Guest guest Posted December 31, 2001 Report Share Posted December 31, 2001 Hare Rama Krsna. ***Happy Newyear 2002!!!*** Following are some questions in regard to Jesus' chart. I'll have a try to answer these. Please advise if I don't have the full picture right. Regarding Narayan's message, Jupiter in Aries shows the newborn KIng of Judea (JUp=atmakaraka) and Sun being in the 10th indicates rise to the throne. Remarkable is also that in crucifixion chart Jupiter and Sun are together in Aries, since He was "crowned" King of Judea at that time. First I want to say that I believe the Libra lagna is right, since Jesus is said to have been born at midnight. In particular Jupiter (His star= atmakaraka) will have been seen at that time setting in the Western sky, and could be the star that showed the way to the 3 Wise Men from the East. In Christian church as well as in Orthodox Church a midnight mass is celebrated on Christmas. Why at midnight and not 3 am for example? Because Jesus was born exactly at or at least around midnight! In Orthodox Church there is even a 5-hours ceremony starting at 11 pm with an introduction and at exactly midnight they start with the ceremony by circumambulating the Church. So shouldn't we accept midnight to be the exact time? I have a Libra lagna for the date I have earlier given (new chart is attached as well as crucifixion-chart) in 3rd drekkan, indicating a teacher, in particular a religious teacher - drekkan lord Mercury is in 5th with lagna lord aspected by Jupiter and the 5th lords and Mercury is also 9th lord. >The virgin birth - the purity of Mary the mother of Jesus. Moon is in the 4th with Sun, aspected by 4th lord and its dispositor, Mars. 5th and 9th lords from the Moon in the 2nd from Moon. 4th from Arudha lagna is Virgo, its lord Mercury is aspected by the Brahma Yoga. I think that's sufficient to prove Mary's purity? >The threat to the baby from Herod causing flight toEgypt. Moon also represents infancy (up to the age of 4), so the aspect of Mars (maraka lord) on it can lead to the danger of the infant, yet Sun (father) and 4th lords aspect (mother) protects and leads to going abroad (Moon in 12th from lagna lord and Sun -8th from Moon- brings the change -result: the escape to Egypt -Capricorn 10th house of the natural zodiac indicating southern direction) >The strong association with fishing and fishermen. 10th house and 7th from A7 is a watery sign, Cancer. >The large family of five brothers and a number of sisters (cf. Mark & >Matthew). Rahu and Jupiter aspect on both 11th and 3rd houses. Saturn wouldn't harm, since it's 4th and 5th lord. I'll leave the drekkan chart to others, since I'm not expert. >The divine nature of Jesus Christ, Son of God. There is the Brahma Yoga in 7th house. 9th lord in the 5th and 5th from AL in 9th from AL is quite auspicious. >The mystery of Father, Son and Holy Ghost - the Trinity. A guess - Jupiter (father), Saturn 5th lord having the lagna lord (Son) and Rahu (Holy Spirit) in 7th house? >The miraculous powers - healing thousands of people who weresuffering >from terrible diseases, feeding the 5000, casting out of devils,stilling >the sea and walking on water, turning water into wine, effectingmiracles >from afar. Sun, 8th from the Moon conjoining the Moon, Moon in 8th from AL, Venus, 8th lord in 5th with AL lord and Saturn and Rahu aspecting,definitely would give proficiency in occult knowledge and powers. >The conflict with authority. The crucifixion. The resurrection from the >dead. Venus, 8th lord conjoined Mercury, 9th lord in the 5th. Conflict with authority. Crucifixion: A6 in the 8th with the maraka's Mars-Ketu in Libra lagna? Resurrection: atmakaraka Jupiter aspecting on the lagna lord Venus and 12th lord Mercury? Jupiter becomes also 9th lord in Navamsa with Mars in own sign in Navamsa lagna. >The extraordinarily passionate and compassionate nature of Christ. Even >the influence in the life of a prostitute should be visible. And of >course the `Dashas' would have to work properly. When Mars and Jupiter together influence the self, they lead him to put in hard work for the good of the society. Here Mars is in the lagna and Jupiter aspects both lagna and 3rd house. In case of Libra lagna 3rd drekkan the 3rd house will be to the fore and the aspect of Jupiter will prove very beneficial. The passionate nature of Christ can also be seen in that Mars aspects on the Moon, which is Conjoined Sun, so we have an authoritative person with easily angered Mood (He destroyed the market place in front of the temple). Mars in the sign of Venus and in mutual rasi dristi may make Him passionate also. The prostitute: Ketu joining Mars in this aspect? Dashas: Vimsottari - Moon (infancy) and the threat to His life till age 4. - Mars (early childhood) the threat is still somewhat there - Rahu: in the Rahu period he runs away from home (Rahu conjoins A4 and aspects A9) and begins His study (5th co-lord) and travels abroad to India (aspect on Mercury 12th lord) learning mystic potencies (Rahu-Saturn in Aries= going East direction) - Jupiter-period from AD25: He returns to His home country and starts to preach, and finally is crucified for His religious activities Jup-Mer. something similar in Narayan dasha. About the crucifixion chart attached. The Gospels confirm the fact that on the day of the crucifixion the Sun didn't give light and darkness was over the whole country from the 6th till the 9th hour. In those days the days were divided into 12 hours counting from sunrise to sunset, so this time must be about from 12-1 pm till 3-4 pm. According to Skyglobe and jhl4 giving an exact conjunction of Sun and Moon, there was a Sun eclipse on that day, so this confirms the accuracy of the date. It was a Saturday, we must know that in the Hebrew calender festival days start from sunset, so the Sabbath was actually the day after. Using this crucifixion-chart, we may also determine some things in regard to the birth chart. E.g. the fact that Virgo was rising when He left His body, shows a resurrection (12th house from birth lagna). Anyway, this is my 2 pennies contribution, maybe others might do better... Your sishya, Dhira Krsna dasa Attachment: (APPLICATION/octet-stream) Jesus0.jhd [not stored] Attachment: (APPLICATION/octet-stream) Jesus.jhd [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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