On George Harrison's Chart

[Guest guest]

Namaste friends,

 

> Here is the link to his birth data:

> <http://www.astrodatabank.com/NM/HarrisonGeorge.htm>

>

> BUT, .... I cannot easily see how this could be the chart

> of a WORLD FAMOUS Legend! I mean it is not so obvious...

> to me anyway.

 

The page you quoted gives the birthtime as 11:42 pm, but says that

Harrison's personal astrologer rectified it from 12:05 am to 11:52

pm. No source is mentioned for 11:42 pm.

 

In fact, 11:42 pm makes no sense to me. Navamsa shows abilities.

Navamsa lagna in Scorpio with AK (chara atma karaka) Rahu in 6th does

not make much sense. Take navamsa lagna in Sg instead. This puts

Moon, Venus and AK in trines from Swamsa (navamsa lagna) thus

explaining musical skills, creative abilities and luck. This also

gives dharmik and saattwik (yet fiery) nature. Jupiter and Saturn in

trines from Swamsa make him god-fearing.

 

Navamsa lagna in Sg lasts from about 11:56:30 pm to 12:9:20 am.

During this window, dasamsa lagna can be Sc or Sg. Which makes more

sense? Let us see.

 

Dasamsa Narayana dasa is started from Sg (which contains the 10th

lord of rasi chart). Ge dasa during 1961-1969 was a brilliant dasa

and made him famous. It makes better sense with Sg lagna. Moon in

lagna with Venusian argala makes him artistic. Mars in 10th with

argalas from Venus and Moon gave an enterprising artistic (and

writing too - Virgo) career. Ge is the 7th house and contains the 9th

lord (fortune and protection) - Sun - who has 6 rekhas in D-10

ashtakavarga. Moreover, it is the 5th house from AL and shows

following of material self. Being the 5th (trine) from A5, it brings

awards and other material trappings of following/fame too (trines

from A5 bring prosperity to A5). Being the 3rd (upachaya) from A9, it

increases (upachayas cause increase) the material trappings of

fortune too.

 

Combining D-9 and D-10, we have rectified the birthtime to 23:56:30

to 12:03:20.

 

I will skip other rectification and jump to D-60 (past life). Sg

lagna in D-60 is perhaps correct. Exalted Venus in 4th shows creative

studies in past life. Graha arudhas of Moon, 10th lord Mercury and

nodes in the 3rd house show a strong desire for a career in writing

and creative arts (in past life). Without that, it is unlikely he

would achive so much in this life. When a soul takes a new birth, the

unfulfilled desires of the past life - which are the reason for the

rebirth in the first place - are where it starts from.

 

Finally, let us see D-108. Sanjay said to me that D-108 is key to

analyzing the magnitude of success. Indira Gandhi is a successful

leader and so is the mayor of a small town. What is the difference

between the raja yogas of the two? Sanjay said that D-108 is the key.

Navamsa is the chart of skill, luck and protection. Being the 12th

division (evolution) of navamsa, D-108 shows the evolution of this

luck (navamsa). It gives a fine insight into the magnitude of skills

and luck. While D-60 shows one past life, D-108 shows the

accumulation of luck through many lives.

 

D-108 lagna in Aq with Sasa yoga from Saturn in lagna is probably

correct. Lagna lord of rasi chart is the most important planet for a

nativity. He should be well-placed and very strong or associated with

a very strong planet in D-108. Venus is the lagna lord of rasi chart.

He is very strong overall and occupies Paravatamsa (in own/exaltation

sign in 6 out of 16 divisions). In D-108, he is in a trine from lagna

with Mercury and Mars. Mercury is very strong in own sign. So Venus

and Mercury bring fortune of the highest kind.

 

The birthdata I am taking is given below:

 

George Harrison (Beatles)

 

February 24, 1943

Time: 23:53:10

Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)

Longitude: 3 W 00' 00"

Latitude: 53 N 25' 00"

 

I ran this thru my software to find all the yogas present in the rasi

chart. In addition to yogas like Ubhayachara, Guru-Mangala, Bheri

etc, there is a special raja yoga that was shown by my software. If

the same planet occupies or aspects lagna in all the six charts -

rasi, navamsa, hora, drekkana, dwadasamsa and trimsamsa, then it

gives a powerful raja yoga. Moon gives that yoga here. That is why

the yoga started in Cp Narayana dasa, which has Moon in the 10th

house of action from it!

 

Why was Cp Narayana dasa (1958-1966) so good for him?

 

Mercury is the protector (lord of 9th - fortune/protection) and he is

very strong with 8 rekhas (wow!!) in his ashtakavarga (in rasi

chart). This makes him very very lucky. Taking Cp as lagna, Mercury

is in lagna, raja yoga giver Moon is in 10th (action) and exalted

Venus (maha yogada) is in the 3rd house of creative acts, lagna lord

Saturn is in the 5th house of fame. So Cp Narayana dasa brought

success.

 

Moon is in Li and only Mercury is in a quadrant from him. OTOH,

quadrant from utpanna tara (5th star from Moon's star) has 3 planets

in quadrants from it. It is stronger. So you may try Utpanna

Vimsottari dasa instead of the normal Janma Vimsottari dasa. It

starts from Moola (Ketu).

 

Vimsottari Dasa (started from utpanna star - 5th):

 

Maha Dasas:

 

Ket: 1942-11-17 (01:46:07) - 1949-09-01 (14:07:40)

Ven: 1949-09-01 (14:07:40) - 1969-01-27 (08:57:55)

Sun: 1969-01-27 (08:57:55) - 1974-11-23 (23:22:51)

Moo: 1974-11-23 (23:22:51) - 1984-08-05 (21:10:54)

Mar: 1984-08-05 (21:10:54) - 1991-05-22 (14:55:50)

Rah: 1991-05-22 (14:55:50) - 2008-11-08 (02:26:59)

Jup: 2008-11-08 (02:26:59) - 2024-05-17 (12:47:33)

Sat: 2024-05-17 (12:47:33) - 2042-10-23 (21:47:25)

Mer: 2042-10-23 (21:47:25) - 2059-04-21 (17:18:49)

 

It was during the dasa of exalted Venus that he shot to fame. Venus

gives a strong Ubhayachara yoga and solar yogas give their results in

mahadasas (lunar yogas in antardasas). Being the lord of lagna, hora

lagna, ghati lagna and sree lagna, Venus is a very important planet

in this chart. He is exalted and occupies in Paravatamsa (6/16). He

is a maha yogada and promises money and fame both. He has 5 rekhas in

AV and his sign Pi has the highest number of rekhas in SAV - 36. No

wonder Venus dasa brought success.

 

Note that Niryana Shoola dasa of the sign containing Rudra and Shoola

dasa of a trine from arudha lagna are running right now, just like in

the examples given in my book.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

[Guest guest]

Namaste Narasimha and Dear List,

 

Narasimha you wrote:

 

>>>The page you quoted gives the birthtime as 11:42 pm, but says that

Harrison's personal astrologer rectified it from 12:05 am to 11:52

pm. No source is mentioned for 11:42 pm.

 

In the article it says: Tashi Grady met Harrison in 7/1993 and he said that

he and his astrologer had rectified the time to 11:52:19 PM

 

If this source is correct about this conversation with Tashi Grady and

Harrison, I would think the time accurate. Here I'm basing this on that I

know that Harrison's astrologer was Motila Gandhi, an amazing and talented

man and Jyotishi who was based in London. Harrison may have had other

astrologers in his life that I know nothing of but in the mid 70's when I

was fortunate to meet and spend some time with Motila Gandhi, I know he was

then George Harrison's personal astrologer. Motila Gandhi was a very gifted

Jyotishi.

 

I hope this is some help,

Patrice

[Guest guest]

Namaste Patrice,

 

Though the site mentioned that Harrison's astrologer rectified the

time from 12:05 to 11:52:19, the time it gave at the top of the page

is actually 11:42. What I said is that they did not give any basis

for _that_ time (11:42).

 

My own rectification is closer to that of Harrison's personal

astrologer. I put it at 11:53:10 pm - less than a minute off from

11:52:19. Some of my reasoning was mentioned in my previous post.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

 

> Namaste Narasimha and Dear List,

>

> Narasimha you wrote:

>

> >>>The page you quoted gives the birthtime as 11:42 pm, but says

that

> Harrison's personal astrologer rectified it from 12:05 am to 11:52

> pm. No source is mentioned for 11:42 pm.

>

> In the article it says: Tashi Grady met Harrison in 7/1993 and he

said that

> he and his astrologer had rectified the time to 11:52:19 PM

>

> If this source is correct about this conversation with Tashi Grady

and

> Harrison, I would think the time accurate. Here I'm basing this on

that I

> know that Harrison's astrologer was Motila Gandhi, an amazing and

talented

> man and Jyotishi who was based in London. Harrison may have had

other

> astrologers in his life that I know nothing of but in the mid 70's

when I

> was fortunate to meet and spend some time with Motila Gandhi, I

know he was

> then George Harrison's personal astrologer. Motila Gandhi was a

very gifted

> Jyotishi.

>

> I hope this is some help,

> Patrice

[Guest guest]

Namaste Narasimha,

 

Yes, I saw your great post and how you rectified his birth time. And the way

you got to it was brilliant and is very helpful for my learning. I just

added the note because I too saw that you were right there at the very

nearly identical time and thought it might help to give you even more

information as to how accurate you are.

 

As I lack the ability yet to do what you did, I must go by reasoning with

such a great post as yours and then the information I know of Harrison's

gifted astrologer. It's quite amazing that you are right at the same time

and further demonstrates the accuracy and blessing of Jyotish. Thank you,

Narasimha.

 

Best regards,

Patrice

_______________

 

>>>Namaste Patrice,

 

Though the site mentioned that Harrison's astrologer rectified the

time from 12:05 to 11:52:19, the time it gave at the top of the page

is actually 11:42. What I said is that they did not give any basis

for _that_ time (11:42).

 

My own rectification is closer to that of Harrison's personal

astrologer. I put it at 11:53:10 pm - less than a minute off from

11:52:19. Some of my reasoning was mentioned in my previous post.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

[Guest guest]

Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha!

-------------------------

Dear Narasimha,

Noting that you didn't give the Rasi much consideration other than the notice of

Yogada and Astakavarga, i would like to bring up these points regarding the Rasi

Chart:

 

Mercury(2nd house+4th house):

For Libra Lagna, Mercury gives Rasi Dristi on Scorpio; the 2nd house who is

afflicted by Saturn and Rahu by Rasi Dristi. How could he keep his

school-boy-skinny appearance with such an influence to his 2nd house, which

gives obeisaty?

 

His results in school at far from mediocre, with mercurt being placed in 4th

house as well, giving a student that always runs away from class.

 

Venus(6th and 8th):

Venus is in 8th from Arudha Lagna, allthough this is considered more auspicious

than having Malefics in 8th from AL, would make me doubt that his Raja Yoga was

saught from artistic expansions of himself, but rather given to him, through

inheritance. Offcourse Venus also aspects the 11th from AL, but this becomes

secondary.

 

Lagna Lord exalted in 6th from Lagna, and aspected by 3rd lord Jupiter, would

give him tremendous abilities as a researcher, and he was hardly known for his

work in biology(venus+jupiter) nor ayurveda.

 

Sun and Ketu in 5th:

Doesn't Sun and Ketu in 5th house pave the way for a person with mathematical

ability and knowledge of all sorts of things? Notably Sun is badhakesh but yet,

such strong knowledge should surface, even thou it creates obstacles for him.

 

AL in Badhaka Sthana:

Arudha Lagna in Badhaka Sthana, joining Rahu, could surely explain cancerous

growth in the back. But Atmakaraka and Arudha Lagna in Badhaka Sthana?? I

thought his road to fame & fortune came quick and easily.

 

Regarding Navamsa Lagna:

Why didn't you consider Sun's placement in reference to Navamsa Lagna, he

entered the band due to his ability to play the guitar, which his mother made

him do. No doubt he was a good singer, but i feel sun should be involved.

 

I hope you find some time to comment on these points, as i'd like to go further

with the rectification from there.

 

Best wishes, Visti.

-

pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net

vedic astrology

Friday, November 30, 2001 9:53 PM

[vedic astrology] On George Harrison's Chart

Namaste friends,> Here is the link to his birth data:>

<http://www.astrodatabank.com/NM/HarrisonGeorge.htm>> > BUT, .... I cannot

easily see how this could be the chart> of a WORLD FAMOUS Legend! I mean it is

not so obvious...> to me anyway.The page you quoted gives the birthtime as

11:42 pm, but says that Harrison's personal astrologer rectified it from 12:05

am to 11:52 pm. No source is mentioned for 11:42 pm.In fact, 11:42 pm makes no

sense to me. Navamsa shows abilities. Navamsa lagna in Scorpio with AK (chara

atma karaka) Rahu in 6th does not make much sense. Take navamsa lagna in Sg

instead. This puts Moon, Venus and AK in trines from Swamsa (navamsa lagna)

thus explaining musical skills, creative abilities and luck. This also gives

dharmik and saattwik (yet fiery) nature. Jupiter and Saturn in trines from

Swamsa make him god-fearing.Navamsa lagna in Sg lasts from about 11:56:30 pm to

12:9:20 am. During this window, dasamsa lagna can be Sc or Sg. Which makes more

sense? Let us see.Dasamsa Narayana dasa is started from Sg (which contains the

10th lord of rasi chart). Ge dasa during 1961-1969 was a brilliant dasa and

made him famous. It makes better sense with Sg lagna. Moon in lagna with

Venusian argala makes him artistic. Mars in 10th with argalas from Venus and

Moon gave an enterprising artistic (and writing too - Virgo) career. Ge is the

7th house and contains the 9th lord (fortune and protection) - Sun - who has 6

rekhas in D-10 ashtakavarga. Moreover, it is the 5th house from AL and shows

following of material self. Being the 5th (trine) from A5, it brings awards and

other material trappings of following/fame too (trines from A5 bring prosperity

to A5). Being the 3rd (upachaya) from A9, it increases (upachayas cause

increase) the material trappings of fortune too.Combining D-9 and D-10, we have

rectified the birthtime to 23:56:30 to 12:03:20.I will skip other rectification

and jump to D-60 (past life). Sg lagna in D-60 is perhaps correct. Exalted

Venus in 4th shows creative studies in past life. Graha arudhas of Moon, 10th

lord Mercury and nodes in the 3rd house show a strong desire for a career in

writing and creative arts (in past life). Without that, it is unlikely he would

achive so much in this life. When a soul takes a new birth, the unfulfilled

desires of the past life - which are the reason for the rebirth in the first

place - are where it starts from.Finally, let us see D-108. Sanjay said to me

that D-108 is key to analyzing the magnitude of success. Indira Gandhi is a

successful leader and so is the mayor of a small town. What is the difference

between the raja yogas of the two? Sanjay said that D-108 is the key. Navamsa

is the chart of skill, luck and protection. Being the 12th division (evolution)

of navamsa, D-108 shows the evolution of this luck (navamsa). It gives a fine

insight into the magnitude of skills and luck. While D-60 shows one past life,

D-108 shows the accumulation of luck through many lives.D-108 lagna in Aq with

Sasa yoga from Saturn in lagna is probably correct. Lagna lord of rasi chart is

the most important planet for a nativity. He should be well-placed and very

strong or associated with a very strong planet in D-108. Venus is the lagna

lord of rasi chart. He is very strong overall and occupies Paravatamsa (in

own/exaltation sign in 6 out of 16 divisions). In D-108, he is in a trine from

lagna with Mercury and Mars. Mercury is very strong in own sign. So Venus and

Mercury bring fortune of the highest kind.The birthdata I am taking is given

below:George Harrison (Beatles) February 24, 1943Time:

23:53:10Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)Longitude: 3 W 00' 00"Latitude:

53 N 25' 00"I ran this thru my software to find all the yogas present in the

rasi chart. In addition to yogas like Ubhayachara, Guru-Mangala, Bheri etc,

there is a special raja yoga that was shown by my software. If the same planet

occupies or aspects lagna in all the six charts - rasi, navamsa, hora,

drekkana, dwadasamsa and trimsamsa, then it gives a powerful raja yoga. Moon

gives that yoga here. That is why the yoga started in Cp Narayana dasa, which

has Moon in the 10th house of action from it!Why was Cp Narayana dasa

(1958-1966) so good for him?Mercury is the protector (lord of 9th -

fortune/protection) and he is very strong with 8 rekhas (wow!!) in his

ashtakavarga (in rasi chart). This makes him very very lucky. Taking Cp as

lagna, Mercury is in lagna, raja yoga giver Moon is in 10th (action) and

exalted Venus (maha yogada) is in the 3rd house of creative acts, lagna lord

Saturn is in the 5th house of fame. So Cp Narayana dasa brought success.Moon is

in Li and only Mercury is in a quadrant from him. OTOH, quadrant from utpanna

tara (5th star from Moon's star) has 3 planets in quadrants from it. It is

stronger. So you may try Utpanna Vimsottari dasa instead of the normal Janma

Vimsottari dasa. It starts from Moola (Ketu).Vimsottari Dasa (started from

utpanna star - 5th):Maha Dasas:Ket: 1942-11-17 (01:46:07) - 1949-09-01

(14:07:40)Ven: 1949-09-01 (14:07:40) - 1969-01-27 (08:57:55)Sun: 1969-01-27

(08:57:55) - 1974-11-23 (23:22:51)Moo: 1974-11-23 (23:22:51) - 1984-08-05

(21:10:54)Mar: 1984-08-05 (21:10:54) - 1991-05-22 (14:55:50)Rah: 1991-05-22

(14:55:50) - 2008-11-08 (02:26:59)Jup: 2008-11-08 (02:26:59) - 2024-05-17

(12:47:33)Sat: 2024-05-17 (12:47:33) - 2042-10-23 (21:47:25)Mer: 2042-10-23

(21:47:25) - 2059-04-21 (17:18:49)It was during the dasa of exalted Venus that

he shot to fame. Venus gives a strong Ubhayachara yoga and solar yogas give

their results in mahadasas (lunar yogas in antardasas). Being the lord of

lagna, hora lagna, ghati lagna and sree lagna, Venus is a very important planet

in this chart. He is exalted and occupies in Paravatamsa (6/16). He is a maha

yogada and promises money and fame both. He has 5 rekhas in AV and his sign Pi

has the highest number of rekhas in SAV - 36. No wonder Venus dasa brought

success.Note that Niryana Shoola dasa of the sign containing Rudra and Shoola

dasa of a trine from arudha lagna are running right now, just like in the

examples given in my book.May Jupiter's light shine on us,NarasimhaArchives:

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[Guest guest]

Dear Visti,

 

You have been doing a tremendous job on the lists. You have improved

greatly since I first knew you. Keep it up!

 

Here are my replies to your points...

 

> Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha!

> -------------------------

> Dear Narasimha,

> Noting that you didn't give the Rasi much consideration other than

the

> notice of Yogada and Astakavarga, i would like to bring up these

points

> regarding the Rasi Chart:

 

I did not make comments on rasi chart because Virgo lagna requires

the original birthtime of 12:05 am to change by 55 min.

 

Nevertheless, here are some comments.

 

> Mercury(2nd house+4th house):

> For Libra Lagna, Mercury gives Rasi Dristi on Scorpio; the 2nd

house who is

> afflicted by Saturn and Rahu by Rasi Dristi. How could he keep his

> school-boy-skinny appearance with such an influence to his 2nd

house, which

> gives obeisaty?

 

The 2nd house may have its role in deciding obesity, but don't you

think that lagna is important too? Moon is a vaata graha and he is

very closely in Libra lagna. That strong influence gives strong vaata

nature and skinny appearance is not unexplained at all.

 

Though Libra is a mixed dosha sign, it is an airy sign and most

students with Libra lagna usually are skinny. Here we have Moon in

Libra to boot.

 

> His results in school at far from mediocre, with mercurt being

placed in 4th

> house as well, giving a student that always runs away from class.

 

There are mixed influences here (functional benefic Mercury in 4th

but 4th lord in 8th) and a lot depends on D-24.

 

> Venus(6th and 8th):

> Venus is in 8th from Arudha Lagna, allthough this is considered more

> auspicious than having Malefics in 8th from AL, would make me doubt

that his

> Raja Yoga was saught from artistic expansions of himself, but

rather given

> to him, through inheritance. Offcourse Venus also aspects the 11th

from AL,

> but this becomes secondary.

 

Why secondary? Any planet occupying or aspecting the 11th from AL

gives material gains.

 

Venus is the lord of lagna, HL, GL and SL. He is such a key planet.

He is in paravatamsa and in the strongest house in SAV. He is also

Moon's dispositor. He is the "Kevala Maha Yogada" in this chart and

greatest yoga giver. (Mahayogada is a planet associated with lagna,

HL and GL (all) by occupancy or aspect or ownership. If one of the

mahayogadas owns the sign occupied by Moon, he becomes "kevala

mahayogada" and the strongest candidate to give success).

 

True, he is in the 8th from AL (but aspecting 2nd, 5th and 11th from

AL). This shows sudden rise (8th) in status (AL) and bringing of

money (2nd), fame (5th) and gains (11th). If a great yoga giver is in

the 8th from AL, he gives sudden rise. If a planet with a strong

duryoga (bad combination) is in the 8th from AL, it gives sudden fall.

 

> Lagna Lord exalted in 6th from Lagna, and aspected by 3rd lord

Jupiter,

> would give him tremendous abilities as a researcher, and he was

hardly known

> for his work in biology(venus+jupiter) nor ayurveda.

 

I don't see the point. The 8th house is important for research.

 

> Sun and Ketu in 5th:

> Doesn't Sun and Ketu in 5th house pave the way for a person with

> mathematical ability and knowledge of all sorts of things? Notably

Sun is

> badhakesh but yet, such strong knowledge should surface, even thou

it

> creates obstacles for him.

 

If we were talking about the navamsa chart, your point holds. But we

are talking about the rasi chart.

 

> AL in Badhaka Sthana:

> Arudha Lagna in Badhaka Sthana, joining Rahu, could surely explain

cancerous

> growth in the back. But Atmakaraka and Arudha Lagna in Badhaka

Sthana?? I

> thought his road to fame & fortune came quick and easily.

 

Yes, his road to fame and fortune was quick (thanks to

exalted "kevala mahayogada" Venus in the 8th from AL). But he was

troubled by all that fame and following. That is what AL being in a

badhaka sthana from lagna shows!!

 

They say he got fed up quite fast with the stardom. He liked being a

musician, but not being a star. He was a very spiritual and

philosophical person and did not like the spotlight and the

meaningless frenzy of followers. In a way, his status (AL) troubled

(badhaka) him (lagna).

 

> Regarding Navamsa Lagna:

> Why didn't you consider Sun's placement in reference to Navamsa

Lagna, he

> entered the band due to his ability to play the guitar, which his

mother

> made him do. No doubt he was a good singer, but i feel sun should be

> involved.

 

That's possible I guess. Sun shows rhythm and Moon shows melody. Both

are important for music. Considering his spiritual, righteous,

philosophical and god-fearing nature, I felt navamsa lagna was Sg

with Jupiter and Saturn in trines. Moon and Venus in trines explain

musical ability and creativity too. Mercury's aspect on navamsa lagna

gives some writing skills too.

 

He was indeed a man of many skills.

 

> I hope you find some time to comment on these points, as i'd like

to go

> further with the rectification from there.

>

> Best wishes, Visti.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

[Guest guest]

Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha!

--------

Dear Nari,

Yes now i'm convinced.. except the one point about

Lagna Lord: Venus in 6th recieving Rasi Dristi from

3rd lord Jupiter: Dhimantah Yoga?

Best wishes, Visti.

 

--- pvr wrote:

> Dear Visti,

>

> You have been doing a tremendous job on the lists.

> You have improved

> greatly since I first knew you. Keep it up!

>

> Here are my replies to your points...

>

> > Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha!

> >

>

-------------------------

> > Dear Narasimha,

> > Noting that you didn't give the Rasi much

> consideration other than

> the

> > notice of Yogada and Astakavarga, i would like to

> bring up these

> points

> > regarding the Rasi Chart:

>

> I did not make comments on rasi chart because Virgo

> lagna requires

> the original birthtime of 12:05 am to change by 55

> min.

>

> Nevertheless, here are some comments.

>

> > Mercury(2nd house+4th house):

> > For Libra Lagna, Mercury gives Rasi Dristi on

> Scorpio; the 2nd

> house who is

> > afflicted by Saturn and Rahu by Rasi Dristi. How

> could he keep his

> > school-boy-skinny appearance with such an

> influence to his 2nd

> house, which

> > gives obeisaty?

>

> The 2nd house may have its role in deciding obesity,

> but don't you

> think that lagna is important too? Moon is a vaata

> graha and he is

> very closely in Libra lagna. That strong influence

> gives strong vaata

> nature and skinny appearance is not unexplained at

> all.

>

> Though Libra is a mixed dosha sign, it is an airy

> sign and most

> students with Libra lagna usually are skinny. Here

> we have Moon in

> Libra to boot.

>

> > His results in school at far from mediocre, with

> mercurt being

> placed in 4th

> > house as well, giving a student that always runs

> away from class.

>

> There are mixed influences here (functional benefic

> Mercury in 4th

> but 4th lord in 8th) and a lot depends on D-24.

>

> > Venus(6th and 8th):

> > Venus is in 8th from Arudha Lagna, allthough this

> is considered more

> > auspicious than having Malefics in 8th from AL,

> would make me doubt

> that his

> > Raja Yoga was saught from artistic expansions of

> himself, but

> rather given

> > to him, through inheritance. Offcourse Venus also

> aspects the 11th

> from AL,

> > but this becomes secondary.

>

> Why secondary? Any planet occupying or aspecting the

> 11th from AL

> gives material gains.

>

> Venus is the lord of lagna, HL, GL and SL. He is

> such a key planet.

> He is in paravatamsa and in the strongest house in

> SAV. He is also

> Moon's dispositor. He is the "Kevala Maha Yogada" in

> this chart and

> greatest yoga giver. (Mahayogada is a planet

> associated with lagna,

> HL and GL (all) by occupancy or aspect or ownership.

> If one of the

> mahayogadas owns the sign occupied by Moon, he

> becomes "kevala

> mahayogada" and the strongest candidate to give

> success).

>

> True, he is in the 8th from AL (but aspecting 2nd,

> 5th and 11th from

> AL). This shows sudden rise (8th) in status (AL) and

> bringing of

> money (2nd), fame (5th) and gains (11th). If a great

> yoga giver is in

> the 8th from AL, he gives sudden rise. If a planet

> with a strong

> duryoga (bad combination) is in the 8th from AL, it

> gives sudden fall.

>

> > Lagna Lord exalted in 6th from Lagna, and aspected

> by 3rd lord

> Jupiter,

> > would give him tremendous abilities as a

> researcher, and he was

> hardly known

> > for his work in biology(venus+jupiter) nor

> ayurveda.

>

> I don't see the point. The 8th house is important

> for research.

>

> > Sun and Ketu in 5th:

> > Doesn't Sun and Ketu in 5th house pave the way for

> a person with

> > mathematical ability and knowledge of all sorts of

> things? Notably

> Sun is

> > badhakesh but yet, such strong knowledge should

> surface, even thou

> it

> > creates obstacles for him.

>

> If we were talking about the navamsa chart, your

> point holds. But we

> are talking about the rasi chart.

>

> > AL in Badhaka Sthana:

> > Arudha Lagna in Badhaka Sthana, joining Rahu,

> could surely explain

> cancerous

> > growth in the back. But Atmakaraka and Arudha

> Lagna in Badhaka

> Sthana?? I

> > thought his road to fame & fortune came quick and

> easily.

>

> Yes, his road to fame and fortune was quick (thanks

> to

> exalted "kevala mahayogada" Venus in the 8th from

> AL). But he was

> troubled by all that fame and following. That is

> what AL being in a

> badhaka sthana from lagna shows!!

>

> They say he got fed up quite fast with the stardom.

> He liked being a

> musician, but not being a star. He was a very

> spiritual and

> philosophical person and did not like the spotlight

> and the

> meaningless frenzy of followers. In a way, his

> status (AL) troubled

> (badhaka) him (lagna).

>

> > Regarding Navamsa Lagna:

> > Why didn't you consider Sun's placement in

> reference to Navamsa

> Lagna, he

> > entered the band due to his ability to play the

> guitar, which his

> mother

> > made him do. No doubt he was a good singer, but i

> feel sun should be

> > involved.

>

> That's possible I guess. Sun shows rhythm and Moon

> shows melody. Both

> are important for music. Considering his spiritual,

> righteous,

> philosophical and god-fearing nature, I felt navamsa

> lagna was Sg

> with Jupiter and Saturn in trines. Moon and Venus in

> trines explain

> musical ability and creativity too. Mercury's aspect

> on navamsa lagna

> gives some writing skills too.

>

> He was indeed a man of many skills.

>

> > I hope you find some time to comment on these

> points, as i'd like

> to go

> > further with the rectification from there.

> >

> > Best wishes, Visti.

>

> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> Narasimha

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Visti,

 

So, what is the problem with that?

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

 

> Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha!

> --------

> Dear Nari,

> Yes now i'm convinced.. except the one point about

> Lagna Lord: Venus in 6th recieving Rasi Dristi from

> 3rd lord Jupiter: Dhimantah Yoga?

> Best wishes, Visti.