Moksha and desire of moksha (7th from AK)

December 18, 2001

Let me add 2 more cases in D-9

1. Ketu in 12th from AK and aspecting 7th from AK thru sign aspect

2. Rahu conjoined with AK(AK afflicted by Rahu) = Ketu in 7th from AK

Any comments,

VR

> Namaskar Narasimhaji

>

> I also have a related question.

> What is the desire of the soul if 7th from AK is unoccupied in

Navamsa? That is the case in my chart (attached herewith). In that

case should I see the 7th lord from AK & its association with other

planet?

>

> Warm regards

> Dilip.

> -

> pvr108

> vedic astrology

> Monday, December 17, 2001 3:28 PM

> [vedic astrology] Moksha and desire of moksha (Re: 7th

from AK)

>

> Namaste Angie,

>

> Excellent question.

>

> Once Sanjay said, "Narasimha, desire of moksha is also a desire

that

> can cause rebirth". Moksha is freedom from all desires. Moksha is

the

> state of a soul that wants nothing - absolutely nothing.

>

> Regarding Ketu always being in the 7th from AK if Rahu is AK, I

don't

> know what it means. Does it mean that people with Rahu as AK

usually

> have a strong desire of moksha? I don't know. I guess it depends

on

> other influences too. In general, we are taught that the 7th from

AK

> in navamsa shows the desires of the soul. In my case, Jupiter and

> Mars are in Sg, in the 7th from AK (in navamsa). My soul probably

> desires to be a leader (Mars) in spreading dharma (Sg) and

> traditional knowledge (Jupiter). Sanjay has saattwik Moon in

saattwik

> Pisces in the 7th from AK in navamsa. Probably it shows that the

> primary desire of Sanjay's soul is to spread saattwik traditional

> knowledge of Sages (Pi) and to worshipp Krishna (Moon in Pi).

>

> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> Narasimha

>

> > Hi, this a question about something I read in the other post...

> >

> > ~~~`The 12th from AK in navamsa shows the emancipation of soul.

> Similarly,

> > the 7th from AK in navamsa shows the desires of the soul (which

are

> the

> > cause of rebirth).`~~~

> >

> > I was trying to understand this, as my AK if you include rahu

would

> be rahu, but then the 7th house is always going to have ketu in

it,

> but then ketu is called the moksh karaka right? But then so, the

> desires of the soul would be moksha, but desiring that would be

the

> cause of rebirth? I totally don't understand this, do you know

what

> I mean? Angie

>

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December 18, 2001

Do we have place where we can figure out what the acronyms mean? AK is? [Excuse

me for my ignorance!!]

Thanks

Rg.

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venkateshwara_reddy

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Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:48 PM

[vedic astrology] Moksha and desire of moksha (Re: 7th from AK)

Let me add 2 more cases in D-91. Ketu in 12th from AK and aspecting 7th from AK

thru sign aspect2. Rahu conjoined with AK(AK afflicted by Rahu) = Ketu in 7th

from AKAny comments,VR> Namaskar Narasimhaji> > I also have a related question.

> What is the desire of the soul if 7th from AK is unoccupied in Navamsa? That

is the case in my chart (attached herewith). In that case should I see the 7th

lord from AK & its association with other planet?> > Warm regards> Dilip.>

- > pvr108 > vedic astrology >

Monday, December 17, 2001 3:28 PM> [vedic astrology] Moksha

and desire of moksha (Re: 7th from AK)> > > Namaste Angie,> > Excellent

question.> > Once Sanjay said, "Narasimha, desire of moksha is also a desire

that > can cause rebirth". Moksha is freedom from all desires. Moksha is the

> state of a soul that wants nothing - absolutely nothing.> > Regarding

Ketu always being in the 7th from AK if Rahu is AK, I don't > know what it

means. Does it mean that people with Rahu as AK usually > have a strong

desire of moksha? I don't know. I guess it depends on > other influences too.

In general, we are taught that the 7th from AK > in navamsa shows the desires

of the soul. In my case, Jupiter and > Mars are in Sg, in the 7th from AK (in

navamsa). My soul probably > desires to be a leader (Mars) in spreading dharma

(Sg) and > traditional knowledge (Jupiter). Sanjay has saattwik Moon in

saattwik > Pisces in the 7th from AK in navamsa. Probably it shows that the >

primary desire of Sanjay's soul is to spread saattwik traditional >

knowledge of Sages (Pi) and to worshipp Krishna (Moon in Pi).> > May

Jupiter's light shine on us,> Narasimha> > > Hi, this a question about

something I read in the other post...> > > > ~~~`The 12th from AK in

navamsa shows the emancipation of soul. > Similarly,> > the 7th from AK in

navamsa shows the desires of the soul (which are > the> > cause of

rebirth).`~~~> > > > I was trying to understand this, as my AK if you

include rahu would > be rahu, but then the 7th house is always going to have

ketu in it, > but then ketu is called the moksh karaka right? But then so,

the > desires of the soul would be moksha, but desiring that would be the >

cause of rebirth? I totally don't understand this, do you know what > I mean?

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December 18, 2001

Hare Rama Krishna

-----------------------------

Dear Ranga,

AK = AtmaKaraka.

Best wishes, Visti.

--- Ranga <pvangara wrote:

> Do we have place where we can figure out what the

> acronyms mean? AK is? [Excuse me for my ignorance!!]

> Thanks

> Rg.

> -

> venkateshwara_reddy

> vedic astrology

> Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:48 PM

> [vedic astrology] Moksha and desire of

> moksha (Re: 7th from AK)

>

> Let me add 2 more cases in D-9

>

> 1. Ketu in 12th from AK and aspecting 7th from AK

> thru sign aspect

> 2. Rahu conjoined with AK(AK afflicted by Rahu) =

> Ketu in 7th from AK

>

> Any comments,

> VR

>

> > Namaskar Narasimhaji

> >

> > I also have a related question.

> > What is the desire of the soul if 7th from AK is

> unoccupied in

> Navamsa? That is the case in my chart (attached

> herewith). In that

> case should I see the 7th lord from AK & its

> association with other

> planet?

> >

> > Warm regards

> > Dilip.

> > -

> > pvr108

> > vedic astrology

> > Monday, December 17, 2001 3:28 PM

> > [vedic astrology] Moksha and desire

> of moksha (Re: 7th

> from AK)

> >

> > Namaste Angie,

> >

> > Excellent question.

> >

> > Once Sanjay said, "Narasimha, desire of moksha

> is also a desire

> that

> > can cause rebirth". Moksha is freedom from all

> desires. Moksha is

> the

> > state of a soul that wants nothing -

> absolutely nothing.

> >

> > Regarding Ketu always being in the 7th from AK

> if Rahu is AK, I

> don't

> > know what it means. Does it mean that people

> with Rahu as AK

> usually

> > have a strong desire of moksha? I don't know.

> I guess it depends

> on

> > other influences too. In general, we are

> taught that the 7th from

> AK

> > in navamsa shows the desires of the soul. In

> my case, Jupiter and

> > Mars are in Sg, in the 7th from AK (in

> navamsa). My soul probably

> > desires to be a leader (Mars) in spreading

> dharma (Sg) and

> > traditional knowledge (Jupiter). Sanjay has

> saattwik Moon in

> saattwik

> > Pisces in the 7th from AK in navamsa. Probably

> it shows that the

> > primary desire of Sanjay's soul is to spread

> saattwik traditional

> > knowledge of Sages (Pi) and to worshipp

> Krishna (Moon in Pi).

> >

> > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> > Narasimha

> >

> > > Hi, this a question about something I read

> in the other post...

> > >

> > > ~~~`The 12th from AK in navamsa shows the

> emancipation of soul.

> > Similarly,

> > > the 7th from AK in navamsa shows the desires

> of the soul (which

> are

> > the

> > > cause of rebirth).`~~~

> > >

> > > I was trying to understand this, as my AK if

> you include rahu

> would

> > be rahu, but then the 7th house is always

> going to have ketu in

> it,

> > but then ketu is called the moksh karaka

> right? But then so, the

> > desires of the soul would be moksha, but

> desiring that would be

> the

> > cause of rebirth? I totally don't understand

> this, do you know

> what

> > I mean? Angie

> >

> > Sponsor

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> >

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December 18, 2001

Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha!

Dear Venkatesh,

Read Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra's Chapter about

Karakamsa.

Read Jaimini's Upadesa's Chapter about Swamsa.

12th from AtmaKaraka leads the person to god. If this

is stronger than the persons desire(7th from Rasi

Lagna), then the person is more inclined towards

moksha.

Ketu in 12th from Karakamsa(AK in Navamsa) is said to

give moksha acording to Parasara and Jaimini.

As for Rahu joining AK, think harder. In case of Sun

being AK, and Rahu joining, the Souls intent/desires

are blinded(Aditya-Chandala Yoga), just like the

eclipse.

As a result the person may try to attain their souls

desires through fanatical means, as the person is

blinded from god!!.

Theres a significant difference if this happens in

Rasi or Navamsa.

Notable personalities, are Nathuram Godse and some

also say Bin Laden.

But keep in mind that we can have fanatics performing

good deeds. It all depends on Rahu's affliction.

Best wishes, Visti.

--- venkateshwara_reddy

<venkateshwara_reddy wrote:

> Let me add 2 more cases in D-9

>

> 1. Ketu in 12th from AK and aspecting 7th from AK

> thru sign aspect

> 2. Rahu conjoined with AK(AK afflicted by Rahu) =

> Ketu in 7th from AK

>

> Any comments,

> VR

>

> > Namaskar Narasimhaji

> >

> > I also have a related question.

> > What is the desire of the soul if 7th from AK is

> unoccupied in

> Navamsa? That is the case in my chart (attached

> herewith). In that

> case should I see the 7th lord from AK & its

> association with other

> planet?

> >

> > Warm regards

> > Dilip.

> > -

> > pvr108

> > vedic astrology

> > Monday, December 17, 2001 3:28 PM

> > [vedic astrology] Moksha and desire of

> moksha (Re: 7th

> from AK)

> >

> > Namaste Angie,

> >

> > Excellent question.

> >

> > Once Sanjay said, "Narasimha, desire of moksha

> is also a desire

> that

> > can cause rebirth". Moksha is freedom from all

> desires. Moksha is

> the

> > state of a soul that wants nothing - absolutely

> nothing.

> >

> > Regarding Ketu always being in the 7th from AK

> if Rahu is AK, I

> don't

> > know what it means. Does it mean that people

> with Rahu as AK

> usually

> > have a strong desire of moksha? I don't know. I

> guess it depends

> on

> > other influences too. In general, we are taught

> that the 7th from

> AK

> > in navamsa shows the desires of the soul. In my

> case, Jupiter and

> > Mars are in Sg, in the 7th from AK (in navamsa).

> My soul probably

> > desires to be a leader (Mars) in spreading

> dharma (Sg) and

> > traditional knowledge (Jupiter). Sanjay has

> saattwik Moon in

> saattwik

> > Pisces in the 7th from AK in navamsa. Probably

> it shows that the

> > primary desire of Sanjay's soul is to spread

> saattwik traditional

> > knowledge of Sages (Pi) and to worshipp Krishna

> (Moon in Pi).

> >

> > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> > Narasimha

> >

> > > Hi, this a question about something I read in

> the other post...

> > >

> > > ~~~`The 12th from AK in navamsa shows the

> emancipation of soul.

> > Similarly,

> > > the 7th from AK in navamsa shows the desires

> of the soul (which

> are

> > the

> > > cause of rebirth).`~~~

> > >

> > > I was trying to understand this, as my AK if

> you include rahu

> would

> > be rahu, but then the 7th house is always going

> to have ketu in

> it,

> > but then ketu is called the moksh karaka right?

> But then so, the

> > desires of the soul would be moksha, but

> desiring that would be

> the

> > cause of rebirth? I totally don't understand

> this, do you know

> what

> > I mean? Angie

> >

> > Sponsor

> >

> > Archives:

> vedic astrology

> >

> > Group info:

>

vedic astrology/info.html

> >

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> vedic astrology-@e...

> >

> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> >

> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri

> Krishnaarpanamastu ||

> >

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> Terms of

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OM SRI GURAVE NAMAH

===================

Namaskar Narasimhaji

I also have a related question.

What is the desire of the soul if 7th from AK is unoccupied in Navamsa? That is

the case in my chart (attached herewith). In that case should I see the 7th

lord from AK & its association with other planet?

Warm regards

Dilip.

-

pvr108

vedic astrology

Monday, December 17, 2001 3:28 PM

[vedic astrology] Moksha and desire of moksha (Re: 7th from AK)

Namaste Angie,Excellent question.Once Sanjay said, "Narasimha, desire of moksha

is also a desire that can cause rebirth". Moksha is freedom from all desires.

Moksha is the state of a soul that wants nothing - absolutely nothing.Regarding

Ketu always being in the 7th from AK if Rahu is AK, I don't know what it means.

Does it mean that people with Rahu as AK usually have a strong desire of

moksha? I don't know. I guess it depends on other influences too. In general,

we are taught that the 7th from AK in navamsa shows the desires of the soul. In

my case, Jupiter and Mars are in Sg, in the 7th from AK (in navamsa). My soul

probably desires to be a leader (Mars) in spreading dharma (Sg) and traditional

knowledge (Jupiter). Sanjay has saattwik Moon in saattwik Pisces in the 7th from

AK in navamsa. Probably it shows that the primary desire of Sanjay's soul is to

spread saattwik traditional knowledge of Sages (Pi) and to worshipp Krishna

(Moon in Pi).May Jupiter's light shine on us,Narasimha> Hi, this a question

about something I read in the other post...> > ~~~`The 12th from AK in navamsa

shows the emancipation of soul. Similarly,> the 7th from AK in navamsa shows

the desires of the soul (which are the> cause of rebirth).`~~~> > I was trying

to understand this, as my AK if you include rahu would be rahu, but then the

7th house is always going to have ketu in it, but then ketu is called the moksh

karaka right? But then so, the desires of the soul would be moksha, but

desiring that would be the cause of rebirth? I totally don't understand this,

do you know what I mean? AngieArchives:

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December 18, 2001

AK stands for Atma Karaka, highest of 8 chara karakas.

Others 7 are:

Pitri Karaka

Matri Karaka

Bhratri Karaka

Putra Karaka

Dara Karaka

Amatya Karaka

Gnati Karaka

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Ranga

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Wednesday, December 19, 2001 12:09 AM

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