Regards, Sarbani Attachment: vcard [not shown] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2002 Report Share Posted January 13, 2002 M namoH bhagavate jagannaathaaya Dear Sarbani, Yes, Retrograde Saturn can do that. As Saturn is one of the chief significators of Job/Career apart from Sun, Mercury & Jupiter. Being placed in 10H more so. I too know a case of twins with Saturn® in 10H, and it proved true for them too. They are still trying to settle down, each making a career totally divorced from their education. Coming to your point of Mercury®, I agree with you, and is consistent to the point I made, and that is, transit Mercury® may not always prove harmful, it can also help in providing closure on topics that were left in limbo. This is where free-will comes to play (I think), and the native can exercise his options wisely after considering all avenues!!! i.e. It allows time to catch up. I can give you an example which happened to me recently. I wanted to relocate in the hope of better job prospects, perhaps my decision was an impuslive one. Although the planning was done during Mercury Direct, the move was done during Mercury®. What happened was when I reached the destination, my apartment was not ready, I was fored to stay for 15 days in a hotel, with no way to get organized. Had to drive for 25 miles to get access to internet!!! One thing to note here is in my chart Mercury is Retrograde. Apart from that, at that time Saturn also went Retrograde. Now, Saturn rules my 4H of residence in D-4(Chaturthaamsa, Fortune&Reidence), and is placed in 4H!!! So we have to see the natal significations too. Ofcourse, these are my opinion and they may not be true, then again, they maybe. Take it with a grain/pinch of salt. Regards Narayan vedic astrology, Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani@v...> wrote: > Dear Narayan, > > Let me begin by saying that I am new to the group and this is my first > post. A very long time ago I had briefly d for a month or so > but I feel now I am better equipped to do so. Let me begin by saying > that I loved your long post on retrogrades, especially about natal > retrogrades. I see an immediate correlation with my retro Saturn which > is in the 10H, also happening to be his own house. As you describe there > has been tremendous delay in actualization of my career and it is only > now, at age 39 and a 1/2 years that I feel that it is beginning to > concretize. But Bindu's question remains unanswered. Truly all > horoscopic prediction specially those of the tropical zodiac, constantly > harp on not signing contracts, undertake projects, begin anything new > during transiting Mercury retro. How far is this true? Tropical zodiac > practitioners seem to have a fetish about it. Personally I sometimes > have felt Transit merc retros to be quite beneficial and a couple of > time disastrous. The beneficial transits have enabled me to finish/redo > things which I have started, like pending writing work, finishing > projects, finishing cleaning of rooms which were abandoned halfway etc. > So is merc retro very often about redoing, reiterating, going over the > path once more? Of course, all depending upon other transits and natal > chart? > > Regards, > > Sarbani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2002 Report Share Posted January 13, 2002 JAYA JAGANNATHA! Dear Raghunath prabhu, Hare Krishna. > Dear Naranyan, > > What would you say about a the state of Jupiter when; > 1) Jupiter is badhak lord A wise man (maybe a brahmin) will obstruct the significations of the huse towards which he is Badhakesh. > 2) Jupiter is lord of 4th and 7th house He is affected by Kedradhipati dosha, so his favuorable effects will be limited. > 3) Jupiter is retrograde This stranghtens his influence, however delays results. > 4) jupiter is in capricorn (fallen) with Saturn. Saturn acts as Neechabhanga planet here, but you should see Jupiter's Navamsha position, and his overall strenght in Vargas. > Lagna is virgo. I just entered the jupiter period and wondering what For one thing, it may slow down the studying processes and also make your relationship with your children difficult. Try to stya simple in your deailgns and accept the difficulties as Krsna's mercy. Because in this position Jupiter will tend to inspire you to make some intellectual effort to solve the above problems, but it will entangle them more instead. Yours, Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga Jyotish Remedies: WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone:+36-309-140-839 > jupiter might cause in my life. > > Kind regards, > Raghunatha > > - > "nadia" <NADIAK > <vedic astrology> > Wednesday, January 09, 2002 8:45 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Question about Retrogrades > > > > > > Naranyan, thanks a lot for your answer > > > > Bindu > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Jagannathaya > > > > > > Dear Bindu, > > > > > > Firstly, the Nodes are the cause of rebirth. A retrograde planet has > > > its motion akin to the Nodes and hence they represent a curse from > > > our previous birth. The nature of curse and the circumstances can be > > > verified from the nature of planets and the houses they own in D-60. > > > Ofcourse one needs to be an expert to decipher this chart accurately. > > > > > > Another effect of retrogression(as given by James Braha) is that the > > > quality of the planet which is retrograde manifests internally, and a > > > lot of effort or time is required for this to manifest externally. > > > The Retrograde planet is powerful on the internal level. On the outer > > > level it is never strong and active. It is neutral or passive. > > > > > > The externalization occurs if the person consciously decides to > > > activate the energy of the planet. Effects of Retrogression works on > > > the Natural(Karaka) level and Functional(House Rulership) level. > > > > > > Example: > > > > > > A person with Jupiter® is continually approaching matters from a > > > philosophical context. > > > > > > A person with Venus® is constantly analyzing and thinking about > > > Love, Pleasures etc. > > > > > > A native with Retrograde 5L will have the the 5H energy latent and > > > may take time to have kids, the delay could be either in the form of > > > not wanting to have kids or problem in conception. > > > > > > A native with Retrograde 7L may not feel the need to get married, and > > > even if they want to, a lot of effort is required. > > > > > > Retrogression of 3L and 6L can make a person less-ambitious etc. > > > > > > Being closer to the earth, its effects are powerful in the sense that > > > it would make you work harder for the results. This effort is what is > > > known as Chestha. Hence a retrograde planet has Chestha Bala. > > > > > > So quite often retrogression energy may manifest as hobby(internal) > > > during the first 30yrs. After 30, depending on the maturity of the > > > individual, when the person starts using free-will and activates the > > > energy, the energy manifests in the outside world. > > > > > > If the 10L is Retrograde, the person may be slow in choosing his > > > career or actualize it. > > > > > > Generally retrogression of dusthana lords are considered good, as > > > their malicious effects take time to actualize. > > > > > > Similarly, a debilitated planet which is also retrograde, takes time > > > to manifest their negative effects, hence they say, that it behaves > > > like an exalted planet, although I feel that this is innacurate. > > > > > > In short the it takes time for the person to acualize his/her > > > abilities(depending on the planet, karaka and rulership) in the > > > outside world. > > > > > > I feel that retrogression of planets relating to transits, work on > > > the same level. A lot of effort is required. Old options are re- > > > visited. Remember how a Retrograde planet behaves akin to Nodes, > > > which are the cause of our re-birth. In the same way, during transit, > > > retrogression of a planet, may indicate, a curse taking effect, and > > > hence caution is generally advised and no new work is taken up. > > > > > > On the positive side, retrogression signals a chance given by > > > God/Superunknown to reform, hence new oppurtunities are provided. Any > > > mistaskes made previously can be rectified and lessons can be learnt. > > > That is what everything boils down to. Karma & Re-birth. > > > > > > Finally, to summarize, Retrograde planets dont cause harm and they > > > are not afflicted, but, they do slow down things and make for an > > > introverted , rather than extroverted, energy. > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > Regards > > > Narayan > > > > > > vedic astrology, "nadia" <NADIAK@O...> wrote: > > > > Hari Om, > > > > > > > > Now that we are approaching to a Retrogradation of Mercury (18th of > > > Jan) all > > > > the astrologers on the different lists moan and groan.... this > > > never fails. > > > > They even say that now we are already in the "shadow" of the > > > retrogradation > > > > and it's a bad time to start something new, to sign contracts , to > > > purchase > > > > stuff connected with communication (ie TV, computers etc...) . > > > There are > > > > positives though such as re-tracing our steps , learning from the > > > past > > > > experiecences and turning inward in general. > > > > > > > > Now from what I gathered the retrograde motion is viewed > > > differently in > > > > Jyotish. I read that because the planet is closer to the Earth it is > > > > strengthened and more powerful. Could please someone explained to > > > me : > > > > > > > > -- how a retrograde planet is weighted in the natal > > > > > > > > -- how a retrograde planet in transit (such as Mercury soon) would > > > fair for > > > > all of us IE should we be careful with all our communications, > > > refrain from > > > > signing important contracts.... > > > > > > > > Respectfully > > > > > > > > Bindu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > _______ Get your free @ address at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2002 Report Share Posted January 13, 2002 Hare Krsna Gurudeva, > > What would you say about a the state of Jupiter when;> > 1) Jupiter is badhak lord> > A wise man (maybe a brahmin) will obstruct the significations of the huse> towards which he is Badhakesh. Jupiter is lord of house 7 placed in house 5. What will be obstructed house 7 or house 5? > > 2) Jupiter is lord of 4th and 7th house> > He is affected by Kedradhipati dosha, so his favuorable effects will be> limited.> > > 3) Jupiter is retrograde> > This stranghtens his influence, however delays results.> > > 4) jupiter is in capricorn (fallen) with Saturn.> > Saturn acts as Neechabhanga planet here, but you should see Jupiter's> Navamsha position, and his overall strenght in Vargas.> > > Lagna is virgo. I just entered the jupiter period and wondering what> > For one thing, it may slow down the studying processes and also make your> relationship with your children difficult. Try to stya simple in your> deailgns and accept the difficulties as Krsna's mercy. Because in this> position Jupiter will tend to inspire you to make some intellectual effort> to solve the above problems, but it will entangle them more instead. Does Jupiter retrograde also means that I have committed guru aparadh in past live. If I take jupiter: badhak: negative Kendradipati dosa: negative Jupiter is 5" Cp (infant stage): negative Retrograde: positive Fallen but neechabhanga: positive Lord of sign in same house: positive Can I add them up to a overall conclution that my Jupiter is not so bad. Their are two parties who wants me to join with them in two different educational institute. So I am wandering how it is possible with such a Jupiter. Or will these companies distract me from my path to Lord Krsna. Is that what my Jupiter tries to accomplish? I am studying a lot, it seems that I am more able to study. Since one year I have been struggling to make a educational programm for devotees. Now it became more easy the devotees were glad with the presentation I made and within a few month we will implement the new educational programm for devotees in Holland. You see my Jupiter seems to give me positive results and I donot know why? Your servant, Raghunatha Dasa > > Yours,> > Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer> gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net> Jyotish Remedies:> WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET> Phone:+36-309-140-839> > > > jupiter might cause in my life.> >> > Kind regards,> > Raghunatha> >> > ----- Original Message -----> > "nadia" <NADIAK (AT) OTENET (DOT) GR>> > To: <vedic astrology>> > Wednesday, January 09, 2002 8:45 PM> > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Question about Retrogrades> >> >> > >> > > Naranyan, thanks a lot for your answer> > >> > > Bindu> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Jagannathaya> > > >> > > > Dear Bindu,> > > >> > > > Firstly, the Nodes are the cause of rebirth. A retrograde planet has> > > > its motion akin to the Nodes and hence they represent a curse from> > > > our previous birth. The nature of curse and the circumstances can be> > > > verified from the nature of planets and the houses they own in D-60.> > > > Ofcourse one needs to be an expert to decipher this chart accurately.> > > >> > > > Another effect of retrogression(as given by James Braha) is that the> > > > quality of the planet which is retrograde manifests internally, and a> > > > lot of effort or time is required for this to manifest externally.> > > > The Retrograde planet is powerful on the internal level. On the outer> > > > level it is never strong and active. It is neutral or passive.> > > >> > > > The externalization occurs if the person consciously decides to> > > > activate the energy of the planet. Effects of Retrogression works on> > > > the Natural(Karaka) level and Functional(House Rulership) level.> > > >> > > > Example:> > > >> > > > A person with Jupiter® is continually approaching matters from a> > > > philosophical context.> > > >> > > > A person with Venus® is constantly analyzing and thinking about> > > > Love, Pleasures etc.> > > >> > > > A native with Retrograde 5L will have the the 5H energy latent and> > > > may take time to have kids, the delay could be either in the form of> > > > not wanting to have kids or problem in conception.> > > >> > > > A native with Retrograde 7L may not feel the need to get married, and> > > > even if they want to, a lot of effort is required.> > > >> > > > Retrogression of 3L and 6L can make a person less-ambitious etc.> > > >> > > > Being closer to the earth, its effects are powerful in the sense that> > > > it would make you work harder for the results. This effort is what is> > > > known as Chestha. Hence a retrograde planet has Chestha Bala.> > > >> > > > So quite often retrogression energy may manifest as hobby(internal)> > > > during the first 30yrs. After 30, depending on the maturity of the> > > > individual, when the person starts using free-will and activates the> > > > energy, the energy manifests in the outside world.> > > >> > > > If the 10L is Retrograde, the person may be slow in choosing his> > > > career or actualize it.> > > >> > > > Generally retrogression of dusthana lords are considered good, as> > > > their malicious effects take time to actualize.> > > >> > > > Similarly, a debilitated planet which is also retrograde, takes time> > > > to manifest their negative effects, hence they say, that it behaves> > > > like an exalted planet, although I feel that this is innacurate.> > > >> > > > In short the it takes time for the person to acualize his/her> > > > abilities(depending on the planet, karaka and rulership) in the> > > > outside world.> > > >> > > > I feel that retrogression of planets relating to transits, work on> > > > the same level. A lot of effort is required. Old options are re-> > > > visited. Remember how a Retrograde planet behaves akin to Nodes,> > > > which are the cause of our re-birth. In the same way, during transit,> > > > retrogression of a planet, may indicate, a curse taking effect, and> > > > hence caution is generally advised and no new work is taken up.> > > >> > > > On the positive side, retrogression signals a chance given by> > > > God/Superunknown to reform, hence new oppurtunities are provided. Any> > > > mistaskes made previously can be rectified and lessons can be learnt.> > > > That is what everything boils down to. Karma & Re-birth.> > > >> > > > Finally, to summarize, Retrograde planets dont cause harm and they> > > > are not afflicted, but, they do slow down things and make for an> > > > introverted , rather than extroverted, energy.> > > >> > > > Hope this helps.> > > >> > > > Regards> > > > Narayan> > > >> > > > vedic astrology, "nadia" <NADIAK@O...> wrote:> > > > > Hari Om,> > > > >> > > > > Now that we are approaching to a Retrogradation of Mercury (18th of> > > > Jan) all> > > > > the astrologers on the different lists moan and groan.... this> > > > never fails.> > > > > They even say that now we are already in the "shadow" of the> > > > retrogradation> > > > > and it's a bad time to start something new, to sign contracts , to> > > > purchase> > > > > stuff connected with communication (ie TV, computers etc...) .> > > > There are> > > > > positives though such as re-tracing our steps , learning from the> > > > past> > > > > experiecences and turning inward in general.> > > > >> > > > > Now from what I gathered the retrograde motion is viewed> > > > differently in> > > > > Jyotish. I read that because the planet is closer to the Earth it is> > > > > strengthened and more powerful. Could please someone explained to> > > > me :> > > > >> > > > > -- how a retrograde planet is weighted in the natal> > > > >> > > > > -- how a retrograde planet in transit (such as Mercury soon) would> > > > fair for> > > > > all of us IE should we be careful with all our communications,> > > > refrain from> > > > > signing important contracts....> > > > >> > > > > Respectfully> > > > >> > > > > Bindu> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Archives: vedic astrology> > >> > > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > >> > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > >> > > > > >> > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||> > >> > > Your use of is subject to> > > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> > Archives: vedic astrology> >> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> >> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> >> > ....... 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