Guest guest Posted October 11, 2001 Report Share Posted October 11, 2001 DEAR SARAJIT i was actually telling Anand regarding the presence of guruc chandala yoga in my chart and next i recieved your mail. this is sheer coincidence. i was an atheist for many years. now also i do not believe in rituals and the like though i do believe in a spiritual force which helps us live better. thank you again for your advice. regards partha sarathy --- Sarajit Poddar <sarajitp wrote: > Hare Rama Krishna > Dear Partha! > > By now you might have got your mail on the > vedic astrology list. I just > noticed a coincidence.... > > You might notice that, the day when you asked me to > look at your horoscope > was yesterday (ruled by Mercury- lord of your > mantrapda) and the day which I > wrote the answer to your mail is ruled by Jupiter > (your amatyakara- > advisor). It is highly likely that you might not > take the advice seriously > due to guru-chandal yoga in your horoscope. However > you might be cautious > and also serious about the remedy - seeing this > divine coincidences of days > and the remedies. > > Regards > Sarajit > > - > "partha sarathy" <partvinu5 > <vedic astrology> > Wednesday, October 10, 2001 5:47 PM > [vedic astrology] dear sarajit and anand > thankyou > > > > dear sarajit, > > thank you for your observations. but i would like > to > > clarify a few points. since you are also a dhanu > lagna > > native and you have my chart what is your > observation > > on a badhaka being in lagna(mercury in 1st house) > > being aspected by jupiter through his ninth aspect > > from fifth. whose power would ultimately prevail i > am > > talking from a spiritual point of view. i would > like > > my jupiter to give better results than mercury who > is > > a fickle minded planet. i have already changed > three > > jobs. is it because of mercury's disposition. > though i > > must admit mercury is is exalted in navamsa lagna > but > > i have a sneaking suspicion thathe is spoiling my > > career. i was too good at studies and the results > in > > my career have so far been disappointing. could > you > > please help me to understand when i could come out > of > > this trouble. please do not misunderstand me . > > thank you and warm regards > > partha sarathy > > > > > > --- Sarajit Poddar <sarajitp wrote: > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > Dear Partha! > > > > > > As Anand said, your 3rd lord Saturn is placed in > the > > > 8th, Saturn is retrograde and placed in its own > > > navamsa. The dispositor, Moon is also well > placed in > > > the 10th. I don't see why saturn should be > > > considered weak here. > > > > > > The yoga is not very strong, however, you will > get > > > some results in the dasa of saturn as this is > > > aspected by Atmakaraka Sun from 12th. > > > > > > Regards > > > Sarajit > > > - > > > Anand > > > vedic astrology > > > Wednesday, October 10, 2001 1:55 PM > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: vipareeta > yoga > > > - some doubts + sample/challenge > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Partha Sarthy, > > > > > > Your 3rd house lord is in the 8th in D-1 > and > > > is retro. This wouldn't contribute much. But if > one > > > looks at your D-60 then 3rd in 6th (retro) and > 8th > > > in 3rd (with 1st & 4th lord who is retro) might > > > indicate a VRY. > > > Please do let me know if i am wrong. > > > Regards > > > K.Anand > > > > > > partha sarathy wrote: > > > > > > dear sarajit,now i understand the principles of > > > vry.could you please analyze the following chart > of > > > minefor any vry as you see i am also dhanu lagna > > > native.pob:delhitob:8 30 amdob: 15 12 1976warm > > > regardspartha sarathy--- Sarajit Poddar > > > <sarajitp wrote: > > > Hare Rama KrishnaDear Ron!The principles of the > VRY > > > (as taught by Pt. SanjayRath) are as follows:1. > Two > > > dusthana planet conjoing in a dusthana. > > > Theprecondition of a strong VYR of this nature > is > > > thatthe lords should be weak. When this happen > > > thesignifications of the dusthana suffer and the > > > nativegains from it. This mostly happens with > the > > > downfall of some of the native's enemies. > Moreover > > > therelations indicated by the planets naisargika > > > andchara karakatwa also suffer when the native > > > gainsfrom the VRY. Here consider 3rd house also > as > > > dusthana besides 6/8/12.2. Two dusthana lords > > > strongly placed in a kendra(or trikona) and no > other > > > planet conjoin them (insuch case there will be > > > transfer of power to thethird planet, whereby > the > > > karakatwa of the thirdplanet will gain). Here > the > > > planets involved shouldbe strongly placed unlike > the > > > 1st principle. In thiscase if the atmakaraka > > > or the lagna has associationwith VR Yogakaraka, > the > > > native will himself gainedotherwise the native > will > > > rise with rise of others.3. If the Karaka of > > > duthanas, Saturn is placed in adusthana-weak ( > or > > > kendra - strong) as a yogakaraka(Taurus, Libra > > > Lagna).There are other variations of this yoga; > > > accordingto Dr. BV Raman, a dusthana lord placed > in > > > another dusthana will constitute a VRY. However > I > > > donotthink that placement of the dusthana lord > in > > > theirown house can constitute VRY, they can only > if > > > thedusthana lord is conjoined with some other > > > dusthanalord. As Narasimha pointed out, the > dusthana > > > lordsplaced in their own house are some other > yogas > > > suchas Sarala or like...I will take up the > example > > > you have given later...However I find some yogas > in > > > my chart also. 1. My third lord Saturn is placed > in > > > the Kendra (7thGetting digbala)- however this is > not > > > so strong asSaturn is debilitated in > > > the Navamsa.2. 3rd Co-lord Rahu is joined with > 8th > > > lord Moon,both placed in the 12th. Moon is weak > > > beingdebilitated, Rahu is debilitated there > > > according tosome views. Moon is also in the > > > debilitated navamsa.3. 6th lord Venus is placed > in > > > the 8th in the houseof enemy and flanked by dire > > > malefics Saturn andSun-Mars-Merc from both sides > > > rendering is weak.This is rendered more weak as > the > > > dispositor Moon isin debilitated rasi and > navamsa4. > > > 12th co-lord Ketu is in 6th in Taurus. This > > > isdebilitated (according to some - however not > it > > > myopinion). The dispositor Venus is weak.5. 12th > > > lord Mars is in a trine in 9th. Mars isstrong as > it > > > is the atmakaraka and placed it its > ownnavamsa.Here > > > the yoga of Rahu and Moon will fuictify as > theyare > > > in the house of atmakaraka. Others will showsome > > > results depending on their strengths in > > > thedasa-antardasa.RegardsSarajit-- > === message truncated === Make a great connection at Personals. http://personals. 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Guest guest Posted October 11, 2001 Report Share Posted October 11, 2001 dear sarajit i was staying in visakhapatnam with my parents befor i got a job in hyderabad. at present I am working as research analyst at ICFAI at hyderabad(icfai.org).i stayed in delhi only for three years after my birth. partha --- Sarajit Poddar <sarajitp wrote: > Where you stay in Delhi and where you work? > > Sarajit > > - > "partha sarathy" <partvinu5 > "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajitp > Cc: <vedic astrology> > Thursday, October 11, 2001 12:09 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] dear sarajit > > > > DEAR SARAJIT > > i was actually telling Anand regarding the > presence of > > guruc chandala yoga in my chart and next i > recieved > > your mail. this is sheer coincidence. i was an > atheist > > for many years. now also i do not believe in > rituals > > and the like though i do believe in a spiritual > force > > which helps us live better. thank you again for > your > > advice. > > > > regards > > partha sarathy > > --- Sarajit Poddar <sarajitp wrote: > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > Dear Partha! > > > > > > By now you might have got your mail on the > > > vedic astrology list. I just > > > noticed a coincidence.... > > > > > > You might notice that, the day when you asked me > to > > > look at your horoscope > > > was yesterday (ruled by Mercury- lord of your > > > mantrapda) and the day which I > > > wrote the answer to your mail is ruled by > Jupiter > > > (your amatyakara- > > > advisor). It is highly likely that you might not > > > take the advice seriously > > > due to guru-chandal yoga in your horoscope. > However > > > you might be cautious > > > and also serious about the remedy - seeing this > > > divine coincidences of days > > > and the remedies. > > > > > > Regards > > > Sarajit > > > > > > - > > > "partha sarathy" <partvinu5 > > > <vedic astrology> > > > Wednesday, October 10, 2001 5:47 PM > > > [vedic astrology] dear sarajit and > anand > > > thankyou > > > > > > > > > > dear sarajit, > > > > thank you for your observations. but i would > like > > > to > > > > clarify a few points. since you are also a > dhanu > > > lagna > > > > native and you have my chart what is your > > > observation > > > > on a badhaka being in lagna(mercury in 1st > house) > > > > being aspected by jupiter through his ninth > aspect > > > > from fifth. whose power would ultimately > prevail i > > > am > > > > talking from a spiritual point of view. i > would > > > like > > > > my jupiter to give better results than mercury > who > > > is > > > > a fickle minded planet. i have already changed > > > three > > > > jobs. is it because of mercury's disposition. > > > though i > > > > must admit mercury is is exalted in navamsa > lagna > > > but > > > > i have a sneaking suspicion thathe is spoiling > my > > > > career. i was too good at studies and the > results > > > in > > > > my career have so far been disappointing. > could > > > you > > > > please help me to understand when i could come > out > > > of > > > > this trouble. please do not misunderstand me . > > > > thank you and warm regards > > > > partha sarathy > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Sarajit Poddar <sarajitp > wrote: > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > > > Dear Partha! > > > > > > > > > > As Anand said, your 3rd lord Saturn is > placed in > > > the > > > > > 8th, Saturn is retrograde and placed in its > own > > > > > navamsa. The dispositor, Moon is also well > > > placed in > > > > > the 10th. I don't see why saturn should be > > > > > considered weak here. > > > > > > > > > > The yoga is not very strong, however, you > will > > > get > > > > > some results in the dasa of saturn as this > is > > > > > aspected by Atmakaraka Sun from 12th. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Sarajit > > > > > - > > > > > Anand > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > Wednesday, October 10, 2001 1:55 PM > > > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: > vipareeta > > > yoga > > > > > - some doubts + sample/challenge > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Partha Sarthy, > > > > > > > > > > Your 3rd house lord is in the 8th in > D-1 > > > and > > > > > is retro. This wouldn't contribute much. But > if > > > one > > > > > looks at your D-60 then 3rd in 6th (retro) > and > > > 8th > > > > > in 3rd (with 1st & 4th lord who is retro) > might > > > > > indicate a VRY. > > > > > Please do let me know if i am wrong. > > > > > Regards > > > > > K.Anand > > > > > > > > > > partha sarathy wrote: > > > > > > > > > > dear sarajit,now i understand the principles > of > > > > > vry.could you please analyze the following > chart > > > of > > > > > minefor any vry as you see i am also dhanu > lagna > > > > > native.pob:delhitob:8 30 amdob: 15 12 > 1976warm > > > > > regardspartha sarathy--- Sarajit Poddar > > > > > <sarajitp wrote: > > > > > Hare Rama KrishnaDear Ron!The principles of > the > > > VRY > > > > > (as taught by Pt. SanjayRath) are as > follows:1. > > > Two > > > > > dusthana planet conjoing in a dusthana. > > > > > Theprecondition of a strong VYR of this > nature > > > is > > > > > thatthe lords should be weak. When this > happen > > > > > thesignifications of the dusthana suffer and > the > > > > > nativegains from it. This mostly happens > with > > > the > > > > > downfall of some of the native's enemies. > > > Moreover > > > > > therelations indicated by the planets > naisargika > > > > > andchara karakatwa also suffer when the > native > > > > > gainsfrom the VRY. Here consider 3rd house > also > === message truncated === Make a great connection at Personals. http://personals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2001 Report Share Posted October 31, 2001 dear sarajit brevity is the soul of writing. mercury for me is in lagna. for you saturn aspects the lagna. now even though you and i have the same lagna, you are expert in writing elaborate statements. you are infact very good at explaining. i am sorry but i like short statements. i believe that small drops make big ocean. writing long letters is not my style. you see i am very restless due to mercury.please do understand. regards partha --- Sarajit Poddar <sarajitp wrote: > Hare Rama Krsna > Dear Partha! > > When are you writing a mail, please be sure before > sending it, that you > don't wish to add something more. Its better to > write one mail and be > comprehensive than writing many mails. Also check, > that what is the value of > your mail for archieving. Please don't reply to > these as they may not be > useful to others. Just one small suggestion. > > Try to find the rational behind the taking lagna, > sun or moon in judging a > yoga. As I don't have much time, I won't elaborate > on it, however I would > give some cues. > > PanchaMahapurusha yoga becomes fruitful in very less > instances. Finding very > high order Panchamahapurusha yoga is infact very > rare. The native will enjoy > the fruits of Panchamahapurusha yoga when God is > with him. Think of Arjuna > when Lord Krishna left him.....He enjoyed only uptil > Krishna stayed with > him!!!! > > So the Satyapeetha in the Horoscope, mostly the > Lagna should be > exceptionally strong for Panchamahapurusha yoga to > take shape. The next > important indicator is the intiator of the yoga, the > Sun. With his energy > only, the yogas get the energy to express > themselves. Then only comes Moon, > who sustains the expression of the yoga as it > sustain the prana in the body > (or Aayu). A person having weak lagna but strong Sun > and Moon will make the > yoga express at very low level (minimal), however if > Sun is weak, the yoga > will not express at all, as the native lack the > soul(sun) force, or > determination. There is no question of Sustaining > the yoga (Moon being > strong), when the yoga has not expressed at > all....There are many more > indications that there should not be any malefic > influences on the yoga > etc.. etc.. to be studies from the standard > texts...If I get some time, I > would like to discuss this with some horoscopes. > > Reiterating again, getting good Pancha Mahapurusha > yoga is very rare. This > is how one should look into yoga and read between > line, what people like BV > Raman has written..... > > Regards > Sarajit > > - > <partvinu5 > <vedic astrology> > Wednesday, October 31, 2001 2:55 PM > [vedic astrology] Re: dear balaji your > chart > > > > > > dear balaji > > you are greedy anna. already you have bhadra, and > gaja kesari yogas. > > guru in lagna give you fantastic natur. now what > else do you need. ok > > rahu in 12th is not good, but haivng so many good > features is itself > > good. > > regards > > yours sleepingly > > 'partha > > > > vedic astrology, balaji srinivasan > <sri_balaji> > > wrote: > > > Dear Partha, > > > > > > Good that we are agreeing on this. Thanks to > Narahari > > > for his clarification. > > > > > > > > > I am also sad about the Trikona positions don't > > > contribute to PanchaMahapurusha Yoga. > > > > > > I have Budha in Kanya he is in Lagna (Mithuna) > Kendra. > > > Chandra is in Dhanus and Guru in Lagna. Kuja and > Kethu > > > are in Vrischik and Rahu in Rishaba. > > > > > > > > > Talking about Sani and Sukra they are in Kumbha > and > > > THula respectively. Now I could have had Sasa > and > > > Malavya yogas if Trikona is accepted :-(. > > > > > > > > > warm regards, > > > Balaji S. > > > > > > > > > --- partvinu5 wrote: > > > > > > > > dear narahari and balaji > > > > i do agree with your points. but trikona > positions > > > > are not taken into > > > > consideration for pancha mahapurusha yogas. > yes > > > > lagna and moon should > > > > be seen for pancha maha purusha , i was > probably > > > > sleeping for a > > > > moment. > > > > regards > > > > partha > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, balaji srinivasan > > > > <sri_balaji> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Dear Partha, > > > > > > > > > > True, From Moon also we can look for Yogas. > But > > > > > Panchamahapurusha yogas are also taken from > Lagna. > > > > > > > > > > Check the following site: > > > > > > > > > > > http://astrologydirah.hypermart.net/yoga's.htm > > > > > > > > > > The Site even mentions Trikona positions and > I am > > > > not > > > > > knowing if that was appropriate. > > > > > > > > > > I think B.V.Raman mentioned about Hitler's > Ruchaka > > > > > yoga in his book on famous 'horoscopes'. > > > > > > > > > > Please note that I am not debating here. It > is > > > > > essential in the spirit of Jyotish to get > these > > > > > clarified. I can be wrong and I am not > denying > > > > that. > > > > > After all, I didn't go through the source of > these > > > > > yogas as I read only translations. > > > > > > > > > > Look at the main point - Raja yogas can't > mean all > > > > > goodness. It is important to have correct > > > > freewill. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > warm regards, > > > > > Balaji S. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- partvinu5 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > dear balaji > > > > > > i am not here for an academic debate. > ruchaka > > > > yoga > > > > > > is formed when > > > > > > mars is in kendra from moon and is either > > > > exalted or > > > > > > in own house. > > > > > > now mars is in 5th from moon isn't it. > that > > > > doesnot > > > > > > qualify hitler to > > > > > > have ruchaka yoga. as you must be knowing > > > > ruchaka > > > > > > yoga is one of the > > > > > > five pancha mahapurusha yogas. > > > > > > namely > > > > > > 1)sasa(saturn > > > > > > 2)hamsa(jupiter > > > > > > 3)malavya(venus > > > > > > 4)ruchaka(mars > > > > > > 5)bhadra(mercury > === message truncated === Make a great connection at Personals. http://personals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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