Guest guest Posted November 7, 2001 Report Share Posted November 7, 2001 Dear Partha, The expression "struggling with expenditure" is 'not my cup of tea' as people tend to create expenditure as a result of their own (or nearest/dearest) actions (that is frequently true for the majority). Saturn in the 12th is the disciplinant/teacher in this matter i.e for these people there is a lesson to be learned here. This depends naturally also on the placement of the Moon AND the Nakshatra that Saturn is occupying and aspects to it. What I find very disturbing for Leo Asc. with Saturn in the 12th (frequently in this connection) is - a) the spouse causing expenditure/debt b) envy from secret enemies which may cause trouble/lost. The health issue for Leo's is another story and as it is a physical/mental issue there are many other components involved such as the Sun (L1) and (again) the Moon L12/Mind), Mars (blood pressure) Mercury (nerve system). See also Mr. Achar Prashanth's mail regarding the lady with Leo Asc/Saturn in 12th and Moon in 6th. This is from the edge of the fork ... Kind regards Jay Weiss - <partvinu5 <vedic astrology> Wednesday, November 07, 2001 9:19 AM [vedic astrology] Re: SATURN (Article)(dear Jay Weiss from partha > > dear jay > the postion of saturn in 12th is good for taurus and libra > ascendants. If it has proved benificial to you, then it must be due > to his placements in the divisional charts also. Because for leo > lagna saturn in 12th gives troubles. I know a leo native who has > saturn in 12th and is struggling with espenditure and health. Also > saturn with mars gives travel abroad. 4th lord in 12th with 7th lord. > also cancer is a chara rasi. > regards > partha > vedic astrology, "Jay Weiss" <jayhw@t...> wrote: > > Dear Partha and list, > > > > Allow me to add a "living example" which supports Visti's "Saturn > in 12th is good". > > I have Saturn in 12th conjoining YK Mars (Leo lagna) and > Saturn/Saturn dasa (just ending) proved to be an excellent period > jobwise (besides the last few month) but much separation from family > because of it, as all jobs were abroad and involved constant > (weekly/monthly) travel. > > I have another chart of a young person who is in it's first part of > the same (with same lagna and Sa. in 12th) and so far the dasa seems > to develop in a similar way. > > However Saturn in this position will cause expenditure due to the > issues covered by the houses it rules, in the above cases issues of > the 6th and 7th houses. > > > > Kind Regards > > > > Jay Weiss > > > > > > - > > "Visti Larsen" <in_joy_i_scream> > > <vedic astrology> > > Tuesday, November 06, 2001 9:38 AM > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: SATURN (Article)(dear visti) > > > > > > > Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha! > > > --------- > > > Dear Partha, > > > Saturn in 12th is good. However when retrogade, it > > > shows that a sorrow from past life will follow this > > > Vipareet Raja Yoga..and it may not last long. > > > > > > Preferably Saturn should be unconjoined in Dustahana, > > > as the other planets will suffer..By not looking at > > > the whole chart i can say that its not very fortunate. > > > > > > Any feet problems? > > > > > > Best wishes, Visti. > > > > > > --- partvinu5 wrote: > > > > dear visti > > > > If saturn is retrograde and in 12th house for libra > > > > ascendant native > > > > what would be the results. also jupiter is in graha > > > > yuddha with > > > > saturn being half a degree behind saturn. > > > > kind regards > > > > partha > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Visti Larsen > > > > <in_joy_i_scream> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha! > > > > > ------- > > > > > Dear Partha & Brahma, > > > > > Actually Saturn in 12th for Taurus/Libra Lagna is > > > > a > > > > > great blessing. It gives Vipareet Raja Yoga of a > > > > high > > > > > order, especially for Taurus Lagna. > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, Visti. > > > > > p.s. Dear Partha, make sure you get some good > > > > rest, > > > > > before enduring in the heavy issues on the list. > > > > > > > > > > --- partvinu5 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > dear L brahma > > > > > > even for libra and taurus ascendants saturn > > > > should > > > > > > be well placed. he > > > > > > should not be afflicted and badly placed! > > > > > > though i must confess that for libra and taurus > > > > > > ascendants saturn > > > > > > does less harm than other ascendants as saturn > > > > is a > > > > > > great friend of > > > > > > venus, the lagna lord for libra nad taurus > > > > > > ascendants. > > > > > > regards > > > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "lakshman > > > > jagannath" > > > > > > <lbrahma@h...> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Partha, > > > > > > > As Sa is a RYK for Taurus and Libra ascendants > > > > > > could you also > > > > > > explain > > > > > > > somthing as regards to the 71/2 years (saade > > > > > > saathi) effects > > > > > > (Transit > > > > > > > effects). will they be different or will be > > > > same > > > > > > as regards other > > > > > > > ascendants.? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and with best regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > L Brahma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >partvinu5 > > > > > > > >vedic astrology > > > > > > > >vedic astrology > > > > > > > >[vedic astrology] SATURN (Article) > > > > > > > >Sat, 03 Nov 2001 13:11:59 -0000 > > > > > > > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > > > > > > > >X-Originating-IP: 203.90.93.84 > > > > > > > >Received: from [216.115.96.68] by hotmail.com > > > > > > (3.2) with ESMTP id > > > > > > > >MHotMailBDAD36F6005740043155D8736044DD38221; > > > > Sat, > > > > > > 03 Nov 2001 > > > > > > 05:13:45 > > > > > > > >-0800 > > > > > > > >Received: from [10.1.1.221] by > > > > > > n18. with NNFMP; 03 > > > > > > Nov 2001 > > > > > > > >13:12:05 -0000 > > > > > > > >Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 3 Nov 2001 > > > > > > 13:12:01 -0000 > > > > > > > >Received: (qmail 64892 invoked from network); > > > > 3 > > > > > > Nov 2001 13:12:01 - > > > > > > 0000 > > > > > > > >Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by > > > > > > m3.grp.snv. > > > > > > with QMQP; > > > > > > > >3 Nov 2001 13:12:01 -0000 > > > > > > > >Received: from unknown (HELO > > > > > > n24.) > > > > > > (216.115.96.74) by > > > > > > > >mta3.grp.snv. with SMTP; 3 Nov 2001 > > > > > > 13:12:01 -0000 > > > > > > > >Received: from [10.1.10.66] by > > > > > > n24. with NNFMP; 03 > > > > > > Nov 2001 > > > > > > > >13:12:01 -0000 > > > > > > > >From sentto-1229044-7005-1004793122-lbrahma > > > > Sat, > > > > > > 03 Nov 2001 > > > > > > 05:15:05 -0800 > > > > > > > >X-eGroups-Return: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >sentto-1229044-7005-1004793122-lbrahma=hotmail.com@r... > > > > > > > >X-Sender: partvinu5 > > > > > > > >X-Apparently-vedic astrology > > > > > > > >X-eGroups-Return: partvinu5 > > > > > > > >Message-ID: <9s0qev+fb36@e...> > > > > > > > >User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 > > > > > > > >X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster > > > > > > > >X--Profile: partvinu5 > > > > > > > >Mailing-List: list vedic astrology; > > > > contact > > > > > > > >vedic astrology-owner > > > > > > > >Delivered-mailing list > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > > >Precedence: bulk > > > > > > > >List-Un: > > > > > > <vedic astrology-> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >The subject which i am discussing today has > > > > been > > > > > > discussed already > > > > > > > >many atimes by eminent astrologers and > > > > pundits. > > > > > > > > But i feel there is a lot of research yet > > > > to be > > > > > > done on the role > > > > > > of > > > > > > > >saturn in the realms of mundane astrology. > > > > Saturn > > > > > > is the planet who > > > > > > > >evokes awe and fear by laymen for vvarious > > > > > > reasons. Saturn is a > > > > > > > >planet of separative nergy. He is the planet > > > > of > > > > > > del;ays and > > > > > > > >frustration. > > > > > > > >Saturn is much maligned but one should not > > > > forget > > > > > > that he is a > > > > > > great > > > > > > > >spiritual teacher. He has the great prowess > > > > to > > > > > > unlock the mysteries > > > > > > > >of life's purpose. THose souls who run after > > > > > > materialistic lifes > > > > > > are > > > > > > > >given from time to tiem lessons by saturn > > > > which > > > > > > make them go > > > > > > towards > > > > > > > >a path of renunciation and attainment of > > > > nirvana. > > > > > > > >Saturn placed in differnt houses for > > > > different > > > > > > lagnas gives > > > > > > differnt > > > > > > > >results. > > > > > > > >He is a great benific for the taurus and > > > > libra > > > > > > ascendant natives. > > > > > > His > > > > > > > >placement in kendras and konas gives > > > > tremendous > > > > > > results if it is > > > > > > also > > > > > > > >placed in shubha vargas. > > > > > > > >For simha and kataka lagna natives saturn > > > > gives a > > > > > > lot of trouble > > > > > > due > > > > > > > >to his lordship. Some authors oppine that > > > > saturn > > > > > > in 3rd, 6th and > > > > > > 11th > > > > > > > >house is good and gives good results. But he > > > > > > gives troubles during > > > > > > > >travel, service and dealings due to the same > > > > > > placements. > > > > > > > >Saturn is a planet of rigor and research. He > > > > is > > > > > > the chief karaka > > > > > > for > > > > > > > >bondage, toiling, hardwork, law, farming, > > > > > > engineering, construction > > > > > > > >etc. > > > > > > > >Saturn gives tears and subsequent joy. He if > > > > > > placed in karma sthana > > > > > > > >can mean rise and fall which is unexpected > > > > and > > > > > > swift. > > > > > > > >In 7th he can give a wife who at least looks > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Find a job, post your resume. > > > http://careers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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