Moksha and desire of moksha (7th from AK)

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Namaste Angie,

 

Excellent question.

 

Once Sanjay said, "Narasimha, desire of moksha is also a desire that

can cause rebirth". Moksha is freedom from all desires. Moksha is the

state of a soul that wants nothing - absolutely nothing.

 

Regarding Ketu always being in the 7th from AK if Rahu is AK, I don't

know what it means. Does it mean that people with Rahu as AK usually

have a strong desire of moksha? I don't know. I guess it depends on

other influences too. In general, we are taught that the 7th from AK

in navamsa shows the desires of the soul. In my case, Jupiter and

Mars are in Sg, in the 7th from AK (in navamsa). My soul probably

desires to be a leader (Mars) in spreading dharma (Sg) and

traditional knowledge (Jupiter). Sanjay has saattwik Moon in saattwik

Pisces in the 7th from AK in navamsa. Probably it shows that the

primary desire of Sanjay's soul is to spread saattwik traditional

knowledge of Sages (Pi) and to worshipp Krishna (Moon in Pi).

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

 

> Hi, this a question about something I read in the other post...

>

> ~~~`The 12th from AK in navamsa shows the emancipation of soul.

Similarly,

> the 7th from AK in navamsa shows the desires of the soul (which are

the

> cause of rebirth).`~~~

>

> I was trying to understand this, as my AK if you include rahu would

be rahu, but then the 7th house is always going to have ketu in it,

but then ketu is called the moksh karaka right? But then so, the

desires of the soul would be moksha, but desiring that would be the

cause of rebirth? I totally don't understand this, do you know what

I mean? Angie

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Namaste,

 

I have a related query.

 

What happens when 7th from AK is unoccupied - do we look at 7L or the planets aspecting 7H?

 

In my case, AK, VE, is deb. in VI, with no planets is PI(chart attached).

 

Shailesh Chandra Chadhascchadha (AT) hotmail (DOT) com

 

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pvr108

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Tuesday, December 18, 2001 4:58 AM

[vedic astrology] Moksha and desire of moksha (Re: 7th from AK)

Namaste Angie,Excellent question.Once Sanjay said, "Narasimha, desire of moksha

is also a desire that can cause rebirth". Moksha is freedom from all desires.

Moksha is the state of a soul that wants nothing - absolutely nothing.Regarding

Ketu always being in the 7th from AK if Rahu is AK, I don't know what it means.

Does it mean that people with Rahu as AK usually have a strong desire of

moksha? I don't know. I guess it depends on other influences too. In general,

we are taught that the 7th from AK in navamsa shows the desires of the soul. In

my case, Jupiter and Mars are in Sg, in the 7th from AK (in navamsa). My soul

probably desires to be a leader (Mars) in spreading dharma (Sg) and traditional

knowledge (Jupiter). Sanjay has saattwik Moon in saattwik Pisces in the 7th from

AK in navamsa. Probably it shows that the primary desire of Sanjay's soul is to

spread saattwik traditional knowledge of Sages (Pi) and to worshipp Krishna

(Moon in Pi).May Jupiter's light shine on us,Narasimha> Hi, this a question

about something I read in the other post...> > ~~~`The 12th from AK in navamsa

shows the emancipation of soul. Similarly,> the 7th from AK in navamsa shows

the desires of the soul (which are the> cause of rebirth).`~~~> > I was trying

to understand this, as my AK if you include rahu would be rahu, but then the

7th house is always going to have ketu in it, but then ketu is called the moksh

karaka right? But then so, the desires of the soul would be moksha, but

desiring that would be the cause of rebirth? I totally don't understand this,

do you know what I mean? AngieArchives:

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--- pvr108 <pvr wrote:

> Namaste Angie,

>

> Excellent question.

>

> Once Sanjay said, "Narasimha, desire of moksha is

> also a desire that

> can cause rebirth". Moksha is freedom from all

> desires. Moksha is the

> state of a soul that wants nothing - absolutely

> nothing.

>

 

I know very little of astrology, so I cannot talk

about the significance of Ketu being in 7th for a Rahu

Atmakaraka. This is regarding the above statement,

which I am not convinced, is right.

 

Can you pls give me a reference in the scriptures

where 'mumukshus' (people who desire moxa) are said to

have rebirth. Au contraire, the scriptures laud such a

desire; See Bhagavad Gita, 8.13-8.16. The Lord says

that people reaching him will not have rebirth and

ofcourse, 'to reach Him' is an implicit desire. In

fact, in Bhagavata, the Lord praises such people,

whose sole desire is to reach Him and not even Moxa.

 

The Brahmasutras themselves start with an objective:

athaato brahmajignAsa. Then and therefore, let's

enquire into the nature of Brahman. Different schools

of Vedanta give a different interpretation of 'then

and therefore', but they agree on one point: unless

one desires moxa desperately, not much progress is

going to happen. The notable exception is

Shankaracharya, in whose opinion, there is no upAsana

needed for moxa. However, he imposes other

pre-requisites which would need 'some desire' to be

present in the 'jignAsu'.

 

Also, on the face of it, it is bit absurd that no

desire be entertained; for, that by itself is a

desire. It cannot be argued that a person entertains

no desires and remains what he is. All schools of

Vedanta agree that a man is ignorant of his actual

self (whatever that might be) and this ignorance is

deplorable and to be ridden of; which cannot happen,

unless one develops the desire to put in the effort.

 

In short, I think that statements exhorting a

spiritual aspirant to shun desires has been

interpreted out of scope; by even shunning the desire

to obtain moxa.

 

Apologies to the list for the digression.

 

Regards,

NDS

 

 

 

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