Jesus' chart (please check this)

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Hare Rama Krsna.

 

>The American astronomer, Mr. Michael R. Molnar is one of the last to come

>up with the "nailed" date of April 17th 6 BC. He claims that the

>described "setup" of the planets fit exactly into this date at the

>morning hours. The 'Stars' are no less than Jupiter and Saturn.

 

What is the described "setup" of the planets required for Jesus' chart?

 

I also was told by some psychics that Venus was shining as the bright

evening star, so that means Venus should be in front of Sun and Moon and

sufficiently distant. Another thing I heard is that astronomers were

afraid that on that day the Sun would not rise. Look at my chart and you

will see Sun-Moon practically conjoined at sunrise, giving the possibility

of a Sun-eclipse, but it did not happen.

 

Your sishya,

Dhira Krsna dasa

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Dear Dhira,

 

The link is still functional, but for your sake I am pastingthe

content hereunder.

 

Regards

Narayan

 

 

Were the "Three Wise Men" of the Nativity story practicing astrology

when they went to Bethlehem in search of Jesus? This intricate

biblical tale actually offers numerous clues, and the answer appears

to be yes.

 

Wisdom of the Magi

"Magician" is a derivative of "magi," the most learned members of the

ancient Persian sect of Zoroastrianism. Groups of magi would travel

to the farthest reaches of the known world seeking to understand

mystical truths; astrology was one of their central concerns.

 

The biblical story of Jesus' birth tells us a lot about the Magi's

astrological thinking: they came from the East, followed a star that

indicated the king of Judea was about to be born in the West, and

were told by King Herod that prophecy predicted this king would be

born in Bethlehem.

 

Astrologers did wander the ancient earth observing natural phenomena,

Persia (present-day Iran) was east of Judea (present-day Israel), and

King Herod did in fact rule Judea until his death in 4 B.C.

 

 

Charting Jesus' birth

What astrological phenomena were in place for Jesus' birth? The first

step is to determine a birth year; the year and date Christians

celebrate today were randomly assigned by the church hundreds of

years later.

 

Throughout history, zodiac signs have defined the personalities of

countries and kingdoms, just as they do for people. For example, the

Declaration of Independence was signed on July 4,1776, making the

United States a Cancer.

 

Here are the key astrological facts that the Magi would have known as

they sought to witness the birth of the historical Jesus:

 

 

 

Ancient Judea was thought to be an Aries (the Ram's Horn, for

instance, figures into many ancient Jewish traditions)

Jupiter was considered the planet of royalty

The zodiac sign of royalty was Leo

Leo's ruling planet is the Sun

 

 

 

The next question is: When during Herod's reign would Jupiter, the

planet of Kings, have been in Aries, the sign of Judea?

 

The answer is that the Sun was in Aries from late March through late

April of the year 5 B.C. Since the Magi were following the

Eastern "star" of Jupiter, they would have been looking for the birth

to occur when Jupiter was brightest in the Eastern horizon. This

would have occurred before sunrise and with no moonlight.

 

Christmas in April?

On April 16th, 5 B.C., at 4:58 a.m. in Bethlehem, Judea, Jupiter rose

over the eastern horizon, shining as brightly as it would in Aries

for many years. The Moon was so close to the Sun that it created no

ambient light to distract from Jupiter, which was the brightest

object in the heavens until the Sun rose, at least 40 minutes later.

 

Was this the moment of Jesus' birth? We'll never know for sure -- but

surely it's no accident that the Nativity story describes in great

detail how a star in the sky would signal Jesus' coming birth.

Astrology was one of the early Church's key rhetorical weapons in its

attempt to convert pagans throughout the Roman Empire. Pointing to

the Eastern Star as a signal of Christ's divinity, for instance, was

a crucial line of church reasoning in the first millennium A.D.

 

As for those Three Wise Men, their belief in astrology seems almost

beyond dispute. After all, they're known to have brought the infant

Jesus gold, frankincense and myrrh, all precious commodities in the

ancient world. And if these magi weren't entirely certain of what the

stars had to tell them, they wouldn't have left such riches, intended

for the most royal of births, in the poorest of mangers.