Kalas,dear visti(from discussions from Ramas chart)

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dear visti

 

you are technically wrong when you say that rama and krishna had some

rajo guna. this doesnot sound good. they are avataars for a purpose.

Thier actions cannot be compared to that of simple humans. For every

action they performed their is a reason.

 

i will give you a simple analogy

 

see many people talk about the killing of vaali by rama.

 

Vaali represents the inner desires that are too great to vanquish.

The insatiable desires are represented by vaali.

 

A person cannot sit in the front of a tv and watch all kind of stuff

and say that he can conquor indriyas(senses)

 

you have to conquor the senses by avaoiding such impulses, in

retrospect you have to attack them from behind.

 

 

Rama is purshottama, he is the god. he represents the atman in

ramayana, he conqours the senses(vaali) with the help of sugrreva(the

facilitator).

 

the whole ramayana is full of symbolism. dont equate the actions of

gods with that of ordinary people..

 

regards

partha

 

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <in_joy_i_scream>

wrote:

> Vyam Vysadevaya Namah!

> ----------------------

> Dear Sarajit,

> I was referring to the fact, that anyone born on earth has been

born through

> Rajas Guna, as we are created by Lord Brahma.

>

> Without Rajas Guna, we cannot be born as indviduals due to our

false ego.

> I agree that Rama and Krishna didn't have much of this, but yet

they were

> there.

>

> Best wishes, Visti.

> -

> Sarajit Poddar

> vedic astrology

> Tuesday, January 08, 2002 5:55 AM

> Re: [vedic astrology] Kalas, and miscelleanous (from

discussions

> from Ramas chart)

>

>

> Hare Rama Krsna

> Dear Visti!

>

> You wrote

>

> I'm trying to hint at the fact that The Lord was born with two

arms and

> two legs, just like other Human incarnations, hence he must have

been

> afflicted with a certain ammount of Rajas Guna, like the rest of

us, to be

> able to reside here on earth. He must still have a very high

ammount of

> Sattwa Guna thou. Just enough Rajas Guna to be born, loose a wife,

kill

> Ravana and what not.

>

> Mere killing somebody like Ravana doesn't show that Rama was

afflicted

> by Rajo Guna. The outcome (killing) doesn't determine what Guna one

has in

> predominance, however the attitude with which one is performing

those

> actions will determine under which Guna the person has performed

the act. If

> the person is killing someone with anger in his mind, then you

might say

> that he has predominance of Rajo Guna (Fire), whereas Rama already

knew the

> fate of Ravana and he was just playing his leela and hence he had

the

> predominance of Sattwa.

>

> Krsna who born as god thyself, with all the 16 kalas, can't

have any

> other Guna other than Sattwa, even though he killed so many

rakshashas,

> during his period.

>

> Regards

> Sarajit

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Dear Partha,

 

Ram and Krishna are avtars of god that took the form of a human being

and did the deeds that we humans can try to understand and

comphrehended and relate to with our limited intellegence.

 

Do you really think that we humans in kali yuga can really do justice

to the charts of human form of god ?

 

Cheers !!!

Just my penny,

Ash

 

vedic astrology, "partvinu5" <partvinu5> wrote:

> dear visti

>

> you are technically wrong when you say that rama and krishna had

some

> rajo guna. this doesnot sound good. they are avataars for a

purpose.

> Thier actions cannot be compared to that of simple humans. For

every

> action they performed their is a reason.

>

> i will give you a simple analogy

>

> see many people talk about the killing of vaali by rama.

>

> Vaali represents the inner desires that are too great to vanquish.

> The insatiable desires are represented by vaali.

>

> A person cannot sit in the front of a tv and watch all kind of

stuff

> and say that he can conquor indriyas(senses)

>

> you have to conquor the senses by avaoiding such impulses, in

> retrospect you have to attack them from behind.

>

>

> Rama is purshottama, he is the god. he represents the atman in

> ramayana, he conqours the senses(vaali) with the help of sugrreva

(the

> facilitator).

>

> the whole ramayana is full of symbolism. dont equate the actions of

> gods with that of ordinary people..

>

> regards

> partha

>

>

>

>

>

> vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <in_joy_i_scream>

> wrote:

> > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah!

> > ----------------------

> > Dear Sarajit,

> > I was referring to the fact, that anyone born on earth has been

> born through

> > Rajas Guna, as we are created by Lord Brahma.

> >

> > Without Rajas Guna, we cannot be born as indviduals due to our

> false ego.

> > I agree that Rama and Krishna didn't have much of this, but yet

> they were

> > there.

> >

> > Best wishes, Visti.

> > -

> > Sarajit Poddar

> > vedic astrology

> > Tuesday, January 08, 2002 5:55 AM

> > Re: [vedic astrology] Kalas, and miscelleanous (from

> discussions

> > from Ramas chart)

> >

> >

> > Hare Rama Krsna

> > Dear Visti!

> >

> > You wrote

> >

> > I'm trying to hint at the fact that The Lord was born with

two

> arms and

> > two legs, just like other Human incarnations, hence he must have

> been

> > afflicted with a certain ammount of Rajas Guna, like the rest of

> us, to be

> > able to reside here on earth. He must still have a very high

> ammount of

> > Sattwa Guna thou. Just enough Rajas Guna to be born, loose a

wife,

> kill

> > Ravana and what not.

> >

> > Mere killing somebody like Ravana doesn't show that Rama was

> afflicted

> > by Rajo Guna. The outcome (killing) doesn't determine what Guna

one

> has in

> > predominance, however the attitude with which one is performing

> those

> > actions will determine under which Guna the person has performed

> the act. If

> > the person is killing someone with anger in his mind, then you

> might say

> > that he has predominance of Rajo Guna (Fire), whereas Rama

already

> knew the

> > fate of Ravana and he was just playing his leela and hence he had

> the

> > predominance of Sattwa.

> >

> > Krsna who born as god thyself, with all the 16 kalas, can't

> have any

> > other Guna other than Sattwa, even though he killed so many

> rakshashas,

> > during his period.

> >

> > Regards

> > Sarajit

> >

> > Sponsor

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