Guest guest Posted November 26, 2001 Report Share Posted November 26, 2001 Dear Friends, Well I guess this is not the right way to reach a member, who has aksed a personal question. Well what happens is Rajinder Nath's mail box is full and his mail is bouncing back, so I am sending this message this way. Also I think that respected members can take a look at my analysis and give their comments. His question was something like this: What causes him to have strong relationship with his son? His son's chart is attached below. Thanks Everyone and Regards Rajesh Kumaria ____ Dear Rajinder Although I am very busy thesedays due to my own job etc., yet I have really tried to understand your questions and come up with some answers. You can do your own detailed investigations, after studying Narayana maha dasas and argalas, which is one of the focus points of this group. So if I understand correctly you want to know what causes you to have strong relationship with your son: Its not the Jupiter and Saturn combination. Infact Jupiter is not exalted at all in gemini and saturn in sagittarius in 5th house is in a rather weak position. Saturn is strong in Libra, Capricorn and Aquarius only. Jupiter is strong in Cancer, Sagittarius and Pisces only. Looking carefully at Ravi's 9th house, Mars, Venus and Rau have a strong argala on it, being 10th from the 9th house. 9th house belongs to relationship with Father. Exalted Mars in Capricorn who is also the yogakaraka and natural benfic Venus causes the string relation ship with your son but Rahu has a malefi argala(influence) on this relation ship. Jupiter also has a good argala on 9th house. So whenever Jupiter passes through Capricorn or has string Rashi Drishti on Capricorn i.e. when Jupiter passes through Taurus, Leo and Scorpio, then it will activate these planets(Rahu. mars and venus), which will cause the relationship to become string and at the same time there will be some tension in the relationshup as Jupiter's aspect on Rahu is not good. Please note that these are Rashi Drishti's only and differ from Planetary aspects. Rashi Drishti's can be used with Narayana Dasa system..You can read the rules on the archive section/file section of the vedic astrology group's website. There are some Excel Spreadsheets also available on the website to compute the dates for Narayana Dasas, but first you must understand the rules carefully..you will also need help from artciles on narayana dasa..search the articles for 1998-99 dates It will take you few weeks to learn this system and we all are still learing the predictions etc of this system. These are Sun Based Rashi Maha Dasas and are very different from the usual Moon based Vimshottari dasas. Both dasas are good and required for complete predictions.. ..Moon based dasas show state of mind and Rashi based(Sun based) dasas show actual developments in this life. Vimshottari dasas can also be fine tuned to high degree but its very complex to do so. It require slots of experience while Rashi Dasas are direct and more sharp. Good Luck with your research regards Rajesh Kumaria -- These calculations were made using "Jagannatha Hora Lite". It is a free software from Sri Jagannath Vedic Centre. You can download it from http://www.geocities.com/~astrowhiz or http://www.sjvc.net. -- Date of Birth: March 18, 1990 Time of Birth: 4:15:00 pm Time Zone of Birth: 5:00 West of GMT Longitude of Birth: 77 W 02 Latitude of Birth: 38 N 54 Lunar month (maasa): Phalguna Lunar day (tithi): Krishna Sapthami Tithi balance: 0.1638 Nakshatra balance: 0.2759 Sun-Moon Yoga: Siddhi Sun-Moon Karana: Bava Vara (weekday): Sunday Sunrise = 6:17 am (Apparent rise - upper limb) Ayanamsa = 23-43-25 Dasa year length chosen = 365.2425 days Planet Position Pada CharaK Ascdt 10 Le 26 Makha 4 - Sun 4 Pi 17 U.Bhaa. 1 GK Moon 26 Sc 19 Jyeshtha 3 AmK Mars 11 Cp 37 Sravanam 1 MK Mercury 4 Pi 03 U.Bhaa. 1 DK Jupiter 7 Ge 52 Aardra 1 PK Venus 18 Cp 23 Sravanam 3 BK Saturn 29 Sg 51 U.Shaa. 1 AK Rahu 20 Cp 39 Sravanam 4 PiK Ketu 20 Cn 39 Aasresha 2 - BhavaLg 3 Le 15 Makha 1 - HoraLg 2 Cp 39 U.Shaa. 2 - GhatiLg 0 Ar 49 Aswini 1 - Dhooma 17 Cn 37 Aasresha 1 - Vyati 12 Sg 22 Moola 4 - Pari 12 Ge 22 Aardra 2 - I.Chapa 17 Cp 37 Sravanam 3 - Upaketu 4 Aq 17 Dhanishtha 4 - Kaala 3 Pi 03 Poo.Bhaa. 4 - Mrityu 9 Ta 22 Krittika 4 - ArthaPr 2 Ge 49 Mrigasira 3 - YamaGha 22 Ge 43 Punarvasu 1 - Mandi 8 Le 00 Makha 3 - Gulika 29 Cn 01 Aasresha 4 - +----------------------+ | | | | | | Mer | | | | | | GL | | Jup | | Sun | | | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | Ket | | | | | | | | Glk | | | | | |-------------| R A S I |-------------| | | | BL | | HL Mar | | | | | | Mnd | | Ven Rah | | | | | | Asc | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | | | | | Sat | Moo | | | | | | | | | | | | | +----------------------+ +----------------------+ | | GL | | | | | | | Mnd | | Glk | BL | | | | | | | Ven | | | Mar | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | Asc | | Moo | | | | | | Rah | | | | | |-------------| N A V A M S A |-------------| | | | | | Ket | | Mer | | | | | | HL | | Sun | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | Jup | | | | | | | | | | Sat | | | | | | | | | +----------------------+ Vimsottari Dasa: Merc 1990-03-18 Satu 1992-03-16 Ketu 1994-11-24 Venu 1995-04-23 Sun 1996-06-22 Moon 1996-10-28 Mars 1997-05-29 Rahu 1997-10-25 Jupi 1998-11-12 Satu 1999-10-19 Merc 2000-11-27 Venu 2001-11-24 Sun 2005-03-26 Moon 2006-03-26 Mars 2007-11-25 Rahu 2009-01-24 Jupi 2012-01-24 Satu 2014-09-24 Merc 2017-11-24 Ketu 2020-09-24 Sun 2021-11-24 Moon 2022-03-14 Mars 2022-09-12 Rahu 2023-01-18 Jupi 2023-12-13 Satu 2024-09-30 Merc 2025-09-12 Ketu 2026-07-19 Venu 2026-11-24 Moon 2027-11-24 Mars 2028-09-24 Rahu 2029-04-25 Jupi 2030-10-25 Satu 2032-02-24 Merc 2033-09-24 Ketu 2035-02-23 Venu 2035-09-25 Sun 2037-05-25 Mars 2037-11-24 Rahu 2038-04-22 Jupi 2039-05-11 Satu 2040-04-15 Merc 2041-05-25 Ketu 2042-05-22 Venu 2042-10-19 Sun 2043-12-19 Moon 2044-04-25 Rahu 2044-11-24 Jupi 2047-08-07 Satu 2049-12-30 Merc 2052-11-05 Ketu 2055-05-26 Venu 2056-06-12 Sun 2059-06-13 Moon 2060-05-07 Mars 2061-11-05 Jupi 2062-11-24 Satu 2065-01-11 Merc 2067-07-25 Ketu 2069-10-30 Venu 2070-10-06 Sun 2073-06-06 Moon 2074-03-25 Mars 2075-07-25 Rahu 2076-06-30 Satu 2078-11-24 Merc 2081-11-27 Ketu 2084-08-06 Venu 2085-09-15 Sun 2088-11-14 Moon 2089-10-27 Mars 2091-05-28 Rahu 2092-07-06 Jupi 2095-05-13 Ashtottari Dasa: Merc 1990-03-18 Sun 1992-11-16 Moon 1993-10-27 Mars 1996-03-07 Satu 1997-06-10 Jupi 1998-05-14 Rahu 2000-02-16 Venu 2001-03-28 Sun 2003-03-08 Moon 2003-09-27 Mars 2005-02-15 Merc 2005-11-12 Jupi 2007-06-10 Rahu 2010-10-13 Venu 2012-11-22 Sun 2016-08-03 Moon 2017-08-23 Mars 2020-04-13 Merc 2021-09-09 Satu 2024-09-05 Rahu 2026-06-10 Venu 2027-10-10 Sun 2030-02-08 Moon 2030-10-10 Mars 2032-06-09 Merc 2033-04-30 Satu 2035-03-21 Jupi 2036-04-30 Venu 2038-06-10 Sun 2042-07-10 Moon 2043-09-09 Mars 2046-08-10 Merc 2048-02-29 Satu 2051-06-20 Jupi 2053-05-30 Rahu 2057-02-08 Sun 2059-06-10 Moon 2059-10-10 Mars 2060-08-09 Merc 2061-01-18 Satu 2061-12-29 Jupi 2062-07-20 Rahu 2063-08-10 Venu 2064-04-09 Moon 2065-06-09 Mars 2067-07-10 Merc 2068-08-19 Satu 2070-12-30 Jupi 2072-05-20 Rahu 2075-01-09 Venu 2076-09-08 Sun 2079-08-10 Mars 2080-06-09 Merc 2081-01-12 Satu 2082-04-16 Jupi 2083-01-12 Rahu 2084-06-09 Venu 2085-04-30 Sun 2086-11-19 Moon 2087-04-30 Merc 2088-06-09 Satu 2091-02-11 Jupi 2092-09-08 Rahu 2095-09-06 Venu 2097-07-27 Sun 2100-11-16 Moon 2101-10-27 Mars 2104-03-07 Kalachakra Dasa: Pi 1990-03-18 Aq 1991-01-03 Cp 1991-03-13 Ge 1991-05-21 Le 1991-10-22 Cn 1992-01-16 Vi 1993-01-11 Li 1993-06-15 Sc 1994-03-17 Pi 1994-07-15 Cp 1995-01-03 Ge 1995-03-13 Le 1995-08-15 Cn 1995-11-08 Vi 1996-11-03 Li 1997-04-07 Sc 1998-01-07 Pi 1998-05-07 Aq 1998-10-26 Sg 1999-01-03 Sc 2000-01-03 Li 2000-09-15 Vi 2002-04-22 Le 2003-03-17 Cn 2003-09-16 Ge 2005-10-22 Ta 2006-09-15 Ar 2008-04-22 Sc 2009-01-02 Li 2009-06-30 Vi 2010-08-14 Le 2011-04-01 Cn 2011-08-06 Ge 2013-01-24 Ta 2013-09-11 Ar 2014-10-26 Sg 2015-04-23 Li 2016-01-03 Vi 2018-07-26 Le 2020-01-03 Cn 2020-10-21 Ge 2024-03-02 Ta 2025-08-10 Ar 2028-03-02 Sg 2029-04-15 Sc 2030-11-20 Vi 2032-01-03 Le 2032-10-25 Cn 2033-04-07 Ge 2035-02-27 Ta 2035-12-19 Ar 2037-05-28 Sg 2038-01-13 Sc 2038-12-08 Li 2039-07-26 Le 2041-01-02 Cn 2041-04-04 Ge 2042-04-22 Ta 2042-10-03 Ar 2043-07-23 Sg 2043-11-27 Sc 2044-05-28 Li 2044-10-03 Vi 2045-07-22 Cn 2046-01-02 Ge 2050-06-01 Ta 2052-04-21 Ar 2055-09-01 Sg 2057-02-19 Sc 2059-03-28 Li 2060-09-15 Vi 2064-01-25 Le 2065-12-15 Ge 2067-01-03 Ta 2067-10-25 Ar 2069-04-03 Sg 2069-11-19 Sc 2070-10-14 Li 2071-06-01 Vi 2072-11-08 Le 2073-08-31 Cn 2074-02-11 Ta 2076-01-03 Ar 2078-07-26 Sg 2079-09-08 Sc 2081-04-14 Li 2082-05-28 Vi 2084-12-18 Le 2086-05-28 Cn 2087-03-16 Ge 2090-07-26 Ar 2092-01-03 Sg 2092-06-30 Sc 2093-03-12 Li 2093-09-07 Vi 2094-10-21 Le 2095-06-08 Cn 2095-10-14 Ge 2097-04-03 Ta 2097-11-19 Ashtakavarga Tables (before reduction): Ar Ta Ge Cn Le Vi Li Sc Sg Cp Aq Pi Sun 4 2 4 5 4 4 5 5 4 6 3 2* Moon 4 8 4 2 2 6 6 3* 3 5 2 4 Mars 3 4 3 4 6 2 3 3 3 5* 1 2 Merc 4 4 3 4 7 5 2 6 3 7 5 4* Jupi 6 5 5* 4 4 5 3 6 5 5 4 4 Venu 5 2 3 3 4 5 6 5 3 5* 5 6 Satu 4 4 4 0 2 2 6 5 4* 4 2 2 Total 30 29 26 22 29 29 31 33 25 37 22 24 Ashtakavarga Tables (after reduction): Ar Ta Ge Cn Le Vi Li Sc Sg Cp Aq Pi Sun 0 0 1 3 0 1 2 3 0 4 0 0 Moon 1 3 2 0 0 0 3 1 1 0 0 2 Mars 0 0 2 2 3 0 0 1 0 3 0 0 Merc 0 0 1 0 4 0 0 2 0 3 0 0 Jupi 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 2 1 0 1 0 Venu 0 0 0 0 1 3 3 2 0 3 0 3 Satu 0 2 2 0 0 0 2 5 2 2 0 2 Total 0 0 4 0 4 0 9 11 0 8 0 2 Sodya Pindas: RasiP GrahaP SodyaP Rasi Nakshatra Sun 83 85 168 Pi Aasresha Moon 115 50 165 Vi Jyeshtha Mars 77 70 147 Sg Aasresha Merc 79 65 144 Pi Aasresha Jupi 52 35 87 Vi Aasresha Venu 113 85 198 Vi Jyeshtha Satu 142 105 247 Vi Satabhisham +----------------------+ | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | Sat HL | | | | | | | | Mar | | | | | | | | Mer Sun | |-------------| H O R A |-------------| | | | GL Jup | | | | Ket Glk | | | | BL Mnd | | | | Asc Moo | | | | Ven Rah | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | +----------------------+ +----------------------+ | | | | | | Ket Glk | | Mar | | | | GL | | Jup | | Mer Sun | | Ven | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | | | | | Moo | | | | | | | | | |-------------| D - 3 |-------------| | | | BL | | | | | | HL | | Mnd | | | | | | | | Sat | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | | | | | Asc | | | Rah | | | | | | | | | | | +----------------------+ +----------------------+ | | GL | | | | Mer | | | | | | Glk | | | | Sun | | | | | | Mar | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | Ven | | | | | | | | Rah | | | | | |-------------| D - 4 |-------------| | | | | | Ket | | BL | | | | | | HL | | Moo | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | Mnd | | Jup | | | | | | | | Asc | | Sat | | | | | | +----------------------+ +----------------------+ | | | HL | | | | GL | | | | | | Mer | | | | BL | | | | | | Sun | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | Jup | | | | | | | | Mnd | | | | | | | | Asc | | | |-------------| D - 5 |-------------| | Ket | | | | | | | | Ven | | | | | | | | Rah | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | Glk | | | | | | Sat | Mar | | | Moo | | | | | | | | +----------------------+ +----------------------+ | | | | | | Glk | GL | Jup | | | | | | Asc | | Moo | BL | Mnd | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | Ket | | | | | | | | Rah | | | | | | | |-------------| D - 6 |-------------| | | | | | | | | | Ven | | | | | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | HL | | | | | | | | Mar | | Mer | Sat | | | | | | | | | Sun | | +----------------------+ +----------------------+ | | | | | | | | | | | | GL | Ket | Sat | | | | | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | Jup | | | | | | | | Glk | | | | | | | | HL | |-------------| D - 7 |-------------| | | | | | | | | | | | BL | | | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | Moo | | Mnd | | | | Asc | | | | Ven | | Mar | | | | Sun | | | | Rah | | Mer | +----------------------+ +----------------------+ | | | | | | | GL | | | | Sat | | | | | | HL | | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | Mnd | | Moo | | | | | | Asc | | Mar | | | | | |-------------| D - 8 |-------------| | | | | | | | | | | | Ven | | | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | | | Ket Rah | | BL | Glk | Jup | | | | | | Mer Sun | | | | | | +----------------------+ +----------------------+ | Moo | | | | | | | | | | Ven | GL | | | | | | | | | Rah | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-------------| D - 1 0 |-------------| | | | | | | | | | | | Jup | | | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | Glk Mar | | | Ket BL | | | Asc | Mnd | | | Mer Sun | | | Sat HL | | | | | | +----------------------+ +----------------------+ | | | | | | | GL | | Moo Sat | | Asc | | | | | | Jup | | Mer Sun | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | Mnd | | | | | | HL | | Rah | | | | | | | |-------------| D - 1 1 |-------------| | | | | | BL | | | | | | Ket | | Ven | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | Glk | | | | | | | | | | Mar | | | | | | | | +----------------------+ +----------------------+ | | GL | | | | | | | | | Ket | Mer | Mar | Glk | | | | | | | | Sun | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | | | HL | | | | | | | | | | | |-------------| D - 1 2 |-------------| | | | | | | | | | | | Ven | | | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | Mnd | | Jup BL | | Asc | | | | | | Sat | | Moo Rah | | | | | | +----------------------+ +----------------------+ | Ket | | | | | | GL | | | | Sat | | HL | | | | Jup | | | | Rah | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | Mer | | | | | | Glk | | Sun | | | | | | | |-------------| D - 1 6 |-------------| | | | | | Asc | | | | | | | | Ven | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | | Moo | | | Mnd | | | BL | | | | Mar | | | | | | | +----------------------+ +----------------------+ | | | Ket Mnd | | | | GL | | | | Sat | | Moo | Asc | | | Ven | | | | | | HL Rah | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | | | BL | | | | | | | | | | | |-------------| D - 2 0 |-------------| | | | | | | | | | Jup | | | | | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | Glk | Mer | | | | | | | | | Mar | Sun | | | | | | | +----------------------+ +----------------------+ | | Asc | | | | | | | | | | Moo | | Glk | | | | | | | | Mar | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | Jup | | | | | | Sat | | Mnd | | | | | | | |-------------| D - 2 4 |-------------| | | | | | | | | | | | GL | | | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | BL | | | | Ket | | HL | | | | Mer | | | | Rah | | Ven | | | | Sun | | +----------------------+ +----------------------+ | | GL | | | | | | Jup | BL | | Glk | Mer | | | | | | Mar | Sat | | | Sun | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | | | | | Ket | | | | | | | | | |-------------| D - 2 7 |-------------| | | | | | Asc | | | | | | | | Rah | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | Mnd | | | | Moo | | | HL | | | Ven | | | | | | | | +----------------------+ +----------------------+ | | | HL | | | | GL | | | | Ven | | Mer | | | | BL | | | | | | Sun | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | Jup | | | | | | | | Mnd | | | | | | | |-------------| D - 3 0 |-------------| | | | | | Ket | | | | | | | | Rah | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | Glk | | | | Asc | | Sat | Mar | | | Moo | | | | | | | | +----------------------+ +----------------------+ | | | | | | Mer | | GL | | | | | | | | Sun | | Asc | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | Jup | | | | | | Sat | | Mnd | | | | | | | |-------------| D - 4 0 |-------------| | | | | | Ket HL | | | | | | BL | | Mar Rah | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | | | | | Glk | | Ven | Moo | | | | | | | | | | | +----------------------+ +----------------------+ | | | | | | | | | Mer | | | | GL | | | | | | Sun | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | HL | | | | | | | | Ven | | | | | |-------------| D - 4 5 |-------------| | | | | | | | Mnd | | | | | | | | Sat | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | Jup Glk | Ket | | | BL | | | Mar | | | Asc Moo | Rah | | | | | | | +----------------------+ +----------------------+ | | | | | | | | GL | HL | | Moo | Asc | | | | | | Glk | Rah | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | | | BL | | | | | | | | | | | |-------------| D - 6 0 |-------------| | | | | | | | | | Ven | | | | | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | Ket | Sat | | | | | | | | | Mnd | Mer | | Jup | | | | | | | Mar | Sun | | | +----------------------+ GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities./ps/info1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2001 Report Share Posted November 27, 2001 Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha! ------------------ Dear Rajesh, I don't agree entirely on your analysis. To see the relation between the Father, and the Son in the sons chart, see the relationship between: 1. AL and Sun. 2. AL and Chara Pitri Karaka. 3. AL and 9th lord. 4. A9 and Lagna/Paka Lagna. I would watch this in Rasi. Each of the 4 shows something different. Don't ask me about it, but meditate hard! You can likewise see the relationship between Lagna Lord and 9th lord in Dwadasamsa, to see how their "own agendas" relate to each other. i.e. If they want the same objective, they will be in trines to each other. If they work together, then they will be in Kendra. If one spends much time in a foreign country, then there will be a 12th/2nd(Dwadasi) relationship. And so on. My Brother has MatriPada in 8th from Lagna, and he feels that his mother deliberately tries to create distress for him. Similarly MatriPada is in 6th from Paka Lagna.. He's been so throughout life, and yes they both quarrel alot. He was born: Larsen, Asgar: July 3, 1983 Time: 2:53:00 Time Zone: 3:00:00 (East of GMT) Longitude: 36 E 49' 00" Latitude: 1 S 17' 00" Best wishes, Visti. --- Rajesh Kumaria <rajeshkumaria2000 wrote: > Dear Friends, > Well I guess this is not the right way to reach a > member, who has aksed a personal question. Well what > happens is Rajinder Nath's mail box is full and his > mail is bouncing back, so I am sending this message > this way. Also I think that respected members can > take > a look at my analysis and give their comments. > > His question was something like this: > What causes him to have strong relationship with his > son? His son's chart is attached below. Thanks > Everyone and Regards > Rajesh Kumaria > ____ > > > Dear Rajinder > Although I am very busy thesedays due to my own job > etc., yet I have really tried to understand your > questions and come up with some answers. You can do > your own detailed investigations, after studying > Narayana maha dasas and argalas, which is one of the > focus points of this group. > > So if I understand correctly you want to know what > causes you to have strong relationship with your > son: > Its not the Jupiter and Saturn combination. Infact > Jupiter is not exalted at all in gemini and saturn > in > sagittarius in 5th house is in a rather weak > position. > Saturn is strong in Libra, Capricorn and Aquarius > only. Jupiter is strong in Cancer, Sagittarius and > Pisces only. > > Looking carefully at Ravi's 9th house, Mars, Venus > and > Rau have a strong argala on it, being 10th from the > 9th house. 9th house belongs to relationship with > Father. Exalted Mars in Capricorn who is also the > yogakaraka and natural benfic Venus causes the > string > relation ship with your son but Rahu has a malefi > argala(influence) on this relation ship. Jupiter > also > has a good argala on 9th house. So whenever Jupiter > passes through Capricorn or has string Rashi Drishti > on Capricorn i.e. when Jupiter passes through > Taurus, > Leo and Scorpio, then it will activate these > planets(Rahu. mars and venus), which will cause the > relationship to become string and at the same time > there will be some tension in the relationshup as > Jupiter's aspect on Rahu is not good. Please note > that > these are Rashi Drishti's only and differ from > Planetary aspects. Rashi Drishti's can be used with > Narayana Dasa system..You can read the rules on the > archive section/file section of the vedic astrology > group's website. There are some Excel Spreadsheets > also available on the website to compute the dates > for > Narayana Dasas, but first you must understand the > rules carefully..you will also need help from > artciles > on narayana dasa..search the articles for 1998-99 > dates > > It will take you few weeks to learn this system and > we > all are still learing the predictions etc of this > system. These are Sun Based Rashi Maha Dasas and are > very different from the usual Moon based > Vimshottari > dasas. Both dasas are good and required for complete > predictions.. ..Moon based dasas show state of mind > and Rashi based(Sun based) dasas show actual > developments in this life. > Vimshottari dasas can also be fine tuned to high > degree but its very complex to do so. It require > slots > of experience while Rashi Dasas are direct and more > sharp. > Good Luck with your research > > regards > Rajesh Kumaria > > -- > These calculations were made using "Jagannatha Hora > Lite". It is a > free software from Sri Jagannath Vedic Centre. You > can download it > from http://www.geocities.com/~astrowhiz or > http://www.sjvc.net. > -- > > Date of Birth: March 18, 1990 > Time of Birth: 4:15:00 pm > Time Zone of Birth: 5:00 West of GMT > Longitude of Birth: 77 W 02 > Latitude of Birth: 38 N 54 > Lunar month (maasa): Phalguna > Lunar day (tithi): Krishna Sapthami > Tithi balance: 0.1638 > Nakshatra balance: 0.2759 > Sun-Moon Yoga: Siddhi > Sun-Moon Karana: Bava > Vara (weekday): Sunday > > Sunrise = 6:17 am (Apparent rise - upper limb) > Ayanamsa = 23-43-25 > Dasa year length chosen = 365.2425 days > > Planet Position Pada CharaK > > Ascdt 10 Le 26 Makha 4 - > Sun 4 Pi 17 U.Bhaa. 1 GK > Moon 26 Sc 19 Jyeshtha 3 AmK > Mars 11 Cp 37 Sravanam 1 MK > Mercury 4 Pi 03 U.Bhaa. 1 DK > Jupiter 7 Ge 52 Aardra 1 PK > Venus 18 Cp 23 Sravanam 3 BK > Saturn 29 Sg 51 U.Shaa. 1 AK > Rahu 20 Cp 39 Sravanam 4 PiK > Ketu 20 Cn 39 Aasresha 2 - > BhavaLg 3 Le 15 Makha 1 - > HoraLg 2 Cp 39 U.Shaa. 2 - > GhatiLg 0 Ar 49 Aswini 1 - > Dhooma 17 Cn 37 Aasresha 1 - > Vyati 12 Sg 22 Moola 4 - > Pari 12 Ge 22 Aardra 2 - > I.Chapa 17 Cp 37 Sravanam 3 - > Upaketu 4 Aq 17 Dhanishtha 4 - > Kaala 3 Pi 03 Poo.Bhaa. 4 - > Mrityu 9 Ta 22 Krittika 4 - > ArthaPr 2 Ge 49 Mrigasira 3 - > YamaGha 22 Ge 43 Punarvasu 1 - > Mandi 8 Le 00 Makha 3 - > Gulika 29 Cn 01 Aasresha 4 - > > > +----------------------+ > | | | | > > | > | Mer | | | > > | > | | GL | | Jup > > | > | Sun | | | > > | > | | | | > > | > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| > | | | > > | > | | | Ket > > | > | | | > > | > | | | > Glk > | > | | | > > | > |-------------| R A S I > |-------------| > | | | BL > > | > | HL Mar | | > > | > | | | Mnd > > | > | Ven Rah | | > > | > | | | > Asc > | > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| > | | | | > > | > | | | | > > | > | Sat | Moo | | > === message truncated === GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities./ps/info1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2001 Report Share Posted November 27, 2001 Hi Visti, I'm trying to follow along with this and from what you wrote below, it seems like that would show how others perceive the relationship since you're using arudha lagna, is that correct? If you're looking at the son's chart and want to know how he feels about his father, should you look at the relationship between the real lagna and pada of sun, the lagna and pada of chara pitri karaka, and then the lagna and pada of 9th lord? And then if you want to see how the father feels of the son while still looking in the son's chart would you look at the relationship between 9th house and the pada of the atmakaraka and then 9th house and the pada of the lord of 1st? If I'm mixed up here, can you please let me know? Thanks, Angie vedic astrology, Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream> wrote: > Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha! > ------------------ > To see the relation between the Father, and the Son in > the sons chart, see the relationship between: > > 1. AL and Sun. > 2. AL and Chara Pitri Karaka. > 3. AL and 9th lord. > 4. A9 and Lagna/Paka Lagna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2001 Report Share Posted November 27, 2001 Dear Visti & Rajesh, I guess the current dasa/bukthi should also be considered i.,e 1) dasa lord and A9 (to see how the son perceives the father in that dasa) ? & 2) 9th Lord/Sun/PiK and pada of dasa lord (to see how father perceives the son during that dasa) ? -Shriram vedic astrology, Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream> wrote: > Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha! > ------------------ > Dear Rajesh, > I don't agree entirely on your analysis. > > To see the relation between the Father, and the Son in > the sons chart, see the relationship between: > > 1. AL and Sun. > 2. AL and Chara Pitri Karaka. > 3. AL and 9th lord. > 4. A9 and Lagna/Paka Lagna. > > I would watch this in Rasi. > Each of the 4 shows something different. > Don't ask me about it, but meditate hard! > > You can likewise see the relationship between Lagna > Lord and 9th lord in Dwadasamsa, to see how their "own > agendas" relate to each other. > > i.e. If they want the same objective, they will be in > trines to each other. > If they work together, then they will be in Kendra. > If one spends much time in a foreign country, then > there will be a 12th/2nd(Dwadasi) relationship. > And so on. > > My Brother has MatriPada in 8th from Lagna, and he > feels that his mother deliberately tries to create > distress for him. Similarly MatriPada is in 6th from > Paka Lagna.. He's been so throughout life, and yes > they both quarrel alot. > > He was born: > Larsen, Asgar: > July 3, 1983 > Time: 2:53:00 > Time Zone: 3:00:00 (East of GMT) > Longitude: 36 E 49' 00" > Latitude: 1 S 17' 00" > > Best wishes, Visti. > > --- Rajesh Kumaria <rajeshkumaria2000> > wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > Well I guess this is not the right way to reach a > > member, who has aksed a personal question. Well what > > happens is Rajinder Nath's mail box is full and his > > mail is bouncing back, so I am sending this message > > this way. Also I think that respected members can > > take > > a look at my analysis and give their comments. > > > > His question was something like this: > > What causes him to have strong relationship with his > > son? His son's chart is attached below. Thanks > > Everyone and Regards > > Rajesh Kumaria > > ____ > > > > > > Dear Rajinder > > Although I am very busy thesedays due to my own job > > etc., yet I have really tried to understand your > > questions and come up with some answers. You can do > > your own detailed investigations, after studying > > Narayana maha dasas and argalas, which is one of the > > focus points of this group. > > > > So if I understand correctly you want to know what > > causes you to have strong relationship with your > > son: > > Its not the Jupiter and Saturn combination. Infact > > Jupiter is not exalted at all in gemini and saturn > > in > > sagittarius in 5th house is in a rather weak > > position. > > Saturn is strong in Libra, Capricorn and Aquarius > > only. Jupiter is strong in Cancer, Sagittarius and > > Pisces only. > > > > Looking carefully at Ravi's 9th house, Mars, Venus > > and > > Rau have a strong argala on it, being 10th from the > > 9th house. 9th house belongs to relationship with > > Father. Exalted Mars in Capricorn who is also the > > yogakaraka and natural benfic Venus causes the > > string > > relation ship with your son but Rahu has a malefi > > argala(influence) on this relation ship. Jupiter > > also > > has a good argala on 9th house. So whenever Jupiter > > passes through Capricorn or has string Rashi Drishti > > on Capricorn i.e. when Jupiter passes through > > Taurus, > > Leo and Scorpio, then it will activate these > > planets(Rahu. mars and venus), which will cause the > > relationship to become string and at the same time > > there will be some tension in the relationshup as > > Jupiter's aspect on Rahu is not good. Please note > > that > > these are Rashi Drishti's only and differ from > > Planetary aspects. Rashi Drishti's can be used with > > Narayana Dasa system..You can read the rules on the > > archive section/file section of the vedic astrology > > group's website. There are some Excel Spreadsheets > > also available on the website to compute the dates > > for > > Narayana Dasas, but first you must understand the > > rules carefully..you will also need help from > > artciles > > on narayana dasa..search the articles for 1998-99 > > dates > > > > It will take you few weeks to learn this system and > > we > > all are still learing the predictions etc of this > > system. These are Sun Based Rashi Maha Dasas and are > > very different from the usual Moon based > > Vimshottari > > dasas. Both dasas are good and required for complete > > predictions.. ..Moon based dasas show state of mind > > and Rashi based(Sun based) dasas show actual > > developments in this life. > > Vimshottari dasas can also be fine tuned to high > > degree but its very complex to do so. It require > > slots > > of experience while Rashi Dasas are direct and more > > sharp. > > Good Luck with your research > > > > regards > > Rajesh Kumaria > > > > > -- > > These calculations were made using "Jagannatha Hora > > Lite". It is a > > free software from Sri Jagannath Vedic Centre. You > > can download it > > from http://www.geocities.com/~astrowhiz or > > http://www.sjvc.net. > > > -- > > > > Date of Birth: March 18, 1990 > > Time of Birth: 4:15:00 pm > > Time Zone of Birth: 5:00 West of GMT > > Longitude of Birth: 77 W 02 > > Latitude of Birth: 38 N 54 > > Lunar month (maasa): Phalguna > > Lunar day (tithi): Krishna Sapthami > > Tithi balance: 0.1638 > > Nakshatra balance: 0.2759 > > Sun-Moon Yoga: Siddhi > > Sun-Moon Karana: Bava > > Vara (weekday): Sunday > > > > Sunrise = 6:17 am (Apparent rise - upper limb) > > Ayanamsa = 23-43-25 > > Dasa year length chosen = 365.2425 days > > > > Planet Position Pada CharaK > > > > Ascdt 10 Le 26 Makha 4 - > > Sun 4 Pi 17 U.Bhaa. 1 GK > > Moon 26 Sc 19 Jyeshtha 3 AmK > > Mars 11 Cp 37 Sravanam 1 MK > > Mercury 4 Pi 03 U.Bhaa. 1 DK > > Jupiter 7 Ge 52 Aardra 1 PK > > Venus 18 Cp 23 Sravanam 3 BK > > Saturn 29 Sg 51 U.Shaa. 1 AK > > Rahu 20 Cp 39 Sravanam 4 PiK > > Ketu 20 Cn 39 Aasresha 2 - > > BhavaLg 3 Le 15 Makha 1 - > > HoraLg 2 Cp 39 U.Shaa. 2 - > > GhatiLg 0 Ar 49 Aswini 1 - > > Dhooma 17 Cn 37 Aasresha 1 - > > Vyati 12 Sg 22 Moola 4 - > > Pari 12 Ge 22 Aardra 2 - > > I.Chapa 17 Cp 37 Sravanam 3 - > > Upaketu 4 Aq 17 Dhanishtha 4 - > > Kaala 3 Pi 03 Poo.Bhaa. 4 - > > Mrityu 9 Ta 22 Krittika 4 - > > ArthaPr 2 Ge 49 Mrigasira 3 - > > YamaGha 22 Ge 43 Punarvasu 1 - > > Mandi 8 Le 00 Makha 3 - > > Gulika 29 Cn 01 Aasresha 4 - > > > > > > > +----------------------+ > > | | | | > > > > | > > | Mer | | | > > > > | > > | | GL | | Jup > > > > | > > | Sun | | | > > > > | > > | | | | > > > > | > > > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| > > | | | > > > > | > > | | | Ket > > > > | > > | | | > > > > | > > | | | > > Glk > > | > > | | | > > > > | > > |-------------| R A S I > > |-------------| > > | | | BL > > > > | > > | HL Mar | | > > > > | > > | | | Mnd > > > > | > > | Ven Rah | | > > > > | > > | | | > > Asc > > | > > > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| > > | | | | > > > > | > > | | | | > > > > | > > | Sat | Moo | | > > > === message truncated === > > > > > GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. > http://geocities./ps/info1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2001 Report Share Posted November 27, 2001 Om Namo Shivaya! ------- Dear Angie, Atlast!! The sensations of hate, love, affection do not come from the soul, but are states attributed to the mind only. Will you say that your soul loves another soul, without realising that you've just made a big differentiation between that individual soul and ALL the other souls which are exactly the same? We are all alike, thats the truth, there is this whole that encompasses us all, be it animal, plant, insect, human, metal, etc.. When Maya steps in, we start differentiating between others 'using emotions'. i.e. I like this red spoon more than this white spoon. Shiva only sees the soul, thats why he can manifest horrors to the body, to guide us towards the actual truth that we aren't flesh and blood. One of the reasons that the deity of the Sun is represented by Shiva. Those with a keen mind, will start seeing the spectrum of Sun, Moon and Lagna again. Sun showing the whole, Moon giving the emotion, and Lagna showing body as the utility. Any other comparisens? Sattwa, Rajas.....??? So tell me, how far does your perception go? What does it mean to percieve? So where do we see our enemy? What is an enemy really? Best wishes, Visti. --- spyrikal wrote: > Hi Visti, I'm trying to follow along with this and > from what you wrote below, it seems like that would > show how others perceive the relationship since > you're using arudha lagna, is that correct? If > you're looking at the son's chart and want to know > how he feels about his father, should you look at > the relationship between the real lagna and pada of > sun, the lagna and pada of chara pitri karaka, and > then the lagna and pada of 9th lord? And then if > you want to see how the father feels of the son > while still looking in the son's chart would you > look at the relationship between 9th house and the > pada of the atmakaraka and then 9th house and the > pada of the lord of 1st? If I'm mixed up here, can > you please let me know? Thanks, Angie > > > vedic astrology, Visti Larsen > <in_joy_i_scream> wrote: > > Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha! > > > ------------------ > > To see the relation between the Father, and the > Son in > > the sons chart, see the relationship between: > > > > 1. AL and Sun. > > 2. AL and Chara Pitri Karaka. > > 3. AL and 9th lord. > > 4. A9 and Lagna/Paka Lagna. > > > GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities./ps/info1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2001 Report Share Posted November 27, 2001 Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha! ---------- Dear Shriram, I've experimented abit with this, however not in the detail of specific family members. As always there will be a predominance from birth, which changes with time. As the moon rules emotion, the Antar Dasa should show the results. Ï observed that people become unpopular during the Antar Dasa(Vimshottari) of malefics aspecting the Arudha Lagna, or planets inauspiciously placed therefrom. Make sure you refer to the propper Varga as well. The Maha Dasa should also support the activity. Heres something from Sarvatah Chintamani; "During the Main period of the 3rd house, and the Sub-period of Malefic planets, there is loss of brother & also rift with them." Best wishes, Visti. --- shris1 wrote: > Dear Visti & Rajesh, > I guess the current dasa/bukthi > should also be > considered i.,e > 1) dasa lord and A9 (to see how the son perceives > the father in that > dasa) ? & > 2) 9th Lord/Sun/PiK and pada of dasa lord (to see > how father > perceives the son during that dasa) ? > > > -Shriram > > vedic astrology, Visti Larsen > <in_joy_i_scream> > wrote: > > Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha! > > > ------------------ > > Dear Rajesh, > > I don't agree entirely on your analysis. > > > > To see the relation between the Father, and the > Son in > > the sons chart, see the relationship between: > > > > 1. AL and Sun. > > 2. AL and Chara Pitri Karaka. > > 3. AL and 9th lord. > > 4. A9 and Lagna/Paka Lagna. > > > > I would watch this in Rasi. > > Each of the 4 shows something different. > > Don't ask me about it, but meditate hard! > > > > You can likewise see the relationship between > Lagna > > Lord and 9th lord in Dwadasamsa, to see how their > "own > > agendas" relate to each other. > > > > i.e. If they want the same objective, they will be > in > > trines to each other. > > If they work together, then they will be in > Kendra. > > If one spends much time in a foreign country, then > > there will be a 12th/2nd(Dwadasi) relationship. > > And so on. > > > > My Brother has MatriPada in 8th from Lagna, and he > > feels that his mother deliberately tries to create > > distress for him. Similarly MatriPada is in 6th > from > > Paka Lagna.. He's been so throughout life, and yes > > they both quarrel alot. > > > > He was born: > > Larsen, Asgar: > > July 3, 1983 > > Time: 2:53:00 > > Time Zone: 3:00:00 (East of GMT) > > Longitude: 36 E 49' 00" > > Latitude: 1 S 17' 00" > > > > Best wishes, Visti. > > > > --- Rajesh Kumaria <rajeshkumaria2000> > > wrote: > > > Dear Friends, > > > Well I guess this is not the right way to reach > a > > > member, who has aksed a personal question. Well > what > > > happens is Rajinder Nath's mail box is full and > his > > > mail is bouncing back, so I am sending this > message > > > this way. Also I think that respected members > can > > > take > > > a look at my analysis and give their comments. > > > > > > His question was something like this: > > > What causes him to have strong relationship with > his > > > son? His son's chart is attached below. Thanks > > > Everyone and Regards > > > Rajesh Kumaria > > > ____ > > > > > > > > > Dear Rajinder > > > Although I am very busy thesedays due to my own > job > > > etc., yet I have really tried to understand your > > > questions and come up with some answers. You can > do > > > your own detailed investigations, after studying > > > Narayana maha dasas and argalas, which is one of > the > > > focus points of this group. > > > > > > So if I understand correctly you want to know > what > > > causes you to have strong relationship with your > > > son: > > > Its not the Jupiter and Saturn combination. > Infact > > > Jupiter is not exalted at all in gemini and > saturn > > > in > > > sagittarius in 5th house is in a rather weak > > > position. > > > Saturn is strong in Libra, Capricorn and > Aquarius > > > only. Jupiter is strong in Cancer, Sagittarius > and > > > Pisces only. > > > > > > Looking carefully at Ravi's 9th house, Mars, > Venus > > > and > > > Rau have a strong argala on it, being 10th from > the > > > 9th house. 9th house belongs to relationship > with > > > Father. Exalted Mars in Capricorn who is also > the > > > yogakaraka and natural benfic Venus causes the > > > string > > > relation ship with your son but Rahu has a > malefi > > > argala(influence) on this relation ship. Jupiter > > > also > > > has a good argala on 9th house. So whenever > Jupiter > > > passes through Capricorn or has string Rashi > Drishti > > > on Capricorn i.e. when Jupiter passes through > > > Taurus, > > > Leo and Scorpio, then it will activate these > > > planets(Rahu. mars and venus), which will cause > the > > > relationship to become string and at the same > time > > > there will be some tension in the relationshup > as > > > Jupiter's aspect on Rahu is not good. Please > note > > > that > > > these are Rashi Drishti's only and differ from > > > Planetary aspects. Rashi Drishti's can be used > with > > > Narayana Dasa system..You can read the rules on > the > > > archive section/file section of the vedic > astrology > > > group's website. There are some Excel > Spreadsheets > > > also available on the website to compute the > dates > > > for > > > Narayana Dasas, but first you must understand > the > > > rules carefully..you will also need help from > > > artciles > > > on narayana dasa..search the articles for > 1998-99 > > > dates > > > > > > It will take you few weeks to learn this system > and > > > we > > > all are still learing the predictions etc of > this > > > system. These are Sun Based Rashi Maha Dasas and > are > > > very different from the usual Moon based > > > Vimshottari > > > dasas. Both dasas are good and required for > complete > > > predictions.. ..Moon based dasas show state of > mind > > > and Rashi based(Sun based) dasas show actual > > > developments in this life. > > > Vimshottari dasas can also be fine tuned to > high > > > degree but its very complex to do so. It require > > > slots > > > of experience while Rashi Dasas are direct and > more > > > sharp. > > > Good Luck with your research > > > > > > regards > > > Rajesh Kumaria > > > > > > > > > -- > === message truncated === GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities./ps/info1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2001 Report Share Posted November 27, 2001 Dear Visti, Namaskar First of all, many thanks for your time for giving these rules. Actually my interpretations are based on the assumption that Rajinder Nath has a good relationship with his son. Then I applied Narayana Dasa, argalas and Rashi-Aspects of Jupiter while in tansit, to time such events.(ALthough I could not get enough time thesedays to compute the actual dates). All this is based upon ideas that I got from Pt. Sanjay Rath's COVA book. You are making a fundamental research here regarding the actual relationship and its perceptions. Well some combinations of AL and other combinations(like 9th Lord, Pik etc) show that they are in Kendra to each other yet other combinations in D-12 show that they are in 6th/8th poistion form each other(Lagna Lord Jupiter and 9th Lord Sun of D12 in D-12 chart)...so this makes me confused..which one do you consider as final deciding factor here? Also it appears that you did not agree with conbinations suggested by Angie, although she appears to be very logical here. I still did not uderstand your reply to her. May be it will take some time. Any ideas would be appreciated. Actually relationship with Father and Mother/Brother/Sister/Children/Friends affect a native's life very much just like the relationship with spouse. May be we can study such topics when time is available..At present I am still struggling with my own job affairs. Actually these relationships become even more critical when career is affected, so we simply cannot ignore them. Thanks and Regards Rajesh Kumaria vedic astrology, Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream> wrote: > Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha! > ------------------ > Dear Rajesh, > I don't agree entirely on your analysis. > > To see the relation between the Father, and the Son in > the sons chart, see the relationship between: > > 1. AL and Sun. > 2. AL and Chara Pitri Karaka. > 3. AL and 9th lord. > 4. A9 and Lagna/Paka Lagna. > > I would watch this in Rasi. > Each of the 4 shows something different. > Don't ask me about it, but meditate hard! > > You can likewise see the relationship between Lagna > Lord and 9th lord in Dwadasamsa, to see how their "own > agendas" relate to each other. > > i.e. If they want the same objective, they will be in > trines to each other. > If they work together, then they will be in Kendra. > If one spends much time in a foreign country, then > there will be a 12th/2nd(Dwadasi) relationship. > And so on. > > My Brother has MatriPada in 8th from Lagna, and he > feels that his mother deliberately tries to create > distress for him. Similarly MatriPada is in 6th from > Paka Lagna.. He's been so throughout life, and yes > they both quarrel alot. > > He was born: > Larsen, Asgar: > July 3, 1983 > Time: 2:53:00 > Time Zone: 3:00:00 (East of GMT) > Longitude: 36 E 49' 00" > Latitude: 1 S 17' 00" > > Best wishes, Visti. > > --- Rajesh Kumaria <rajeshkumaria2000> > wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > Well I guess this is not the right way to reach a > > member, who has aksed a personal question. Well what > > happens is Rajinder Nath's mail box is full and his > > mail is bouncing back, so I am sending this message > > this way. Also I think that respected members can > > take > > a look at my analysis and give their comments. > > > > His question was something like this: > > What causes him to have strong relationship with his > > son? His son's chart is attached below. Thanks > > Everyone and Regards > > Rajesh Kumaria > > ____ > > > > > > Dear Rajinder > > Although I am very busy thesedays due to my own job > > etc., yet I have really tried to understand your > > questions and come up with some answers. You can do > > your own detailed investigations, after studying > > Narayana maha dasas and argalas, which is one of the > > focus points of this group. > > > > So if I understand correctly you want to know what > > causes you to have strong relationship with your > > son: > > Its not the Jupiter and Saturn combination. Infact > > Jupiter is not exalted at all in gemini and saturn > > in > > sagittarius in 5th house is in a rather weak > > position. > > Saturn is strong in Libra, Capricorn and Aquarius > > only. Jupiter is strong in Cancer, Sagittarius and > > Pisces only. > > > > Looking carefully at Ravi's 9th house, Mars, Venus > > and > > Rau have a strong argala on it, being 10th from the > > 9th house. 9th house belongs to relationship with > > Father. Exalted Mars in Capricorn who is also the > > yogakaraka and natural benfic Venus causes the > > string > > relation ship with your son but Rahu has a malefi > > argala(influence) on this relation ship. Jupiter > > also > > has a good argala on 9th house. So whenever Jupiter > > passes through Capricorn or has string Rashi Drishti > > on Capricorn i.e. when Jupiter passes through > > Taurus, > > Leo and Scorpio, then it will activate these > > planets(Rahu. mars and venus), which will cause the > > relationship to become string and at the same time > > there will be some tension in the relationshup as > > Jupiter's aspect on Rahu is not good. Please note > > that > > these are Rashi Drishti's only and differ from > > Planetary aspects. Rashi Drishti's can be used with > > Narayana Dasa system..You can read the rules on the > > archive section/file section of the vedic astrology > > group's website. There are some Excel Spreadsheets > > also available on the website to compute the dates > > for > > Narayana Dasas, but first you must understand the > > rules carefully..you will also need help from > > artciles > > on narayana dasa..search the articles for 1998-99 > > dates > > > > It will take you few weeks to learn this system and > > we > > all are still learing the predictions etc of this > > system. These are Sun Based Rashi Maha Dasas and are > > very different from the usual Moon based > > Vimshottari > > dasas. Both dasas are good and required for complete > > predictions.. ..Moon based dasas show state of mind > > and Rashi based(Sun based) dasas show actual > > developments in this life. > > Vimshottari dasas can also be fine tuned to high > > degree but its very complex to do so. It require > > slots > > of experience while Rashi Dasas are direct and more > > sharp. > > Good Luck with your research > > > > regards > > Rajesh Kumaria > > > > > -- > > These calculations were made using "Jagannatha Hora > > Lite". It is a > > free software from Sri Jagannath Vedic Centre. You > > can download it > > from http://www.geocities.com/~astrowhiz or > > http://www.sjvc.net. > > > -- > > > > Date of Birth: March 18, 1990 > > Time of Birth: 4:15:00 pm > > Time Zone of Birth: 5:00 West of GMT > > Longitude of Birth: 77 W 02 > > Latitude of Birth: 38 N 54 > > Lunar month (maasa): Phalguna > > Lunar day (tithi): Krishna Sapthami > > Tithi balance: 0.1638 > > Nakshatra balance: 0.2759 > > Sun-Moon Yoga: Siddhi > > Sun-Moon Karana: Bava > > Vara (weekday): Sunday > > > > Sunrise = 6:17 am (Apparent rise - upper limb) > > Ayanamsa = 23-43-25 > > Dasa year length chosen = 365.2425 days > > > > Planet Position Pada CharaK > > > > Ascdt 10 Le 26 Makha 4 - > > Sun 4 Pi 17 U.Bhaa. 1 GK > > Moon 26 Sc 19 Jyeshtha 3 AmK > > Mars 11 Cp 37 Sravanam 1 MK > > Mercury 4 Pi 03 U.Bhaa. 1 DK > > Jupiter 7 Ge 52 Aardra 1 PK > > Venus 18 Cp 23 Sravanam 3 BK > > Saturn 29 Sg 51 U.Shaa. 1 AK > > Rahu 20 Cp 39 Sravanam 4 PiK > > Ketu 20 Cn 39 Aasresha 2 - > > BhavaLg 3 Le 15 Makha 1 - > > HoraLg 2 Cp 39 U.Shaa. 2 - > > GhatiLg 0 Ar 49 Aswini 1 - > > Dhooma 17 Cn 37 Aasresha 1 - > > Vyati 12 Sg 22 Moola 4 - > > Pari 12 Ge 22 Aardra 2 - > > I.Chapa 17 Cp 37 Sravanam 3 - > > Upaketu 4 Aq 17 Dhanishtha 4 - > > Kaala 3 Pi 03 Poo.Bhaa. 4 - > > Mrityu 9 Ta 22 Krittika 4 - > > ArthaPr 2 Ge 49 Mrigasira 3 - > > YamaGha 22 Ge 43 Punarvasu 1 - > > Mandi 8 Le 00 Makha 3 - > > Gulika 29 Cn 01 Aasresha 4 - > > > > > > > +----------------------+ > > | | | | > > > > | > > | Mer | | | > > > > | > > | | GL | | Jup > > > > | > > | Sun | | | > > > > | > > | | | | > > > > | > > > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| > > | | | > > > > | > > | | | Ket > > > > | > > | | | > > > > | > > | | | > > Glk > > | > > | | | > > > > | > > |-------------| R A S I > > |-------------| > > | | | BL > > > > | > > | HL Mar | | > > > > | > > | | | Mnd > > > > | > > | Ven Rah | | > > > > | > > | | | > > Asc > > | > > > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| > > | | | | > > > > | > > | | | | > > > > | > > | Sat | Moo | | > > > === message truncated === > > > > > GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. > http://geocities./ps/info1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2001 Report Share Posted November 27, 2001 Dear Visti, Fantastic and to the point phylosophy. You impressed me. Best wishes, Dasgupta - Visti Larsen vedic astrology Wednesday, November 28, 2001 2:44 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: For Rajinder Nath: Relationship with son.... Om Namo Shivaya!-------Dear Angie,Atlast!!The sensations of hate, love, affection do not comefrom the soul, but are states attributed to the mindonly. Will you say that your soul loves another soul,without realising that you've just made a bigdifferentiation between that individual soul and ALLthe other souls which are exactly the same?We are all alike, thats the truth, there is this wholethat encompasses us all, be it animal, plant, insect,human, metal, etc.. When Maya steps in, we startdifferentiating between others 'using emotions'.i.e. I like this red spoon more than this white spoon.Shiva only sees the soul, thats why he can manifesthorrors to the body, to guide us towards the actualtruth that we aren't flesh and blood. One of thereasons that the deity of the Sun is represented byShiva.Those with a keen mind, will start seeing the spectrumof Sun, Moon and Lagna again. Sun showing the whole,Moon giving the emotion, and Lagna showing body as theutility.Any other comparisens? Sattwa, Rajas.....???So tell me, how far does your perception go? What doesit mean to percieve?So where do we see our enemy? What is an enemy really?Best wishes, Visti.--- spyrikal (AT) webtv (DOT) net wrote:> Hi Visti, I'm trying to follow along with this and> from what you wrote below, it seems like that would> show how others perceive the relationship since> you're using arudha lagna, is that correct? If> you're looking at the son's chart and want to know> how he feels about his father, should you look at> the relationship between the real lagna and pada of> sun, the lagna and pada of chara pitri karaka, and> then the lagna and pada of 9th lord? And then if> you want to see how the father feels of the son> while still looking in the son's chart would you> look at the relationship between 9th house and the> pada of the atmakaraka and then 9th house and the> pada of the lord of 1st? If I'm mixed up here, can> you please let me know? Thanks, Angie > > > --- In vedic astrology, Visti Larsen> <in_joy_i_scream> wrote:> > Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha!> >> ------------------> > To see the relation between the Father, and the> Son in> > the sons chart, see the relationship between: > > > > 1. AL and Sun.> > 2. AL and Chara Pitri Karaka.> > 3. AL and 9th lord.> > 4. A9 and Lagna/Paka Lagna.> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2001 Report Share Posted November 28, 2001 Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha! ---- Dear Rajesh, The answer is right in front of you in the chart. Best wishes, Visti. --- rajeshkumaria2000 wrote: > Dear Visti, > Namaskar > First of all, many thanks for your time for giving > these rules. > Actually my interpretations are based on the > assumption that Rajinder > Nath has a good relationship with his son. Then I > applied Narayana > Dasa, argalas and Rashi-Aspects of Jupiter while in > tansit, to time > such events.(ALthough I could not get enough time > thesedays to > compute the actual dates). All this is based upon > ideas that I got > from Pt. Sanjay Rath's COVA book. > > > You are making a fundamental research here regarding > the actual > relationship and its perceptions. Well some > combinations of AL and > other combinations(like 9th Lord, Pik etc) show > that they are in > Kendra to each other yet other combinations in D-12 > show that they > are in 6th/8th poistion form each other(Lagna Lord > Jupiter and 9th > Lord Sun of D12 in D-12 chart)...so this makes me > confused..which one > do you consider as final deciding factor here? Also > it appears that > you did not agree with conbinations suggested by > Angie, although she > appears to be very logical here. I still did not > uderstand your reply > to her. May be it will take some time. > > Any ideas would be appreciated. Actually > relationship with Father and > Mother/Brother/Sister/Children/Friends affect a > native's life very > much just like the relationship with spouse. May be > we can study such > topics when time is available..At present I am still > struggling with > my own job affairs. Actually these relationships > become even more > critical when career is affected, so we simply > cannot ignore them. > > Thanks and Regards > Rajesh Kumaria > > vedic astrology, Visti Larsen > <in_joy_i_scream> > wrote: > > Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha! > > > ------------------ > > Dear Rajesh, > > I don't agree entirely on your analysis. > > > > To see the relation between the Father, and the > Son in > > the sons chart, see the relationship between: > > > > 1. AL and Sun. > > 2. AL and Chara Pitri Karaka. > > 3. AL and 9th lord. > > 4. A9 and Lagna/Paka Lagna. > > > > I would watch this in Rasi. > > Each of the 4 shows something different. > > Don't ask me about it, but meditate hard! > > > > You can likewise see the relationship between > Lagna > > Lord and 9th lord in Dwadasamsa, to see how their > "own > > agendas" relate to each other. > > > > i.e. If they want the same objective, they will be > in > > trines to each other. > > If they work together, then they will be in > Kendra. > > If one spends much time in a foreign country, then > > there will be a 12th/2nd(Dwadasi) relationship. > > And so on. > > > > My Brother has MatriPada in 8th from Lagna, and he > > feels that his mother deliberately tries to create > > distress for him. Similarly MatriPada is in 6th > from > > Paka Lagna.. He's been so throughout life, and yes > > they both quarrel alot. > > > > He was born: > > Larsen, Asgar: > > July 3, 1983 > > Time: 2:53:00 > > Time Zone: 3:00:00 (East of GMT) > > Longitude: 36 E 49' 00" > > Latitude: 1 S 17' 00" > > > > Best wishes, Visti. > > > > --- Rajesh Kumaria <rajeshkumaria2000> > > wrote: > > > Dear Friends, > > > Well I guess this is not the right way to reach > a > > > member, who has aksed a personal question. Well > what > > > happens is Rajinder Nath's mail box is full and > his > > > mail is bouncing back, so I am sending this > message > > > this way. Also I think that respected members > can > > > take > > > a look at my analysis and give their comments. > > > > > > His question was something like this: > > > What causes him to have strong relationship with > his > > > son? His son's chart is attached below. Thanks > > > Everyone and Regards > > > Rajesh Kumaria > > > ____ > > > > > > > > > Dear Rajinder > > > Although I am very busy thesedays due to my own > job > > > etc., yet I have really tried to understand your > > > questions and come up with some answers. You can > do > > > your own detailed investigations, after studying > > > Narayana maha dasas and argalas, which is one of > the > > > focus points of this group. > > > > > > So if I understand correctly you want to know > what > > > causes you to have strong relationship with your > > > son: > > > Its not the Jupiter and Saturn combination. > Infact > > > Jupiter is not exalted at all in gemini and > saturn > > > in > > > sagittarius in 5th house is in a rather weak > > > position. > > > Saturn is strong in Libra, Capricorn and > Aquarius > > > only. Jupiter is strong in Cancer, Sagittarius > and > > > Pisces only. > > > > > > Looking carefully at Ravi's 9th house, Mars, > Venus > > > and > > > Rau have a strong argala on it, being 10th from > the > > > 9th house. 9th house belongs to relationship > with > > > Father. Exalted Mars in Capricorn who is also > the > > > yogakaraka and natural benfic Venus causes the > > > string > > > relation ship with your son but Rahu has a > malefi > > > argala(influence) on this relation ship. Jupiter > > > also > > > has a good argala on 9th house. So whenever > Jupiter > > > passes through Capricorn or has string Rashi > Drishti > > > on Capricorn i.e. when Jupiter passes through > > > Taurus, > > > Leo and Scorpio, then it will activate these > > > planets(Rahu. mars and venus), which will cause > the > > > relationship to become string and at the same > time > > > there will be some tension in the relationshup > as > > > Jupiter's aspect on Rahu is not good. Please > note > > > that > > > these are Rashi Drishti's only and differ from > > > Planetary aspects. Rashi Drishti's can be used > with > > > Narayana Dasa system..You can read the rules on > the > > > archive section/file section of the vedic > astrology > > > group's website. There are some Excel > Spreadsheets > > > also available on the website to compute the > dates > === message truncated === GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities./ps/info1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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