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Dear friends

 

Can anybody explaine

How to judge atmakaraka planet wich is debilitated both in Rasi and

Navamsa chart ?

What is the rule for "vargottama neech" ?

 

Thanks

Diego

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Hi All & Digeo !!!

 

My DOB >>>24-01-1974

Place >>>Hyderabad

time >>>15:10

 

In my case lagna is Mithuna >>>vorgotamma in RASI &

NAVAMSA &BHAVA...

 

Rasi Is also the same Makara In Rasi & Navamsa ...

 

AK Is Jupiter In 8th house ... Is Neecha Bhanga raja

yoga

 

In Rasi & Navamsa ....Rasi Makara...

 

Can Any one come with analaysis with this chart as an

Example...

 

Best Regards

Srinaegsh

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- alkalay88 wrote:

> Dear friends

>

> Can anybody explaine

> How to judge atmakaraka planet wich is debilitated

> both in Rasi and

> Navamsa chart ?

> What is the rule for "vargottama neech" ?

>

> Thanks

> Diego

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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Hare Rama Krishna

Dear Diego!

 

Atmakaraka neecha means lots of trouble in this life. If the neechabanga

happens, then the native stands victorious and glorious after the troubles.

Infact neecha AK shows that the life has to teach a lot of lesson to him...

 

Vargottama, infact increase the strength of the planet. However, the

question here is that, whether it applies also to neecha planet also... I

have not seen any author commented on the same excluding one, Pt.

Ramakrishna Bhat in his book fundamentals of vedic astrology. There he said

that vargottama of the neecha planet makes it much weaker. In my opinion

Howeever if neechabhange happens to such planet, it stands out to be very

powerful to confer neechabhanga raja yoga.

 

Any planet who is neecha in navamsa causes lots of trouble as it can nullify

good yogas associated to the chart and also cause rajabhanga neecha yoga.

That is why debilitated vargottama planet becomes weaker. However, weaker

the planet becomes in neecha, the stronger the rajayoga becomes if there is

neechabhanga.

 

In fact I have Moon in Neecha Vargottama, with deadliest Rahu in the 12th

from Dhanu Lagna... I am waiting for it to show its colour...

 

I would appreaciate other commenting on this....

 

Regards

Sarajit

 

 

-

<alkalay88

<vedic astrology>

Saturday, October 13, 2001 3:07 AM

[vedic astrology] ATMAKARAKA NEECH

 

 

> Dear friends

>

> Can anybody explaine

> How to judge atmakaraka planet wich is debilitated both in Rasi and

> Navamsa chart ?

> What is the rule for "vargottama neech" ?

>

> Thanks

> Diego

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Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha!

------------

Dear Diego & Sarajit,

Navamsa shows our inherited Dharma from Past life, and

any weak planets in it, is very bad, and can nulify

any yogas. If a planet is in debilitated Vargottama,

then it can inhibit alot of things from happening..

Best wishes, Visti.

 

 

--- Sarajit Poddar <sarajitp wrote:

> Hare Rama Krishna

> Dear Diego!

>

> Atmakaraka neecha means lots of trouble in this

> life. If the neechabanga

> happens, then the native stands victorious and

> glorious after the troubles.

> Infact neecha AK shows that the life has to teach a

> lot of lesson to him...

>

> Vargottama, infact increase the strength of the

> planet. However, the

> question here is that, whether it applies also to

> neecha planet also... I

> have not seen any author commented on the same

> excluding one, Pt.

> Ramakrishna Bhat in his book fundamentals of vedic

> astrology. There he said

> that vargottama of the neecha planet makes it much

> weaker. In my opinion

> Howeever if neechabhange happens to such planet, it

> stands out to be very

> powerful to confer neechabhanga raja yoga.

>

> Any planet who is neecha in navamsa causes lots of

> trouble as it can nullify

> good yogas associated to the chart and also cause

> rajabhanga neecha yoga.

> That is why debilitated vargottama planet becomes

> weaker. However, weaker

> the planet becomes in neecha, the stronger the

> rajayoga becomes if there is

> neechabhanga.

>

> In fact I have Moon in Neecha Vargottama, with

> deadliest Rahu in the 12th

> from Dhanu Lagna... I am waiting for it to show its

> colour...

>

> I would appreaciate other commenting on this....

>

> Regards

> Sarajit

>

>

> -

> <alkalay88

> <vedic astrology>

> Saturday, October 13, 2001 3:07 AM

> [vedic astrology] ATMAKARAKA NEECH

>

>

> > Dear friends

> >

> > Can anybody explaine

> > How to judge atmakaraka planet wich is debilitated

> both in Rasi and

> > Navamsa chart ?

> > What is the rule for "vargottama neech" ?

> >

> > Thanks

> > Diego

>

>

 

 

 

 

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Dear Friends

 

I red on the Jyotish Pundit Dharma Datta mailing list

following statement writen by Pundit:

 

"vargottama neecha. There is no such thing as

vargottama neecha.

Remember the vargottama principle: a planet having

the same sign in

lagna chart as well as navamsa, attains status of

exaltation. Do not

attach any adjective to the sign as ucha, neech, sawa

etc. - simply any sign".

 

Please, make a comment on this...

 

Thanks

Diego

 

 

--- Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream wrote:

> Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha!

> ------------

> Dear Diego & Sarajit,

> Navamsa shows our inherited Dharma from Past life,

> and

> any weak planets in it, is very bad, and can nulify

> any yogas. If a planet is in debilitated Vargottama,

> then it can inhibit alot of things from happening..

> Best wishes, Visti.

>

>

> --- Sarajit Poddar <sarajitp wrote:

> > Hare Rama Krishna

> > Dear Diego!

> >

> > Atmakaraka neecha means lots of trouble in this

> > life. If the neechabanga

> > happens, then the native stands victorious and

> > glorious after the troubles.

> > Infact neecha AK shows that the life has to teach

> a

> > lot of lesson to him...

> >

> > Vargottama, infact increase the strength of the

> > planet. However, the

> > question here is that, whether it applies also to

> > neecha planet also... I

> > have not seen any author commented on the same

> > excluding one, Pt.

> > Ramakrishna Bhat in his book fundamentals of vedic

> > astrology. There he said

> > that vargottama of the neecha planet makes it much

> > weaker. In my opinion

> > Howeever if neechabhange happens to such planet,

> it

> > stands out to be very

> > powerful to confer neechabhanga raja yoga.

> >

> > Any planet who is neecha in navamsa causes lots of

> > trouble as it can nullify

> > good yogas associated to the chart and also cause

> > rajabhanga neecha yoga.

> > That is why debilitated vargottama planet becomes

> > weaker. However, weaker

> > the planet becomes in neecha, the stronger the

> > rajayoga becomes if there is

> > neechabhanga.

> >

> > In fact I have Moon in Neecha Vargottama, with

> > deadliest Rahu in the 12th

> > from Dhanu Lagna... I am waiting for it to show

> its

> > colour...

> >

> > I would appreaciate other commenting on this....

> >

> > Regards

> > Sarajit

> >

> >

> > -

> > <alkalay88

> > <vedic astrology>

> > Saturday, October 13, 2001 3:07 AM

> > [vedic astrology] ATMAKARAKA NEECH

> >

> >

> > > Dear friends

> > >

> > > Can anybody explaine

> > > How to judge atmakaraka planet wich is

> debilitated

> > both in Rasi and

> > > Navamsa chart ?

> > > What is the rule for "vargottama neech" ?

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Diego

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

> Make a great connection at Personals.

> http://personals.

>

 

 

 

 

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Aum Gurave Namah

Dear Diego!

 

I gave my opinion on the same. Had it been some other house, I agree that

vargottama planets are infact considered to be very strong. However, in

Neecha, I tend to disagree with Panditjee...

 

It would be nice to see some horoscopes having the same....

 

Regards

Sarajit

-

"Diego Lauria" <alkalay88

<vedic astrology>

Saturday, October 13, 2001 4:14 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] ATMAKARAKA NEECH

 

 

> Dear Friends

>

> I red on the Jyotish Pundit Dharma Datta mailing list

> following statement writen by Pundit:

>

> "vargottama neecha. There is no such thing as

> vargottama neecha.

> Remember the vargottama principle: a planet having

> the same sign in

> lagna chart as well as navamsa, attains status of

> exaltation. Do not

> attach any adjective to the sign as ucha, neech, sawa

> etc. - simply any sign".

>

> Please, make a comment on this...

>

> Thanks

> Diego

>

>

> --- Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream wrote:

> > Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha!

> > ------------

> > Dear Diego & Sarajit,

> > Navamsa shows our inherited Dharma from Past life,

> > and

> > any weak planets in it, is very bad, and can nulify

> > any yogas. If a planet is in debilitated Vargottama,

> > then it can inhibit alot of things from happening..

> > Best wishes, Visti.

> >

> >

> > --- Sarajit Poddar <sarajitp wrote:

> > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > Dear Diego!

> > >

> > > Atmakaraka neecha means lots of trouble in this

> > > life. If the neechabanga

> > > happens, then the native stands victorious and

> > > glorious after the troubles.

> > > Infact neecha AK shows that the life has to teach

> > a

> > > lot of lesson to him...

> > >

> > > Vargottama, infact increase the strength of the

> > > planet. However, the

> > > question here is that, whether it applies also to

> > > neecha planet also... I

> > > have not seen any author commented on the same

> > > excluding one, Pt.

> > > Ramakrishna Bhat in his book fundamentals of vedic

> > > astrology. There he said

> > > that vargottama of the neecha planet makes it much

> > > weaker. In my opinion

> > > Howeever if neechabhange happens to such planet,

> > it

> > > stands out to be very

> > > powerful to confer neechabhanga raja yoga.

> > >

> > > Any planet who is neecha in navamsa causes lots of

> > > trouble as it can nullify

> > > good yogas associated to the chart and also cause

> > > rajabhanga neecha yoga.

> > > That is why debilitated vargottama planet becomes

> > > weaker. However, weaker

> > > the planet becomes in neecha, the stronger the

> > > rajayoga becomes if there is

> > > neechabhanga.

> > >

> > > In fact I have Moon in Neecha Vargottama, with

> > > deadliest Rahu in the 12th

> > > from Dhanu Lagna... I am waiting for it to show

> > its

> > > colour...

> > >

> > > I would appreaciate other commenting on this....

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Sarajit

> > >

> > >

> > > -

> > > <alkalay88

> > > <vedic astrology>

> > > Saturday, October 13, 2001 3:07 AM

> > > [vedic astrology] ATMAKARAKA NEECH

> > >

> > >

> > > > Dear friends

> > > >

> > > > Can anybody explaine

> > > > How to judge atmakaraka planet wich is

> > debilitated

> > > both in Rasi and

> > > > Navamsa chart ?

> > > > What is the rule for "vargottama neech" ?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Diego

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Make a great connection at Personals.

> > http://personals.

> >

>

>

>

>

> Make a great connection at Personals.

> http://personals.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>

>

>

> Your use of is subject to

>

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Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha!

-------------

Dear Diego,

This statement comes from the idea that we should only

consider houses in Varga charts and not the sign

itself. I'm still not sure why this idea has come, but

i would surely disgard it.

 

But nevertheless meditate on this;

Do planets only get exalted in Rasi?

 

This should answer your question.

Best wishes, Visti.

 

 

--- Diego Lauria <alkalay88 wrote:

> Dear Friends

>

> I red on the Jyotish Pundit Dharma Datta mailing

> list

> following statement writen by Pundit:

>

> "vargottama neecha. There is no such thing as

> vargottama neecha.

> Remember the vargottama principle: a planet having

> the same sign in

> lagna chart as well as navamsa, attains status of

> exaltation. Do not

> attach any adjective to the sign as ucha, neech,

> sawa

> etc. - simply any sign".

>

> Please, make a comment on this...

>

> Thanks

> Diego

>

>

> --- Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream wrote:

> > Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha!

> > ------------

> > Dear Diego & Sarajit,

> > Navamsa shows our inherited Dharma from Past life,

> > and

> > any weak planets in it, is very bad, and can

> nulify

> > any yogas. If a planet is in debilitated

> Vargottama,

> > then it can inhibit alot of things from

> happening..

> > Best wishes, Visti.

> >

> >

> > --- Sarajit Poddar <sarajitp wrote:

> > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > Dear Diego!

> > >

> > > Atmakaraka neecha means lots of trouble in this

> > > life. If the neechabanga

> > > happens, then the native stands victorious and

> > > glorious after the troubles.

> > > Infact neecha AK shows that the life has to

> teach

> > a

> > > lot of lesson to him...

> > >

> > > Vargottama, infact increase the strength of the

> > > planet. However, the

> > > question here is that, whether it applies also

> to

> > > neecha planet also... I

> > > have not seen any author commented on the same

> > > excluding one, Pt.

> > > Ramakrishna Bhat in his book fundamentals of

> vedic

> > > astrology. There he said

> > > that vargottama of the neecha planet makes it

> much

> > > weaker. In my opinion

> > > Howeever if neechabhange happens to such planet,

> > it

> > > stands out to be very

> > > powerful to confer neechabhanga raja yoga.

> > >

> > > Any planet who is neecha in navamsa causes lots

> of

> > > trouble as it can nullify

> > > good yogas associated to the chart and also

> cause

> > > rajabhanga neecha yoga.

> > > That is why debilitated vargottama planet

> becomes

> > > weaker. However, weaker

> > > the planet becomes in neecha, the stronger the

> > > rajayoga becomes if there is

> > > neechabhanga.

> > >

> > > In fact I have Moon in Neecha Vargottama, with

> > > deadliest Rahu in the 12th

> > > from Dhanu Lagna... I am waiting for it to show

> > its

> > > colour...

> > >

> > > I would appreaciate other commenting on this....

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Sarajit

> > >

> > >

> > > -

> > > <alkalay88

> > > <vedic astrology>

> > > Saturday, October 13, 2001 3:07 AM

> > > [vedic astrology] ATMAKARAKA NEECH

> > >

> > >

> > > > Dear friends

> > > >

> > > > Can anybody explaine

> > > > How to judge atmakaraka planet wich is

> > debilitated

> > > both in Rasi and

> > > > Navamsa chart ?

> > > > What is the rule for "vargottama neech" ?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Diego

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Make a great connection at Personals.

> > http://personals.

> >

>

>

>

>

> Make a great connection at Personals.

> http://personals.

>

 

 

 

 

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This horoscope has neecha Atmakaraka in the navamsa and neecha vargottama Sun,

you wanted to see some horoscopes with them, here it is.....any comments?

I think both of them have neecha bhanga, do they qualify for Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga?

DOB : Oct 20th 1951

Time of Birth: 9:55PM

Time Zone : 5:30 East of GMT

Longitude : 77 E 30

Latitude : 15 N 24

Ravi

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Date:10/13/2001 6:54:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time

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Aum Gurave Namah

Dear Diego!

I gave my opinion on the same. Had it been some other house, I agree that

vargottama planets are infact considered to be very strong. However, in

Neecha, I tend to disagree with Panditjee...

It would be nice to see some horoscopes having the same....

Regards

Sarajit

-

"Diego Lauria" <alkalay88 >

<vedic astrology>

Saturday, October 13, 2001 4:14 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] ATMAKARAKA NEECH

> Dear Friends

>

> I red on the Jyotish Pundit Dharma Datta mailing list

> following statement writen by Pundit:

>

> "vargottama neecha. There is no such thing as

> vargottama neecha.

> Remember the vargottama principle: a planet having

> the same sign in

> lagna chart as well as navamsa, attains status of

> exaltation. Do not

> attach any adjective to the sign as ucha, neech, sawa

> etc. - simply any sign".

>

> Please, make a comment on this...

>

> Thanks

> Diego

>

>

> --- Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream > wrote:

> > Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha!

> > ------------

> > Dear Diego & Sarajit,

> > Navamsa shows our inherited Dharma from Past life,

> > and

> > any weak planets in it, is very bad, and can nulify

> > any yogas. If a planet is in debilitated Vargottama,

> > then it can inhibit alot of things from happening..

> > Best wishes, Visti.

> >

> >

> > --- Sarajit Poddar <sarajitp (AT) hclinsys (DOT) com> wrote:

> > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > Dear Diego!

> > >

> > > Atmakaraka neecha means lots of trouble in this

> > > life. If the neechabanga

> > > happens, then the native stands victorious and

> > > glorious after the troubles.

> > > Infact neecha AK shows that the life has to teach

> > a

> > > lot of lesson to him...

> > >

> > > Vargottama, infact increase the strength of the

> > > planet. However, the

> > > question here is that, whether it applies also to

> > > neecha planet also... I

> > > have not seen any author commented on the same

> > > excluding one, Pt.

> > > Ramakrishna Bhat in his book fundamentals of vedic

> > > astrology. There he said

> > > that vargottama of the neecha planet makes it much

> > > weaker. In my opinion

> > > Howeever if neechabhange happens to such planet,

> > it

> > > stands out to be very

> > > powerful to confer neechabhanga raja yoga.

> > >

> > > Any planet who is neecha in navamsa causes lots of

> > > trouble as it can nullify

> > > good yogas associated to the chart and also cause

> > > rajabhanga neecha yoga.

> > > That is why debilitated vargottama planet becomes

> > > weaker. However, weaker

> > > the planet becomes in neecha, the stronger the

> > > rajayoga becomes if there is

> > > neechabhanga.

> > >

> > > In fact I have Moon in Neecha Vargottama, with

> > > deadliest Rahu in the 12th

> > > from Dhanu Lagna... I am waiting for it to show

> > its

> > > colour...

> > >

> > > I would appreaciate other commenting on this....

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Sarajit

> > >

> > >

> > > -

> > > <alkalay88 >

> > > <vedic astrology>

> > > Saturday, October 13, 2001 3:07 AM

> > > [vedic astrology] ATMAKARAKA NEECH

> > >

> > >

> > > > Dear friends

> > > >

> > > > Can anybody explaine

> > > > How to judge atmakaraka planet wich is

> > debilitated

> > > both in Rasi and

> > > > Navamsa chart ?

> > > > What is the rule for "vargottama neech" ?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Diego

> > >

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Dear Sarajit,

 

I have not seen Neecha/Neecha vargottama in charts of people whose life

history I know. I have seen Neecha/Uchcha and Uchcha/Neecha though. I

believe that Neecha/Uchcha is a form of neechabhanga in itself. Those with

this have tended to make a success of their life in the area occupied by

that graha often to their own surprise. Others have a better estimate of

their abilities than they have themselves.

 

On the other hand, those with the Uchcha/Neecha combination are constantly

expecting to succeed, even unrealistically sometimes. This may be different

if there are other strong sources of neecha bhanga. But their ambitions

almost always centre on the karakatwa of the planet in question. E.g. Venus

Uchcha/Neecha who wants to be in the acting industry. Similarly with people

whose planet is neecha without strong bhanga. I am not sure why. On the

other hand, an Uchcha/Uchcha graha seems to almost take itself for granted,

and there may not be an intense interest in the area represented by that

graha. E.g. venus uchcha vargottama, likes arts in general, but no strong

interest in any of the areas indicated by venus - clothes, appearance,

acting etc. Has an instinctive feel for good art, and an ability to point

out where something has gone wrong. Same person with jupiter uchcha

vargottama - no interest in being rich, no strong feeling of ownership of

financial assets, no interest in being respected. But very ethical. This

same person has mars and mercury in the 8th house - really the only bad

placement in the chart. There is an almost obsessive interest in puzzles,

wordgames, computing, a need to know everything, whether useful or not. Was

once reputed to have read the encyclopaedia brittanica while sick when

young.

 

This makes me wonder whether we, or perhaps those who are interested in

developing further, pay attention to those areas of our lives that seem

weak.

 

This is just a thought.

 

Nimmi

 

 

 

 

 

-

"Sarajit Poddar" <sarajitp

<vedic astrology>

Saturday, October 13, 2001 5:12 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] ATMAKARAKA NEECH

 

 

>

> Hare Rama Krishna

> Dear Diego!

>

> Atmakaraka neecha means lots of trouble in this life. If the neechabanga

> happens, then the native stands victorious and glorious after the

troubles.

> Infact neecha AK shows that the life has to teach a lot of lesson to

him...

>

> Vargottama, infact increase the strength of the planet. However, the

> question here is that, whether it applies also to neecha planet also... I

> have not seen any author commented on the same excluding one, Pt.

> Ramakrishna Bhat in his book fundamentals of vedic astrology. There he

said

> that vargottama of the neecha planet makes it much weaker. In my opinion

> Howeever if neechabhange happens to such planet, it stands out to be very

> powerful to confer neechabhanga raja yoga.

>

> Any planet who is neecha in navamsa causes lots of trouble as it can

nullify

> good yogas associated to the chart and also cause rajabhanga neecha yoga.

> That is why debilitated vargottama planet becomes weaker. However, weaker

> the planet becomes in neecha, the stronger the rajayoga becomes if there

is

> neechabhanga.

>

> In fact I have Moon in Neecha Vargottama, with deadliest Rahu in the 12th

> from Dhanu Lagna... I am waiting for it to show its colour...

>

> I would appreaciate other commenting on this....

>

> Regards

> Sarajit

>

>

> -

> <alkalay88

> <vedic astrology>

> Saturday, October 13, 2001 3:07 AM

> [vedic astrology] ATMAKARAKA NEECH

>

>

> > Dear friends

> >

> > Can anybody explaine

> > How to judge atmakaraka planet wich is debilitated both in Rasi and

> > Navamsa chart ?

> > What is the rule for "vargottama neech" ?

> >

> > Thanks

> > Diego

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>

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Om Krishna Guru

Hi All,

 

In my chart Sun is Neecha Vargottamma.

 

DOB: 10/20/1970

Time: 08:45AM +5:30 East of GMT

Longitude: 78E49

Latitude: 10N22

 

My feeling is Sun in Vargottamma has made it a weak combination

since they are neecha. Any comments on the chart

 

Thx

-Siva

 

 

 

vedic astrology, ravijanak@a... wrote:

> Dear Sarajit, Visti and other friends,

>

> This horoscope has neecha Atmakaraka in the navamsa and neecha

vargottama

> Sun, you wanted to see some horoscopes with them, here it

is.....any comments?

>

> I think both of them have neecha bhanga, do they qualify for Neecha

Bhanga

> Raja Yoga?

>

> DOB : Oct 20th 1951

> Time of Birth: 9:55PM

> Time Zone : 5:30 East of GMT

> Longitude : 77 E 30

> Latitude : 15 N 24

>

> Ravi

>

>

> > Subj:Re: [vedic astrology] ATMAKARAKA NEECH

> > Date:10/13/2001 6:54:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time

> > sarajitp@h... (Sarajit Poddar)

> > Reply-to: <A HREF="vedic astrology">vedic-

astrology</A>

> > vedic astrology

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Aum Gurave Namah

> > Dear Diego!

> >

> > I gave my opinion on the same. Had it been some other house, I

agree that

> > vargottama planets are infact considered to be very strong.

However, in

> > Neecha, I tend to disagree with Panditjee...

> >

> > It would be nice to see some horoscopes having the same....

> >

> > Regards

> > Sarajit

> > -

> > "Diego Lauria" <alkalay88>

> > <vedic astrology>

> > Saturday, October 13, 2001 4:14 PM

> > Re: [vedic astrology] ATMAKARAKA NEECH

> >

> >

> > > Dear Friends

> > >

> > > I red on the Jyotish Pundit Dharma Datta mailing list

> > > following statement writen by Pundit:

> > >

> > > "vargottama neecha. There is no such thing as

> > > vargottama neecha.

> > > Remember the vargottama principle: a planet having

> > > the same sign in

> > > lagna chart as well as navamsa, attains status of

> > > exaltation. Do not

> > > attach any adjective to the sign as ucha, neech, sawa

> > > etc. - simply any sign".

> > >

> > > Please, make a comment on this...

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Diego

> > >

> > >

> > > --- Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream> wrote:

> > > > Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha!

> > > > ------------

> > > > Dear Diego & Sarajit,

> > > > Navamsa shows our inherited Dharma from Past life,

> > > > and

> > > > any weak planets in it, is very bad, and can nulify

> > > > any yogas. If a planet is in debilitated Vargottama,

> > > > then it can inhibit alot of things from happening..

> > > > Best wishes, Visti.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- Sarajit Poddar <sarajitp@h...> wrote:

> > > > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > > > Dear Diego!

> > > > >

> > > > > Atmakaraka neecha means lots of trouble in this

> > > > > life. If the neechabanga

> > > > > happens, then the native stands victorious and

> > > > > glorious after the troubles.

> > > > > Infact neecha AK shows that the life has to teach

> > > > a

> > > > > lot of lesson to him...

> > > > >

> > > > > Vargottama, infact increase the strength of the

> > > > > planet. However, the

> > > > > question here is that, whether it applies also to

> > > > > neecha planet also... I

> > > > > have not seen any author commented on the same

> > > > > excluding one, Pt.

> > > > > Ramakrishna Bhat in his book fundamentals of vedic

> > > > > astrology. There he said

> > > > > that vargottama of the neecha planet makes it much

> > > > > weaker. In my opinion

> > > > > Howeever if neechabhange happens to such planet,

> > > > it

> > > > > stands out to be very

> > > > > powerful to confer neechabhanga raja yoga.

> > > > >

> > > > > Any planet who is neecha in navamsa causes lots of

> > > > > trouble as it can nullify

> > > > > good yogas associated to the chart and also cause

> > > > > rajabhanga neecha yoga.

> > > > > That is why debilitated vargottama planet becomes

> > > > > weaker. However, weaker

> > > > > the planet becomes in neecha, the stronger the

> > > > > rajayoga becomes if there is

> > > > > neechabhanga.

> > > > >

> > > > > In fact I have Moon in Neecha Vargottama, with

> > > > > deadliest Rahu in the 12th

> > > > > from Dhanu Lagna... I am waiting for it to show

> > > > its

> > > > > colour...

> > > > >

> > > > > I would appreaciate other commenting on this....

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Sarajit

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > > <alkalay88>

> > > > > <vedic astrology>

> > > > > Saturday, October 13, 2001 3:07 AM

> > > > > [vedic astrology] ATMAKARAKA NEECH

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Dear friends

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Can anybody explaine

> > > > > > How to judge atmakaraka planet wich is

> > > > debilitated

> > > > > both in Rasi and

> > > > > > Navamsa chart ?

> > > > > > What is the rule for "vargottama neech" ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > Diego

> > > > >

> >

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Hare Rama Krishna

Dear Nimmi!

 

In one of my psychology classes, I studyied that, a person who has something

in oppulance, stop craving for it after some time and look for some higher

need. Generally this is known as Maslows need hierarchy theory. However some

others modify that and said that, one person can have craving for more need

which might be from different level of hierarchy, such as craving for god

(higher hierarchy) and craving for food or sex (lower hierarchy). I can

think that all the planets have both the higher level and lower level of

significations. If the planet is debilitated, it shows, starvation in that

regard and as a result show craving. However, when the same planet it

exalted, it tend to give the results of the state if all the basic needs

shown by the planet is fulfilled. Which is infact correct, we are most

likely to see exalted Venus or neechabhanga Venus in the horoscopes of

Saints, who have overcome the cravings of sex and passion and the opposite

is also true...

 

Thanks for sharing your thought....

 

Regards

Sarajit

 

-

"Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660

<vedic astrology>

Saturday, October 13, 2001 6:46 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] ATMAKARAKA NEECH

 

 

> Dear Sarajit,

>

> I have not seen Neecha/Neecha vargottama in charts of people whose life

> history I know. I have seen Neecha/Uchcha and Uchcha/Neecha though. I

> believe that Neecha/Uchcha is a form of neechabhanga in itself. Those with

> this have tended to make a success of their life in the area occupied by

> that graha often to their own surprise. Others have a better estimate of

> their abilities than they have themselves.

>

> On the other hand, those with the Uchcha/Neecha combination are constantly

> expecting to succeed, even unrealistically sometimes. This may be

different

> if there are other strong sources of neecha bhanga. But their ambitions

> almost always centre on the karakatwa of the planet in question. E.g.

Venus

> Uchcha/Neecha who wants to be in the acting industry. Similarly with

people

> whose planet is neecha without strong bhanga. I am not sure why. On the

> other hand, an Uchcha/Uchcha graha seems to almost take itself for

granted,

> and there may not be an intense interest in the area represented by that

> graha. E.g. venus uchcha vargottama, likes arts in general, but no strong

> interest in any of the areas indicated by venus - clothes, appearance,

> acting etc. Has an instinctive feel for good art, and an ability to point

> out where something has gone wrong. Same person with jupiter uchcha

> vargottama - no interest in being rich, no strong feeling of ownership of

> financial assets, no interest in being respected. But very ethical. This

> same person has mars and mercury in the 8th house - really the only bad

> placement in the chart. There is an almost obsessive interest in puzzles,

> wordgames, computing, a need to know everything, whether useful or not.

Was

> once reputed to have read the encyclopaedia brittanica while sick when

> young.

>

> This makes me wonder whether we, or perhaps those who are interested in

> developing further, pay attention to those areas of our lives that seem

> weak.

>

> This is just a thought.

>

> Nimmi

>

>

>

>

>

> -

> "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajitp

> <vedic astrology>

> Saturday, October 13, 2001 5:12 AM

> Re: [vedic astrology] ATMAKARAKA NEECH

>

>

> >

> > Hare Rama Krishna

> > Dear Diego!

> >

> > Atmakaraka neecha means lots of trouble in this life. If the neechabanga

> > happens, then the native stands victorious and glorious after the

> troubles.

> > Infact neecha AK shows that the life has to teach a lot of lesson to

> him...

> >

> > Vargottama, infact increase the strength of the planet. However, the

> > question here is that, whether it applies also to neecha planet also...

I

> > have not seen any author commented on the same excluding one, Pt.

> > Ramakrishna Bhat in his book fundamentals of vedic astrology. There he

> said

> > that vargottama of the neecha planet makes it much weaker. In my opinion

> > Howeever if neechabhange happens to such planet, it stands out to be

very

> > powerful to confer neechabhanga raja yoga.

> >

> > Any planet who is neecha in navamsa causes lots of trouble as it can

> nullify

> > good yogas associated to the chart and also cause rajabhanga neecha

yoga.

> > That is why debilitated vargottama planet becomes weaker. However,

weaker

> > the planet becomes in neecha, the stronger the rajayoga becomes if there

> is

> > neechabhanga.

> >

> > In fact I have Moon in Neecha Vargottama, with deadliest Rahu in the

12th

> > from Dhanu Lagna... I am waiting for it to show its colour...

> >

> > I would appreaciate other commenting on this....

> >

> > Regards

> > Sarajit

> >

> >

> > -

> > <alkalay88

> > <vedic astrology>

> > Saturday, October 13, 2001 3:07 AM

> > [vedic astrology] ATMAKARAKA NEECH

> >

> >

> > > Dear friends

> > >

> > > Can anybody explaine

> > > How to judge atmakaraka planet wich is debilitated both in Rasi and

> > > Navamsa chart ?

> > > What is the rule for "vargottama neech" ?

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Diego

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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