Guest guest Posted September 26, 2001 Report Share Posted September 26, 2001 Why does nearly every book and astrologer state that Shani is a malefic? I personally have seen that Shani is a generous giver (when he decides to give) and he improves the issues related to the house in which he is posited (there is a shlok in regard to this which says that Jupiter spoils the place where he sits and Shani enhances it). I feel that Shani tests the native with regard to the house in which he sits and if the native sticks to his principles through thick and thin then Shani gives like no one else does. Shouldn't we realise this rather than declare Shani a malefic and fear him, when we should rather respect him? regards K.Anand __________ Get your free @.co.uk address at http://mail..co.uk or your free @.ie address at http://mail..ie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2001 Report Share Posted September 26, 2001 Aum Gurave Namah Dear Anand! Shani is considered malefic for many reasons. On the first hand it indicate lots of trouble for the native. Actually Shani is a great purifier, it purifies the native by taking him through some of the most tough times. Wherever Shani casts his aspect, he delays the fructification of the indication of the house; this is another reason. During 7.5 years if Sade-sati the native has some most difficult experiences of his lifetime. We needn't fear any planet as all of them in our spiritual realisation from material to spiritual. This is again a perspective, for a spiritual person,material possession is of no value and hence he wouldn't suffer with the lack of material possession, however, for a materials person the same instance would cause a lot of pain. All the best Sarajit - "Anand K" <adithyaputra <vedic astrology> Wednesday, September 26, 2001 2:51 PM [vedic astrology] Is saturn really a malefic? > Why does nearly every book and astrologer state that > Shani is a malefic? I personally have seen that Shani > is a generous giver (when he decides to give) and he > improves the issues related to the house in which he > is posited (there is a shlok in regard to this which > says that Jupiter spoils the place where he sits and > Shani enhances it). I feel that Shani tests the native > with regard to the house in which he sits and if the > native sticks to his principles through thick and thin > then Shani gives like no one else does. Shouldn't we > realise this rather than declare Shani a malefic and > fear him, when we should rather respect him? > regards > K.Anand > > __________ > > Get your free @.co.uk address at http://mail..co.uk > or your free @.ie address at http://mail..ie > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2001 Report Share Posted September 26, 2001 Aum Gurave Namah Dear Anand! Can you please give the reference of the text where you found "there is a shlok in regard to this whichsays that Jupiter spoils the place where he sits and Shani enhances it" Regards Sarajit - "Anand K" <adithyaputra (AT) (DOT) co.uk> <vedic astrology> Wednesday, September 26, 2001 2:51 PM [vedic astrology] Is saturn really a malefic? > Why does nearly every book and astrologer state that> Shani is a malefic? I personally have seen that Shani> is a generous giver (when he decides to give) and he> improves the issues related to the house in which he> is posited (there is a shlok in regard to this which> says that Jupiter spoils the place where he sits and> Shani enhances it). I feel that Shani tests the native> with regard to the house in which he sits and if the> native sticks to his principles through thick and thin> then Shani gives like no one else does. Shouldn't we> realise this rather than declare Shani a malefic and> fear him, when we should rather respect him? > regards> K.Anand> > __________> > Get your free @.co.uk address at http://mail..co.uk> or your free @.ie address at http://mail..ie> > ------------------------ Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->> Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck> Monitoring Service trial> http://us.click./MDsVHB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/.8XolB/TM> ---~->> > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2001 Report Share Posted September 26, 2001 Dear Anand, All the Devas are souls assigned that role in the Manvantras by supreme. Sani controls Time and Destiny and punishes for the mistakes. He is like the post man delivering the letters. He humbles the mighty and lifts up the humble. He rules the past and things that are do with the wastages are again ruled by him. If Sani is aspected by Good planets like Jupiter he does help. Aspect of malefics like Mars and Sun can give problems. In fact, when remedies are done it should be done with a reverential attitude - we don't know what karma led us to the suffering, atleast we should think of not doing mistakes. In Puranas it is said a soul that is good will see Yama as a good person while a person who did bad after death sees him fearful. A person who has become a Bhagawatha need not fear any devata as he is already on the right path. Fear of the Lord is beginning of the wisdom. But, more understanding leads to love for god. warm regards, Balaji S. --- Anand K <adithyaputra wrote: > Why does nearly every book and astrologer state that > Shani is a malefic? I personally have seen that > Shani > is a generous giver (when he decides to give) and he > improves the issues related to the house in which he > is posited (there is a shlok in regard to this which > says that Jupiter spoils the place where he sits and > Shani enhances it). I feel that Shani tests the > native > with regard to the house in which he sits and if the > native sticks to his principles through thick and > thin > then Shani gives like no one else does. Shouldn't we > realise this rather than declare Shani a malefic and > fear him, when we should rather respect him? > regards > K.Anand > > __________ > > Get your free @.co.uk address at > http://mail..co.uk > or your free @.ie address at > http://mail..ie > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Messenger. http://im. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2001 Report Share Posted September 26, 2001 Dear Anand, Shani, gives the maximum malific points in the Ashtavarga, hence its malific. On the Same token Jupiter contributes the maximum benefic points and hence its benefic. In the similar way you can check for other planets. Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash vedic astrology, Anand K <adithyaputra> wrote: > Why does nearly every book and astrologer state that > Shani is a malefic? I personally have seen that Shani > is a generous giver (when he decides to give) and he > improves the issues related to the house in which he > is posited (there is a shlok in regard to this which > says that Jupiter spoils the place where he sits and > Shani enhances it). I feel that Shani tests the native > with regard to the house in which he sits and if the > native sticks to his principles through thick and thin > then Shani gives like no one else does. Shouldn't we > realise this rather than declare Shani a malefic and > fear him, when we should rather respect him? > regards > K.Anand > > __________ > > Get your free @.co.uk address at http://mail..co.uk > or your free @.ie address at http://mail..ie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2001 Report Share Posted September 26, 2001 You bring up an excellent point. Your sentiments are shared by other astrologers (some of them who are really very good but have no desire for recognition and prefer to stay in obscurity; it seems they are yogis in the sense they recognize their gifts/powers and are content merely with the knowledge and their sense of duty). Sorry cannot expand. However, will state that there are many powerful tidbits are guarded closely among some traditional Jyotishi families. Occasionally, some may come forth and share some of them. Other times, some other renowned astrologers may get wind of the technique (formula) but without really completely understanding it. They may formulate hypothesis around these formulas which may or may not be accurate or appeal to everyone. However, the formula should still work -- it is upto the individual to make the choice to use or not use the same..... Saturn provides the greatest Karmic power. Without any disrespect to Jupiter (because I too think it is very important to have Jupiter's knowledge; it makes life so much more simpler), the Karma shakti can provide equal results in deed and accomplishments. To support this statement, I'll refer you to the story of Eklavya from Mahabharat. Best Regards, SA Anand K <adithyaputra on 09/26/2001 02:21:42 AM Please respond to vedic astrology vedic astrology cc: [vedic astrology] Is saturn really a malefic? Why does nearly every book and astrologer state that Shani is a malefic? I personally have seen that Shani is a generous giver (when he decides to give) and he improves the issues related to the house in which he is posited (there is a shlok in regard to this which says that Jupiter spoils the place where he sits and Shani enhances it). I feel that Shani tests the native with regard to the house in which he sits and if the native sticks to his principles through thick and thin then Shani gives like no one else does. Shouldn't we realise this rather than declare Shani a malefic and fear him, when we should rather respect him? regards K.Anand __________ Get your free @.co.uk address at http://mail..co.uk or your free @.ie address at http://mail..ie Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2001 Report Share Posted September 27, 2001 vedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajitp@h...> wrote: << During 7.5 years if Sade-sati the native has some most difficult experiences >> Hi, What is Sade-sati? When does this occur in a chart? thank you. Aileena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2001 Report Share Posted September 29, 2001 Hello Aileena, Sade Sati is the term used for when Saturn transits the house before in and after the Moon in the natal chart. Sally aileena69 wrote: > > vedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajitp@h...> wrote: > << During 7.5 years if Sade-sati the native has some most difficult > experiences >> > > Hi, > > What is Sade-sati? When does this occur in a chart? thank you. > > Aileena > > Sponsor > > Start here... > > Height: > ft in > > Weight: > lbs. kg. > > > > [image] > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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