Guest guest Posted October 1, 2001 Report Share Posted October 1, 2001 Namaste to all group members, I have little knowledge of jyotish....please excuse me for any mistakes.... I believe actual character of an individual can be identified by looking at lagna & characterstics ,placement ,conjuctions & aspects of the lagna lord...as well as placement ,conjuctions & aspects of sun & the moon which represent the soul & mind.... SO my ques is how this theory can be actually implemented...for eg. a person with lagnesh (jupiter)in 5 bhava (Asc. Sagg.)along with ketu..with mars & mercury being posited..in the lagna..chandra in sixth house(exalted)& sun in second house...being aspected by saturn(sat. in 8 house) house wise location.. Rasi chart house planets rasi 1-- mars,mer. (9) 2-- sun (10) 3-- (11) 4-- ven (12) 5-- jup.,ketu (1) 6-- moon (2) 7-- (3) 8-- sat. (4) 9-- (5) 10-- (6) 11-- rahu (7) 12-- (8) Navamsa house planets rasi 1-- mars,jup. (9) 2-- sat. (10) 3-- moon (11) 4-- (12) 5-- (1) 6-- sun,ketu (2) 7-- (3) 8-- ven (4) 9-- (5) 10-- (6) 11-- mer. (7) 12-- rahu (8) How can & how much can we get to know about the person by looking at the data given above .. Please explain the person's character & characterstics based on the above data. this comes from a person i know very well ....& its interpretation will help me a great deal to understand the implementation of the above said theory. I hope respected gurus & other learned people will help me understand the intricacies of this mystical science. Thanking you in anticipation Akshay vedic astrology [vedic astrology] Sunday, September 30, 2001 3:57 PM vedic astrology [vedic astrology] Digest Number 560 ------ There are 17 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Re: Attn PV N Rao :Lagnesh Jup in 6th. Mars,Venus,Pluto Mercury (exalted) in 10th. vishalkelkar 2. Re: Re: Attn PV N Rao :Lagnesh Jup in 6th. Mars,Venus,Pluto Mercury (exalted) in 10th. Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream 3. Jaya Shekhar "Anton Kuznetsov AKA Vedavrata" <tony 4. Venus in the 12th charts 3 examples "Alex J" <lostinmotion 5. Re: Venus in 12th exact chart - born 7 days before, + 2 similar cases "Doug Riemer" <vedic 6. Re: Combinations for astrologers ron 7. Re: Combinations for astrologer "J.K.Dasgupta" <jkdasgupta_in 8. Re: To stop thieves/cheats Sally <sara 9. Re: Re: Is saturn really a malefic? Sally <sara 10. Resending: Marriage delay...... why?? dost_1 11. Re: Venus in 12th exact chart - born 7 days before, + 2 similar cases "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660 12. Re: Venus in 12th "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660 13. Re: I don't know How to study South Indian Charts sridhar k <kopparsa 14. Re: Jaya Shekhar GWBrennan 15. Re: I don't know How to study South Indian Charts "Venkateshwara A Reddy" <venkateshwara_reddy 16. Re: Resending: Marriage delay...... why?? Sally <sara 17. RE: Re: I don't know How to study South Indian Charts "Narayan rao PVKL - CTD, Chennai." <pvklnrao ______________________ ______________________ Message: 1 Sat, 29 Sep 2001 14:16:20 -0000 vishalkelkar Re: Attn PV N Rao :Lagnesh Jup in 6th. Mars,Venus,Pluto Mercury (exalted) in 10th. Does it mean that if I don't loose by middle Oct i will be safe....? please reply urgently regards Vishal vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <in_joy_i_scream> wrote: > Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha! > ---------------- > Dear Vishal, > Lagna lord in 6th usually produces a person who will triumf in competition > and over his enemies.. this is a good combination. Especially if 3rd lord is > involved as well as 6th, as this produces Dhimantah Yoga, and gives an > excellent researcher/scientist. > > Your Lagna Lord; Jupiter is in Taurus, where it recieves Rasi Dristi from > 3rd lords Saturn & Rahu. So this yoga is fortunate for research. > > Predictions about carreer are best done from Dasamsa(D-10). I've given Your > Rasi, Navamsa and Dasamsa along with Vimshottari Dasa's at the end of the > message. > > Your Dasamsa Lagna is Sag, occupied by Moon. The 8th has Venus and the 9th > has Ketu and Saturn. Saturn is in exchange with Sun, so Saturn acts like > lord of 9th. > > The current Vimshottari Dasa period is of; Venus-Ketu. Ketu lords scorpio > the 12th house, and joins Saturn. Ketu becomes very malefic when joining > Saturn and may indicate problems regarding employer(9th). Your company maybe > sacking alot of people, and contracts/promisses(Upapada is in 8th with > venus) will be broken. > > You'll know whether you'll lose the job or not by the middle of october, as > your going through the PratyAntar Dasa of Venus, placed in 8th until then. > > Regular worship of Sri Krishna will keep you and your family safe, from > troubles. > > Make sure you give us feedback about your job status. > Hope this helps. > Best wishes, Visti. > > > Date of Birth: September 2, 1976 > Time of Birth: 1:55:00 pm > Time Zone of Birth: 5:30 East of GMT > Longitude of Birth: 74 E 38 > Latitude of Birth: 16 N 05 > > +----------------------+ > | | | | | > | | HL | | | > | GL | | Jup | | > | | Ket | | | > | | | | | > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| > | | | | > | | | | > | | | Sat | > | | | | > | | | | > |-------------| R A S I |-------------| > | | | | > | | | | > | | | Sun | > | | | | > | | | | > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| > | Moo | | Glk | Ven | > | | | | | > | Asc | | Mnd | Mar | > | | | | | > | BL | | Rah | Mer | > +----------------------+ > > +----------------------+ > | | | | | > | Jup | Mar Mer | | | > | | | HL | | > | Ven | Moo Asc | | | > | | | | | > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| > | | | | > | | | Ket | > | | | | > | | | BL | > | | | | > |-------------| N A V A M S A |-------------| > | | | | > | Mnd | | | > | | | Sun | > | Rah | | | > | | | | > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| > | | | | | > | Sat | | | | > | | | Glk | | > | GL | | | | > | | | | | > +----------------------+ > > > Vimsottari Dasa: > > Ketu 1976-09-02 Sun 1977-04-04 Moon 1977-08-10 Mars 1978-03-11 > Rahu 1978-08-07 Jupi 1979-08-25 Satu 1980-07-31 Merc > 1981-09-09 > Venu 1982-09-06 Sun 1986-01-06 Moon 1987-01-06 Mars 1988-09-06 Rahu > 1989-11-06 > Jupi 1992-11-06 Satu 1995-07-08 Merc 1998-09-06 Ketu > 2001-07-07 > Sun 2002-09-06 Moon 2002-12-25 Mars 2003-06-26 Rahu 2003-10-31 Jupi > 2004-09-24 > Satu 2005-07-13 Merc 2006-06-25 Ketu 2007-05-02 Venu > 2007-09-07 > > > +----------------------+ > | | | | | > | Jup | | | | > | | GL | HL | | > | BL | | | | > | | | | | > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| > | | | | > | | | | > | Rah | | Ven | > | | | | > | | | | > |-------------| D - 1 0 |-------------| > | | | | > | Sun | | Ket | > | | | | > | Mnd | | Sat | > | | | | > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| > | | | | | > | Moo | | | Mar | > | | | Glk | | > | Asc | | | Mer | > | | | | | > +----------------------+ ______________________ ______________________ Message: 2 Sat, 29 Sep 2001 08:22:17 -0700 (PDT) Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream Re: Re: Attn PV N Rao :Lagnesh Jup in 6th. Mars,Venus,Pluto Mercury (exalted) in 10th. Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha! ----- Dear Vishal, Worship Your Palana Devata; Krishna, throughout the Venus PratyAntar which ends 11th October 2001. After that, Sun's PratyAntar Runs which is in the 11th from Arudha Lagna in Rasi and 2nd from Dasamsa Lagna in Dasamsa, hence giving gains and stability, but not without worry.. in any case don't worry. Best wishes, Visti. --- vishalkelkar wrote: > Does it mean that if I don't loose by middle Oct i > will be safe....? > > please reply urgently > > regards > Vishal > > vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" > <in_joy_i_scream> > wrote: > > Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha! > > ---------------- > > Dear Vishal, > > Lagna lord in 6th usually produces a person who > will triumf in > competition > > and over his enemies.. this is a good combination. > Especially if > 3rd lord is > > involved as well as 6th, as this produces > Dhimantah Yoga, and gives > an > > excellent researcher/scientist. > > > > Your Lagna Lord; Jupiter is in Taurus, where it > recieves Rasi > Dristi from > > 3rd lords Saturn & Rahu. So this yoga is fortunate > for research. > > > > Predictions about carreer are best done from > Dasamsa(D-10). I've > given Your > > Rasi, Navamsa and Dasamsa along with Vimshottari > Dasa's at the end > of the > > message. > > > > Your Dasamsa Lagna is Sag, occupied by Moon. The > 8th has Venus and > the 9th > > has Ketu and Saturn. Saturn is in exchange with > Sun, so Saturn acts > like > > lord of 9th. > > > > The current Vimshottari Dasa period is of; > Venus-Ketu. Ketu lords > scorpio > > the 12th house, and joins Saturn. Ketu becomes > very malefic when > joining > > Saturn and may indicate problems regarding > employer(9th). Your > company maybe > > sacking alot of people, and > contracts/promisses(Upapada is in 8th > with > > venus) will be broken. > > > > You'll know whether you'll lose the job or not by > the middle of > october, as > > your going through the PratyAntar Dasa of Venus, > placed in 8th > until then. > > > > Regular worship of Sri Krishna will keep you and > your family safe, > from > > troubles. > > > > Make sure you give us feedback about your job > status. > > Hope this helps. > > Best wishes, Visti. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date of Birth: September 2, 1976 > > Time of Birth: 1:55:00 pm > > Time Zone of Birth: 5:30 East of GMT > > Longitude of Birth: 74 E 38 > > Latitude of Birth: 16 N 05 > > > > > +----------------------+ > > | | | | > | > > | | HL | | > | > > | GL | | Jup | > | > > | | Ket | | > | > > | | | | > | > > > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| > > | | | > | > > | | | > | > > | | | > Sat | > > | | | > | > > | | | > | > > |-------------| R A S I > |-------------| > > | | | > | > > | | | > | > > | | | > Sun | > > | | | > | > > | | | > | > > > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| > > | Moo | | Glk | Ven > | > > | | | | > | > > | Asc | | Mnd | > Mar | > > | | | | > | > > | BL | | Rah | > Mer | > > > +----------------------+ > > > > > +----------------------+ > > | | | | > | > > | Jup | Mar Mer | | > | > > | | | HL | > | > > | Ven | Moo Asc | | > | > > | | | | > | > > > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| > > | | | > | > > | | | Ket > | > > | | | > | > > | | | > BL | > > | | | > | > > |-------------| N A V A M S A > |-------------| > > | | | > | > > | Mnd | | > | > > | | | > Sun | > > | Rah | | > | > > | | | > | > > > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| > > | | | | > | > > | Sat | | | > | > > | | | Glk | > | > > | GL | | | > | > > | | | | > | > > > +----------------------+ > > > > > > Vimsottari Dasa: > > > > Ketu 1976-09-02 Sun 1977-04-04 Moon 1977-08-10 > Mars 1978-03-11 > > Rahu 1978-08-07 Jupi 1979-08-25 > Satu 1980-07-31 > === message truncated === Listen to your Mail messages from any phone. http://phone. ______________________ ______________________ Message: 3 Sat, 29 Sep 2001 16:22:13 -0000 "Anton Kuznetsov AKA Vedavrata" <tony Jaya Shekhar Pranam, dear friends, who knows e-mail address of Prof. Jaya Shekhar ji? Namaste Anton Kuznetsov Om Gurave Namaha ______________________ ______________________ Message: 4 Sat, 29 Sep 2001 17:40:22 +0000 "Alex J" <lostinmotion Venus in the 12th charts 3 examples Dear Jitendra and Visti, Here are the three charts. Girl 1 has a very accurate time that was recorded. I believe it is hospital. She doesn't have Venus in the 12th, yet the combination of Venus/Mars/Rahu/Moon are in the 12th house from A7 conjoined debilitated A7 lord. Girl 2 has a time that is an estimation, within half an hour either way. She has had the most sexual partners out of the group. She has also been sexually abused by father and paternal uncle. She lacks all morals in regards to sex. Her only fear is in getting caught. A7 has papargala from debilitated 9th lord sun, conjoined Mars and Rahu, showing the unwanted encounters with father. Many men have also pressured her into sexual encounters. Girl 3 is confident of her time, but it is from her mother's memory. She has had the least amount of partners, and has moral standards in regards to sex. She also in religious naturally stays away from immoral actions. However she has had an older man force himself onto her when she was drunk, and has had numerous people attempt to trick her into sex. She has had an abusive boyfriend, and was nearly raped by 5 men. A7 is in Pisces with Ketu, which has tempered her sexual needs. best regards, Alex J _______________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp [This message contained attachments] ______________________ ______________________ Message: 5 Sat, 29 Sep 2001 18:05:52 -0000 "Doug Riemer" <vedic Re: Venus in 12th exact chart - born 7 days before, + 2 similar cases Yes, I agree. Rahu/Mars in most placements brings abuse for women, and considering this placement is the 12th with fallen 1st and 8th ruler Venus, the abuse can bring a major catastrophy to her body. Perhaps, considering the Dasas and transits, she experiences a virulent and infectuous sexual disease from the abuse due to Rahu (toxicity) and Mars (infectous disease) ruling 2 marakas. doug riemer vedic astrology, "Alex J" <lostinmotion@h...> wrote: > Dear Murali, > > Sometimes in cases like this it is not necessarily that the person in > sexually immoral. Often they are abused sexually against their will. > If what Visti said is the case, and the navamsa does not show sexual > proclivities, then another explanation for the position must be > looked into. In Navamsa 8th from AL holds the Mars/Venus/Mercury > combination in a Venusian sign, which indicates unwanted sexual > difficulties, although aspect of exalted Jupiter provides relief. The > 4th from Lagnamsa also shows sexual activities as it shows the place > of sex. In the 7th from UL in navamsa, this combination shows > obstruction to marriage due to these sexual matters. > > I have two charts of girls with Venus in Scorpio in the 12th house. > The first girl has the aspect of Mars from Cancer. She was nearly > raped by 5 young men in the US, and has suffered physical abuse from > a evil boyfriend. She has also been taken advantage of in a drunken > state, and had an older man force himself onto her. The first girl > has average sexual morals. She has strong sexual desires, but they > are held in check, perhaps by Jupiter and Ketu in Saggitarius > navamsa. Mars is in Sag, and Venus in Pisces. > > The second girl has suffered sexual abuse from the father and uncle. > However morally she is much worse, and she has run most of the Venus > cycle. She has had sexual encounters with at least 50 men, several > women, and sometimes 2 men at a time. In her chart Venus is in Leo > navamsa aspected by Mars, Saturn and Rahu from Capricorn. Navamsa > lagna is not determined. > > As a comparison, I have a chart given to me with the following > information. She was born about 7 days before your example. She had > sex for the first time at the age of 12, has had many sexual > partners, and is bisexual and has expressed desires to join orgies. > She has also taken drugs, beginning in the Rahu dasa, and continuing > into Jupiter. She mixes many different types of drugs. She has not > been able to hold any successful relationships for more than a few > months. > > The navamsa Mars, Venus and Moon aspecting the 2nd house, as well as > the position of Mercury, Saturn, show her strong desires. > > best regards, > > Alex J > > Girl born 7 days before > +----------------------+ > | | | | | > | | | | | > | Ket | | HL | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| > | | | Jup | > | | | | > | | | GL | > | | | | > | | | Sun | > |-------------| R A S I |-------------| > | | | | > | | | Sat | > | | | | > | | | MerR | > | | | | > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| > | | | | | > | Asc | | Glk | Rah Ven | > | | | | | > | BL | | Mnd | Mar Moo | > | | | | | > +----------------------+ > > +----------------------+ > | HL | | | | > | | | | Sat | > | Ven | | Asc | | > | | | | MerR | > | Mar | | | | > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| > | | | | > | Sun | | | > | | | Jup | > | Rah | | | > | | | | > |-------------| N A V A M S A |-------------| > | | | | > | | | BL | > | Mnd | | | > | | | Ket | > | | | | > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| > | | | | | > | | | GL | | > | | | | Moo | > | | | Glk | | > | | | | | > +----------------------+ > > 2nd girl abused by father and paternal uncle. See debilitated Sun > with Mars and Rahu in 2nd from A7 and UL. Slept with over 50 men. > +----------------------+ > | | | | | > | | HL | | | > | | | JupR | | > | | Ket | | | > | | | | | > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| > | | | | > | | | Sat | > | | | | > | | | Moo | > | | | | > |-------------| R A S I |-------------| > | | | | > | BL | | | > | | | | > | GL | | | > | | | | > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| > | | Ven | Sun | | > | | | | | > | Asc | Glk | Rah | Mer | > | | | | | > | | Mnd | Mar | | > +----------------------+ > > Navamsa lagna unknown > +----------------------+ > | | | | HL | > | | | | | > | Moo | | | Mer | > | | | | | > | | | | Asc | > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| > | | | | > | JupR | | Ket | > | | | | > | BL | | GL | > | | | | > |-------------| N A V A M S A |-------------| > | Sat | | | > | | | | > | Rah | | Ven | > | | | | > | Mar | | | > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| > | | | | | > | | | | | > | | Mnd | Sun | Glk | > | | | | | > | | | | | > +----------------------+ > > 1st girl, forced into sex by older man, sexual morals are regulated, > due to Ketu's exalted aspect in navamsa on Venus and Mars. > > +----------------------+ > | | | | | > | | | | | > | Ket | | Moo | JupR | > | | | | | > | | | | | > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| > | | | | > | | | | > | | | MarR | > | | | | > | | | | > |-------------| R A S I |-------------| > | | | | > | | | | > | | | SatR | > | | | | > | | | | > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| > | | | | | > | BL Asc | Mnd GL | | | > | | | Glk | Rah | > | MerR Sun | HL Ven | | | > | | | | | > +----------------------+ > > Navamsa lagna undetermined. > +----------------------+ > | | Glk | | SatR | > | | | | | > | Ven | BL | MerR | Rah | > | | | | | > | | Asc | | Sun | > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| > | | | | > | Moo | | | > | | | Mnd | > | HL | | | > | | | | > |-------------| N A V A M S A |-------------| > | | | | > | | | | > | | | | > | | | | > | | | | > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| > | JupR | | | | > | | | | | > | MarR | | GL | | > | | | | | > | Ket | | | | > +----------------------+ ______________________ ______________________ Message: 6 29 Sep 2001 11:10:43 -0700 ron Re: Combinations for astrologers Om Krishna Guru --------------- Respected Sanjay Ji, Pranaam: I humbly bow down at your feet and thank you for the blessings and compliments. Coming from world's greatest Vedic Jyotish [you], your compliments are nothing less than divine blessings. Sanjay Ji... I am not brilliant; I am just a humble shishya of your parampara...albeit a satellite shisya if you will [as I have not applied for a Guruji at SJVC]. I will do that; once my current difficulties and struggles are over. However... Let me thank yourself as well as Narasimha Ji and all the Guruji(s) at SJVC for the excellent and free service you all provide for everyone. Despite having joined your group *only* since February 26, 2001, I have already read all the posts, articles, and newsletters. Besides, you have some gems at your list --- namely Visti Larsen and several others. Visti and I have had countless...what I would like to term as "Satsang" and our time-zones and routines end up in us being simultaneously online. If my predictions are sharp and hit the bull's eye; it is mainly a gift from your parampara and people like Visti [who enthusiastically picks at me until I get things right. LOL :-D]. He [Visti] is a great pioneer and is rather very fast at grasping and explaining Vedic Jyotisha concepts. My sincere gratitude to him for his helping hand. Now on to other issues [for the benefit of novice/amateur as your knowledge is above us all :-)]: 1) Shastyamsa: I am well aware that your Shastyamsa is correctly rectified and therefore concentrated on that... [Note: Thanks for validating what I saw...I already knew but did not want to go into that; which is why I mentioned in my previous mail "I will avoid going into Shastyamsa at this stage"]. 2) Chaturvimsamsa: Mars, Saturn, Rahu, and Ketu all have aspects on your 5th house in Chaturvimsamsa [D-24]. You already have one great student/follower - Narasimha Ji [Mars]. The problems I saw from followers were related to Rahu [and to a certain extent; retrograde Saturn]. However, mostly; it will be some Shady/Evil characters [Rahu] who will have desire to learn from you [but may not succeed --- Graha Dristi]. Ketu's Dristi also signifies some very spiritual followers :-) 3) Atma Karaka's relationship to 11th: You have this in more than one vargaas! a) Rasi b) Navamsa c) Chaturthamsa [Graha Dristi] d) Panchamsa [Graha + Rasi Dristi] e) Saptamsa [Graha Dristi] f) Dasamsa [Rasi Dristi] (and of course Sun in 8th) g) Rudramsa [Rasi Dristi] h) Vimsamsa [Graha Dristi] i) Chaturvimsamsa j) Nakshatramsa [Rasi Dristi] k) Trimsamsa [Graha + Rasi Dristi] Of course...each Vargaa represents different things, [fine-tuning of events] and the relation between AK and 11th house in Vargaas do not necessarily mean Jyotisha or related analysis. Therefore; it is up to the novice and amateurs at this list to try and attempt as to what each Vargaa would yeild [with relation to Atma Karaka]. 4) My own chart: Sanjay Ji... There is no evident relationship between my Atma Karaka [sun] and 11th house. However, my chart is rather tricky in several ways and requires a keen eye like yours to analyze. I believe that couple of weeks ago; I provided my chart or birth time and wrote that "Shastyamsa is correctly rectified". On second thoughts, and after observing my Dasamsa in these last few days, I am doubtful that my rectification process is over: Reasons: Birth Time = 04:26:45 AM 1) Jupiter in 6th house of Dasamsa - This cannot be possible; as I am an entreprenuer [mostly throughout my life until now], and the three jobs that I had...ended in all the Chairman/Presidents and myself having mutual feelings of "end of the road". LOL 2) Sun in 9th house of Dasamsa - Again this cannot be possible. Although I am an amateur astronomer [study of heavens], but considering my deep interest for Jyotish and occult sciences, the Dasamsa sure gets tricky as the Sun should be in 8th and Jupiter in 5th. Therefore, a correction of Vargaa borders yeilds 04:28:30 AM [approximately]. 3) Saptamsa: My Saptamsa is extremely tricky and has a parivartana yoga that would go unnoticed by most untrained eyes. In any case... Thank you for your compliments and encouragement and if at all possible; I would like to frequently correspond with you. In the meantime...if there is anything you want me to do, I am always at your disposal. With that... Please give my best regards to all your loved ones ever and you take care too. Om Namo Narayana Kind regards and best wishes, Ron [Your Humble Shishya] P.s.: I have already attached both of my charts [different rectification] for your reference. > vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" <srath@v...> wrote: > > Om Gurave Namah > -------------------------- > Dear Ron, You are simply brilliant. hit the bulls eye this time. Actually the problem started in my past life as per a Nadi reading for my wife. I happened to be another Jyotish then also and she was a dancer and much attracted to the pleasures. i was supposed to reform her as her Guru and instead 'SHE REFORMED ME !!!". Well, that relationship and trouble come from past life. > aspect of saturn R shows the anger of a great saintly person like Narada Muni (must have been my Guru who would have been totally disgusted with what happened) and in this life I am very careful. yes, i am a bit afraid about taking female students.. it is a psychologicval problem that took some time to get over. perhaps the childhood stuff that women need not be taught this or that.. but then my mother was very modern in her views. so, your reading is right. > Best Wishes > Sanjay Rath > - > <ron@i...> > <vedic astrology> > Wednesday, September 26, 2001 10:34 PM > [vedic astrology] Re: Combinations for astrologers > > > > Respected Sanjay Ji, Pranaam: > > > > Very good point and I agree with this simple assessment. > > > > In your chart, Saturn is the Atma Karaka and placed in 11th house > > [Rasi Chart]. > > > > Now as most of us are aware... > > > > 7th from Atma Karaka shows the soul's desire. Thus, the focus is on > > your fifth house [with Sun and Venus --- denoting Jyotish and > > Ayurveda and very good]. > > > > However, Saturn is retrograde [showing corrections and re-doing > from > > past karma]. > > > > The Shastyamsa; is the best place for studying past karma and for > > those of us who are novice and amateur, I would like to add that > > Shastyamsa is probably the easiest chart to read [with regards to > > Chara Karakas and related]...provided we are sure that the > Shastyamsa > > is correctly rectified. > > > > Anyway...I shall avoid going into Shastyamsa at this stage, but > with > > all due respect, I think you will have some problems from your > > followers [however, I could be wrong as I am merely a humble > > student]. > > > > Please forgive me if I have over-stepped my boundaries and in that > > case please accept my sincere apologies. > > > > But since your chart depicts Sri Rama Avatar, I could not resist > but > > make this post following your highlighting the 11th house and Atma > > Karaka :-) > > > > I also apologize to Narasimha Ji for the bandwidth usage of this > > message and hope that I have shed some useful light with regards to > > this thread. > > > > With that... > > > > Please give my best regards to all your loved ones ever and you > [all] > > take care too. > > > > Om Namo Narayana > > > > Kind regards and best wishes from > > > > Ron [This message contained attachments] ______________________ ______________________ Message: 7 Sun, 30 Sep 2001 02:21:55 +0530 "J.K.Dasgupta" <jkdasgupta_in Re: Combinations for astrologer Resepected Sanjayji, Pranam. Your comments on my attempt of the leeson 1 (Atma karaka) for the other group is a great boost to me. Regarding my chart - I am putting down my analysis of BT rectification. I shall post the chart with rectified time and my analysis at the earliest. Best regards, Dasgupta - Sanjay Rath vedic astrology Saturday, September 29, 2001 2:59 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Combinations for astrologer Om Gurave Namah -------------------------- Dear Dasgupta, attach your jhd file to the mail and let us see. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath - J.K.Dasgupta <jkdasgupta_in <vedic astrology> Thursday, September 27, 2001 12:59 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Combinations for astrologer Respected Sanjayji, Pranam. As per haspital card - my birth details are 16.03/15.9.47/Calcutta giving Capricorn Lagna. But I think my birth time should be 16.22 which gives Aquarious lagna and events of my life, no of brothers, birth of child etc. are better explained considering Aquarious lagna. With Aquarious, my 11th lord Jupiter is Atmakaraka and is in 9th - Libra. During Jup mahadasa I realy faced lot of trouble, though I gained much as far as knowledge is concerned. Best regards, Dasgupta [This message contained attachments] ______________________ ______________________ Message: 8 Fri, 28 Sep 2001 21:24:53 -1000 Sally <sara Re: To stop thieves/cheats Dear Jagmeet, Some good points you mention. All have validity, the incorporation date especially. We cannot change the destiny of others. We can change our own. As an employee gandharva music could be played low or in the background to enhance Natural Law. Best wishes. Sally > preetmohinder s dhaliwal wrote: > > Dear friends, > I would like some help. This would be more of a remedial measure. > There is a chain of 6 Check Cash stores. They are being hit by > counterfeiters with counterfeit checks,thieves with stolen checks,and > people who want to cheat them ,quiet often.(In fact all check cashing > places are hit by them)Some times they are able to catch them and > sometimes not. > This is such a business where there will always be thieves coming like > the proverbial bear to the beehive. > My question is > a)Will manager's stars be affecting this loss to the business as he is > the person who is making the decision at the spot and if it is, will > it be because of his birth stars or from the chart for date and time > of joining the store? > b)Will it be the stars of the owner?(It is an incorporated business > with owner as the Managing Director and he has 6 stores) > c)Will it be for the Incorporation chart of the business? > e)Will Vastu of the stores be the cause of this?(Five of his stores > face east or north east and one NWW)His house faces west. > d)Can anyone(owner/employee) perform the remedial measures? > > They do try to follow the checklist but sometimes MAYA covers their > eyes and they make bad decisions. > On some site I had found remedial measure once for the above problem > but I never noted it down and now I can't find it. > Thanking everyone in advance, > Jagmeet > > > Sponsor > > [image] > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > ______________________ ______________________ Message: 9 Fri, 28 Sep 2001 21:29:02 -1000 Sally <sara Re: Re: Is saturn really a malefic? Hello Aileena, Sade Sati is the term used for when Saturn transits the house before in and after the Moon in the natal chart. Sally aileena69 wrote: > > vedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajitp@h...> wrote: > << During 7.5 years if Sade-sati the native has some most difficult > experiences >> > > Hi, > > What is Sade-sati? When does this occur in a chart? thank you. > > Aileena > > Sponsor > > Start here... > > Height: > ft in > > Weight: > lbs. kg. > > > > [image] > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > ______________________ ______________________ Message: 10 Sat, 29 Sep 2001 22:59:01 -0000 dost_1 Resending: Marriage delay...... why?? > Hi Everyone, > > I was trying to analyse this horoscope to find out the possible time > of marriage and the reason for the delay. I am not really confident > about my findings .. and am at a total loss to explain the delay. > > The horoscope details are ... > date of birth - 28th Dec, 1970 > time of birth - 5:06 am (Time zone 5:30 hrs) > place of birth - Long:76E32 Lat:27N06 (India) > > I would appreciate any help on this. > > Regards. > -Sumit ______________________ ______________________ Message: 11 Sun, 30 Sep 2001 01:36:45 +0100 "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660 Re: Venus in 12th exact chart - born 7 days before, + 2 similar cases In the first two cases, saturn aspect/associates 7th lord mercury and rahu aspects/associates venus. In the third case, neither of these is true. - "Alex J" <lostinmotion <vedic astrology> Friday, September 28, 2001 10:46 PM [vedic astrology] Venus in 12th exact chart - born 7 days before, + 2 similar cases > > Dear Murali, > > Sometimes in cases like this it is not necessarily that the person in > sexually immoral. Often they are abused sexually against their will. > If what Visti said is the case, and the navamsa does not show sexual > proclivities, then another explanation for the position must be > looked into. In Navamsa 8th from AL holds the Mars/Venus/Mercury > combination in a Venusian sign, which indicates unwanted sexual > difficulties, although aspect of exalted Jupiter provides relief. The > 4th from Lagnamsa also shows sexual activities as it shows the place > of sex. In the 7th from UL in navamsa, this combination shows > obstruction to marriage due to these sexual matters. > > I have two charts of girls with Venus in Scorpio in the 12th house. > The first girl has the aspect of Mars from Cancer. She was nearly > raped by 5 young men in the US, and has suffered physical abuse from > a evil boyfriend. She has also been taken advantage of in a drunken > state, and had an older man force himself onto her. The first girl > has average sexual morals. She has strong sexual desires, but they > are held in check, perhaps by Jupiter and Ketu in Saggitarius > navamsa. Mars is in Sag, and Venus in Pisces. > > The second girl has suffered sexual abuse from the father and uncle. > However morally she is much worse, and she has run most of the Venus > cycle. She has had sexual encounters with at least 50 men, several > women, and sometimes 2 men at a time. In her chart Venus is in Leo > navamsa aspected by Mars, Saturn and Rahu from Capricorn. Navamsa > lagna is not determined. > > As a comparison, I have a chart given to me with the following > information. She was born about 7 days before your example. She had > sex for the first time at the age of 12, has had many sexual > partners, and is bisexual and has expressed desires to join orgies. > She has also taken drugs, beginning in the Rahu dasa, and continuing > into Jupiter. She mixes many different types of drugs. She has not > been able to hold any successful relationships for more than a few > months. > > The navamsa Mars, Venus and Moon aspecting the 2nd house, as well as > the position of Mercury, Saturn, show her strong desires. > > best regards, > > Alex J > > Girl born 7 days before > +----------------------+ > | | | | | > | | | | | > | Ket | | HL | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| > | | | Jup | > | | | | > | | | GL | > | | | | > | | | Sun | > |-------------| R A S I |-------------| > | | | | > | | | Sat | > | | | | > | | | MerR | > | | | | > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| > | | | | | > | Asc | | Glk | Rah Ven | > | | | | | > | BL | | Mnd | Mar Moo | > | | | | | > +----------------------+ > > +----------------------+ > | HL | | | | > | | | | Sat | > | Ven | | Asc | | > | | | | MerR | > | Mar | | | | > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| > | | | | > | Sun | | | > | | | Jup | > | Rah | | | > | | | | > |-------------| N A V A M S A |-------------| > | | | | > | | | BL | > | Mnd | | | > | | | Ket | > | | | | > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| > | | | | | > | | | GL | | > | | | | Moo | > | | | Glk | | > | | | | | > +----------------------+ > > 2nd girl abused by father and paternal uncle. See debilitated Sun > with Mars and Rahu in 2nd from A7 and UL. Slept with over 50 men. > +----------------------+ > | | | | | > | | HL | | | > | | | JupR | | > | | Ket | | | > | | | | | > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| > | | | | > | | | Sat | > | | | | > | | | Moo | > | | | | > |-------------| R A S I |-------------| > | | | | > | BL | | | > | | | | > | GL | | | > | | | | > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| > | | Ven | Sun | | > | | | | | > | Asc | Glk | Rah | Mer | > | | | | | > | | Mnd | Mar | | > +----------------------+ > > Navamsa lagna unknown > +----------------------+ > | | | | HL | > | | | | | > | Moo | | | Mer | > | | | | | > | | | | Asc | > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| > | | | | > | JupR | | Ket | > | | | | > | BL | | GL | > | | | | > |-------------| N A V A M S A |-------------| > | Sat | | | > | | | | > | Rah | | Ven | > | | | | > | Mar | | | > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| > | | | | | > | | | | | > | | Mnd | Sun | Glk | > | | | | | > | | | | | > +----------------------+ > > 1st girl, forced into sex by older man, sexual morals are regulated, > due to Ketu's exalted aspect in navamsa on Venus and Mars. > > +----------------------+ > | | | | | > | | | | | > | Ket | | Moo | JupR | > | | | | | > | | | | | > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| > | | | | > | | | | > | | | MarR | > | | | | > | | | | > |-------------| R A S I |-------------| > | | | | > | | | | > | | | SatR | > | | | | > | | | | > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| > | | | | | > | BL Asc | Mnd GL | | | > | | | Glk | Rah | > | MerR Sun | HL Ven | | | > | | | | | > +----------------------+ > > Navamsa lagna undetermined. > +----------------------+ > | | Glk | | SatR | > | | | | | > | Ven | BL | MerR | Rah | > | | | | | > | | Asc | | Sun | > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| > | | | | > | Moo | | | > | | | Mnd | > | HL | | | > | | | | > |-------------| N A V A M S A |-------------| > | | | | > | | | | > | | | | > | | | | > | | | | > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| > | JupR | | | | > | | | | | > | MarR | | GL | | > | | | | | > | Ket | | | | > +----------------------+ > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > ______________________ ______________________ Message: 12 Sun, 30 Sep 2001 01:51:43 +0100 "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660 Re: Venus in 12th Sanjay, No, it does not, but it also indicates someone who is not unconcernedly indulging his appetites. There is that continuing concern inside during it all. The cases I was comparing it with - they were quite proud of their prowess, rather than questioning the morality. As I they all had rather nice wives/girlfriends, they were just going down in my estimation, especially as I could not understand the need to tell me about it anyway. I think now that it was to indicate that I was one of the 'boys'. Best wishes, Nimmi - "Sanjay Rath" <srath <vedic astrology> Saturday, September 29, 2001 9:25 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Venus in 12th > > > Om Gurave Namah > -------------------------- > Dear Nimmi, > That is OK, but that does not justify sin. To forgive is divine. > Look at the chart details given "Asc is Libra with Rahu/Venus/Mars in 12th > house in Virgo". With this scanty information we have to decide whether the > person has a good character which is impossible without the other details & > Navamsa. Anyway prima facie, AL is in Leo ans A7 is in Aquarius. 11th from > AL is aspected by all these planets Rah/Ket/Ven/Mars showing the source of > income having a link to foreign business & places/people. A7 colord Rahu is > conjoined Venus & Mars and this will give umpteen opportunities for > involvement with the opposite sex. Whether the person will indulge or not > will depend on the strongest influence on the intellect Merc & jupiter. > Best Wishes > Sanjay Rath > - > Nimmi Ragavan <106350.3660 > <vedic astrology> > Friday, September 28, 2001 6:16 AM > Re: [vedic astrology] Venus in 12th > > > Hi, > > I am not so sure about this. 4th lord saturn is with 9th lord mercury in leo > the 11th house. The 12th house associations indicate secret relationships or > relationships with foreigners and overseas residence. Also extreme shyness > or a desire for privacy and solitude. I have a friend with a libra ascendant > and debilitated venus in the 12th, who is a very gentle and considerate > person - I have known him and his family for over 20 years. Mars will lend > passion to venus, but in virgo this tends to be not given free reign. Look > at Bill Clinton and the quibbles about whether he was or was not having sex. > I have friends of friends who insist on telling me their personal histories, > who make him seem almost virginal . > > Regards, > Nimmi > - > Sally Spencer > vedic astrology > Friday, September 28, 2001 1:27 AM > Re: [vedic astrology] Venus in 12th > > > Hello, I would check Jupiter for moral standards. And her sexual prowess > and interest I would indeed consider the Rahu, Venus and Mars > m_muraly wrote: > > Om Krishna GURU! > Can anyone quickly tell me the moral standards of a person( female) > whose Asc is Libra with Rahu/Venus/Mars in 12th house in Virgo? Also > Mercury is retrograde with Sat in Leo and Moon/ Mercury are in trines > in Navamsa. > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > ______________________ ______________________ Message: 13 Sat, 29 Sep 2001 23:11:49 -0700 (PDT) sridhar k <kopparsa Re: I don't know How to study South Indian Charts dear Jitendra Reading the South style Charts is simple. The Chart is read CLOCKWISE, and the Start at the Left Handed Corner is MEENA(PISCES). Next is Mesha,next Vrishab,and Mithuna. Then goin down you have Karka,Simha,Kanya. Proceed to Left you get Tula,Vrischik,Dhanu. Go up you have Makar,Kumbh, and back to Meena. The planets are shown in these blocks accccccording to the Rashis(signs). The Ascendent is Marked as ASC or Lagna, in the Rasi House it occupies. Start with this go clockwise, you will get 2nd,3rd,4th... 12th houses. Blessing of the GURUS. Listen to your Mail messages from any phone. http://phone. ______________________ ______________________ Message: 14 Sun, 30 Sep 2001 04:52:29 EDT GWBrennan Re: Jaya Shekhar Hi Anton Try sekharjaya Regards Gordon [This message contained attachments] ______________________ ______________________ Message: 15 Sun, 30 Sep 2001 09:05:22 -0000 "Venkateshwara A Reddy" <venkateshwara_reddy Re: I don't know How to study South Indian Charts Dear Jitendra, South Indian charts: Signs are Fixed North Indian charts: Houses are Fixed Best Regards, Venkat ______________________ ______________________ Message: 16 Sat, 29 Sep 2001 20:42:43 -1000 Sally <sara Re: Resending: Marriage delay...... why?? Hello Sumit, Well the ruler of the second house is a little weak, and Venus is in extreme old age(which and afflicts the 6H. So strengthen Jupiter which will also strengthen the Moon and the Sun and Mercury residing in his house and propitiate Venus. I would also propitiate Mars as he resides in the 12H of marital tie and owns the 6H of disputes. Sincerely, Sally dost_1 wrote: > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > I was trying to analyse this horoscope to find out the possible > time > > of marriage and the reason for the delay. I am not really confident > > about my findings .. and am at a total loss to explain the delay. > > > > The horoscope details are ... > > date of birth - 28th Dec, 1970 > > time of birth - 5:06 am (Time zone 5:30 hrs) > > place of birth - Long:76E32 Lat:27N06 (India) > > > > I would appreciate any help on this. > > > > Regards. > > -Sumit > > Sponsor > > [image] > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > ______________________ ______________________ Message: 17 Sun, 30 Sep 2001 15:07:01 +0530 "Narayan rao PVKL - CTD, Chennai." <pvklnrao RE: Re: I don't know How to study South Indian Charts Dear Venkatesa, I am afraid what you told is not sufficient. View this mail using Courier New font (fixed width font). Let me step in and contribute my 2 cents :-) DIFFERENT CHART STYLES: +-----------+------------+------------+-----------+ |Pisces | Aries | Taurus | Gemini | | | | | | | | | | | +-----------+------------+------------+-----------+ |Aquarious | | Cancer | | | | | | | | | +-----------+ South Indian +-----------+ |Capricorn | Regular Style | Leo | | | | | | | | | +-----------+------------+------------+-----------+ |Sagitarious| Scorpian | Libra | Virgo | | | | | | | | | | | +-----------+------------+------------+-----------+ +-----------+------------+------------+-----------+ | Gemini | Taurus | Aries |Pisces | | | | | | | | | | | +-----------+------------+------------+-----------+ | Cancer | |Aquarious | | | | | | | | | +-----------+ South Indian +-----------+ | Leo | Irregular Style |Capricorn | | | | | | | | | +-----------+------------+------------+-----------+ | Virgo | Libra | Scorpian |Sagitarious| | | | | | | | | | | +-----------+------------+------------+-----------+ +------+------------+------+ | \ Ta| Ar | Pi /| | \ | | / | | Ge \| | / Aq| +------+------------+------+ | | | | | Cn | | Cp | | | | | | | | | +------+------------+------+ | Le /| | \ Sg| | / | | \ | | / Vi| Li | Sc \| +------+------------+------+ +-----------------------------+ | \ II / \ XII /| | \ / \ / | | \ / I house \ / | | III \ /\ XI | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / IV \ / X \| | \ /\ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | V \/ VII \ IX | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / VI \ / VIII \ | +-----------------------------+ In north indian style, the kendras are in the inner part. Note that, only South Indian regular differs from all other style in the direction. All other styles, go anti-clock wise where as South Indian regular style, signs go in clock wise direction. Obviously it is comfortable to get used to one style rather than all styles. (then it will be easy to remembers aspects, tatwa of signs etc as we can remember easily. For example, in South Indian style, sign aspects are easy. Each sign aspects sign angularly close to it and then knigth (in chess) step. (L shape). +-----------+------------+------------+-----------+ | | | | | | | | 3 | | | | | | | +-----------+------------+------------+-----------+ | | | | | | | | | | | | +-----------+ +-----------+ | | | | | * | | 2 | | \| | | +-----------+------------+------------+-----------+ | |\/ | | | | | 1 | | | | | | | | +-----------+------------+------------+-----------+ I would advise you to stick to one style, and know the other styles. When you see chart in other style, you can quickly convert it and re-draw using the style you are most comfortable. This is what I do. Hope it helps atleast some. Best regards, Vijay pvklnrao Venkateshwara A Reddy [venkateshwara_reddy] Sunday, September 30, 2001 2:35 PM vedic astrology [vedic astrology] Re: I don't know How to study South Indian Charts Dear Jitendra, South Indian charts: Signs are Fixed North Indian charts: Houses are Fixed Best Regards, Venkat <http://us.adserver./l?M=168643.1620686.3168692.1261774/D=egroupmai l/S=1705082686:HM/A=799560/rand=699517931> <vedic astrology> <vedic astrology/info.html> Terms of Service <> . *********************************************************************** Disclaimer: This document is intended for transmission to the named recipient only. 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