Guest guest Posted November 26, 2001 Report Share Posted November 26, 2001 dear sailesh I do not want to say that the numbers are correct because i have qouted them from classics. but they represent the minimum required to give strenght to a chart an they are given down to us by great Parashara for nothing, and i can explain what you are intending to ask. in general in sarva ashtakavarga you can observe the following if we have less than 25 points bad to moderate results 25-30 moderate to good results 30 and above good results. first of all you have not send the charts but send the ashtakavarga tables. that is not the correct way isn't it. how will i know where is the lagna which is the main house of the chart. to your query, see in general very few people get high points for their houses. few thumb rules a) never interpret ashtakavarga verbatim as it appears. b) check for favourable combinations and also the strength of planets. c) if a house gets less than minimum required then the person will have to put in extra effort to attain the results of the house and he has to face difficulties regarding the same house significaions. d) i would quote on good example. 11th house need not get 54 if it is found that it is getting more than 10th house(karma or exertion). The native would get more results from less effort. i would quote my example. i am getting 39 points for 10th house , but dear friend i am also getting 30 points for 11th house. what does it imply. i would work very hard , make hundred posts then i would get some feedback and appreciated. some may make a more diplomatic and better presentation would get a better response because his 11th house may be getting more points thatn 10th house. if 9th house gets a lot of points say 40. then even if he gets less points for 10th and 11th would not be a serious problem. as god and luck are with him. regards partha vedic astrology, "Shailesh" <scchadha@h...> wrote: > Dear Partha, > > I am no expert but to me the numbers seem to be odd. > > I have checked a few charts at random- please take a look and respond. > > Best wishes > > Shailesh Chandra Chadha > scchadha@h... > > > > EMPEROR AKBAR > Ashtakavarga Tables (before reduction): > Ar Ta Ge Cn Le Vi Li Sc Sg Cp Aq Pi > Sun 4 3 4 5 7 3 5 4 3* 3 4 3 > Moon 3 4 4 6 4 5 5* 2 3 2 6 5 > Mars 5 3 3 4 4 4 5 2 1 2* 4 2 > Merc 5 5 3 5 6 5 5 6 3* 4 4 3 > Jupi 5 3 3 5 6 5 5* 3 6 5 5 5 > Venu 3 5 5 5 5 4 4 5* 5 4 5 2 > Satu 1 2 3 3 4 5 4* 3 5 1 3 5 > Total 26 25 25 33 36 31 33 25 26 21 31 25 > > Ashtakavarga Tables (after reduction): > Ar Ta Ge Cn Le Vi Li Sc Sg Cp Aq Pi > Sun 0 0 0 2 4 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 > Moon 0 1 0 4 1 3 1 0 0 0 2 3 > Mars 4 0 0 2 3 2 2 0 0 0 1 0 > Merc 0 0 0 2 3 1 2 3 0 0 1 0 > Jupi 0 0 0 2 1 2 2 0 1 2 2 1 > Venu 0 1 1 3 2 0 0 3 2 0 1 0 > Satu 0 0 0 0 3 4 1 0 4 0 0 0 > Total 0 0 0 8 10 10 8 0 0 0 6 0 > > BILL CLINTON > Ashtakavarga Tables (before reduction): > Ar Ta Ge Cn Le Vi Li Sc Sg Cp Aq Pi > Sun 5 5 6 2 4* 5 3 2 3 2 5 6 > Moon 4* 7 4 4 1 5 5 4 3 6 4 2 > Mars 4 4 3 5 2 5* 3 1 4 2 3 3 > Merc 6 7 3 7* 3 5 4 3 5 4 3 4 > Jupi 5 6 4 5 5 3 7* 5 6 3 3 4 > Venu 3 7 4 6 4 4* 3 6 4 1 5 5 > Satu 2 4 4 3* 4 5 1 3 3 1 6 3 > Total 29 40 28 32 23 32 26 24 28 19 29 27 > > Ashtakavarga Tables (after reduction): > Ar Ta Ge Cn Le Vi Li Sc Sg Cp Aq Pi > Sun 2 3 0 0 1 3 0 0 0 0 2 4 > Moon 3 2 0 2 0 0 1 0 2 1 0 0 > Mars 2 2 0 4 0 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 > Merc 3 3 0 4 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 > Jupi 0 3 1 1 0 0 4 1 1 0 0 0 > Venu 0 6 0 1 1 3 0 1 1 0 2 0 > Satu 0 3 0 0 2 4 0 0 1 0 5 0 > Total 6 21 0 8 0 13 0 0 3 0 3 3 > > J R D TATA > Ashtakavarga Tables (before reduction): > Ar Ta Ge Cn Le Vi Li Sc Sg Cp Aq Pi > Sun 5 2 4 6* 3 4 3 2 5 6 5 3 > Moon 5 4 3 3 3 3 4 6 3 4 6* 5 > Mars 5 2 4* 3 1 5 2 2 5 5 3 2 > Merc 4 5 3 6 3* 6 3 6 4 4 5 5 > Jupi 6* 6 5 4 5 4 4 3 6 5 3 5 > Venu 6 6 4 2* 5 4 4 5 4 3 6 3 > Satu 5 5 4 4 3 2 2 2 2 3* 3 4 > Total 36 30 27 28 23 28 22 26 29 30 31 27 > > Ashtakavarga Tables (after reduction): > Ar Ta Ge Cn Le Vi Li Sc Sg Cp Aq Pi > Sun 2 0 1 4 0 1 0 0 1 4 2 1 > Moon 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 1 3 2 > Mars 4 0 2 1 0 2 0 0 4 3 1 0 > Merc 1 1 0 1 0 2 0 0 1 0 2 0 > Jupi 1 1 2 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 > Venu 2 3 0 0 1 1 0 2 0 0 2 1 > Satu 3 3 2 2 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 2 > Total 13 2 5 2 0 0 0 0 1 2 9 1 > > > - > partvinu5 > vedic astrology > Monday, November 26, 2001 9:35 AM > [vedic astrology] Re: ASHTAKAVARGA ANALYSIS - dear sailesh and balaji > > > > dear sailesh and balaji > for third house minimum is 29 points and not 34 poinys as i had > mentioned earlier. there might be plus or minus one point for some > like seventh house and 2nd house. thus the figure for the 11th house > is 54 point and not 44 as you had mentioned. i am 100% sure for the > points for 11th house , the other houses also i ma sure but as i said > may vary by onepoint. > regards > partha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2001 Report Share Posted November 27, 2001 Dear Partha, These charts were provided on this list by one of the members- so I thought you had access to them. Secondly, what puzzles me is use of the word ' MINIMUM POINTS'. If this word is correct, then none of the natives I listed should have got the prosperity that they got. Thirdly, no jyotish tool should be used 'SINGLY' - there are always riders, 'if's & 'but's - therefore we need to learn how to cross-check. That is what I wanted from you - if one wants to follow SAV system, what are the other tools, or aids available to him to cross-verify the 'readings'. Please be rest assured - there was no intended or implied dis-belief or hostility . With best wishes Shailesh Chandra Chadha[ scchadha (AT) hotmail (DOT) com ] - partvinu5 vedic astrology Tuesday, November 27, 2001 9:31 AM [vedic astrology] Re: ASHTAKAVARGA ANALYSIS - dear sailesh and list members dear saileshI do not want to say that the numbers are correct because i have qouted them from classics. but they represent the minimum required to give strenght to a chart an they are given down to us by great Parashara for nothing, and i can explain what you are intending to ask.in general in sarva ashtakavarga you can observe the followingif we have less than 25 points bad to moderate results25-30 moderate to good results30 and above good results.first of all you have not send the charts but send the ashtakavarga tables. that is not the correct way isn't it. how will i know where is the lagna which is the main house of the chart. to your query, see in general very few people get high points for their houses.few thumb rulesa) never interpret ashtakavarga verbatim as it appears.b) check for favourable combinations and also the strength of planets.c) if a house gets less than minimum required then the person will have to put in extra effort to attain the results of the house and he has to face difficulties regarding the same house significaions.d) i would quote on good example.11th house need not get 54 if it is found that it is getting more than 10th house(karma or exertion). The native would get more results from less effort.i would quote my example. i am getting 39 points for 10th house , but dear friend i am also getting 30 points for 11th house. what does it imply. i would work very hard , make hundred posts then i would get some feedback and appreciated. some may make a more diplomatic and better presentation would get a better response because his 11th house may be getting more points thatn 10th house. if 9th house gets a lot of points say 40. then even if he gets less points for 10th and 11th would not be a serious problem. as god and luck are with him.regardspartha vedic astrology, "Shailesh" <scchadha@h...> wrote:> Dear Partha,> > I am no expert but to me the numbers seem to be odd.> > I have checked a few charts at random- please take a look and respond.> > Best wishes> > Shailesh Chandra Chadha> scchadha@h...> > > > EMPEROR AKBAR> Ashtakavarga Tables (before reduction):> Ar Ta Ge Cn Le Vi Li Sc Sg Cp Aq Pi > Sun 4 3 4 5 7 3 5 4 3* 3 4 3 > Moon 3 4 4 6 4 5 5* 2 3 2 6 5 > Mars 5 3 3 4 4 4 5 2 1 2* 4 2 > Merc 5 5 3 5 6 5 5 6 3* 4 4 3 > Jupi 5 3 3 5 6 5 5* 3 6 5 5 5 > Venu 3 5 5 5 5 4 4 5* 5 4 5 2 > Satu 1 2 3 3 4 5 4* 3 5 1 3 5 > Total 26 25 25 33 36 31 33 25 26 21 31 25 > > Ashtakavarga Tables (after reduction):> Ar Ta Ge Cn Le Vi Li Sc Sg Cp Aq Pi > Sun 0 0 0 2 4 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 > Moon 0 1 0 4 1 3 1 0 0 0 2 3 > Mars 4 0 0 2 3 2 2 0 0 0 1 0 > Merc 0 0 0 2 3 1 2 3 0 0 1 0 > Jupi 0 0 0 2 1 2 2 0 1 2 2 1 > Venu 0 1 1 3 2 0 0 3 2 0 1 0 > Satu 0 0 0 0 3 4 1 0 4 0 0 0 > Total 0 0 0 8 10 10 8 0 0 0 6 0 > > BILL CLINTON> Ashtakavarga Tables (before reduction):> Ar Ta Ge Cn Le Vi Li Sc Sg Cp Aq Pi > Sun 5 5 6 2 4* 5 3 2 3 2 5 6 > Moon 4* 7 4 4 1 5 5 4 3 6 4 2 > Mars 4 4 3 5 2 5* 3 1 4 2 3 3 > Merc 6 7 3 7* 3 5 4 3 5 4 3 4 > Jupi 5 6 4 5 5 3 7* 5 6 3 3 4 > Venu 3 7 4 6 4 4* 3 6 4 1 5 5 > Satu 2 4 4 3* 4 5 1 3 3 1 6 3 > Total 29 40 28 32 23 32 26 24 28 19 29 27 > > Ashtakavarga Tables (after reduction):> Ar Ta Ge Cn Le Vi Li Sc Sg Cp Aq Pi > Sun 2 3 0 0 1 3 0 0 0 0 2 4 > Moon 3 2 0 2 0 0 1 0 2 1 0 0 > Mars 2 2 0 4 0 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 > Merc 3 3 0 4 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 > Jupi 0 3 1 1 0 0 4 1 1 0 0 0 > Venu 0 6 0 1 1 3 0 1 1 0 2 0 > Satu 0 3 0 0 2 4 0 0 1 0 5 0 > Total 6 21 0 8 0 13 0 0 3 0 3 3 > > J R D TATA> Ashtakavarga Tables (before reduction):> Ar Ta Ge Cn Le Vi Li Sc Sg Cp Aq Pi > Sun 5 2 4 6* 3 4 3 2 5 6 5 3 > Moon 5 4 3 3 3 3 4 6 3 4 6* 5 > Mars 5 2 4* 3 1 5 2 2 5 5 3 2 > Merc 4 5 3 6 3* 6 3 6 4 4 5 5 > Jupi 6* 6 5 4 5 4 4 3 6 5 3 5 > Venu 6 6 4 2* 5 4 4 5 4 3 6 3 > Satu 5 5 4 4 3 2 2 2 2 3* 3 4 > Total 36 30 27 28 23 28 22 26 29 30 31 27 > > Ashtakavarga Tables (after reduction):> Ar Ta Ge Cn Le Vi Li Sc Sg Cp Aq Pi > Sun 2 0 1 4 0 1 0 0 1 4 2 1 > Moon 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 1 3 2 > Mars 4 0 2 1 0 2 0 0 4 3 1 0 > Merc 1 1 0 1 0 2 0 0 1 0 2 0 > Jupi 1 1 2 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 > Venu 2 3 0 0 1 1 0 2 0 0 2 1 > Satu 3 3 2 2 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 2 > Total 13 2 5 2 0 0 0 0 1 2 9 1 > > > - > partvinu5 > To: vedic astrology > Monday, November 26, 2001 9:35 AM> Subject: [vedic astrology] Re: ASHTAKAVARGA ANALYSIS - dear sailesh and balaji> > > > dear sailesh and balaji> for third house minimum is 29 points and not 34 poinys as i had > mentioned earlier. there might be plus or minus one point for some > like seventh house and 2nd house. thus the figure for the 11th house > is 54 point and not 44 as you had mentioned. i am 100% sure for the > points for 11th house , the other houses also i ma sure but as i said > may vary by onepoint.> regards> parthaArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... 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Guest guest Posted November 27, 2001 Report Share Posted November 27, 2001 dear sailesh I have given in detail my explanations in the post with subject head as dasgupta sir. I do not want to get into an argument here as it would be not good. In the past i have tried to explain my points in sincere way. if you are following all the posts on the ashtakavarga then you wouldn't have asked those questions.Minimum points indicate the minimum required for getting full results for the particular house. if the house is getting lesser points then the native has to work very hard for the significations for the particular house concerned. regards partha vedic astrology, "Shailesh C Chadha" <scchadha@h...> wrote: > Dear Partha, > > These charts were provided on this list by one of the members- so I thought you had access to them. > > Secondly, what puzzles me is use of the word ' MINIMUM POINTS'. If this word is correct, then none of the natives I listed should have got the prosperity that they got. > > Thirdly, no jyotish tool should be used 'SINGLY' - there are always riders, 'if's & 'but's - therefore we need to learn how to cross- check. > > That is what I wanted from you - if one wants to follow SAV system, what are the other tools, or aids available to him to cross-verify the 'readings'. > > Please be rest assured - there was no intended or implied dis- belief or hostility . > > With best wishes > > Shailesh Chandra Chadha > [ scchadha@h... ] > > > > - > partvinu5 > vedic astrology > Tuesday, November 27, 2001 9:31 AM > [vedic astrology] Re: ASHTAKAVARGA ANALYSIS - dear sailesh and list members > > > dear sailesh > I do not want to say that the numbers are correct because i have > qouted them from classics. but they represent the minimum required to > give strenght to a chart an they are given down to us by great > Parashara for nothing, and i can explain what you are intending to > ask. > > in general in sarva ashtakavarga you can observe the following > if we have less than 25 points bad to moderate results > 25-30 moderate to good results > 30 and above good results. > > first of all you have not send the charts but send the ashtakavarga > tables. that is not the correct way isn't it. how will i know where > is the lagna which is the main house of the chart. > > to your query, see in general very few people get high points for > their houses. > > few thumb rules > > a) never interpret ashtakavarga verbatim as it appears. > > b) check for favourable combinations and also the strength of planets. > > c) if a house gets less than minimum required then the person will > have to put in extra effort to attain the results of the house and > he has to face difficulties regarding the same house significaions. > d) i would quote on good example. > > 11th house need not get 54 if it is found that it is getting more > than 10th house(karma or exertion). The native would get more > results from less effort. > > i would quote my example. i am getting 39 points for 10th house , but > dear friend i am also getting 30 points for 11th house. what does it > imply. i would work very hard , make hundred posts then i would get > some feedback and appreciated. some may make a more diplomatic and > better presentation would get a better response because his 11th > house may be getting more points thatn 10th house. > if 9th house gets a lot of points say 40. then even if he gets less > points for 10th and 11th would not be a serious problem. as god and > luck are with him. > > regards > partha > > vedic astrology, "Shailesh" <scchadha@h...> wrote: > > Dear Partha, > > > > I am no expert but to me the numbers seem to be odd. > > > > I have checked a few charts at random- please take a look and > respond. > > > > Best wishes > > > > Shailesh Chandra Chadha > > scchadha@h... > > > > > > > > EMPEROR AKBAR > > Ashtakavarga Tables (before reduction): > > Ar Ta Ge Cn Le Vi Li Sc Sg Cp Aq Pi > > Sun 4 3 4 5 7 3 5 4 3* 3 4 3 > > Moon 3 4 4 6 4 5 5* 2 3 2 6 5 > > Mars 5 3 3 4 4 4 5 2 1 2* 4 2 > > Merc 5 5 3 5 6 5 5 6 3* 4 4 3 > > Jupi 5 3 3 5 6 5 5* 3 6 5 5 5 > > Venu 3 5 5 5 5 4 4 5* 5 4 5 2 > > Satu 1 2 3 3 4 5 4* 3 5 1 3 5 > > Total 26 25 25 33 36 31 33 25 26 21 31 25 > > > > Ashtakavarga Tables (after reduction): > > Ar Ta Ge Cn Le Vi Li Sc Sg Cp Aq Pi > > Sun 0 0 0 2 4 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 > > Moon 0 1 0 4 1 3 1 0 0 0 2 3 > > Mars 4 0 0 2 3 2 2 0 0 0 1 0 > > Merc 0 0 0 2 3 1 2 3 0 0 1 0 > > Jupi 0 0 0 2 1 2 2 0 1 2 2 1 > > Venu 0 1 1 3 2 0 0 3 2 0 1 0 > > Satu 0 0 0 0 3 4 1 0 4 0 0 0 > > Total 0 0 0 8 10 10 8 0 0 0 6 0 > > > > BILL CLINTON > > Ashtakavarga Tables (before reduction): > > Ar Ta Ge Cn Le Vi Li Sc Sg Cp Aq Pi > > Sun 5 5 6 2 4* 5 3 2 3 2 5 6 > > Moon 4* 7 4 4 1 5 5 4 3 6 4 2 > > Mars 4 4 3 5 2 5* 3 1 4 2 3 3 > > Merc 6 7 3 7* 3 5 4 3 5 4 3 4 > > Jupi 5 6 4 5 5 3 7* 5 6 3 3 4 > > Venu 3 7 4 6 4 4* 3 6 4 1 5 5 > > Satu 2 4 4 3* 4 5 1 3 3 1 6 3 > > Total 29 40 28 32 23 32 26 24 28 19 29 27 > > > > Ashtakavarga Tables (after reduction): > > Ar Ta Ge Cn Le Vi Li Sc Sg Cp Aq Pi > > Sun 2 3 0 0 1 3 0 0 0 0 2 4 > > Moon 3 2 0 2 0 0 1 0 2 1 0 0 > > Mars 2 2 0 4 0 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 > > Merc 3 3 0 4 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 > > Jupi 0 3 1 1 0 0 4 1 1 0 0 0 > > Venu 0 6 0 1 1 3 0 1 1 0 2 0 > > Satu 0 3 0 0 2 4 0 0 1 0 5 0 > > Total 6 21 0 8 0 13 0 0 3 0 3 3 > > > > J R D TATA > > Ashtakavarga Tables (before reduction): > > Ar Ta Ge Cn Le Vi Li Sc Sg Cp Aq Pi > > Sun 5 2 4 6* 3 4 3 2 5 6 5 3 > > Moon 5 4 3 3 3 3 4 6 3 4 6* 5 > > Mars 5 2 4* 3 1 5 2 2 5 5 3 2 > > Merc 4 5 3 6 3* 6 3 6 4 4 5 5 > > Jupi 6* 6 5 4 5 4 4 3 6 5 3 5 > > Venu 6 6 4 2* 5 4 4 5 4 3 6 3 > > Satu 5 5 4 4 3 2 2 2 2 3* 3 4 > > Total 36 30 27 28 23 28 22 26 29 30 31 27 > > > > Ashtakavarga Tables (after reduction): > > Ar Ta Ge Cn Le Vi Li Sc Sg Cp Aq Pi > > Sun 2 0 1 4 0 1 0 0 1 4 2 1 > > Moon 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 1 3 2 > > Mars 4 0 2 1 0 2 0 0 4 3 1 0 > > Merc 1 1 0 1 0 2 0 0 1 0 2 0 > > Jupi 1 1 2 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 > > Venu 2 3 0 0 1 1 0 2 0 0 2 1 > > Satu 3 3 2 2 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 2 > > Total 13 2 5 2 0 0 0 0 1 2 9 1 > > > > > > - > > partvinu5 > > vedic astrology > > Monday, November 26, 2001 9:35 AM > > [vedic astrology] Re: ASHTAKAVARGA ANALYSIS - dear > sailesh and balaji > > > > > > > > dear sailesh and balaji > > for third house minimum is 29 points and not 34 poinys as i had > > mentioned earlier. there might be plus or minus one point for > some > > like seventh house and 2nd house. thus the figure for the 11th > house > > is 54 point and not 44 as you had mentioned. i am 100% sure for > the > > points for 11th house , the other houses also i ma sure but as i > said > > may vary by onepoint. > > regards > > partha > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... 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