Guest guest Posted October 30, 2001 Report Share Posted October 30, 2001 dear balaji hitler was born in thula lagna with four planets in 7th house. 3 planets namely jupiter , moon, rahu were in 3rd house. saturn is in 10th house saving him from kalasarpa dosha. he didn't have ruchaka yoga. he became very famous due to gajakesari yoga. coupled with the fact that jupiter is with rahu gave him notorious image. sun, mercury, mars and venus in 7th gave him psychological illness. regards partha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2001 Report Share Posted October 31, 2001 Dear Partha, Hitler according to B.V.Raman has Ruchaka yoga. Even assuming you are right, Raja yoga didn't help him. His free will was bad and he selected the destiny that was violent. Mars should be in 7th which is Aries and this is an example of Ruchaka yoga. You can say there is Graha yuddha but still there is this yoga. He liked war, didn't he. He was cruel and he took the negative trait of Mars. Guru is afflicted by Rahu and so is moon. Aries has fiery grahas like Sun and Mars. I have seen such combinations give mental disorders in some cases. In every chart, there can be shades of destruction. Free will has to be exercised to avoid and minimize these traits. This is where 'Jitendriya' is the objective. I am not one who can claim this. Great people like Hanuman, Mahaveera and other saints are to have had this title. Even 8 Siddhi's can't help to control the mind. That is why they are not cared for by the true spiritual aspirants. warm regards, Balaji S. --- partvinu5 wrote: > dear balaji > hitler was born in thula lagna with four planets in > 7th house. > 3 planets namely jupiter , moon, rahu were in 3rd > house. saturn is in > 10th house saving him from kalasarpa dosha. he > didn't have ruchaka > yoga. he became very famous due to gajakesari yoga. > coupled with the > fact that jupiter is with rahu gave him notorious > image. sun, > mercury, mars and venus in 7th gave him > psychological illness. > regards > partha > > > Make a great connection at Personals. http://personals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2001 Report Share Posted October 31, 2001 dear balaji i am not here for an academic debate. ruchaka yoga is formed when mars is in kendra from moon and is either exalted or in own house. now mars is in 5th from moon isn't it. that doesnot qualify hitler to have ruchaka yoga. as you must be knowing ruchaka yoga is one of the five pancha mahapurusha yogas. namely 1)sasa(saturn 2)hamsa(jupiter 3)malavya(venus 4)ruchaka(mars 5)bhadra(mercury please verify. I am an ardent follower of Sri B.V.Raman. he never mentioned what you had said. regards partha vedic astrology, balaji srinivasan <sri_balaji> wrote: > Dear Partha, > > Hitler according to B.V.Raman has Ruchaka yoga. > Even assuming you are right, Raja yoga didn't help > him. > His free will was bad and he selected the destiny that > was violent. > > Mars should be in 7th which is Aries and this is an > example of Ruchaka yoga. You can say there is Graha > yuddha but still there is this yoga. He liked war, > didn't he. He was cruel and he took the negative trait > of Mars. > Guru is afflicted by Rahu and so is moon. Aries has > fiery grahas like Sun and Mars. I have seen such > combinations give mental disorders in some cases. > > > > In every chart, there can be shades of destruction. > Free will has to be exercised to avoid and minimize > these traits. > > This is where 'Jitendriya' is the objective. I am not > one who can claim this. Great people like Hanuman, > Mahaveera and other saints are to have had this title. > > Even 8 Siddhi's can't help to control the mind. That > is why they are not cared for by the true spiritual > aspirants. > > > warm regards, > Balaji S. > > > > --- partvinu5 wrote: > > dear balaji > > hitler was born in thula lagna with four planets in > > 7th house. > > 3 planets namely jupiter , moon, rahu were in 3rd > > house. saturn is in > > 10th house saving him from kalasarpa dosha. he > > didn't have ruchaka > > yoga. he became very famous due to gajakesari yoga. > > coupled with the > > fact that jupiter is with rahu gave him notorious > > image. sun, > > mercury, mars and venus in 7th gave him > > psychological illness. > > regards > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > Make a great connection at Personals. > http://personals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2001 Report Share Posted October 31, 2001 vedic astrology, balaji srinivasan <sri_balaji> wrote: > Dear Partha, > > Hitler according to B.V.Raman has Ruchaka yoga. > Even assuming you are right, Raja yoga didn't help > him. > His free will was bad and he selected the destiny that > was violent. > > Mars should be in 7th which is Aries and this is an > example of Ruchaka yoga. You can say there is Graha > yuddha but still there is this yoga. He liked war, > didn't he. He was cruel and he took the negative trait > of Mars. > Guru is afflicted by Rahu and so is moon. Aries has > fiery grahas like Sun and Mars. I have seen such > combinations give mental disorders in some cases. > > > > In every chart, there can be shades of destruction. > Free will has to be exercised to avoid and minimize > these traits. > > This is where 'Jitendriya' is the objective. I am not > one who can claim this. Great people like Hanuman, > Mahaveera and other saints are to have had this title. > > Even 8 Siddhi's can't help to control the mind. That > is why they are not cared for by the true spiritual > aspirants. > > > warm regards, > Balaji S. > > > > --- partvinu5 wrote: > > dear balaji > > hitler was born in thula lagna with four planets in > > 7th house. > > 3 planets namely jupiter , moon, rahu were in 3rd > > house. saturn is in > > 10th house saving him from kalasarpa dosha. he > > didn't have ruchaka > > yoga. he became very famous due to gajakesari yoga. > > coupled with the > > fact that jupiter is with rahu gave him notorious > > image. sun, > > mercury, mars and venus in 7th gave him > > psychological illness. > > regards > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > Make a great connection at Personals. > http://personals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2001 Report Share Posted October 31, 2001 Dear Partha, Please do refer again... Pancha-Mahapurusha yoga are seen from LAGNA ONLY. Check this with standard texts and ALSO Gurudev Sanjay;s teachings. This will help you clear your mis-understanding. Thanks Katti Narahari vedic astrology, partvinu5 wrote: > > dear balaji > i am not here for an academic debate. ruchaka yoga is formed when > mars is in kendra from moon and is either exalted or in own house. > now mars is in 5th from moon isn't it. that doesnot qualify hitler to > have ruchaka yoga. as you must be knowing ruchaka yoga is one of the > five pancha mahapurusha yogas. > namely > 1)sasa(saturn > 2)hamsa(jupiter > 3)malavya(venus > 4)ruchaka(mars > 5)bhadra(mercury > please verify. I am an ardent follower of Sri B.V.Raman. he never > mentioned what you had said. > regards > partha > > vedic astrology, balaji srinivasan <sri_balaji> > wrote: > > Dear Partha, > > > > Hitler according to B.V.Raman has Ruchaka yoga. > > Even assuming you are right, Raja yoga didn't help > > him. > > His free will was bad and he selected the destiny that > > was violent. > > > > Mars should be in 7th which is Aries and this is an > > example of Ruchaka yoga. You can say there is Graha > > yuddha but still there is this yoga. He liked war, > > didn't he. He was cruel and he took the negative trait > > of Mars. > > Guru is afflicted by Rahu and so is moon. Aries has > > fiery grahas like Sun and Mars. I have seen such > > combinations give mental disorders in some cases. > > > > > > > > In every chart, there can be shades of destruction. > > Free will has to be exercised to avoid and minimize > > these traits. > > > > This is where 'Jitendriya' is the objective. I am not > > one who can claim this. Great people like Hanuman, > > Mahaveera and other saints are to have had this title. > > > > Even 8 Siddhi's can't help to control the mind. That > > is why they are not cared for by the true spiritual > > aspirants. > > > > > > warm regards, > > Balaji S. > > > > > > > > --- partvinu5 wrote: > > > dear balaji > > > hitler was born in thula lagna with four planets in > > > 7th house. > > > 3 planets namely jupiter , moon, rahu were in 3rd > > > house. saturn is in > > > 10th house saving him from kalasarpa dosha. he > > > didn't have ruchaka > > > yoga. he became very famous due to gajakesari yoga. > > > coupled with the > > > fact that jupiter is with rahu gave him notorious > > > image. sun, > > > mercury, mars and venus in 7th gave him > > > psychological illness. > > > regards > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Make a great connection at Personals. > > http://personals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2001 Report Share Posted October 31, 2001 Dear Partha, True, From Moon also we can look for Yogas. But Panchamahapurusha yogas are also taken from Lagna. Check the following site: http://astrologydirah.hypermart.net/yoga's.htm The Site even mentions Trikona positions and I am not knowing if that was appropriate. I think B.V.Raman mentioned about Hitler's Ruchaka yoga in his book on famous 'horoscopes'. Please note that I am not debating here. It is essential in the spirit of Jyotish to get these clarified. I can be wrong and I am not denying that. After all, I didn't go through the source of these yogas as I read only translations. Look at the main point - Raja yogas can't mean all goodness. It is important to have correct freewill. warm regards, Balaji S. --- partvinu5 wrote: > > dear balaji > i am not here for an academic debate. ruchaka yoga > is formed when > mars is in kendra from moon and is either exalted or > in own house. > now mars is in 5th from moon isn't it. that doesnot > qualify hitler to > have ruchaka yoga. as you must be knowing ruchaka > yoga is one of the > five pancha mahapurusha yogas. > namely > 1)sasa(saturn > 2)hamsa(jupiter > 3)malavya(venus > 4)ruchaka(mars > 5)bhadra(mercury > please verify. I am an ardent follower of Sri > B.V.Raman. he never > mentioned what you had said. > regards > partha > > vedic astrology, balaji srinivasan > <sri_balaji> > wrote: > > Dear Partha, > > > > Hitler according to B.V.Raman has Ruchaka yoga. > > Even assuming you are right, Raja yoga didn't help > > him. > > His free will was bad and he selected the destiny > that > > was violent. > > > > Mars should be in 7th which is Aries and this is > an > > example of Ruchaka yoga. You can say there is > Graha > > yuddha but still there is this yoga. He liked war, > > didn't he. He was cruel and he took the negative > trait > > of Mars. > > Guru is afflicted by Rahu and so is moon. Aries > has > > fiery grahas like Sun and Mars. I have seen such > > combinations give mental disorders in some cases. > > > > > > > > In every chart, there can be shades of > destruction. > > Free will has to be exercised to avoid and > minimize > > these traits. > > > > This is where 'Jitendriya' is the objective. I am > not > > one who can claim this. Great people like Hanuman, > > Mahaveera and other saints are to have had this > title. > > > > Even 8 Siddhi's can't help to control the mind. > That > > is why they are not cared for by the true > spiritual > > aspirants. > > > > > > warm regards, > > Balaji S. > > > > > > > > --- partvinu5 wrote: > > > dear balaji > > > hitler was born in thula lagna with four planets > in > > > 7th house. > > > 3 planets namely jupiter , moon, rahu were in > 3rd > > > house. saturn is in > > > 10th house saving him from kalasarpa dosha. he > > > didn't have ruchaka > > > yoga. he became very famous due to gajakesari > yoga. > > > coupled with the > > > fact that jupiter is with rahu gave him > notorious > > > image. sun, > > > mercury, mars and venus in 7th gave him > > > psychological illness. > > > regards > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Make a great connection at Personals. > > http://personals. > > Make a great connection at Personals. http://personals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2001 Report Share Posted October 31, 2001 Even in your explanation of Hitler's planetary placements, there is Ruchaka yoga. Mars in the 7th for Thula Lagna would give rise to this yoga.... Best Regards, SA partvinu5 on 10/30/2001 11:59:56 PM Please respond to vedic astrology vedic astrology cc: [vedic astrology] hitler dear balaji hitler was born in thula lagna with four planets in 7th house. 3 planets namely jupiter , moon, rahu were in 3rd house. saturn is in 10th house saving him from kalasarpa dosha. he didn't have ruchaka yoga. he became very famous due to gajakesari yoga. coupled with the fact that jupiter is with rahu gave him notorious image. sun, mercury, mars and venus in 7th gave him psychological illness. regards partha Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2001 Report Share Posted October 31, 2001 Hello Partha, I reply to this note because I think it is important not to mislead people on a public list. Mars in Kendra in own house formulates Ruchaka Yoga. Period. Best Regards, SA partvinu5 on 10/31/2001 12:39:09 AM Please respond to vedic astrology vedic astrology cc: [vedic astrology] Re: hitler dear balaji i am not here for an academic debate. ruchaka yoga is formed when mars is in kendra from moon and is either exalted or in own house. now mars is in 5th from moon isn't it. that doesnot qualify hitler to have ruchaka yoga. as you must be knowing ruchaka yoga is one of the five pancha mahapurusha yogas. namely 1)sasa(saturn 2)hamsa(jupiter 3)malavya(venus 4)ruchaka(mars 5)bhadra(mercury please verify. I am an ardent follower of Sri B.V.Raman. he never mentioned what you had said. regards partha vedic astrology, balaji srinivasan <sri_balaji> wrote: > Dear Partha, > > Hitler according to B.V.Raman has Ruchaka yoga. > Even assuming you are right, Raja yoga didn't help > him. > His free will was bad and he selected the destiny that > was violent. > > Mars should be in 7th which is Aries and this is an > example of Ruchaka yoga. You can say there is Graha > yuddha but still there is this yoga. He liked war, > didn't he. He was cruel and he took the negative trait > of Mars. > Guru is afflicted by Rahu and so is moon. Aries has > fiery grahas like Sun and Mars. I have seen such > combinations give mental disorders in some cases. > > > > In every chart, there can be shades of destruction. > Free will has to be exercised to avoid and minimize > these traits. > > This is where 'Jitendriya' is the objective. I am not > one who can claim this. Great people like Hanuman, > Mahaveera and other saints are to have had this title. > > Even 8 Siddhi's can't help to control the mind. That > is why they are not cared for by the true spiritual > aspirants. > > > warm regards, > Balaji S. > > > > --- partvinu5 wrote: > > dear balaji > > hitler was born in thula lagna with four planets in > > 7th house. > > 3 planets namely jupiter , moon, rahu were in 3rd > > house. saturn is in > > 10th house saving him from kalasarpa dosha. he > > didn't have ruchaka > > yoga. he became very famous due to gajakesari yoga. > > coupled with the > > fact that jupiter is with rahu gave him notorious > > image. sun, > > mercury, mars and venus in 7th gave him > > psychological illness. > > regards > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > Make a great connection at Personals. > http://personals. Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2001 Report Share Posted October 31, 2001 ------------------- Dear Patha, Sa, etc, How else could Hitler have become such a powerful military/militant personality if not for his Ruchaka Yoga. His actions in this position are discussible however.. Best wishes, Visti. Sanjiv Aggarwal/CanWest/IBM <sanjiv (AT) ca (DOT) ibm.com> wrote: Hello Partha,I reply to this note because I think it is important not to mislead peopleon a public list. Mars in Kendra in own house formulates Ruchaka Yoga.Period.Best Regards,SApartvinu5 on 10/31/2001 12:39:09 AMPlease respond to vedic astrologyTo: vedic astrologycc:Subject: [vedic astrology] Re: hitlerdear balajii am not here for an academic debate. ruchaka yoga is formed whenmars is in kendra from moon and is either exalted or in own house.now mars is in 5th from moon isn't it. that doesnot qualify hitler tohave ruchaka yoga. as you must be knowing ruchaka yoga is one of thefive pancha mahapurusha yogas.namely1)sasa(saturn2)hamsa(jupiter3)malavya(venus4)ruchaka(mars5)bhadra(mercuryplease verify. I am an ardent follower of Sri B.V.Raman. he nevermentioned what you had said.regardsparthavedic astrology, balaji srinivasan <sri_balaji>wrote:> Dear Partha,>> Hitler according to B.V.Raman has Ruchaka yoga.> Even assuming you are right, Raja yoga didn't help> him.> His free will was bad and he selected the destiny that> was violent.>> Mars should be in 7th which is Aries and this is an> example of Ruchaka yoga. You can say there is Graha> yuddha but still there is this yoga. He liked war,> didn't he. He was cruel and he took the negative trait> of Mars.> Guru is afflicted by Rahu and so is moon. Aries has> fiery grahas like Sun and Mars. I have seen such> combinations give mental disorders in some cases.>>>> In every chart, there can be shades of destruction.> Free will has to be exercised to avoid and minimize> these traits.>> This is where 'Jitendriya' is the objective. I am not> one who can claim this. Great people like Hanuman,> Mahaveera and other saints are to have had this title.>> Even 8 Siddhi's can't help to control the mind. That> is why they are not cared for by the true spiritual> aspirants.>>> warm regards,> Balaji S.>>>> --- partvinu5 wrote:> > dear balaji> > hitler was born in thula lagna with four planets in> > 7th house.> > 3 planets namely jupiter , moon, rahu were in 3rd> > house. saturn is in> > 10th house saving him from kalasarpa dosha. he> > didn't have ruchaka> > yoga. he became very famous due to gajakesari yoga.> > coupled with the> > fact that jupiter is with rahu gave him notorious> > image. sun,> > mercury, mars and venus in 7th gave him> > psychological illness.> > regards> > partha> >> >> >>>> > > Make a great connection at Personals.> http://personals.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||Your use of is subject to Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Do You ? Make a great connection at Personals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2001 Report Share Posted October 31, 2001 I seem to remember that Hitler had mars in aries in the 7th house, making that a ruchaka yoga - Visti Larsen vedic astrology Wednesday, October 31, 2001 8:56 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: hitler Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha! ------------------- Dear Patha, Sa, etc, How else could Hitler have become such a powerful military/militant personality if not for his Ruchaka Yoga. His actions in this position are discussible however.. Best wishes, Visti. Sanjiv Aggarwal/CanWest/IBM <sanjiv (AT) ca (DOT) ibm.com> wrote: Hello Partha,I reply to this note because I think it is important not to mislead peopleon a public list. Mars in Kendra in own house formulates Ruchaka Yoga.Period.Best Regards,SApartvinu5 on 10/31/2001 12:39:09 AMPlease respond to vedic astrologyTo: vedic astrologycc:Subject: [vedic astrology] Re: hitlerdear balajii am not here for an academic debate. ruchaka yoga is formed whenmars is in kendra from moon and is either exalted or in own house.now mars is in 5th from moon isn't it. that doesnot qualify hitler tohave ruchaka yoga. as you must be knowing ruchaka yoga is one of thefive pancha mahapurusha yogas.namely1)sasa(saturn2)hamsa(jupiter3)malavya(venus4)ruchaka(mars5)bhadra(mercuryplease ver ify. I am an ardent followe! r of Sri B.V.Raman. he nevermentioned what you had said.regardsparthavedic astrology, balaji srinivasan <sri_balaji>wrote:> Dear Partha,>> Hitler according to B.V.Raman has Ruchaka yoga.> Even assuming you are right, Raja yoga didn't help> him.> His free will was bad and he selected the destiny that> was violent.>> Mars should be in 7th which is Aries and this is an> example of Ruchaka yoga. You can say there is Graha> yuddha but still there is this yoga. He liked war,> didn't he. He was cruel and he took the negative trait> of Mars.> Guru is afflicted by Rahu and so is moon. Aries has> fiery grahas like Sun and Mars. I have seen such> combinations give mental disorders in some cases.>>>> In every chart, there can be shades of destruction.> Free will has to be exercised to avoid and minimize> these traits.>! ;> This is where 'Jitendriya' is the objective. I am not> one who can claim this. Great people like Hanuman,> Mahaveera and other saints are to have had this title.>> Even 8 Siddhi's can't help to control the mind. That> is why they are not cared for by the true spiritual> aspirants.>>> warm regards,> Balaji S.>>>> --- partvinu5 wrote:> > dear balaji> > hitler was born in thula lagna with four planets in> > 7th house.> > 3 planets namely jupiter , moon, rahu were in 3rd> > house. saturn is in> > 10th house saving him from kalasarpa dosha. he> > didn't have ruchaka> > yoga. he became very famous due to gajakesari yoga.> > coupled with the> > fact that jupiter is with rahu gave him notorious> > image. sun,> > mercury, mars and venus in 7th gave him> > ; psychological illness.> > regards> > partha> >> >> >>>> > > Make a great connection at Personals.> http://personals.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||Your use of is subject to Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Make a great connection at Personals. Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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