Guest guest Posted October 17, 2001 Report Share Posted October 17, 2001 dear visti thank you for your kind reply. so you have forgiven this poor chap.(laughs). now my question is very simple. my arudha lagna is leo. 2nd house from arudha is aspected by saturn who is in 12th from arudha lagna. so you see that saturn doesn't leave me here also. so the poverty continues. a great combination is always when 5th and 9th lords combine. they have combined but see where are they. they are in 12th. bhagya lord in vyaya. see here also the poverty of ideals, continues.if you have spare time please analyze m chart.(place: delhi, actually 8 30 am ,8 29 am(ist)(as suggested by sanjay guruji, date:15:12:1976). thank you partha --- Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream wrote: > Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha! > -------------- > Dear Partha, > If a person has a large mansion and lots of cars, > then > he appears to be rich, doesn't (s)he? > > Use Lagna to determine if a person is born rich, if > there are many malefics associated with the 2nd from > Lagna, then predict low-class. > > A person can however suddenly rise, and get many > riches, and hence their status may change. But what > is > this status? There is no actual difference between > you > and Bill Gates, you both have the same ammount of > arms > and legs, one head, and etc. The difference is how > people percieve you. > > Now the 2nd house shows our wealth, or what sustains > us(food, money). The lord(paka) of the 2nd, shows > where we get these things(food, money, etc). > > So 2nd lord in 8th shows that we get money through > death/inheritance. Or if 2nd lord is in 12th, we may > get it through investments(stock market, etc), but > fact is that these sources are very unstable for the > 2nd lord, and hence can give problems. > > Predict poverty in periods of your life, of malefics > aspecting the 2nd from AL.. Benefics will remove > poverty or give wealth. > > Actually analyse; 2nd, 4th, 5th, 8th, 10th for > benefics. > Malefics should be in; 3rd, 6th & 12th. > Any grahas are good in 9th and 11th. > This should all be analysed in respect to Arudha > Lagna. > > Source: Jaimini's Upadesa, through the teachings of > Sanjay Rath. > > Varna-da Lagna, shows ones Varna(caste), and hence > also ones proffession. Rath has given some clues to > analysing this in Crux of Vedic Astrology, Chapter > of > 1st house. > > The truth is; that we are all alike. I might think a > person is rich, because he has a bigger house, and > more coins. > > Best wishes, Visti. > > --- partha sarathy <partvinu5 wrote: > > dear sarajit > > i am a poor chap. how do you think i will gain > from > > legacies. neither my parents nor any of distant > > relatives have much to give to me. i am not saying > > that my parents are poor. they are middle class > > people > > with resources that can sustain only for say 15 to > > 20 > > years for them. i don't have anybody in my sight > to > > give legacies.so your argument that 2ndlord that > too > > saturn in 8th giving legacies stands contradicted. > > regarding arudha lagna arudha according to me is > > only > > an illusive concept. what i mean is that the > person > > will appear to be rich if analyzed form arudha > > perspective but not really rich. i donot > understand > > what is varnada lagna. > > regards > > partha sarathy > > > > > > Make a great connection at Personals. > http://personals. > Make a great connection at Personals. http://personals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2001 Report Share Posted October 17, 2001 Dear Partha, I rarely forgive but always appraise. I thought Sun was your Chara Atmakaraka. Sun in 12th is bad(marana karaka sthana), learn to be humble.. don't open your mouthe just for the sake of opening it.. let other reasons prevail. Reckon the Arudha Lagna from Rasi Dristi..graha dristi isn't enough. Natural Malefics in Dusthanas are good.. Sun lords 9th, and Dharma suffers greatly. Sun and Jupiter(lagna and 4th lord) are in Rasi Dristi to each other. Jupiter is helping Sun gain back its dharma. Jupiter and Ketu in 5th, give good prospects as an astrologer.. Astrology will strengthen the Dharma lost by Sun. Krishna gave the best Mantra for this; "Om Tat Sat".. Read the Bhagavad Gita during this New Moon, and meditate. Thats enough for a New Moon..words are sacred, rest is left for meditation. Best wishes, Visti. --- partha sarathy <partvinu5 wrote: > dear visti > thank you for your kind reply. so you have forgiven > this poor chap.(laughs). now my question is very > simple. my arudha lagna is leo. 2nd house from > arudha > is aspected by saturn who is in 12th from arudha > lagna. so you see that saturn doesn't leave me here > also. so the poverty continues. a great combination > is > always when 5th and 9th lords combine. they have > combined but see where are they. they are in 12th. > bhagya lord in vyaya. see here also the poverty of > ideals, continues.if you have spare time please > analyze m chart.(place: delhi, actually 8 30 am ,8 > 29 > am(ist)(as suggested by sanjay guruji, > date:15:12:1976). > > thank you > partha > > --- Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream wrote: > > Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha! > > -------------- > > Dear Partha, > > If a person has a large mansion and lots of cars, > > then > > he appears to be rich, doesn't (s)he? > > > > Use Lagna to determine if a person is born rich, > if > > there are many malefics associated with the 2nd > from > > Lagna, then predict low-class. > > > > A person can however suddenly rise, and get many > > riches, and hence their status may change. But > what > > is > > this status? There is no actual difference between > > you > > and Bill Gates, you both have the same ammount of > > arms > > and legs, one head, and etc. The difference is how > > people percieve you. > > > > Now the 2nd house shows our wealth, or what > sustains > > us(food, money). The lord(paka) of the 2nd, shows > > where we get these things(food, money, etc). > > > > So 2nd lord in 8th shows that we get money through > > death/inheritance. Or if 2nd lord is in 12th, we > may > > get it through investments(stock market, etc), but > > fact is that these sources are very unstable for > the > > 2nd lord, and hence can give problems. > > > > Predict poverty in periods of your life, of > malefics > > aspecting the 2nd from AL.. Benefics will remove > > poverty or give wealth. > > > > Actually analyse; 2nd, 4th, 5th, 8th, 10th for > > benefics. > > Malefics should be in; 3rd, 6th & 12th. > > Any grahas are good in 9th and 11th. > > This should all be analysed in respect to Arudha > > Lagna. > > > > Source: Jaimini's Upadesa, through the teachings > of > > Sanjay Rath. > > > > Varna-da Lagna, shows ones Varna(caste), and hence > > also ones proffession. Rath has given some clues > to > > analysing this in Crux of Vedic Astrology, Chapter > > of > > 1st house. > > > > The truth is; that we are all alike. I might think > a > > person is rich, because he has a bigger house, and > > more coins. > > > > Best wishes, Visti. > > > > --- partha sarathy <partvinu5 wrote: > > > dear sarajit > > > i am a poor chap. how do you think i will gain > > from > > > legacies. neither my parents nor any of distant > > > relatives have much to give to me. i am not > saying > > > that my parents are poor. they are middle class > > > people > > > with resources that can sustain only for say 15 > to > > > 20 > > > years for them. i don't have anybody in my sight > > to > > > give legacies.so your argument that 2ndlord that > > too > > > saturn in 8th giving legacies stands > contradicted. > > > regarding arudha lagna arudha according to me is > > > only > > > an illusive concept. what i mean is that the > > person > > > will appear to be rich if analyzed form arudha > > > perspective but not really rich. i donot > > understand > > > what is varnada lagna. > > > regards > > > partha sarathy > > > > > > > > > > > > Make a great connection at Personals. > > http://personals. > > > > > > > Make a great connection at Personals. > http://personals. > Make a great connection at Personals. http://personals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2001 Report Share Posted October 17, 2001 Dear Visti and other list memebers, I have a few questions abt this chart. Will be obliged if you can answer this. This Will help in my learning. 1. Merc is the Bhadakadipati in viro Navamsa. How does this change the scenario? 2. Jupiter and ketu in the 5th is good for astrology.. i understand that... but how (does it?) does this change with the fact that jupiter is retrograde? 3. I also noticed Rahu in the 12th from Sun, the AK. what does this mean? (also the 3rd from AL) Thanks Narahari vedic astrology, Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream> wrote: > Dear Partha, > I rarely forgive but always appraise. > > I thought Sun was your Chara Atmakaraka. > Sun in 12th is bad(marana karaka sthana), learn to be > humble.. don't open your mouthe just for the sake of > opening it.. let other reasons prevail. > > Reckon the Arudha Lagna from Rasi Dristi..graha dristi > isn't enough. > > Natural Malefics in Dusthanas are good.. Sun lords > 9th, and Dharma suffers greatly. Sun and Jupiter(lagna > and 4th lord) are in Rasi Dristi to each other. > Jupiter is helping Sun gain back its dharma. > > Jupiter and Ketu in 5th, give good prospects as an > astrologer.. Astrology will strengthen the Dharma lost > by Sun. > > Krishna gave the best Mantra for this; "Om Tat Sat".. > Read the Bhagavad Gita during this New Moon, and > meditate. > > Thats enough for a New Moon..words are sacred, rest is > left for meditation. > > Best wishes, Visti. --- partha sarathy <partvinu5> wrote: > > dear visti > > thank you for your kind reply. so you have forgiven > > this poor chap.(laughs). now my question is very > > simple. my arudha lagna is leo. 2nd house from > > arudha > > is aspected by saturn who is in 12th from arudha > > lagna. so you see that saturn doesn't leave me here > > also. so the poverty continues. a great combination > > is > > always when 5th and 9th lords combine. they have > > combined but see where are they. they are in 12th. > > bhagya lord in vyaya. see here also the poverty of > > ideals, continues.if you have spare time please > > analyze m chart.(place: delhi, actually 8 30 am ,8 > > 29 > > am(ist)(as suggested by sanjay guruji, > > date:15:12:1976). > > > > thank you > > partha > > > > --- Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream> wrote: > > > Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha! > > > -------------- > > > Dear Partha, > > > If a person has a large mansion and lots of cars, > > > then > > > he appears to be rich, doesn't (s)he? > > > > > > Use Lagna to determine if a person is born rich, > > if > > > there are many malefics associated with the 2nd > > from > > > Lagna, then predict low-class. > > > > > > A person can however suddenly rise, and get many > > > riches, and hence their status may change. But > > what > > > is > > > this status? There is no actual difference between > > > you > > > and Bill Gates, you both have the same ammount of > > > arms > > > and legs, one head, and etc. The difference is how > > > people percieve you. > > > > > > Now the 2nd house shows our wealth, or what > > sustains > > > us(food, money). The lord(paka) of the 2nd, shows > > > where we get these things(food, money, etc). > > > > > > So 2nd lord in 8th shows that we get money through > > > death/inheritance. Or if 2nd lord is in 12th, we > > may > > > get it through investments(stock market, etc), but > > > fact is that these sources are very unstable for > > the > > > 2nd lord, and hence can give problems. > > > > > > Predict poverty in periods of your life, of > > malefics > > > aspecting the 2nd from AL.. Benefics will remove > > > poverty or give wealth. > > > > > > Actually analyse; 2nd, 4th, 5th, 8th, 10th for > > > benefics. > > > Malefics should be in; 3rd, 6th & 12th. > > > Any grahas are good in 9th and 11th. > > > This should all be analysed in respect to Arudha > > > Lagna. > > > > > > Source: Jaimini's Upadesa, through the teachings > > of > > > Sanjay Rath. > > > > > > Varna-da Lagna, shows ones Varna(caste), and hence > > > also ones proffession. Rath has given some clues > > to > > > analysing this in Crux of Vedic Astrology, Chapter > > > of > > > 1st house. > > > > > > The truth is; that we are all alike. I might think > > a > > > person is rich, because he has a bigger house, and > > > more coins. > > > > > > Best wishes, Visti. > > > > > > --- partha sarathy <partvinu5> wrote: > > > > dear sarajit > > > > i am a poor chap. how do you think i will gain > > > from > > > > legacies. neither my parents nor any of distant > > > > relatives have much to give to me. i am not > > saying > > > > that my parents are poor. they are middle class > > > > people > > > > with resources that can sustain only for say 15 > > to > > > > 20 > > > > years for them. i don't have anybody in my sight > > > to > > > > give legacies.so your argument that 2ndlord that > > > too > > > > saturn in 8th giving legacies stands > > contradicted. > > > > regarding arudha lagna arudha according to me is > > > > only > > > > an illusive concept. what i mean is that the > > > person > > > > will appear to be rich if analyzed form arudha > > > > perspective but not really rich. i donot > > > understand > > > > what is varnada lagna. > > > > regards > > > > partha sarathy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Make a great connection at Personals. > > > http://personals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Make a great connection at Personals. > > http://personals. > > > > > > > Make a great connection at Personals. > http://personals. 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Guest guest Posted October 18, 2001 Report Share Posted October 18, 2001 dear visti what you have said is right. but let me give some points a) i rarely had a fight with my teachers in my entire life. so i could assume like this, jupiter retro means that (lagna lord retro) thus i will have unconventional thoughts and actions. wetjer you call it maya or perception , the truth is i have been given cirtificates in my school and college life for sincertity, punctuality and scholastic achievements. b) thus the arguments which i had with you was only probably the 2nd or hmmm third serious argument in my entire life. c) regarding your point on rahu third from arudha gives deceptive or vitriolic communication is vindicated by the fact that arudha is the peetha of perception. ok i agree that faking and perception are not the same. but rahu in third from arudha does make people believe that i am angry etc. which is not true. if you see in my actual life i am actually very detatched(5th ketu) shunning all the material comforts and very saint like. d) could you please give your birth details. thank you regards partha sarathy --- Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream wrote: > Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha! > --------------------- > Dear Partha, > Some corrections bellow. > > e)jupiter retrograde means that i will argue with > elders like visti(laughs) and get appraised for it. > i > will also suffer due to the guru chandal yogas. > > Hmm.. When will Jupiter fight? Mars is the fighter. > 9th lord joining Mars = > Fights with teachers. > Jupiter retro, indicates someone who continues the > work of another.. In 5th > it indicates supplemant predictions. > > h) rahu in 3rd from arudha shows that i will appear > angry in my communications, which i am only > faking.(arudha for illusions) > > When does Rahu fight? Its a malefic, but a very > cunning one. > You say i'm a guru.. thats an illusion.. Truth is > that we are both equal. > Fact is that Maya is so closely bound to to our way > of life, that its > actually the way we messure one person from another. > Maya isn't the same as > faking it. > > Another example: You and your father, have same > build, same body, etc.. > thats the truth. Maya is when you differentiate and > call him father. Or call > the person who hired you; Boss. > > Arudha isn't the same as "faking it".. How other > percieve us is seen from > the Arudha Lagna.. How our actions are percieved is > seen from the 3rd & > 6th from Arudha Lagna. > > Best wishes, Visti. > Make a great connection at Personals. http://personals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2001 Report Share Posted October 19, 2001 Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha! ----- Dear Partha, Your certificates are seen from A5. Regarding Arguments.. its all about timing. Yes here are my Birthdetails, you'll find that i'm much younger than you; 21st November, 1981, 6:22:22 AM Nairobi, Kenya(+3 East GMT), (36e49;1s17). Rasi Lagna: Scorpio. Navamsa Lagna: Leo. Shastyamsa Lagna: Sag. Happy hunting, i'm visiting relatives for the next few days. Best wishes, Visti. --- partha sarathy <partvinu5 wrote: > dear visti > what you have said is right. but let me give some > points > a) i rarely had a fight with my teachers in my > entire > life. so i could assume like this, jupiter retro > means > that (lagna lord retro) thus i will have > unconventional thoughts and actions. wetjer you call > it maya or perception , the truth is i have been > given > cirtificates in my school and college life for > sincertity, punctuality and scholastic achievements. > b) thus the arguments which i had with you was only > probably the 2nd or hmmm third serious argument in > my > entire life. > c) regarding your point on rahu third from arudha > gives deceptive or vitriolic communication is > vindicated by the fact that arudha is the peetha of > perception. ok i agree that faking and perception > are > not the same. but rahu in third from arudha does > make > people believe that i am angry etc. which is not > true. > if you see in my actual life i am actually very > detatched(5th ketu) shunning all the material > comforts > and very saint like. > d) could you please give your birth details. > thank you > regards > partha sarathy > > --- Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream wrote: > > Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha! > > > --------------------- > > Dear Partha, > > Some corrections bellow. > > > > e)jupiter retrograde means that i will argue with > > elders like visti(laughs) and get appraised for > it. > > i > > will also suffer due to the guru chandal yogas. > > > > Hmm.. When will Jupiter fight? Mars is the > fighter. > > 9th lord joining Mars = > > Fights with teachers. > > Jupiter retro, indicates someone who continues the > > work of another.. In 5th > > it indicates supplemant predictions. > > > > h) rahu in 3rd from arudha shows that i will > appear > > angry in my communications, which i am only > > faking.(arudha for illusions) > > > > When does Rahu fight? Its a malefic, but a very > > cunning one. > > You say i'm a guru.. thats an illusion.. Truth is > > that we are both equal. > > Fact is that Maya is so closely bound to to our > way > > of life, that its > > actually the way we messure one person from > another. > > Maya isn't the same as > > faking it. > > > > Another example: You and your father, have same > > build, same body, etc.. > > thats the truth. Maya is when you differentiate > and > > call him father. Or call > > the person who hired you; Boss. > > > > Arudha isn't the same as "faking it".. How other > > percieve us is seen from > > the Arudha Lagna.. How our actions are percieved > is > > seen from the 3rd & > > 6th from Arudha Lagna. > > > > Best wishes, Visti. > > > > > > > Make a great connection at Personals. > http://personals. > Make a great connection at Personals. http://personals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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