Guest guest Posted December 27, 2001 Report Share Posted December 27, 2001 Dear List members, One thing (among many!)which is beyond my comprehension is the remedial value of gems & stones. I wonder whether it is that easy to cleanse our past karmic debt. Is karma partial towards the rich that they can wash it clean with some expensive glitter. Mantras, bhakti, dharma, dhana etc as remedy is understandable. I have read a few books on this where analogy of umbrella, lights etc is given but it really doesn't clarify. So question - How do the Gems work? Regards - Prashanth ______________________ Download Logos, Picture Messages & Ringtones for your mobile phone Visit http://mobile..co.in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2001 Report Share Posted December 28, 2001 JAYA JAGANNATHA! Dear Prasanth, Namaste. > Dear List members, > > One thing (among many!)which is beyond my > comprehension is the remedial value of gems & stones. > I wonder whether it is that easy to cleanse our past > karmic debt. Is karma partial towards the rich that > they can wash it clean with some expensive glitter. > Mantras, bhakti, dharma, dhana etc as remedy is > understandable. > I have read a few books on this where analogy of > umbrella, lights etc is given but it really doesn't > clarify. > So question - How do the Gems work? > > Regards - Prashanth Well, there's a sevral factors building up the effects of gems on the native's karma. The first is the value, which is usually high in the case of a good quality primary stone fro a planet. By paying the price of the gem the native is giving away the fruits of his activities and this effort will have a purifying effect on him. Of course if the gem doesn't worth the price, this means that you support some cheater and this will not have a good influence on your karma. The second factor is that the gemstone itself is offered to the Deity of the planet and installed with proper mantras andf puja at an appropriate muhurtha when the planet's power is strong. the puja performed by the priest and the recitation of mantras will also have a prifying effect on your karma, provided you offer the proper dakshina (remuneration) in exchange of the efforts made by the priest. Still, it is true, that any effort made by you personally, and not by hired people, will have a much more strong effect on your karma, therefore the remedies personally executed by the native, such as chanting of mantras, puja, meditation, prayers, fasts and charity will have a much stronger effect. Just another end note: subha and asubha karma are not interchangeable, meaning that you can't counteract the effects of a bad deed with a good one. Yamaraja will separately give you the results of your good and bad karma. So our duty is not just to perform godd karma, but rather to offer all our activities and their results as a sacrifice to Lord Vishnu. Thus the reactions of our bad karma will be absolved. This is the one and only method, as explained by Sri Krishna in the Bhagavad-gita. Yours, Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga Jyotish Remedies: WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone:+36-309-140-839 _______ Get your free @ address at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2001 Report Share Posted December 28, 2001 Best Regards Srinagesh Gauranga Das <gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net> wrote: JAYA JAGANNATHA!Dear Prasanth,Namaste.> Dear List members,>> One thing (among many!)which is beyond my> comprehension is the remedial value of gems & stones.> I wonder whether it is that easy to cleanse our past> karmic debt. Is karma partial towards the rich that> they can wash it clean with some expensive glitter.> Mantras, bhakti, dharma, dhana etc as remedy is> understandable.> I have read a few books on this where analogy of> umbrella, lights etc is given but it really doesn't> clarify.> So question - How do the Gems work?>> Regards - PrashanthWell, there's a sevral factors building up the effects of gems on thenative's karma. The first is the value, which is usually high in the case ofa good quality primary stone fro a planet. By paying the price of the gemthe native is giving away the fruits of his activities and this effort willhave a purifying effect on him. Of course if the gem doesn't worth theprice, this means that you support some cheater and this will not have agood influence on your karma.The second factor is that the gemstone itself is offered to the Deity of theplanet and installed with proper mantras andf puja at an appropriatemuhurtha when the planet's power is strong. the puja performed by the priestand the recitation of mantras will also have a prifying effect on yourkarma, provided you offer the proper dakshina (remuneration) in exchange ofthe efforts made by the priest.Still, it is true, that any effort made by you personally, and not by hiredpeople, will have a much more strong effect on your karma, therefore theremedies personally executed by the native, such as chanting of mantras,puja, meditation, prayers, fasts and charity will have a much strongereffect.Just another end note: subha and asubha karma are not interchangeable,meaning that you can't counteract the effects of a bad deed with a good one.Yamaraja will separately give you the results of your good and bad karma. Soour duty is not just to perform godd karma, but rather to offer all ouractivities and their results as a sacrifice to Lord Vishnu. Thus thereactions of our bad karma will be absolved. This is the one and onlymethod, as explained by Sri Krishna in the Bhagavad-gita.Yours,Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net Jyotish Remedies:WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone:+36-309-140-839_______Do You ?Get your free @ address at Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Do You ? Send your FREE holiday greetings online at Greetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2001 Report Share Posted December 30, 2001 Dear Gaurangadas, Pranam. > Well, there's a sevral factors building up the > effects of gems on the > native's karma. The first is the value, which is > usually high in the case of > a good quality primary stone fro a planet. By paying > the price of the gem > the native is giving away the fruits of his > activities and this effort will > have a purifying effect on him. Of course if the gem > doesn't worth the > price, this means that you support some cheater and > this will not have a > good influence on your karma. Does this mean that the good effects come out of doing some acts of charity? The last two sentences are not very clear. After all who is the rightful owner of these stones. I would rather say the cheater should be a worried man than the buyer as regards karma ... so, are we saying that stones work thru the donation behind its purchase, then why wear them or why not involve oneself in some other form of donation / charity? > The second factor is that the gemstone itself is > offered to the Deity of the > planet and installed with proper mantras andf puja > at an appropriate > muhurtha when the planet's power is strong. the puja > performed by the priest > and the recitation of mantras will also have a > prifying effect on your > karma, provided you offer the proper dakshina > (remuneration) in exchange of > the efforts made by the priest. > > Still, it is true, that any effort made by you > personally, and not by hired > people, will have a much more strong effect on your > karma, therefore the > remedies personally executed by the native, such as > chanting of mantras, > puja, meditation, prayers, fasts and charity will > have a much stronger > effect. Fully appreciate, I am not discounting the powers of mantras etc ... so not able to see the importance of gems still. > Just another end note: subha and asubha karma are > not interchangeable, > meaning that you can't counteract the effects of a > bad deed with a good one. > Yamaraja will separately give you the results of > your good and bad karma. So > our duty is not just to perform godd karma, but > rather to offer all our > activities and their results as a sacrifice to Lord > Vishnu. Thus the > reactions of our bad karma will be absolved. This is > the one and only > method, as explained by Sri Krishna in the > Bhagavad-gita. Very well understood. Based on the comments Gems / Stones are looking like "over and above" mantras, pujas, propitiating the dieties etc. OR do they work on the lines of 'affirmations'? I need to clarify these doubts and hence am bringing it back for discussion pl, don't think otherwise. Regards - Prashanth ______________________ Download Logos, Picture Messages & Ringtones for your mobile phone Visit http://mobile..co.in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2001 Report Share Posted December 30, 2001 Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha! ---- Dear Prashanth, When performing remedial messures, we work on 3 planes. The Body, Mind and Soul. To protect the Body, we perform Tan(body)-tra(i)(protection). This can be done through gems. Man-Tra, is for protecting the mind. Yantra, is for the soul. By using gems we are protecting the body from performing acts, that would lead it into suffering. By using Mantra, we are provoking the mind, hence if the person doesnt think about performing acts that would lead to suffering, then the body won't either. Hence the predominance of Mantra over Tantra. Protecting the soul, is another matter, and shouldn't be done blindly. By protecting either of the 3, we are making sure the person avoids the ill indicated in the horoscope. But somethings we just can't avoid, even through remedial messures. In the end its upto god. Best wishes, Visti. --- Prashanth Achar <acharpastrology wrote: > Dear Gaurangadas, > Pranam. > > > > Well, there's a sevral factors building up the > > effects of gems on the > > native's karma. The first is the value, which is > > usually high in the case of > > a good quality primary stone fro a planet. By > paying > > the price of the gem > > the native is giving away the fruits of his > > activities and this effort will > > have a purifying effect on him. Of course if the > gem > > doesn't worth the > > price, this means that you support some cheater > and > > this will not have a > > good influence on your karma. > > Does this mean that the good effects come out of > doing > some acts of charity? The last two sentences are not > very clear. After all who is the rightful owner of > these stones. I would rather say the cheater should > be > a worried man than the buyer as regards karma ... > so, > are we saying that stones work thru the donation > behind its purchase, then why wear them or why not > involve oneself in some other form of donation / > charity? > > > The second factor is that the gemstone itself is > > offered to the Deity of the > > planet and installed with proper mantras andf puja > > at an appropriate > > muhurtha when the planet's power is strong. the > puja > > performed by the priest > > and the recitation of mantras will also have a > > prifying effect on your > > karma, provided you offer the proper dakshina > > (remuneration) in exchange of > > the efforts made by the priest. > > > > Still, it is true, that any effort made by you > > personally, and not by hired > > people, will have a much more strong effect on > your > > karma, therefore the > > remedies personally executed by the native, such > as > > chanting of mantras, > > puja, meditation, prayers, fasts and charity will > > have a much stronger > > effect. > > Fully appreciate, I am not discounting the powers of > mantras etc ... so not able to see the importance of > gems still. > > > Just another end note: subha and asubha karma are > > not interchangeable, > > meaning that you can't counteract the effects of a > > bad deed with a good one. > > Yamaraja will separately give you the results of > > your good and bad karma. So > > our duty is not just to perform godd karma, but > > rather to offer all our > > activities and their results as a sacrifice to > Lord > > Vishnu. Thus the > > reactions of our bad karma will be absolved. This > is > > the one and only > > method, as explained by Sri Krishna in the > > Bhagavad-gita. > > Very well understood. Based on the comments Gems / > Stones are looking like "over and above" mantras, > pujas, propitiating the dieties etc. OR do they work > on the lines of 'affirmations'? > I need to clarify these doubts and hence am bringing > it back for discussion pl, don't think otherwise. > > Regards - Prashanth > > > ______________________ > Download Logos, Picture Messages & Ringtones for > your mobile phone > Visit http://mobile..co.in > Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2001 Report Share Posted December 30, 2001 Dear Visti and the list, Right now I am listening to Maha Mrityunjaya Chanting and I will recommend it to you all too to go for this Times India CD of chanting. It has following:- Ganpati Beej Mantra Shiva Prarthana (invocation) Namaskar Mantra Introductory Commentary Chanting of Maha MritunjayaMantra (108 times) Om Namah Shivaya (dhun) (tune) One should listen to it (1) when one wants to get rid of a disease afflicting the body. (2) When danger to life is lurking large (3) when there is danger to life due to accident combination (4) when period of Maarkesh is operating. (5) when mental tranquility is disturbed (6) when expenditure exceeds the income. (7) when too many enemies lurk large. It will be helpful in this period of luking danger of war. Best Wishes and Happy New year Shiv Chadha - Visti Larsen vedic astrology Sunday, December 30, 2001 5:25 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Gems & Stones - Remedy Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha!----Dear Prashanth,When performing remedial messures, we work on 3planes.The Body, Mind and Soul.To protect the Body, we perform Tan(body)-tra(i)(protection). This can be done throughgems.Man-Tra, is for protecting the mind.Yantra, is for the soul.By using gems we are protecting the body fromperforming acts, that would lead it into suffering.By using Mantra, we are provoking the mind, hence ifthe person doesnt think about performing acts thatwould lead to suffering, then the body won't either.Hence the predominance of Mantra over Tantra.Protecting the soul, is another matter, and shouldn'tbe done blindly.By protecting either of the 3, we are making sure theperson avoids the ill indicated in the horoscope.But somethings we just can't avoid, even throughremedial messures. In the end its upto god.Best wishes, Visti.--- Prashanth Achar <acharpastrology (AT) (DOT) co.in>wrote:> Dear Gaurangadas, > Pranam.> > > > Well, there's a sevral factors building up the> > effects of gems on the> > native's karma. The first is the value, which is> > usually high in the case of> > a good quality primary stone fro a planet. By> paying> > the price of the gem> > the native is giving away the fruits of his> > activities and this effort will> > have a purifying effect on him. Of course if the> gem> > doesn't worth the> > price, this means that you support some cheater> and> > this will not have a> > good influence on your karma.> > Does this mean that the good effects come out of> doing> some acts of charity? The last two sentences are not> very clear. After all who is the rightful owner of> these stones. I would rather say the cheater should> be> a worried man than the buyer as regards karma ...> so,> are we saying that stones work thru the donation> behind its purchase, then why wear them or why not> involve oneself in some other form of donation /> charity?> > > The second factor is that the gemstone itself is> > offered to the Deity of the> > planet and installed with proper mantras andf puja> > at an appropriate> > muhurtha when the planet's power is strong. the> puja> > performed by the priest> > and the recitation of mantras will also have a> > prifying effect on your> > karma, provided you offer the proper dakshina> > (remuneration) in exchange of> > the efforts made by the priest.> > > > Still, it is true, that any effort made by you> > personally, and not by hired> > people, will have a much more strong effect on> your> > karma, therefore the> > remedies personally executed by the native, such> as> > chanting of mantras,> > puja, meditation, prayers, fasts and charity will> > have a much stronger> > effect.> > Fully appreciate, I am not discounting the powers of> mantras etc ... so not able to see the importance of> gems still.> > > Just another end note: subha and asubha karma are> > not interchangeable,> > meaning that you can't counteract the effects of a> > bad deed with a good one.> > Yamaraja will separately give you the results of> > your good and bad karma. So> > our duty is not just to perform godd karma, but> > rather to offer all our> > activities and their results as a sacrifice to> Lord> > Vishnu. Thus the> > reactions of our bad karma will be absolved. This> is> > the one and only> > method, as explained by Sri Krishna in the> > Bhagavad-gita.> > Very well understood. Based on the comments Gems /> Stones are looking like "over and above" mantras,> pujas, propitiating the dieties etc. OR do they work> on the lines of 'affirmations'?> I need to clarify these doubts and hence am bringing> it back for discussion pl, don't think otherwise.> > Regards - Prashanth> > >______________________> Download Logos, Picture Messages & Ringtones for> your mobile phone > Visit http://mobile..co.in> Send your FREE holiday greetings online!http://greetings.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... 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Guest guest Posted December 30, 2001 Report Share Posted December 30, 2001 To Prashanth, hi. I didn't see anyone mention anything along these lines yet, but, I remember reading one astrologer's comment on gems, and he had said that gems are like a drug for your soul...he didn't go into the why part though, so it left me wondering, but...so I was thinking about that, and then I remembered a ring that I wore for a good part of my teens, it was silver and onyx and I wore it on my mddle finger, which I found out later has to do with security...but anyways, at least from the resources that I looked into, onyx is a stone for saturn and silver is a metal for the moon...even though I don't know much about gems and stones, I sort of rationalized it to mean that my wearing that ring...even though I didn't buy it for this, that it was an expression of a phase I was going through...finding comfort in sadness. So, I think that's why he made that comment, because, I think the gem will work, by expressing the moment you want to experience, but...and I don't know anything about karma either, but, I think it means the moment you didn't want to experience is still going to have to express itself, but maybe I'm misunderstanding it. Bye, Angie vedic astrology, Prashanth Achar <acharpastrology> wrote: > Dear Gaurangadas, > Pranam. > > > > Well, there's a sevral factors building up the > > effects of gems on the > > native's karma. The first is the value, which is > > usually high in the case of > > a good quality primary stone fro a planet. By paying > > the price of the gem > > the native is giving away the fruits of his > > activities and this effort will > > have a purifying effect on him. Of course if the gem > > doesn't worth the > > price, this means that you support some cheater and > > this will not have a > > good influence on your karma. > > Does this mean that the good effects come out of doing > some acts of charity? The last two sentences are not > very clear. After all who is the rightful owner of > these stones. I would rather say the cheater should be > a worried man than the buyer as regards karma ... so, > are we saying that stones work thru the donation > behind its purchase, then why wear them or why not > involve oneself in some other form of donation / > charity? > > > The second factor is that the gemstone itself is > > offered to the Deity of the > > planet and installed with proper mantras andf puja > > at an appropriate > > muhurtha when the planet's power is strong. the puja > > performed by the priest > > and the recitation of mantras will also have a > > prifying effect on your > > karma, provided you offer the proper dakshina > > (remuneration) in exchange of > > the efforts made by the priest. > > > > Still, it is true, that any effort made by you > > personally, and not by hired > > people, will have a much more strong effect on your > > karma, therefore the > > remedies personally executed by the native, such as > > chanting of mantras, > > puja, meditation, prayers, fasts and charity will > > have a much stronger > > effect. > > Fully appreciate, I am not discounting the powers of > mantras etc ... so not able to see the importance of > gems still. > > > Just another end note: subha and asubha karma are > > not interchangeable, > > meaning that you can't counteract the effects of a > > bad deed with a good one. > > Yamaraja will separately give you the results of > > your good and bad karma. So > > our duty is not just to perform godd karma, but > > rather to offer all our > > activities and their results as a sacrifice to Lord > > Vishnu. Thus the > > reactions of our bad karma will be absolved. This is > > the one and only > > method, as explained by Sri Krishna in the > > Bhagavad-gita. > > Very well understood. Based on the comments Gems / > Stones are looking like "over and above" mantras, > pujas, propitiating the dieties etc. OR do they work > on the lines of 'affirmations'? > I need to clarify these doubts and hence am bringing > it back for discussion pl, don't think otherwise. > > Regards - Prashanth > > > ______________________ > Download Logos, Picture Messages & Ringtones for your mobile phone > Visit http://mobile..co.in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2001 Report Share Posted December 31, 2001 JAYA JAGANNATHA! Dear Jyotisha, Namaste. > To Prashanth, hi. I didn't see anyone mention anything along these lines yet, but, I remember reading one astrologer's comment on gems, and he had said that gems are like a drug for your soul...he didn't go into the why part though, so it left me wondering, but...so I was thinking about that, and then I remembered a ring that I wore for a good part of my teens, it was silver and onyx and I wore it on my mddle finger, which I found out later has to do with security...but anyways, at least from the resources that I looked into, onyx is a stone for saturn and silver is a metal for the moon...even though I don't know much about gems and stones, I sort of rationalized it to mean that my wearing that ring...even though I didn't buy it for this, that it was an expression of a phase I was going through...finding comfort in sadness. So, I think that's why he made that comment, because, I think the gem will work, by expressing the moment you want to experience, but...and I don't kno! > w anything about karma either, but, I think it means the moment you didn't want to experience is still going to have to express itself, but maybe I'm misunderstanding it. Bye, Angie Well, interesting observations. There are about 30 gemstones mentioned in the Garuda Purana and other Vedic scriptures. But the modern practice uses much more. So I was thinking that you can link any stones according to their qualities to the planets. Of course the primary stones would express the energy of the planets more strongly. Anyway, another thought about the mechanism behind gems. The Puranas say that gems are also forms of living entities. Therefore, like human beings can nfluence each other's life, gems can also influence our lives. That's why we install them in the proper way. It's like training someone to serve you. Another aspect relates to this however: gems have an immense power to accumulate the karma of their owners. Therefore, if a gem goes from one owner to another, either by selling, gifting or any other way, the part of the karma also goes with it. In this connection please refer to the stories of the world's 10 most famous diamonds. Therefore for astrological purposes you should obtain an unused stone, which is live, i.e. untreated, and purify and install it properly and charge with mantras. In this way it will have positive effects. Yours, Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga Jyotish Remedies: WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone:+36-309-140-839 _______ Get your free @ address at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2002 Report Share Posted January 1, 2002 Hare Rama Krsna Dear Shiv! Even I have the same cassette, however, I find a flaw there, The actual sloka is "uravarookameeva bandhanam" however, in the cassette it is "uravarookameeva bandhanat". Hence I generally find it better to chant it myself. Regards Sarajit - Shiv Chadha vedic astrology Sunday, December 30, 2001 6:26 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Gems & Stones - Remedy Dear Visti and the list, Right now I am listening to Maha Mrityunjaya Chanting and I will recommend it to you all too to go for this Times India CD of chanting. It has following:- Ganpati Beej Mantra Shiva Prarthana (invocation) Namaskar Mantra Introductory Commentary Chanting of Maha MritunjayaMantra (108 times) Om Namah Shivaya (dhun) (tune) One should listen to it (1) when one wants to get rid of a disease afflicting the body. (2) When danger to life is lurking large (3) when there is danger to life due to accident combination (4) when period of Maarkesh is operating. (5) when mental tranquility is disturbed (6) when expenditure exceeds the income. (7) when too many enemies lurk large. It will be helpful in this period of luking danger of war. Best Wishes and Happy New year Shiv Chadha - Visti Larsen vedic astrology Sunday, December 30, 2001 5:25 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Gems & Stones - Remedy Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha!----Dear Prashanth,When performing remedial messures, we work on 3planes.The Body, Mind and Soul.To protect the Body, we perform Tan(body)-tra(i)(protection). This can be done throughgems.Man-Tra, is for protecting the mind.Yantra, is for the soul.By using gems we are protecting the body fromperforming acts, that would lead it into suffering.By using Mantra, we are provoking the mind, hence ifthe person doesnt think about performing acts thatwould lead to suffering, then the body won't either.Hence the predominance of Mantra over Tantra.Protecting the soul, is another matter, and shouldn'tbe done blindly.By protecting either of the 3, we are making sure theperson avoids the ill indicated in the horoscope.But somethings we just can't avoid, even throughremedial messures. In the end its upto god.Best wishes, Visti.--- Prashanth Achar <acharpastrology (AT) (DOT) co.in>wrote:> Dear Gaurangadas, > Pranam.> > > > Well, there's a sevral factors building up the> > effects of gems on the> > native's karma. The first is the value, which is> > usually high in the case of> > a good quality primary stone fro a planet. By> paying> > the price of the gem> > the native is giving away the fruits of his> > activities and this effort will> > have a purifying effect on him. Of course if the> gem> > doesn't worth the> > price, this means that you support some cheater> and> > this will not have a> > good influence on your karma.> > Does this mean that the good effects come out of> doing> some acts of charity? The last two sentences are not> very clear. After all who is the rightful owner of> these stones. I would rather say the cheater should> be> a worried man than the buyer as regards karma ...> so,> are we saying that stones work thru the donation> behind its purchase, then why wear them or why not> involve oneself in some other form of donation /> charity?> > > The second factor is that the gemstone itself is> > offered to the Deity of the> > planet and installed with proper mantras andf puja> > at an appropriate> > muhurtha when the planet's power is strong. the> puja> > performed by the priest> > and the recitation of mantras will also have a> > prifying effect on your> > karma, provided you offer the proper dakshina> > (remuneration) in exchange of> > the efforts made by the priest.> > > > Still, it is true, that any effort made by you> > personally, and not by hired> > people, will have a much more strong effect on> your> > karma, therefore the> > remedies personally executed by the native, such> as> > chanting of mantras,> > puja, meditation, prayers, fasts and charity will> > have a much stronger> > effect.> > Fully appreciate, I am not discounting the powers of> mantras etc ... so not able to see the importance of> gems still.> > > Just another end note: subha and asubha karma are> > not interchangeable,> > meaning that you can't counteract the effects of a> > bad deed with a good one.> > Yamaraja will separately give you the results of> > your good and bad karma. So> > our duty is not just to perform godd karma, but> > rather to offer all our> > activities and their results as a sacrifice to> Lord> > Vishnu. Thus the> > reactions of our bad karma will be absolved. This> is> > the one and only> > method, as explained by Sri Krishna in the> > Bhagavad-gita.> > Very well understood. Based on the comments Gems /> Stones are looking like "over and above" mantras,> pujas, propitiating the dieties etc. OR do they work> on the lines of 'affirmations'?> I need to clarify these doubts and hence am bringing> it back for discussion pl, don't think otherwise.> > Regards - Prashanth> > >______________________> Download Logos, Picture Messages & Ringtones for> your mobile phone > Visit http://mobile..co.in> Send your FREE holiday greetings online!http://greetings.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... 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Guest guest Posted January 3, 2002 Report Share Posted January 3, 2002 Hi Gauranga, I wanted to visit your site so I could understand where you're coming from better, as I'm not familiar with those books, but is it under construction? One thing I was wondering though, in your opinion, do you think the gems are helpful in the long run? And also, what happens if you give (not you personally but just in general) someone the wrong prescription, is it your obligation to fix it? Thanks, Angie vedic astrology, "Gauranga Das" <gauranga@b...> wrote: > JAYA JAGANNATHA! > > Dear Jyotisha, > > Namaste. > > > > To Prashanth, hi. I didn't see anyone mention anything along these lines > yet, but, I remember reading one astrologer's comment on gems, and he had > said that gems are like a drug for your soul...he didn't go into the why > part though, so it left me wondering, but...so I was thinking about that, > and then I remembered a ring that I wore for a good part of my teens, it was > silver and onyx and I wore it on my mddle finger, which I found out later > has to do with security...but anyways, at least from the resources that I > looked into, onyx is a stone for saturn and silver is a metal for the > moon...even though I don't know much about gems and stones, I sort of > rationalized it to mean that my wearing that ring...even though I didn't buy > it for this, that it was an expression of a phase I was going > through...finding comfort in sadness. So, I think that's why he made that > comment, because, I think the gem will work, by expressing the moment you > want to experience, but...and I don't kno! > > w anything about karma either, but, I think it means the moment you > didn't want to experience is still going to have to express itself, but > maybe I'm misunderstanding it. Bye, Angie > > Well, interesting observations. There are about 30 gemstones mentioned in > the Garuda Purana and other Vedic scriptures. But the modern practice uses > much more. So I was thinking that you can link any stones according to their > qualities to the planets. Of course the primary stones would express the > energy of the planets more strongly. Anyway, another thought about the > mechanism behind gems. The Puranas say that gems are also forms of living > entities. Therefore, like human beings can nfluence each other's life, gems > can also influence our lives. That's why we install them in the proper way. > It's like training someone to serve you. Another aspect relates to this > however: gems have an immense power to accumulate the karma of their owners. > Therefore, if a gem goes from one owner to another, either by selling, > gifting or any other way, the part of the karma also goes with it. In this > connection please refer to the stories of the world's 10 most famous > diamonds. > > Therefore for astrological purposes you should obtain an unused stone, which > is live, i.e. untreated, and purify and install it properly and charge with > mantras. In this way it will have positive effects. > > Yours, > > Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer > gauranga@b... > Jyotish Remedies: > WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET > Phone:+36-309-140-839 > > > > _______ > > Get your free @ address at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2002 Report Share Posted January 3, 2002 JAYA JAGANNATHA! Dear Angie, Namaste. > Hi Gauranga, I wanted to visit your site so I could understand where you're coming from better, as I'm not familiar with those books, but is it under construction? One thing I was wondering though, in your opinion, do you think the gems are helpful in the long run? And also, what happens if you give (not you personally but just in general) someone the wrong prescription, is it your obligation to fix it? Thanks, Angie Well, there's some problem with my site, I myself couldn't yet find out why it's down. Please have some patience. As regarding gems, yes I think that they are helpful in the long run, but don't expect spiritual advancement from them. For this Bhakti is the only remedy. And the other question: If someone prescribes the incorrect gem, and thus causes harm to the client, then the karmic reaction will be his. He can avert this by changing the prescription and refunding the money offered by the client to him in exchange for the prescriprion, but if he does not do this, then the karmic reaction will hit the astrologer. The responsibility of the astrologer is grave. Everyone of ous should be aware of this. Yours, Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga Jyotish Remedies: WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone:+36-309-140-839 _______ Get your free @ address at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 Hi, thanks Gauranga, that cleared up a lot Angie vedic astrology, "Gauranga Das" <gauranga@b...> wrote: > JAYA JAGANNATHA! > > Dear Angie, > > Namaste. > > > > Hi Gauranga, I wanted to visit your site so I could understand where > you're coming from better, as I'm not familiar with those books, but is it > under construction? One thing I was wondering though, in your opinion, do > you think the gems are helpful in the long run? And also, what happens if > you give (not you personally but just in general) someone the wrong > prescription, is it your obligation to fix it? Thanks, Angie > > Well, there's some problem with my site, I myself couldn't yet find out why > it's down. Please have some patience. As regarding gems, yes I think that > they are helpful in the long run, but don't expect spiritual advancement > from them. For this Bhakti is the only remedy. And the other question: If > someone prescribes the incorrect gem, and thus causes harm to the client, > then the karmic reaction will be his. He can avert this by changing the > prescription and refunding the money offered by the client to him in > exchange for the prescriprion, but if he does not do this, then the karmic > reaction will hit the astrologer. The responsibility of the astrologer is > grave. Everyone of ous should be aware of this. > > Yours, > > Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer > gauranga@b... > Jyotish Remedies: > WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET > Phone:+36-309-140-839 > > > > > _______ > > Get your free @ address at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 .. The responsibility of the astrologer is > grave. Everyone of ous should be aware of this. Hello Gauranga What you say is so true. I realized that very early in my career as an astrologer. And I am always extra careful not to draw bad Karma to myself in the process. That is why we have to strive to keep our intergrity , sincerity and honesty at all times. Bindu (born in 53 and not 73!!!) I still regret that you took so much time with the wrong chart.... > Yours, > > Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer > gauranga > Jyotish Remedies: > WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET > Phone:+36-309-140-839 > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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