Combinations for astrologers

September 26, 2001

Om Gurave Namah

--------------------------

Dear Srinagesh,

Where did you get that? Parasara says that under the influence of Ketu and

Jupiter a person has knowledge of Jyotish shastra and that this is from his

tradition or family.. Look at my chart and this is perfectly applicable..

Parasara was correct. Ketu's deity is Ganapati Who is so important for

Jyotish.

Best Wishes

Sanjay Rath

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vankateshwara srinagesh <sri999

Tuesday, September 25, 2001 8:09 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Combinations for astrologers

> Ketu & rahu are not to be linked with jyotissastra....

>

> though ketu is karaka for Intution .....

>

> some persons ...get dreams.....which are going to

> happen......some kind of intution that is because of

> ketu....no way related to astrology....

>

> Best Regards

> Srinagesh

> --- Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream wrote:

> > Dear Alex,

> > Also; Mercury in 10th from Swamsa gives work with

> > traditional sciences.

> >

> > Best wishes, Visti.

> >

> > --- Alex J <lostinmotion wrote:

> > > Dear Partha, Abhilekh, Doug & Narayan,

> > >

> > > In addition to all of the informative yogas given,

> > I

> > > thought these

> > > few would be of interest.

> > >

> > > Brihat Parasara Hora Sastra:

> > >

> > > BPHS ch 33 87: Ketu in the 5th from Swamsa will

> > make

> > > one a

> > > mathematician and skilful in Jyotish. Should

> > Jupiter

> > > be related to

> > > the said Ketu, these learnings will be by

> > > inheritance. All these as

> > > well apply to 2nd and 3rd from Swamsa and to the

> > > Swamsa itself apart

> > > from applying to the 5th from Swamsa.

> > >

> > > BPHS ch 33 sl 44 and Ketu or Rahu in Karakamsh or

> > in

> > > the 5th from

> > > there denotes that one is a Jyotishi.

> > >

> > > Jaimini in his Upadesha Sutras expands further on

> > > Parasar by writing

> > > that these combinations of Ketu in the 5th/swamsa

> > > are also to be seen

> > > from AL and lagna. Likewise that not only the 5th

> > > house is to be

> > > looked at, but every trine.

> > >

> > > Also Parasara and Jaimini make reference to Ketu

> > in

> > > the 5th making

> > > the person a watchmaker. Ketu seems to be related

> > to

> > > the measuring of

> > > time.

> > >

> > > Both of these sages mention specifically Ketu and

> > > Rahu as indicating

> > > jyotishis. These also seem to be important for

> > > astrology.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > >

> > > Alex J

> > >

> >

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September 26, 2001

11th Lord Saturn is aspecting my atmakaraka (Mercury) and 11th (Aquarius) has Rahu

Regards

Gordon

September 26, 2001

OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH

JAYA JAGANNATHA

Pranam Gurudeva,

My Lagna is Aq. Co-lord Rahu is my Atmakaraka exalted in 5th house and aspects the 11th house.

Apart from this, my 2nd and 11th lord Jupiter aspects 11th house of its own from

Aries. Next 5th and 8th lord Mercury is placed at 10th in Scorpio along with

Sun.

Thanks

Solai Kannan

Sanjay Rath [srath (AT) vsnl (DOT) com]Sent:

Wednesday, September 26, 2001 6:10 PMTo:

vedic astrologySubject: Re: [vedic astrology] Combinations for

astrologersOm Gurave

Namah--------------------------Dear

Jyotisha,Can we check as to how many of you have any relationship between the

11thhouse and your Atmakaraka, either placement Lordship, aspect

orconjunction...Best WishesSanjay Rath

September 26, 2001

Sanjay,

My Asc is Libra and my AK is Venus. He is in Leo.

What is the logic behind this combination?

AK is the one who acts like a representative of soul. 11th is 4th from 8th.

Hence make the soul study occult sciences? Also, 11th is the house of

realisation and gains. AK having relation with 11th house would indeed give

some self-soul-sprititual realisation. These are my thoughts.

Please enlighten more on this topic.

How ever, as a note of caution, the combinations we are looking are:

Can we check as to how many of you have any relationship between the 11thhouse

and your Atmakaraka, either placement Lordship, aspect orconjunction...

placement - AK in 11th

Lordship - AK owning 11th

aspect - AK aspecting 11th

conjunction - AK conjunct with 11th Lord.

AK aspecting 11th house.

Every planet aspects 3 houses (rasi aspect as Narasimha has clarified).

How ever, planets in Asc, 4th and 7th will only aspect 11th.

So, AK aspecting 11 house = (AK in Asc, or in 4th or in 7th)

As, owning 11th depends solly on Asc, and not AK himself, we can treat AK's

placement and AK owning 11th as independent evets.

AK in 11th or (Asc or 4th or 7th) or (AK owning 11th) or (AK with 11th lord).

(AK in Asc or 4th or 7th or 11th) or (AK owning 11th) or (AK with 11th lord)

AK owning 11th and AKs placement are independent. How ever, (AK with 11th lord)

depends heavily on who is AK and what is Lagna. For exmple, if AK is Budha and

Asc is is Libra, then the probability of AK with 11th lord is very high. How

ever, let us make wrong exceptions and make the calculations easy.

P(combination) = P(AK in Asc or 4th or 7th or 11th) + P(AK owning 11th) + P(AK

with 11th lord)

Let me not consider AK with 11th lord.

P(AK owning 11th) = P( AK is Moon and Asc is Gem) + P(AK is Sun and Asc Li) +

P(AK is Rahu and Rahu owns Aq and Asc is Ar) + P (AK is Sat and Asc is Pi) +

P(AK is Sat and Sat owns Aq and Asc is Ar) + P(Kuja is AK and Asc is Gem) +

P(Kuja is AK and Kuja owns Sc and Asc in Cp) + P(any of the other 3 planets is

AK and Asc is in 11th from from either of rasis owned by them)

= 1/8 * 1/12 + 1/8 * 1/12 + 1/8 * 1/2 * 1/12 + 1/8 * 1/12 + 1/8 * 1/2 * 1/12 +

1/8 * 1/12 + 1/8 * 1/2 * 1/12 + 3 * 1/8 * 2/12

= 1/8 * 1/12 * 1/2 ( 2 + 2 + 1 + 2 + 1+2 +1 +12) = 1/8 * 1/12 * 1/2 * (23) =

23/(8*12*2) = 23/192

(In the above calculation, I assume P(Rahu) ownig Aq is 1/2 (which is not true).

But, it does not really matter. How ever, similiar assumption about Kuja owning

Sc does matter. But it will account to 1/192 only.

P(AK in Asc or 4 or 7 or 11) = 4/12 = 1/3

So, P > 1/3 + 23/192 = 0.5729!

Thus, the combination is expected in every 57 of 100 people!

Infact aspect it self: 0.33

P(AK in 11th) = 1/12 = 0.08

P(AK owning 11th) = 0.11979 ~ 0.12

I am not putting down this rule. This is just for pointing out that this

combination may not be rare.

Best regards,

Vijay

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Sarajit Poddar

[sarajitp (AT) hclinsys (DOT) com]Thursday, September 27, 2001 9:27 AMTo:

vedic astrologySubject: Re: [vedic astrology] Combinations for

astrologersAum Gurave Namah!Dear GurudevMy Atmakaraka Mars is in the 9th house,

Leo from Sag. lagna and aspect the11th, Libra though rasi drishti. Can you

please enlighten, why therelationship of the 11th and the atmakaraka is vital

for astrology?RegardsSarajit-"Sanjay Rath"

<srath (AT) vsnl (DOT) com><vedic astrology>Wednesday, September

26, 2001 8:40 PMRe: [vedic astrology] Combinations for astrologers>> Om

Gurave Namah> --------------------------> Dear

Jyotisha,> Can we check as to how many of you have any relationship between the

11th> house and your Atmakaraka, either placement Lordship, aspect or>

conjunction...> Best Wishes> Sanjay Rath> ->

balaji srinivasan <sri_balaji >> To:

<vedic astrology>> Tuesday, September 25, 2001 5:12 PM>

Re: [vedic astrology] Combinations for astrologers>>> > I can say

Mercury in virgo helps and is good enough.> > Even without the aid of other

planets he helps in> > Jyotish.> > Rahu with Budha can probably give Mantra

Siddhi as> > Rahu is an occult planet. Beyond that I don't see Rahu> > having

much to do with astrology.> > I would favor Kethu, Guru and Budha.> >> >

regards,> > Balaji S.> >> >> > --- Anand K <adithyaputra (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:> >

> I would also say that Rahu in the 5th with the 5th> > > lord (if Me) makes the

native an astrologer. If this> > > is in Virgo, nothing like it. Would there be

any> > > exceptions to this observation?> > > regards> > > K.Anand> > >> > >

--- Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream > wrote:> > > >> > > Dear Alex,> > >

> Just to add.> > > >> > > > Rahu influencing mercury, shows that these> > >

learnings> > > > come through research.. Rahu influencing 5th,> > > > doesn't>

> > > however show Jyotish ability.> > > >> > > > Best wishes, Visti.> > >> >

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September 27, 2001

Dear Vijay!

I did the calculation in a little different way....

Event I: P(AK in 11 or Ak Aspect the 11)=1/3 = 0.3333333(same as yours) for all lagna

Event II: P(AK own 11th)= dependent on lagna...

For Aries Lagna P()=2/12 = 0.1667

For other Lagna P()=1/12 = 0.083333

Thus for all lagnas(excluding Aries) the probability of occurance of event I or

event II = 0.333333+0.083333 = 41.6%

For Aries P(event I or event 2)=0.33333+0.166667 = 50%

The overall probability of occurrance for any lagna = (41.6*11 +0.5)/12 = 42.3%.

I didn't take the association of AK and 11th lord for similar reason as yours...

I feel that the probability of that would be less enough to make substantial

contribution in increasing the overall probability. In any case actual

occurance of the combinations in astrologers chart more than 50% will support

our hypothesis.

I personally think that the combination might give interest in astrology,

however we didn't take other "AND" factors such as specific lordship of AK

(might be any houses of moksha trikona) etc., aspect or association of planets

(such as Jup, Merc etc.) which would reduce the probality substantially...

Regards

Sarajit

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Narayan rao PVKL - CTD, Chennai.

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Thursday, September 27, 2001 11:26 AM

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