Rama's Chart and my wish to leave this group

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Hello PVN,

 

I am not planning for word play or convoluted theory.

No where, I claimed monopoly of tradition. I don't

become great by claiming my tradition is the

'greatest' also. I am very average and I will

consider myself as lucky if God's grace shall fall on

me. So, please don't confuse the list members. Just

because we are confused, it doesn't mean we should

transmit that to others also.

 

What's the big deal about lagna nakshatra! It doesn't

require a Phd in Astronomy. I can also give enough

formulae if I want to appear 'intelligent'. I have no

reason or need as Jyotish is only my hobby and it is

not a 'business'. One of the persons in our tradition

could compose 1000 slokas on Lord's Paduka in one

muhurtha. Do you think, this great soul can't

understand a trivial thing like lagna nakshatra?

 

Truth shall win always. People can't use number thoery

to twist and bend it the way they like.

 

One day the star is pushya (period because it is not

obeying Navami degree range) another day it 'may' be

punarvasu. Now, after Moon, Sun of Lord Rama is

getting some warping.

 

Lot of Telugu brahmins even do pooja with Jathaka of

Rama. I meditate on Thyaga Brahmam even though he

belongs to a different tradition.

 

I am leaving this list and request you to terminate my

membership.

 

 

warm regards,

Balaji S.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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***Jaya Jagannath***Dear Balaji,

 

I have been quietly following the discussions on the list after it was

brought to my notice. I am aware that this is a very emotive topic as the

horoscopes of both Bhagavan Sri Ram and Sri Krishna have considerable

difference from one Parampara to another. Dr. Raman was wise not to get into

these controversies as this can only result in a lot of fire works without

rational thinking. However, he did work on the chart of Bhagavan Sri Krishna

and the chart published in the Notable horoscopes also did receive considerable

fire. But then with time the emotions become calm and then most of us realised

that Dr. Raman was teaching us to try to think more rationally.

 

Achyuta dasa, among the pancha sakha of Sri Chaitanya also had this divine

vision. I am neither suggesting any monopoly nor the need to invoke traditional

references and names. When in comes to Lagna Nakshatra, do consider the work

Jataka Parijatha. This is among the finest works in Jyotish. Does it not sound

absurd that every person shall have evil during the first, third, fifth and

seventh dasa and in others they shall have good alone. Is this true? Ask

yourself. One as learned as yourself will easily see that this cannot be true

as many die in the second, fourth and sixth dasa as well. So, is the Navatara

chakra a farce in itself or is there some other clue to it?

Sri Ram: When the rational and calm mind thinks like this, then the answers

come from the blessings of the Dhi Shakti of the Gayatri. Coming to the chart

of Bhagavan Sri Rama, let me clarify that I have always used the Sun in Aries.

He was Surya Vanshi and also married the daughter (Sita Ma) of a King as

Upapada is also in Aries with the exalted Sun. In fact since the Arudha Lagna

and Upapada are in the same sign, similarities in birth indications should be

seen in the case of both Bhagavan Sri Ram and Sita.

Both were the eldest (eleventh house is Aquarius the eighth house and its

lord Rahu is debilitated).

Both had three younger co-born

The parents of both had problems related to progeny and after remedial

measures had children (either through the Payasam of the Maharishi or through

adoption). In fact, I have tried this Payasam many times and have advised

couples to keep fast on Sundays and worship Sri Surya Narayana with the Gayatri

mantra and have got excellent results.

 

Taking the Sun at Zero of Aries, for Navami Tithi (ruled by Sun), degrees of the

Moon shall be between 6-18 Degrees of Cancer. Thus, the maximum range for the

Sun is 0-12 degrees in Aries and the Moon should be between 6 to 30 Degrees of

Cancer. Punarvasu is from 0 to 3-20', Pusya from 3-20' to 16-40' and Aslesha

from 16-40' to 30 Deg. The most likely Chandra Nakshatra is Pusya 3-20 to 16-40

Cancer. Thus, the Maximum degree of the Sun in Aries is 10 Deg 40 Min. Bharata

was born in the same night (i.e before the Sunrise of the next day in Meena

lagna and also with the same Pusya nakshatra - note this causes Nakshatra dosha

for elder brother and the mother of Bharata shall act inimically against Sri

Rama due to this Nakshatra dosha of two brothers being born under the same

star). If Pusya has continued from about midday to the sunrise of the next day,

by implication the Nakshatra at sunrise on the date of birth of Bhagavan Sri

Rama must have been Punarvasu. This must have changed to Pusya around midday

just before the birth of Sri Ram. Thus, in every likelihood, the Moon maybe

around 6-7 degrees of Cancer and the Sun in the 1st degree of Aries in

Vargottama and Lagna in Cancer about 1-3 Degrees.

Sri Bharata: Bharata was born on the same day (technically) in Pisces Lagna

after about 16-17 hours of the birth of Bhagavan Ram. The moon needs to travel

by about 8 to 9 degrees during this period and would be around 14 - 16 degrees

of Cancer. Thus the Moon is still in Pusya nakshatra. Thus, Bharata was born in

Meena Lagna, Pusya Nakshatra with Sun in 1 or 2nd degree of Aries and Moon in

the last pada of Pusya.

Sri Lakshman: In all likelihood this was also Cancer Lagna with the Moon in

aslesha nakshatra The tithi would surely have become Dasami as this would be

about midday of the day following the appearance of Bhagavan Sri Ram.

 

The strongest among Lagna, Chandra and Utpanna etc. Nakshatra should be

considered as indicative of the fortunes of the individual. Taking Lagna

Nakshatra as 4th pada of Punarvasu, this is the strongest as Jupiter is much

stronger than Saturn (given the fact that both Lagna and Chandra Kendra are

equally strong). Normal Vimsottari dasa will not apply and Moola dasa or Tara

Dasa will give results. Treat Punarvasu as First for all purposes of the chart.

If you see the Moola dasa (http://sanjayrath.tripod.com) of Sri Ram, then you

will agree with the accurate readings of Saturn giving Vanvas of 14 years.

 

Finally Balaji, Vimsottari is like the Bhagavat Gita - seemingly simple at

the first glance but far too intricate than what is visible to the fore.

Best Wishes and I hope you study the Ramayana in more detail and come up with a

good work on the charts of Bhagavan Sri Ram and others for the welfare of all

astrologers.Sanjay Rath***Om Tat Sat***

- balaji srinivasan

vedic astrology

Sunday, December 16, 2001 1:52 PM

[vedic astrology] Rama's Chart and my wish to leave this group

Hello PVN,I am not planning for word play or convoluted theory.No where, I

claimed monopoly of tradition. I don'tbecome great by claiming my tradition is

the'greatest' also. I am very average and I willconsider myself as lucky if

God's grace shall fall onme. So, please don't confuse the list members.

Justbecause we are confused, it doesn't mean we shouldtransmit that to others

also.What's the big deal about lagna nakshatra! It doesn'trequire a Phd in

Astronomy. I can also give enoughformulae if I want to appear 'intelligent'. I

have noreason or need as Jyotish is only my hobby and it isnot a 'business'.

One of the persons in our traditioncould compose 1000 slokas on Lord's Paduka

in one muhurtha. Do you think, this great soul can'tunderstand a trivial thing

like lagna nakshatra? Truth shall win always. People can't use number thoeryto

twist and bend it the way they like.One day the star is pushya (period because

it is notobeying Navami degree range) another day it 'may' be punarvasu. Now,

after Moon, Sun of Lord Rama isgetting some warping.Lot of Telugu brahmins even

do pooja with Jathaka ofRama. I meditate on Thyaga Brahmam even though hebelongs

to a different tradition. I am leaving this list and request you to terminate

mymembership.warm regards,Balaji

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