Guest guest Posted December 22, 2001 Report Share Posted December 22, 2001 Pranaam Sanjay, I am not knowledgable in Mandooka dasa and was hoping that you could clear a doubt. Do you use the Ketu exception when Ketu is in the 11th house in D-11? When Sun is with Ketu, does he weaken Ketu? Pakistan's D-11 has lagna in Sg, Mars & Rahu in Ar, Mercury in Ta, Jupiter in Cn, Moon, Venus & Saturn in Le, Sun & Ketu in Li. The question is: Will Pakistan's Rudrasa Mandooka dasa go as Li, Sg, Aq etc (standard) or Li, Le, Ge etc (Ketu exception)? Li is an odd sign, but it has Ketu. Taking Li, Sg etc, here are the calculations: Mandooka dasa (an ayur dasa showing wars and destruction): Maha Dasas: Li: 1947-08-14 (00:00:01) - 1954-08-13 (19:00:28) Sg: 1954-08-13 (19:00:28) - 1963-08-14 (02:21:44) Aq: 1963-08-14 (02:21:44) - 1971-08-14 (03:37:26) Ar: 1971-08-14 (03:37:26) - 1978-08-13 (22:32:52)<<<< Ge: 1978-08-13 (22:32:52) - 1987-08-14 (05:57:56) Le: 1987-08-14 (05:57:56) - 1995-08-14 (07:12:32) Sc: 1995-08-14 (07:12:32) - 2003-08-14 (08:22:31)<<<< Cp: 2003-08-14 (08:22:31) - 2010-08-14 (03:20:29) Pi: 2010-08-14 (03:20:29) - 2019-08-14 (10:45:21) Ta: 2019-08-14 (10:45:21) - 2027-08-14 (11:57:24) Cn: 2027-08-14 (11:57:24) - 2034-08-14 (06:57:18) Vi: 2034-08-14 (06:57:18) - 2043-08-14 (14:20:09) In Dec 1971, Le antardasa of Ar dasa was running. Pakistan lost a war with India then and East Pakistan won independence to become Bangladesh. It was a horrible time for Pakistan. No wonder because Le is Rudra Dwara (8th lord Moon is Rudra and he is in Le) and Ar is Rudra Bahya (Le is 9th from lagna and Ar is 9th from Le). In addition to being Rudra Bahya, Ar is badly afflicted by Mars and Rahu. Current pratyantardasas: Mandooka dasa (an ayur dasa showing wars and destruction): Sc MD: 1995-08-14 (07:12:32) - 2003-08-14 (08:22:31) Ta AD: 2001-08-13 (20:04:54) - 2002-04-11 (05:06:29) Pratyantardasas in this AD: Le: 2001-08-13 (20:04:54) - 2001-09-03 (13:51:35) Vi: 2001-09-03 (13:51:35) - 2001-09-24 (02:45:25) Li: 2001-09-24 (02:45:25) - 2001-10-14 (10:13:38) Sc: 2001-10-14 (10:13:38) - 2001-11-03 (12:05:57) Sg: 2001-11-03 (12:05:57) - 2001-11-23 (09:03:11) Cp: 2001-11-23 (09:03:11) - 2001-12-13 (02:30:03) Aq: 2001-12-13 (02:30:03) - 2002-01-01 (17:51:50) Pi: 2002-01-01 (17:51:50) - 2002-01-21 (08:58:43) Ar: 2002-01-21 (08:58:43) - 2002-02-10 (01:52:35)<<<< Ta: 2002-02-10 (01:52:35) - 2002-03-01 (22:02:58) Ge: 2002-03-01 (22:02:58) - 2002-03-21 (22:48:00) Cn: 2002-03-21 (22:48:00) - 2002-04-11 (05:06:29) Pratyantardasa of Rudra bahya Aries is going to run between Jan 21 and Feb 10. Pakistan can receive serious blows at this time. Curiously, this is the same time when India's annual Full Moon chart's Narayana dasa shows bold and aggressive action (I wrote about it a week back) and India's natal Rudramsa Mandooka dasa shows losses for enemy (you wrote about it). Are the calculations and conclusions correct? Whether I reverse the direction for Ketu or not, dasa and antardasa of Dec 1971 match, but we have a difference for 2002. Your sishya, Narasimha http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2001 Report Share Posted December 22, 2001 Narasimha, Does anyone know of the exact time of the creation of Pakistan? Pakistan came into being on August 14, 1947 but what about the time? India became independent at midnight Aug 14/15 at a time chosen by astrologers. Best, --aphoton Narasimha P.V.R. Rao wrote: >Pranaam Sanjay, > >I am not knowledgable in Mandooka dasa and was hoping that you could clear a >doubt. > >Do you use the Ketu exception when Ketu is in the 11th house in D-11? When >Sun is with Ketu, does he weaken Ketu? > >Pakistan's D-11 has lagna in Sg, Mars & Rahu in Ar, Mercury in Ta, Jupiter >in Cn, Moon, Venus & Saturn in Le, Sun & Ketu in Li. > >The question is: Will Pakistan's Rudrasa Mandooka dasa go as Li, Sg, Aq etc >(standard) or Li, Le, Ge etc (Ketu exception)? Li is an odd sign, but it has >Ketu. > >Taking Li, Sg etc, here are the calculations: > >Mandooka dasa (an ayur dasa showing wars and destruction): > > Maha Dasas: > > Li: 1947-08-14 (00:00:01) - 1954-08-13 (19:00:28) > Sg: 1954-08-13 (19:00:28) - 1963-08-14 (02:21:44) > Aq: 1963-08-14 (02:21:44) - 1971-08-14 (03:37:26) > Ar: 1971-08-14 (03:37:26) - 1978-08-13 (22:32:52)<<<< > Ge: 1978-08-13 (22:32:52) - 1987-08-14 (05:57:56) > Le: 1987-08-14 (05:57:56) - 1995-08-14 (07:12:32) > Sc: 1995-08-14 (07:12:32) - 2003-08-14 (08:22:31)<<<< > Cp: 2003-08-14 (08:22:31) - 2010-08-14 (03:20:29) > Pi: 2010-08-14 (03:20:29) - 2019-08-14 (10:45:21) > Ta: 2019-08-14 (10:45:21) - 2027-08-14 (11:57:24) > Cn: 2027-08-14 (11:57:24) - 2034-08-14 (06:57:18) > Vi: 2034-08-14 (06:57:18) - 2043-08-14 (14:20:09) > >In Dec 1971, Le antardasa of Ar dasa was running. Pakistan lost a war with >India then and East Pakistan won independence to become Bangladesh. It was a >horrible time for Pakistan. No wonder because Le is Rudra Dwara (8th lord >Moon is Rudra and he is in Le) and Ar is Rudra Bahya (Le is 9th from lagna >and Ar is 9th from Le). In addition to being Rudra Bahya, Ar is badly >afflicted by Mars and Rahu. > >Current pratyantardasas: > >Mandooka dasa (an ayur dasa showing wars and destruction): > > Sc MD: 1995-08-14 (07:12:32) - 2003-08-14 (08:22:31) > Ta AD: 2001-08-13 (20:04:54) - 2002-04-11 (05:06:29) > > Pratyantardasas in this AD: > > Le: 2001-08-13 (20:04:54) - 2001-09-03 (13:51:35) > Vi: 2001-09-03 (13:51:35) - 2001-09-24 (02:45:25) > Li: 2001-09-24 (02:45:25) - 2001-10-14 (10:13:38) > Sc: 2001-10-14 (10:13:38) - 2001-11-03 (12:05:57) > Sg: 2001-11-03 (12:05:57) - 2001-11-23 (09:03:11) > Cp: 2001-11-23 (09:03:11) - 2001-12-13 (02:30:03) > Aq: 2001-12-13 (02:30:03) - 2002-01-01 (17:51:50) > Pi: 2002-01-01 (17:51:50) - 2002-01-21 (08:58:43) > Ar: 2002-01-21 (08:58:43) - 2002-02-10 (01:52:35)<<<< > Ta: 2002-02-10 (01:52:35) - 2002-03-01 (22:02:58) > Ge: 2002-03-01 (22:02:58) - 2002-03-21 (22:48:00) > Cn: 2002-03-21 (22:48:00) - 2002-04-11 (05:06:29) > >Pratyantardasa of Rudra bahya Aries is going to run between Jan 21 and Feb >10. Pakistan can receive serious blows at this time. > >Curiously, this is the same time when India's annual Full Moon chart's >Narayana dasa shows bold and aggressive action (I wrote about it a week >back) and India's natal Rudramsa Mandooka dasa shows losses for enemy (you >wrote about it). > >Are the calculations and conclusions correct? > >Whether I reverse the direction for Ketu or not, dasa and antardasa of Dec >1971 match, but we have a difference for 2002. > >Your sishya, >Narasimha >http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > > > > > > > > > >....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2001 Report Share Posted December 23, 2001 Dear Aphoton, The time is: A minute after the Hour of Midnignt,14th August(Night between 13th& 14th August).Capital then:Karachi. I hope this helps. Regards, Fayyaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2001 Report Share Posted December 23, 2001 Fayyaz, Thank you for this information. Was the time chosen because of astrological reasons? If not, was midnight not an awkward time for the transfer of power? Best regards, --aphoton Fktareen wrote: >Dear Aphoton, >The time is: A minute after the Hour of Midnignt,14th August(Night between >13th& 14th August).Capital then:Karachi. I hope this helps. >Regards, >Fayyaz > > > > > > > > >....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2001 Report Share Posted December 23, 2001 Dear Aphoton, The time was not chosen astrologically.Independence came at the strike of the midnight hour on 14th August(00:00:00 hours).Announcement on Radio came immediately thereafter, and formal swearing in of the new Governor-General took place in the morning (0900 hours-Some minutes correction can be applied) of 14th August at Karachi.For astrological purposes,therefore, we take the time of 00:01:00 hours on 14th August. India,on the other hand,chose to formally launch its Independence on Zero hour of 15th August. Best regards, Fayyaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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