dear srinagesh-Rama-paramananda(Happiness)

December 15, 2001

dear srinagesh

did you feel an inner happiness and unknown joy when you were posting

the previous mail. I felt it and i also felt an inner peace and

unknown joy. I feel that whenever i write about Rama my soul gets

purified slightly more.

regards

partha

vedic astrology, vankateshwara srinagesh <sri999>

wrote:

>

> Dear All

>

> Genrally In a Horoscope If a person has 10th as either sun or mars

will worship lord rama.

>

> ===================================================================

> Note In reply to Partha's e-mail>>>It is also widely accepted in

our mythology that Rama, lakshmana, Bharatha and shatrughna are all

the part of LORD VISHNU & BUT ALSO HUNUMAN

> In Treta yugu ,Avatar Parasurama will be eliminating all the

kshytrays since his father jamagadni will be killed by ksheytrays

will performing tapas & All Kshyetra's were be afraid..

> king Dasaratha was 29th from solar dynasty starting from sun

>>>munu.....

> One of the sage will advice lord parasurama that his mother is

kshyetray hence should not eliminate,heeding to this advice

parasurama assures that he would not kill a kshyetraya

> who is married just for 1 year,Parasuram comes to King Dasaratha

each year he would marry

> one first Kaushalya,sumitra,kaikei .Parasuram understands that he

cannot eliminate solar dynasty

> 3rs time he assures dasaratha that he would leave King dasaratha....

> King dasaratha son of Aja & grandson of raghu .....does not have

children at that time for long time

> Precepetator Vashista asks king Dasaharatha to perform

putrakamisti yagna >>>from yagana

> lord appears &gives bowl with payasam .....& clearly says that to

be given to his three wifes...

> King dasaratha with joy gives the pasayam to kaushalya >>>Sumitra

>>>Kaikei....

> 100% pasayam will be divided to three queens .....Sumitra thinks If

at all a son is born he would not become king any way & goes to the

top of the place & In the mean while hawk carries away

> pasayam of sumitra & drop near Queen Anjana >>>Hunumans mother &

she has it ...thus giving birth to hunuman......

> Queen Sumitra gets worried & narrates what had happened to

kaushalya & sumitra

> Kaushalya gives half part & Kaikei gives half part

> & thus Sunitra has two sons ..to kaushalya >>>Lord rama

>>>>greatness of her is early in the

> morning even sage Vishwamitra took her name first composing

>>>kaushalya supraja rama purava

> sandhya pravarthathe.......Oh Lord Thu art The Greatest

Incarination please wake up there is a task ahead.....When cradle

cermony will be going on Rama will be place in one cradle

> Lakshmana & Shatrugna will be placed in one cradle ...both will

not stop crying

> Vashista bening mahatma greatest sage whose name is taken after

Lord paramesha......<<<Shiva>>>

> Realises that because pashayam was divided which belong to

Kaushalya & kaiki ...

>

> places lakshmana in Sri Rama cradle & Bharatha & shatrugna in one

cradle & both of them stop crying..

> Hence in future also rama & Lakshmana were together & Bharata &

shatrugna were together...

> Hence Partha >>>you are partly right >>>by saying >>>It is also

widely accepted in our mythology that Rama, lakshmana, Bharatha and

shatrughna are all the part of LORD VISHNU

> I agree with partha >>>sage valmiki could not even pronounce when

narada narrated to speak

> rama >>>by telling mara...mara....mara.....He became a great

sage ..let us recite rama....directly

> Instead of argument ......If any one again wants to continue in the

debate

> Pls post your questions

> I shall try to answer it...& ANY QUIRIES IN RAMAYANA

> SRI RAMA JAYAM >>>SRI RAMA NAMA TATTULAM ..........

>

======================================================================

=============================

> Best Regards>>>Srinagesh

>

> partha sarathy <partvinu5> wrote: Dear friends In

continuation of my previous post. if we consider bharatha to be born

in pushyami moon star, and rama punarvasu lagna star, then in the

SAME vein lakshmana should have either aslesha moon star or aslesha

lagna star(Refer to sloka in previous post). If we accept that

lakshmana was having aslesha lagna star then he should be born within

2 hours of rama's birth. But here is another hitch, bharatha is elder

to lakshmana and considering the sloka that bharatha was born in

meena lagna, then lakshmana cannot have aslesha as his lagna star.

Thus for lakshmana aslesha is moon star and not lagna star. For

bharatha also pushya is moon star and not lagna star(Bharatha has

meena lagna remember).Thus Rama has to be born in punarvasu moon star

and not lagna star. Also the constellations were not of equal size

and for mathematical convenience later they were made equal(13

degrees 40 minutes). Thus the distance between sun and moon cannot be

calculated on the basis of equal constellation size theory which is

practised today,.It is also widely accepted in our mythology that

Rama, lakshmana, Bharatha and shatrughna are all the part of LORD

VISHNU. Thus They are all born with a purpose and have lived up to

it. If the sloka is mentioning the lagna and moon sign separately

then we must understand that. We cannot interpret it to our

convinience. Bharatha is talked in equal terms as Rama. He was the

ultimate bhaktha who never sat on the throne and yet maintained the

administration of Ayodhya. regardsV.partha Sarathy

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December 15, 2001

Endowed with all the 64 kalas...where in Ram had only 16 Kalas......

Best Regards

Srinagesh

partvinu5 <partvinu5 > wrote: dear srinageshdid you feel an inner

happiness and unknown joy when you were posting the previous mail. I felt it

and i also felt an inner peace and unknown joy. I feel that whenever i write

about Rama my soul gets purified slightly more.regardspartha--- In

vedic astrology, vankateshwara srinagesh <sri999> wrote:> > Dear All>

> Genrally In a Horoscope If a person has 10th as either sun or mars will

worship lord rama.> >

===================================================================> Note In

reply to Partha's e-mail>>>It is also widely accepted in our mythology that

Rama, lakshmana, Bharatha and shatrughna are all the part of LORD VISHNU & BUT

ALSO HUNUMAN> In Treta yugu ,Avatar Parasurama will be eliminating all the

kshytrays since his father jamagadni will be killed by ksheytrays will

performing tapas & All Kshyetra's were be afraid..> king Dasaratha was 29th

from solar dynasty starting from sun >>>munu.....> One of the sage will advice

lord parasurama that his mother is kshyetray hence should not eliminate,heeding

to this advice parasurama assures that he would not kill a kshyetraya> who is

married just for 1 year,Parasuram comes to King Dasaratha each year he would

marry> one first Kaushalya,sumitra,kaikei .Parasuram understands that he

cannot eliminate solar dynasty> 3rs time he assures dasaratha that he would

leave King dasaratha....> King dasaratha son of Aja & grandson of raghu

......does not have children at that time for long time> Precepetator Vashista

asks king Dasaharatha to perform putrakamisti yagna >>>from yagana > lord

appears &gives bowl with payasam .....& clearly says that to be given to his

three wifes...> King dasaratha with joy gives the pasayam to kaushalya

>>>Sumitra >>>Kaikei....> 100% pasayam will be divided to three queens

......Sumitra thinks If at all a son is born he would not become king any way &

goes to the top of the place & In the mean while hawk carries away > pasayam of

sumitra & drop near Queen Anjana >>>Hunumans mother & she has it ...thus giving

birth to hunuman......> Queen Sumitra gets worried & narrates what had happened

to kaushalya & sumitra > Kaushalya gives half part & Kaikei gives half part> &

thus Sunitra has two sons ..to kaushalya >>>Lord rama >>>>greatness of her is

early in the> morning even sage Vishwamitra took her name first composing

>>>kaushalya supraja rama purava > sandhya pravarthathe.......Oh Lord Thu art

The Greatest Incarination please wake up there is a task ahead.....When cradle

cermony will be going on Rama will be place in one cradle > Lakshmana &

Shatrugna will be placed in one cradle ...both will not stop crying> Vashista

bening mahatma greatest sage whose name is taken after Lord

paramesha......<<<Shiva>>>> Realises that because pashayam was divided which

belong to Kaushalya & kaiki ...> > places lakshmana in Sri Rama cradle &

Bharatha & shatrugna in one cradle & both of them stop crying..> Hence in

future also rama & Lakshmana were together & Bharata & shatrugna were

together...> Hence Partha >>>you are partly right >>>by saying >>>It is also

widely accepted in our mythology that Rama, lakshmana, Bharatha and shatrughna

are all the part of LORD VISHNU > I agree with partha >>>sage valmiki could

not even pronounce when narada narrated to speak > rama >>>by telling

mara...mara....mara.....He became a great sage ..let us recite

rama....directly> Instead of argument ......If any one again wants to continue

in the debate > Pls post your questions > I shall try to answer it...& ANY

QUIRIES IN RAMAYANA> SRI RAMA JAYAM >>>SRI RAMA NAMA TATTULAM ..........>

===================================================================================================>

Best Regards>>>Srinagesh> > > > > > partha sarathy <partvinu5> wrote:

Dear friends In continuation of my previous post. if we consider bharatha to be

born in pushyami moon star, and rama punarvasu lagna star, then in the SAME

vein lakshmana should have either aslesha moon star or aslesha lagna star(Refer

to sloka in previous post). If we accept that lakshmana was having aslesha lagna

star then he should be born within 2 hours of rama's birth. But here is another

hitch, bharatha is elder to lakshmana and considering the sloka that bharatha

was born in meena lagna, then lakshmana cannot have aslesha as his lagna star.

Thus for lakshmana aslesha is moon star and not lagna star. For bharatha also

pushya is moon star and not lagna star(Bharatha has meena lagna remember).Thus

Rama has to be born in punarvasu moon star and not lagna star. Also the

constellations were not of equal size and for mathematical convenience later

they were made equal(13 degrees 40 minutes). Thus the distance between sun and

moon cannot be calculated on the basis of equal constellation size theory which

is practised today,.It is also widely accepted in our mythology that Rama,

lakshmana, Bharatha and shatrughna are all the part of LORD VISHNU. Thus They

are all born with a purpose and have lived up to it. If the sloka is mentioning

the lagna and moon sign separately then we must understand that. We cannot

interpret it to our convinience. Bharatha is talked in equal terms as Rama. He

was the ultimate bhaktha who never sat on the throne and yet maintained the

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December 15, 2001

Dear Venkatesh,

Incarnations of Lord Vishnu and other living beings are measured on 1 to 16

scale, just as the Moon has 16 phases i.e. the Kalas.

Lord Krishna was a Poorna-avtar with 16 Kalas and aware that he is an avtar and

told Arjun at times that he is. See at the list of miracles he performed in his

incarnations.

Sri Rama was a 12-kala Avatar, not knowing that he is an avatar. It was a

deliberate arrangement as he was to set examples of 'Maryada Purushottam' . He

acted like a human being, weeping over unconscious Lakshman, showing

disperation in his search for Sita.

He had to be told of his avatar roop by Brahma when he was going to pierce earth

with his arrow after Sita had taken Bhoo-samadhi and again he was asked by

Brahama, at the termination of his life on earth, reminding him of his origin,

in what form He would return to his abode- in four-armed/handed Vishnu Roop to

Kheer sagar or in all pervading illumination form.

The 1 to 16 scale was read by me somewhere whose reference I cannot recollect.

It will be described when Krishna and Balram will go for their education to

their preceptor Sandipani. All living beings are on this scale as follows:-

Scale Life form

1 plant life

3 animals like cows, lions, birds and others

4 human with primitive needs of food,sex and shelter

5 human with better education and understanding

6 human with leadership capability, social acceptance and concern

7 human with capacity to re-write history, change the society like

Gandhi, Hitler

in positive or negative way

8 sages among human, with extra-ordinary capacities

12 Devas and astral sages like Narad

16 Lord Krishna, Poorna avatar

64 kalas are 64 arts and not related to this 1-16 scale.

Hoping this will help.

Shiv Chadha

www.vedicweb.com/Manorama.htm

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vankateshwara srinagesh

vedic astrology

Saturday, December 15, 2001 10:19 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: dear srinagesh-Rama-paramananda(Happiness)

Yes.......there is no such Incarination like Lord Rama >>>Even though his other

forms are Sri Krishna >>>poornavatharam Endowed with all the 64 kalas...where

in Ram had only 16 Kalas...... Best Regards Srinagesh partvinu5

<partvinu5 > wrote: dear srinageshdid you feel an inner happiness and

unknown joy when you were posting the previous mail. I felt it and i also felt

an inner peace and unknown joy. I feel that whenever i write about Rama my soul

gets purified slightly more.regardsparthavedic astrology,

vankateshwara srinagesh <sri999> wrote:> > Dear All> > Genrally In a

Horoscope If a person has 10th as either sun or mars will worship lord rama.> >