Guest guest Posted November 1, 2001 Report Share Posted November 1, 2001 Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya ------------------ Dear Karthik, Nice to see an eager learner. The key to understanding all dasa's is in the calculations. Vimshottari Dasa is based on the progression through the lunar mansions which are overruled by the Manas(Moon). Hence anything predicted from Vimshottari or Other Nakshatra-Dasa's shows how the mind responds/acts during specific times. We can surely predict many events(among which marriage come under), using this Dasa, but keep in mind that this will show the events from a viewpoint different from Rasi-Dasa's. So, "the point of perception", is the focus. Narayana Dasa is based on the Rasi's overruled by the Sun, hence we have the two-fold divisions ruled by the Father and Mother; Sun & Moon respectively. And no, there are no divisions ruled by other grahas. Rasi Dasa's hence show more acurately how the circumstances actually are. And not how they seen to be. Su-Dasa(Sree Lagna Kendradi Dasa/Tara Lagna Dasa/Rasi Dasa) is however an exception as its based on the Sree Lagna, which is calculated from both Nakshatras(Moon) and Rasi's(Sun), and it will hence show the blessings of Lakshmi which interact in our circumstances. The compiling of this Sree-Lagna with the Kendradi Dasa scheme of calculating, shows when these Yogas come into play. I hope this answers your questions, Best wishes, Visti. kartheekv wrote: OM NAMH SIVAYARESPECTED GURUJIS Respected Sarajit SirPRANAAMSIRYou have cleared my doubts. But my question on Narayan dasa has not been answered. Many Astrologers use vimshottari to predict the results. You have said that narayana dasa is more phalit than vimshottari. Vimshottari dasa system explains the psychological drives in a particular period. Your example of examination was good but I could not understand the subtle differences. Can't we predict events like marriage and success through Vimshottari itself. Why then we have to use Narayana dasa system.Yours Humble shishyaKartheek Make a great connection at Personals. http://personals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2001 Report Share Posted November 1, 2001 OM NAMH SIVAYA RESPECTED GURUJIS RESPECTED VISTI LARSEN SIR AND SARAJIT SIR I am humbly indebted to you for your kind explaination. If narayana dasa system is accurate then i would humbly learn the system.But my doubt remains why do different astrologers use Vimshottari instead of Narayana dasa system when Narayana dasa is wonderful as explained by you. Partha sir is angry is suppose. He doesn't like teenagers like me to learn. Yours Humble shishya Kartheek vedic astrology, Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream> wrote: > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya > ------------------ > Dear Karthik, > Nice to see an eager learner. > The key to understanding all dasa's is in the > calculations. > > Vimshottari Dasa is based on the progression through > the lunar mansions which are overruled by the > Manas(Moon). Hence anything predicted from Vimshottari > or Other Nakshatra-Dasa's shows how the mind > responds/acts during specific times. We can surely > predict many events(among which marriage come under), > using this Dasa, but keep in mind that this will show > the events from a viewpoint different from > Rasi-Dasa's. > > So, "the point of perception", is the focus. > > Narayana Dasa is based on the Rasi's overruled by the > Sun, hence we have the two-fold divisions ruled by the > Father and Mother; Sun & Moon respectively. And no, > there are no divisions ruled by other grahas. > > Rasi Dasa's hence show more acurately how the > circumstances actually are. And not how they seen to > be. > > Su-Dasa(Sree Lagna Kendradi Dasa/Tara Lagna Dasa/Rasi > Dasa) is however an exception as its based on the Sree > Lagna, which is calculated from both Nakshatras(Moon) > and Rasi's(Sun), and it will hence show the blessings > of Lakshmi which interact in our circumstances. > > The compiling of this Sree-Lagna with the Kendradi > Dasa scheme of calculating, shows when these Yogas > come into play. > > I hope this answers your questions, > Best wishes, Visti. > > > kartheekv wrote: OM NAMH SIVAYARESPECTED > GURUJIS Respected Sarajit SirPRANAAMSIRYou have > cleared my doubts. But my question on Narayan dasa has > not been answered. Many Astrologers use vimshottari to > predict the results. You have said that narayana dasa > is more phalit than vimshottari. Vimshottari dasa > system explains the psychological drives in a > particular period. Your example of examination was > good but I could not understand the subtle > differences. Can't we predict events like marriage and > success through Vimshottari itself. Why then we have > to use Narayana dasa system.Yours Humble shishyaKartheek > > > > Make a great connection at Personals. > http://personals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2001 Report Share Posted November 1, 2001 dear kartheek i am sorry if i had hurt you.I just thought you got psyched because of my aggressiveness. well keep learning. any way at the rate you are going and there are many good teachers in this group , you will learn fast. regards partha --- kartheekv wrote: > OM NAMH SIVAYA > RESPECTED GURUJIS > RESPECTED VISTI LARSEN SIR AND SARAJIT SIR > I am humbly indebted to you for your kind > explaination. If narayana > dasa system is accurate then i would humbly learn > the system.But my > doubt remains why do different astrologers use > Vimshottari instead of > Narayana dasa system when Narayana dasa is wonderful > as explained by > you. Partha sir is angry is suppose. He doesn't like > teenagers like > me to learn. > Yours Humble shishya > Kartheek > > vedic astrology, Visti Larsen > <in_joy_i_scream> > wrote: > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya > > > ------------------ > > Dear Karthik, > > Nice to see an eager learner. > > The key to understanding all dasa's is in the > > calculations. > > > > Vimshottari Dasa is based on the progression > through > > the lunar mansions which are overruled by the > > Manas(Moon). Hence anything predicted from > Vimshottari > > or Other Nakshatra-Dasa's shows how the mind > > responds/acts during specific times. We can surely > > predict many events(among which marriage come > under), > > using this Dasa, but keep in mind that this will > show > > the events from a viewpoint different from > > Rasi-Dasa's. > > > > So, "the point of perception", is the focus. > > > > Narayana Dasa is based on the Rasi's overruled by > the > > Sun, hence we have the two-fold divisions ruled by > the > > Father and Mother; Sun & Moon respectively. And > no, > > there are no divisions ruled by other grahas. > > > > Rasi Dasa's hence show more acurately how the > > circumstances actually are. And not how they seen > to > > be. > > > > Su-Dasa(Sree Lagna Kendradi Dasa/Tara Lagna > Dasa/Rasi > > Dasa) is however an exception as its based on the > Sree > > Lagna, which is calculated from both > Nakshatras(Moon) > > and Rasi's(Sun), and it will hence show the > blessings > > of Lakshmi which interact in our circumstances. > > > > The compiling of this Sree-Lagna with the Kendradi > > Dasa scheme of calculating, shows when these Yogas > > come into play. > > > > I hope this answers your questions, > > Best wishes, Visti. > > > > > > kartheekv wrote: OM NAMH SIVAYARESPECTED > > GURUJIS Respected Sarajit SirPRANAAMSIRYou have > > cleared my doubts. But my question on Narayan dasa > has > > not been answered. Many Astrologers use > vimshottari to > > predict the results. You have said that narayana > dasa > > is more phalit than vimshottari. Vimshottari dasa > > system explains the psychological drives in a > > particular period. Your example of examination was > > good but I could not understand the subtle > > differences. Can't we predict events like marriage > and > > success through Vimshottari itself. Why then we > have > > to use Narayana dasa system.Yours Humble > shishyaKartheek > > > > > > > > Make a great connection at Personals. > > http://personals. > > Make a great connection at Personals. http://personals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2001 Report Share Posted November 1, 2001 Dear Kartheek and list members, Visti and Sarajit gave you the technical stuff. Allow me to add a very important issue here: To master the Vimshottari Dasa technique takes time. The astrologers that I met personally, or know about have used it for a long time with various ayanamsas and 'tricks', getting all kind of results - never been able to verify them against another dasa results by not using any other system. I am sure that we all feel more comfortable when the results of our judgment can be checked and confirmed by more than one source. Makes us feel confident and safe. I started with Vedic astrology in 1995 and first when Narasimha brought out Narayana Dasa explanations (if I recall correctly that was on one of the other list back in 1997) that I got interested AS A CHALLENGE. It is first after reading Sanjay Rath and Narasimha's books that I am starting to implement it in practice - still very cautiously though - checking the rules very often .... As OLD HABITS DIE HARD, NEW ONES DON'T COME EASY EITHER!. In other words it's up to you to test a system based on other learned people's recommendations and than judge the results as to your best ability. Every study will enrich your knowledge bank positively. Hopefully you will find Narayana Dasa as appealing as it does to me - as I'm sure to many others on this list as well. Kind regards Jay Weiss - <kartheekv <vedic astrology> Thursday, November 01, 2001 1:44 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Narayana Vs Vimshottari > OM NAMH SIVAYA > RESPECTED GURUJIS > RESPECTED VISTI LARSEN SIR AND SARAJIT SIR > I am humbly indebted to you for your kind explaination. If narayana > dasa system is accurate then i would humbly learn the system.But my > doubt remains why do different astrologers use Vimshottari instead of > Narayana dasa system when Narayana dasa is wonderful as explained by > you. Partha sir is angry is suppose. He doesn't like teenagers like > me to learn. > Yours Humble shishya > Kartheek > > vedic astrology, Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream> > wrote: > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya > > ------------------ > > Dear Karthik, > > Nice to see an eager learner. > > The key to understanding all dasa's is in the > > calculations. > > > > Vimshottari Dasa is based on the progression through > > the lunar mansions which are overruled by the > > Manas(Moon). Hence anything predicted from Vimshottari > > or Other Nakshatra-Dasa's shows how the mind > > responds/acts during specific times. We can surely > > predict many events(among which marriage come under), > > using this Dasa, but keep in mind that this will show > > the events from a viewpoint different from > > Rasi-Dasa's. > > > > So, "the point of perception", is the focus. > > > > Narayana Dasa is based on the Rasi's overruled by the > > Sun, hence we have the two-fold divisions ruled by the > > Father and Mother; Sun & Moon respectively. And no, > > there are no divisions ruled by other grahas. > > > > Rasi Dasa's hence show more acurately how the > > circumstances actually are. And not how they seen to > > be. > > > > Su-Dasa(Sree Lagna Kendradi Dasa/Tara Lagna Dasa/Rasi > > Dasa) is however an exception as its based on the Sree > > Lagna, which is calculated from both Nakshatras(Moon) > > and Rasi's(Sun), and it will hence show the blessings > > of Lakshmi which interact in our circumstances. > > > > The compiling of this Sree-Lagna with the Kendradi > > Dasa scheme of calculating, shows when these Yogas > > come into play. > > > > I hope this answers your questions, > > Best wishes, Visti. > > > > > > kartheekv wrote: OM NAMH SIVAYARESPECTED > > GURUJIS Respected Sarajit SirPRANAAMSIRYou have > > cleared my doubts. But my question on Narayan dasa has > > not been answered. Many Astrologers use vimshottari to > > predict the results. You have said that narayana dasa > > is more phalit than vimshottari. Vimshottari dasa > > system explains the psychological drives in a > > particular period. Your example of examination was > > good but I could not understand the subtle > > differences. Can't we predict events like marriage and > > success through Vimshottari itself. Why then we have > > to use Narayana dasa system.Yours Humble shishyaKartheek > > > > > > > > Make a great connection at Personals. > > http://personals. > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2001 Report Share Posted November 1, 2001 Dear Kartheek, Here are my 2 cents, Narayana dasa is accurate. If I were you, I would get Pt. Sanjay Raths new book on Narayana dasa. You also can go through the archives and get a wealth of information about Narayana dasa, Vimshottari dasa, Kalachakra dasa etc and their differences as pointed out by Sarajit and Visti. Do not worry about anyone else on what they think. As Visti pointed out, the key to Vimsottari dasa is in finding out its initiating point. There are variations of Vimsottari dasa and their commencements. Go to http://www.sjvc.org and read Gurujis article there. It will clear up your doubts. Thanking you for your patience, Cheers !!! Ash vedic astrology, kartheekv wrote: > OM NAMH SIVAYA > RESPECTED GURUJIS > RESPECTED VISTI LARSEN SIR AND SARAJIT SIR > I am humbly indebted to you for your kind explaination. If narayana > dasa system is accurate then i would humbly learn the system.But my > doubt remains why do different astrologers use Vimshottari instead of > Narayana dasa system when Narayana dasa is wonderful as explained by > you. Partha sir is angry is suppose. He doesn't like teenagers like > me to learn. > Yours Humble shishya > Kartheek > > vedic astrology, Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream> > wrote: > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya > > ------------------ > > Dear Karthik, > > Nice to see an eager learner. > > The key to understanding all dasa's is in the > > calculations. > > > > Vimshottari Dasa is based on the progression through > > the lunar mansions which are overruled by the > > Manas(Moon). Hence anything predicted from Vimshottari > > or Other Nakshatra-Dasa's shows how the mind > > responds/acts during specific times. We can surely > > predict many events(among which marriage come under), > > using this Dasa, but keep in mind that this will show > > the events from a viewpoint different from > > Rasi-Dasa's. > > > > So, "the point of perception", is the focus. > > > > Narayana Dasa is based on the Rasi's overruled by the > > Sun, hence we have the two-fold divisions ruled by the > > Father and Mother; Sun & Moon respectively. And no, > > there are no divisions ruled by other grahas. > > > > Rasi Dasa's hence show more acurately how the > > circumstances actually are. And not how they seen to > > be. > > > > Su-Dasa(Sree Lagna Kendradi Dasa/Tara Lagna Dasa/Rasi > > Dasa) is however an exception as its based on the Sree > > Lagna, which is calculated from both Nakshatras(Moon) > > and Rasi's(Sun), and it will hence show the blessings > > of Lakshmi which interact in our circumstances. > > > > The compiling of this Sree-Lagna with the Kendradi > > Dasa scheme of calculating, shows when these Yogas > > come into play. > > > > I hope this answers your questions, > > Best wishes, Visti. > > > > > > kartheekv wrote: OM NAMH SIVAYARESPECTED > > GURUJIS Respected Sarajit SirPRANAAMSIRYou have > > cleared my doubts. But my question on Narayan dasa has > > not been answered. Many Astrologers use vimshottari to > > predict the results. You have said that narayana dasa > > is more phalit than vimshottari. Vimshottari dasa > > system explains the psychological drives in a > > particular period. Your example of examination was > > good but I could not understand the subtle > > differences. Can't we predict events like marriage and > > success through Vimshottari itself. Why then we have > > to use Narayana dasa system.Yours Humble shishyaKartheek > > > > > > > > Make a great connection at Personals. > > http://personals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2001 Report Share Posted November 1, 2001 Dear kartheek, Welcome to the group. We all learn here by mutual respect. Age does not matter. Dont let other people;s ego get to you. thier wanting or not wanting you to learn does not matter at all.. We all know the story of Arjuna seeing only the eye of the bird and nothing else...Let;s all try to be that! Regards KAtti NArahari vedic astrology, kartheekv wrote: > OM NAMH SIVAYA > RESPECTED GURUJIS > RESPECTED VISTI LARSEN SIR AND SARAJIT SIR > I am humbly indebted to you for your kind explaination. If narayana > dasa system is accurate then i would humbly learn the system.But my > doubt remains why do different astrologers use Vimshottari instead of > Narayana dasa system when Narayana dasa is wonderful as explained by > you. Partha sir is angry is suppose. He doesn't like teenagers like > me to learn. > Yours Humble shishya > Kartheek > > vedic astrology, Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream> > wrote: > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya > > ------------------ > > Dear Karthik, > > Nice to see an eager learner. > > The key to understanding all dasa's is in the > > calculations. > > > > Vimshottari Dasa is based on the progression through > > the lunar mansions which are overruled by the > > Manas(Moon). Hence anything predicted from Vimshottari > > or Other Nakshatra-Dasa's shows how the mind > > responds/acts during specific times. We can surely > > predict many events(among which marriage come under), > > using this Dasa, but keep in mind that this will show > > the events from a viewpoint different from > > Rasi-Dasa's. > > > > So, "the point of perception", is the focus. > > > > Narayana Dasa is based on the Rasi's overruled by the > > Sun, hence we have the two-fold divisions ruled by the > > Father and Mother; Sun & Moon respectively. And no, > > there are no divisions ruled by other grahas. > > > > Rasi Dasa's hence show more acurately how the > > circumstances actually are. And not how they seen to > > be. > > > > Su-Dasa(Sree Lagna Kendradi Dasa/Tara Lagna Dasa/Rasi > > Dasa) is however an exception as its based on the Sree > > Lagna, which is calculated from both Nakshatras(Moon) > > and Rasi's(Sun), and it will hence show the blessings > > of Lakshmi which interact in our circumstances. > > > > The compiling of this Sree-Lagna with the Kendradi > > Dasa scheme of calculating, shows when these Yogas > > come into play. > > > > I hope this answers your questions, > > Best wishes, Visti. > > > > > > kartheekv wrote: OM NAMH SIVAYARESPECTED > > GURUJIS Respected Sarajit SirPRANAAMSIRYou have > > cleared my doubts. But my question on Narayan dasa has > > not been answered. Many Astrologers use vimshottari to > > predict the results. You have said that narayana dasa > > is more phalit than vimshottari. Vimshottari dasa > > system explains the psychological drives in a > > particular period. Your example of examination was > > good but I could not understand the subtle > > differences. Can't we predict events like marriage and > > success through Vimshottari itself. Why then we have > > to use Narayana dasa system.Yours Humble shishyaKartheek > > > > > > > > Make a great connection at Personals. > > http://personals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2001 Report Share Posted November 1, 2001 Dear Visti, I can follow this if Vimshottri is started from the moon. However, if the lagna is stronger and Vimshottri is started from Lagna instead how can we then say that it reflects the state of mind and not actual circumstances. In this context, I must also ask, what is the inherent difference between charts where the moon is stronger or the lagna is stronger? Recently, I have been experimenting Lagna based Vimshottri, as I could not explain my overwhelming need to paint at the moment, to the extent of staying up all night sometimes. I have been painting all my life on and off, but at the moment it is in my head all the time. When I use Lagna based Vimshottri (lagna vargottama, lagna lord in lagna and with high pancha vargeeya bala) it all makes sense as I started the maha dasa of venus at the beginning of this year. Another interesting thing is that venus rules my 12th and is in the 12th in navamsa, and I have been working overseas during this year as well, away from home. Going backwards, I was running Ketu maha dasa before that, during which I became very much more involved with astrology and also Ganesh. It was also during Ketu Saturn that I had a serious operation - Ketu is in the 2nd and saturn rules the 8th. In 1999 saturn was in the 11th aspecting the ascendant and ketu was in the 8th aspecting the 2nd. Fits in rather well, especially as I had been warned at the beginning of the year about a sarpa dosha problem in 9 months time, based on prashna. Best Regards, Nimmi Ragavan - "Visti Larsen" <in_joy_i_scream <vedic astrology> Thursday, November 01, 2001 12:33 PM [vedic astrology] Narayana Vs Vimshottari > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya > ------------------ > Dear Karthik, > Nice to see an eager learner. > The key to understanding all dasa's is in the > calculations. > > Vimshottari Dasa is based on the progression through > the lunar mansions which are overruled by the > Manas(Moon). Hence anything predicted from Vimshottari > or Other Nakshatra-Dasa's shows how the mind > responds/acts during specific times. We can surely > predict many events(among which marriage come under), > using this Dasa, but keep in mind that this will show > the events from a viewpoint different from > Rasi-Dasa's. > > So, "the point of perception", is the focus. > > Narayana Dasa is based on the Rasi's overruled by the > Sun, hence we have the two-fold divisions ruled by the > Father and Mother; Sun & Moon respectively. And no, > there are no divisions ruled by other grahas. > > Rasi Dasa's hence show more acurately how the > circumstances actually are. And not how they seen to > be. > > Su-Dasa(Sree Lagna Kendradi Dasa/Tara Lagna Dasa/Rasi > Dasa) is however an exception as its based on the Sree > Lagna, which is calculated from both Nakshatras(Moon) > and Rasi's(Sun), and it will hence show the blessings > of Lakshmi which interact in our circumstances. > > The compiling of this Sree-Lagna with the Kendradi > Dasa scheme of calculating, shows when these Yogas > come into play. > > I hope this answers your questions, > Best wishes, Visti. > > > kartheekv wrote: OM NAMH SIVAYARESPECTED > GURUJIS Respected Sarajit SirPRANAAMSIRYou have > cleared my doubts. But my question on Narayan dasa has > not been answered. Many Astrologers use vimshottari to > predict the results. You have said that narayana dasa > is more phalit than vimshottari. Vimshottari dasa > system explains the psychological drives in a > particular period. Your example of examination was > good but I could not understand the subtle > differences. Can't we predict events like marriage and > success through Vimshottari itself. Why then we have > to use Narayana dasa system.Yours Humble shishyaKartheek > > > > Make a great connection at Personals. > http://personals. > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2001 Report Share Posted November 1, 2001 Om Namo Narayanaya! ------------- Dear Nimmi, I'm answering step by step to avoid fluctuating answers, which can lead us away from the question. > I can follow this if Vimshottri is started from the > moon. However, if the > lagna is stronger and Vimshottri is started from > Lagna instead how can we > then say that it reflects the state of mind and not > actual circumstances. We are still using the Nakshetras for this calculation aren't we? Just because Brain(lagna) responds to the events, it doesn't make the actual circumstances more real. > In > this context, I must also ask, what is the inherent > difference between > charts where the moon is stronger or the lagna is > stronger? I almost answered it above. Some people respond more instinctively towards events, like the moon with her emotional behaviour. Whilst others respond to them from events actual manifestations. Hence the latter calculated from Lagna would be perfect for timing educational activities. Hope this helps. Best wishes, Visti. --- Nimmi Ragavan <106350.3660 wrote: > Dear Visti, > > I can follow this if Vimshottri is started from the > moon. However, if the > lagna is stronger and Vimshottri is started from > Lagna instead how can we > then say that it reflects the state of mind and not > actual circumstances. In > this context, I must also ask, what is the inherent > difference between > charts where the moon is stronger or the lagna is > stronger? > > Recently, I have been experimenting Lagna based > Vimshottri, as I could not > explain my overwhelming need to paint at the moment, > to the extent of > staying up all night sometimes. I have been painting > all my life on and off, > but at the moment it is in my head all the time. > When I use Lagna based > Vimshottri (lagna vargottama, lagna lord in lagna > and with high pancha > vargeeya bala) it all makes sense as I started the > maha dasa of venus at the > beginning of this year. Another interesting thing is > that venus rules my > 12th and is in the 12th in navamsa, and I have been > working overseas during > this year as well, away from home. > > Going backwards, I was running Ketu maha dasa before > that, during which I > became very much more involved with astrology and > also Ganesh. It was also > during Ketu Saturn that I had a serious operation - > Ketu is in the 2nd and > saturn rules the 8th. In 1999 saturn was in the 11th > aspecting the ascendant > and ketu was in the 8th aspecting the 2nd. Fits in > rather well, especially > as I had been warned at the beginning of the year > about a sarpa dosha > problem in 9 months time, based on prashna. > > Best Regards, > > Nimmi Ragavan > > - > "Visti Larsen" <in_joy_i_scream > <vedic astrology> > Thursday, November 01, 2001 12:33 PM > [vedic astrology] Narayana Vs Vimshottari > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya > > > ------------------ > > Dear Karthik, > > Nice to see an eager learner. > > The key to understanding all dasa's is in the > > calculations. > > > > Vimshottari Dasa is based on the progression > through > > the lunar mansions which are overruled by the > > Manas(Moon). Hence anything predicted from > Vimshottari > > or Other Nakshatra-Dasa's shows how the mind > > responds/acts during specific times. We can surely > > predict many events(among which marriage come > under), > > using this Dasa, but keep in mind that this will > show > > the events from a viewpoint different from > > Rasi-Dasa's. > > > > So, "the point of perception", is the focus. > > > > Narayana Dasa is based on the Rasi's overruled by > the > > Sun, hence we have the two-fold divisions ruled by > the > > Father and Mother; Sun & Moon respectively. And > no, > > there are no divisions ruled by other grahas. > > > > Rasi Dasa's hence show more acurately how the > > circumstances actually are. And not how they seen > to > > be. > > > > Su-Dasa(Sree Lagna Kendradi Dasa/Tara Lagna > Dasa/Rasi > > Dasa) is however an exception as its based on the > Sree > > Lagna, which is calculated from both > Nakshatras(Moon) > > and Rasi's(Sun), and it will hence show the > blessings > > of Lakshmi which interact in our circumstances. > > > > The compiling of this Sree-Lagna with the Kendradi > > Dasa scheme of calculating, shows when these Yogas > > come into play. > > > > I hope this answers your questions, > > Best wishes, Visti. > > > > > > kartheekv wrote: OM NAMH SIVAYARESPECTED > > GURUJIS Respected Sarajit SirPRANAAMSIRYou have > > cleared my doubts. But my question on Narayan dasa > has > > not been answered. Many Astrologers use > vimshottari to > > predict the results. You have said that narayana > dasa > > is more phalit than vimshottari. Vimshottari dasa > > system explains the psychological drives in a > > particular period. Your example of examination was > > good but I could not understand the subtle > > differences. Can't we predict events like marriage > and > > success through Vimshottari itself. Why then we > have > > to use Narayana dasa system.Yours Humble > shishyaKartheek > > > > > > > > Make a great connection at Personals. > > http://personals. > > > > Archives: > vedic astrology > > > > Group info: > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > vedic astrology- > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > Make a great connection at Personals. http://personals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2001 Report Share Posted November 1, 2001 Dear Nimmi, Though Vimsottari dasa may be started from Moon or lagna (or a host of other things like Mandi, Trisphuta etc), it is nevertheless based on nakshatras and nakshatra division of the zodiac is ruled by signs. Narayana dasa is based on rasis and rasi division of the zodiac is ruled by Sun. That is the key difference. OTOH, Kalachakra dasa is based on the navamsa division of the zodiac. > Recently, I have been experimenting Lagna based Vimshottri, as I could not > explain my overwhelming need to paint at the moment, to the extent of > staying up all night sometimes. I have been painting all my life on and off, > but at the moment it is in my head all the time. Lagnamsaka dasa (variation of Narayana dasa) shows how abilities, dharma and internal inclinations manifest physically. Take the sign containing your navamsa lagna, take it as lagna in rasi chart and find Narayana dasa of rasi chart from it. That is called Lagnamsaka dasa. See what dasa you are running right now. Does it have an argala from Moon or Venus from a watery sign? Influence of Moon, Venus and watery signs on Lagnamsaka dasa sign may make one engage in creative and artistic activities. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2001 Report Share Posted November 2, 2001 Dear Narasimha, >From mid June 1999, I have been running Pisces Narayana Dasa. This does have argala from venus and moon, but not from watery signs. Also the painting has been a very recent phenomenon, starting in August really. On the other hand, Vimshottri from ascendant seems to be spot on re the timing. Nimmi - <pvr <vedic astrology> Thursday, November 01, 2001 5:57 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Narayana Vs Vimshottari > > Dear Nimmi, > > Though Vimsottari dasa may be started from Moon or lagna (or a host > of other things like Mandi, Trisphuta etc), it is nevertheless based > on nakshatras and nakshatra division of the zodiac is ruled by signs. > Narayana dasa is based on rasis and rasi division of the zodiac is > ruled by Sun. That is the key difference. OTOH, Kalachakra dasa is > based on the navamsa division of the zodiac. > > > Recently, I have been experimenting Lagna based Vimshottri, as I > could not > > explain my overwhelming need to paint at the moment, to the extent > of > > staying up all night sometimes. I have been painting all my life on > and off, > > but at the moment it is in my head all the time. > > Lagnamsaka dasa (variation of Narayana dasa) shows how abilities, > dharma and internal inclinations manifest physically. Take the sign > containing your navamsa lagna, take it as lagna in rasi chart and > find Narayana dasa of rasi chart from it. That is called Lagnamsaka > dasa. See what dasa you are running right now. > > Does it have an argala from Moon or Venus from a watery sign? > Influence of Moon, Venus and watery signs on Lagnamsaka dasa sign may > make one engage in creative and artistic activities. > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > Narasimha > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2001 Report Share Posted November 2, 2001 Dear Karthik, The doubts you are raising are legitimate. Please don't get discouraged to come up with questions. I beleive this can be good exercise for expert and good learning for person like me. Every body is student. May be degree and perception differs. I really envy about your progress. Please keep it up. In BHPS more stress has been given to Vismottari dasa system. But how ever as far as my knowledge is concerned, even great Parasara didn't recommand any single dasa as BEST. Since Vismottari found to be based on Chandra's position in the horoscope and its versatality and easy computation it might have attained popularity. You may be aware that, Our Kind Param Guruji, Sri SRath is really an impetus behind now gaining popularity of Narayana Dasa. It may be a begining, when your son grows up, he might ask question, Dad why people are giving much importance to Narayana Dasa only among a lot of other dasa system! Dear Kartheek, do you know, in Nadi system of astrology, some experts says, they don't follow any Dasa system at all. How ever I am too little knowlegded person to confirm it. Please maintain your apetite for the knowledge. Tommorrow certainly you will be in a better position to tell all why Vismottari dasa is now populer in India. All the best. Mohan Hegde. - kartheekv vedic astrology Thursday, November 01, 2001 6:14 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Narayana Vs Vimshottari OM NAMH SIVAYARESPECTED GURUJISRESPECTED VISTI LARSEN SIR AND SARAJIT SIRI am humbly indebted to you for your kind explaination. If narayana dasa system is accurate then i would humbly learn the system.But my doubt remains why do different astrologers use Vimshottari instead of Narayana dasa system when Narayana dasa is wonderful as explained by you. Partha sir is angry is suppose. He doesn't like teenagers like me to learn.Yours Humble shishyaKartheek--- In vedic astrology, Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream> wrote:> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya> ------------------> Dear Karthik,> Nice to see an eager learner.> The key to understanding all dasa's is in the> calculations. > > Vimshottari Dasa is based on the progression through> the lunar mansions which are overruled by the> Manas(Moon). Hence anything predicted from Vimshottari> or Other Nakshatra-Dasa's shows how the mind> responds/acts during specific times. We can surely> predict many events(among which marriage come under),> using this Dasa, but keep in mind that this will show> the events from a viewpoint different from> Rasi-Dasa's.> > So, "the point of perception", is the focus.> > Narayana Dasa is based on the Rasi's overruled by the> Sun, hence we have the two-fold divisions ruled by the> Father and Mother; Sun & Moon respectively. And no,> there are no divisions ruled by other grahas.> > Rasi Dasa's hence show more acurately how the> circumstances actually are. And not how they seen to> be.> > Su-Dasa(Sree Lagna Kendradi Dasa/Tara Lagna Dasa/Rasi> Dasa) is however an exception as its based on the Sree> Lagna, which is calculated from both Nakshatras(Moon)> and Rasi's(Sun), and it will hence show the blessings> of Lakshmi which interact in our circumstances. > > The compiling of this Sree-Lagna with the Kendradi> Dasa scheme of calculating, shows when these Yogas> come into play.> > I hope this answers your questions,> Best wishes, Visti.> > > kartheekv wrote: OM NAMH SIVAYARESPECTED> GURUJIS Respected Sarajit SirPRANAAMSIRYou have> cleared my doubts. But my question on Narayan dasa has> not been answered. Many Astrologers use vimshottari to> predict the results. You have said that narayana dasa> is more phalit than vimshottari. Vimshottari dasa> system explains the psychological drives in a> particular period. Your example of examination was> good but I could not understand the subtle> differences. Can't we predict events like marriage and> success through Vimshottari itself. Why then we have> to use Narayana dasa system.Yours Humble shishyaKartheek> > > > Make a great connection at Personals.> http://personals.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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