Guest guest Posted September 26, 2001 Report Share Posted September 26, 2001 Dear Friends, Sanjayji has mentioned in his writings that the link between Chara Atmakaraka and 11th house is vital in making of an astrologer. Refer to his recent mail to Sri Satyanarayana Sarma. Regards viswanadham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2001 Report Share Posted September 26, 2001 > Dear Partha, Abhilekh & Doug, > > The 1H represents Self/Present. > The 5H represents Children/Future. > The 9H represents Father/Past. > > Quadrants to these houses provide sustainance. > > So, > > The present is seen from the Kendra (1,4,7,10 houses) that are > overlorded by Brahma. > > The past is seen from the Apoklimas (3,6,9,12 houses) which are > lorded by Vishnu and > > The future is seen from the Panapara (2,5,8,11 houses) which are > lorded by Shiva. > > Hence houses 2, 5, 8 & 11 are important houses for Astrologers. > Association of either Ju and/or Me with these houses are one of the > sureshot indicators of Astrologers. Hi Narayan, Let us consider the Ascendants Aquarius ( 2nd and 11 the Lord is Jupiter; 5th and 8th lord is Mercury) Leo Ascendant: 2nd and 11th lord is Mercury, 5 and 8th lord is Jupiter. Implicity, we got these 2 ascendants.. Whats ur opinion abt these ascendant people reg astrology regards, Venkat > > Further, > Jupiter is the planet of wisdom, discretion, judgment and traditional > knowledge. > Mercury is the planet of speech, solid knowledge, logic and > reasoning. > These two are the significators of astrology. The 2nd and 5th houses > are important (also 8th). The 2nd is the house of speech and overall > knowledge and awareness. The 5th is the house of intelligence, > intuition and perception. The 8th is the house of occult and also > research. > > Some astrologers also have Jovian influence on 10th (karma/action). > > Usually Jupiter/Mercury has a strong influence on 2nd/5th in rasi or > D-10 or D-24 for astrologers. D-10 (dasamsa) is the chart of > activities and achievements in society. D-24 is the chart of learning > and knowledge. > > In addition, D-27 is the chart of strengths and weaknesses. The 2nd > in D-27 shows one's vaag bala (power of speech) and 5th and 8th show > intuition. Those with very strong Mercurian/Jovian (esp Jovian) > influence on 2nd/5th/8th in D-27 have a knack for making correct > predictions. > > Dasas have a role too. Astrologers go through phases of success and > failure. D-27 Narayana dasa can be helpful. > > > Regards > -Narayan > > > > > > vedic astrology, partha sarathy <partvinu5> wrote: > > dear doug > > > > Thank you for you insightful thoughts. if you are > > interested in any topic related to astrology, you can > > freely contact me at > > Partvinu5 > > > > --- Doug Riemer <vedic@k...> wrote: > > > Your thoughts are very helpful thank you. > > > > > > I would add to things: First, Ketu with Mercury can > > > be helpful in > > > supporting the subtle thinking necessary. Second, I > > > agree about > > > Saturn being critical, and my experience here with > > > students is they > > > need Saturn's organization and structure to grasp > > > this endless craft > > > and most valuably Saturn's endurance to stick with > > > it long enough to > > > learn the necessary fundamentals. > > > > > > doug riemer > > > > > > vedic astrology, partvinu5 wrote: > > > > there are different types of astrologers. SOme > > > become famous many > > > do > > > > not. what are the various combinations for > > > astrologers > > > > let us examine them one by one > > > > > > > > a) although there might be some disagreements on > > > this point but the > > > > chief karaka for astrology is mercury. > > > > b) placement of mercury in shubha vargas and > > > intuitive signs of > > > > sagittarius, virgo, cancer, scorpio and pisces > > > gives some > > > indications > > > > for astrology related profession. > > > > c) the placement of mercury in navamsa (d9) > > > dasamsa (d10) and d24 > > > the > > > > house of advanced learning gives some clues. > > > > d) the 12th house, 8th house, their lords and > > > their respective > > > > positions are also crucial. 12th being 8th from > > > 5th and 8th being a > > > > hidden house do signify intuitve capabilities. > > > thus the placement > > > of > > > > these planets in strong positions is crucial for > > > astrology. > > > > e) the placement of jupiter and saturn are also > > > crucial. if mercury > > > > is strong and jupiter is placed in 1st, 5th or 9th > > > house, the > > > native > > > > may write books on astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > there are many other combinations but i would like > > > esteemed readers > > > > to assess the above rules and may send their > > > comments and > > > criticisms > > > > to me. > > > > > > > > > > > > V.Partha Sarathy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with > Messenger. http://im. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2001 Report Share Posted September 26, 2001 > Dear Narayan, > > Ketu also is computer programmers and technicians; and learning of > math, the logic component of which is handy for programming. I There is a huge difference between Programming and Computer Science. Computer Science deals with Problems(is it solvable/ if so, in how mant steps/How many memory cells). And Logic is calculus of Computer Science. I MUST say that Computer Science is Another division of Mathematics.. Programming is just application Best regards, Venkat > sometimes find astrological analysis to be much like the multilayered > logic involved in computer programming. > > It is valid to say, that Jupiter, Mercury, Ketu and Rahu indicate > jyotish. But why? How do each of these contribute? > > I know a very competent Jyotishi who uses only the rudimentary > techniques of D-1, some D-9 and vimshottari. She tells me that the > only way to see the correct answer is to apply the rules in > combination with performing a lot of puja. She then intuitively knows > the answer. Am I correct in saying that she has a strong Jupiter > involvement in her astrology? > > warm regards, > > Alex J > > > vedic astrology, "Narayan Iyer" <narayan_iyer@m...> wrote: > > Dear Alex, > > > > Ketu is also known as SookshmaYantra. It is a significator of fine > > instruments. Hence it is an indicator of a *Watch-maker*. > > Hence, it also indicates surgeons & other Mechanics who use fine > > instruments. > > > > Regards > > -Narayan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2001 Report Share Posted September 26, 2001 Om Gurave Namah -------------------------- Dear Jyotisha, Can we check as to how many of you have any relationship between the 11th house and your Atmakaraka, either placement Lordship, aspect or conjunction... Best Wishes Sanjay Rath - balaji srinivasan <sri_balaji <vedic astrology> Tuesday, September 25, 2001 5:12 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Combinations for astrologers > I can say Mercury in virgo helps and is good enough. > Even without the aid of other planets he helps in > Jyotish. > Rahu with Budha can probably give Mantra Siddhi as > Rahu is an occult planet. Beyond that I don't see Rahu > having much to do with astrology. > I would favor Kethu, Guru and Budha. > > regards, > Balaji S. > > > --- Anand K <adithyaputra wrote: > > I would also say that Rahu in the 5th with the 5th > > lord (if Me) makes the native an astrologer. If this > > is in Virgo, nothing like it. Would there be any > > exceptions to this observation? > > regards > > K.Anand > > > > --- Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream wrote: > > > > > Dear Alex, > > > Just to add. > > > > > > Rahu influencing mercury, shows that these > > learnings > > > come through research.. Rahu influencing 5th, > > > doesn't > > > however show Jyotish ability. > > > > > > Best wishes, Visti. > > > > > > > __________ > > > > Get your free @.co.uk address at > > http://mail..co.uk > > or your free @.ie address at > > http://mail..ie > > > > > > > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Messenger. http://im. > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2001 Report Share Posted September 26, 2001 Respected Sanjay Ji, Pranaam: Very good point and I agree with this simple assessment. In your chart, Saturn is the Atma Karaka and placed in 11th house [Rasi Chart]. Now as most of us are aware... 7th from Atma Karaka shows the soul's desire. Thus, the focus is on your fifth house [with Sun and Venus --- denoting Jyotish and Ayurveda and very good]. However, Saturn is retrograde [showing corrections and re-doing from past karma]. The Shastyamsa; is the best place for studying past karma and for those of us who are novice and amateur, I would like to add that Shastyamsa is probably the easiest chart to read [with regards to Chara Karakas and related]...provided we are sure that the Shastyamsa is correctly rectified. Anyway...I shall avoid going into Shastyamsa at this stage, but with all due respect, I think you will have some problems from your followers [however, I could be wrong as I am merely a humble student]. Please forgive me if I have over-stepped my boundaries and in that case please accept my sincere apologies. But since your chart depicts Sri Rama Avatar, I could not resist but make this post following your highlighting the 11th house and Atma Karaka :-) I also apologize to Narasimha Ji for the bandwidth usage of this message and hope that I have shed some useful light with regards to this thread. With that... Please give my best regards to all your loved ones ever and you [all] take care too. Om Namo Narayana Kind regards and best wishes from Ron vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" <srath@v...> wrote: > > Om Gurave Namah > -------------------------- > Dear Jyotisha, > Can we check as to how many of you have any relationship between the 11th > house and your Atmakaraka, either placement Lordship, aspect or > conjunction... > Best Wishes > Sanjay Rath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2001 Report Share Posted September 26, 2001 My 11th lord is my AK. In addition dispositor is also in 11th, if that is relevant. Nimmi - "Sanjay Rath" <srath <vedic astrology> Wednesday, September 26, 2001 4:10 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Combinations for astrologers > > > Om Gurave Namah > -------------------------- > Dear Jyotisha, > Can we check as to how many of you have any relationship between the 11th > house and your Atmakaraka, either placement Lordship, aspect or > conjunction... > Best Wishes > Sanjay Rath > - > balaji srinivasan <sri_balaji > <vedic astrology> > Tuesday, September 25, 2001 5:12 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Combinations for astrologers > > > > I can say Mercury in virgo helps and is good enough. > > Even without the aid of other planets he helps in > > Jyotish. > > Rahu with Budha can probably give Mantra Siddhi as > > Rahu is an occult planet. Beyond that I don't see Rahu > > having much to do with astrology. > > I would favor Kethu, Guru and Budha. > > > > regards, > > Balaji S. > > > > > > --- Anand K <adithyaputra wrote: > > > I would also say that Rahu in the 5th with the 5th > > > lord (if Me) makes the native an astrologer. If this > > > is in Virgo, nothing like it. Would there be any > > > exceptions to this observation? > > > regards > > > K.Anand > > > > > > --- Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Alex, > > > > Just to add. > > > > > > > > Rahu influencing mercury, shows that these > > > learnings > > > > come through research.. Rahu influencing 5th, > > > > doesn't > > > > however show Jyotish ability. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, Visti. > > > > > > > > > > > __________ > > > > > > Get your free @.co.uk address at > > > http://mail..co.uk > > > or your free @.ie address at > > > http://mail..ie > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with > Messenger. http://im. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2001 Report Share Posted September 26, 2001 Om Gurave Namah, Pranaam Gurudev, My Atmakarak mars aspects 11th lord in Rasi,Navamsa and Dasamsa. and in D24(Ge lagna) 11th lord is mars. Regards S.Prabhakaran vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" <srath@v...> wrote: > > Om Gurave Namah > -------------------------- > Dear Jyotisha, > Can we check as to how many of you have any relationship between the 11th > house and your Atmakaraka, either placement Lordship, aspect or > conjunction... > Best Wishes > Sanjay Rath > - > balaji srinivasan <sri_balaji> > <vedic astrology> > Tuesday, September 25, 2001 5:12 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Combinations for astrologers > > > > I can say Mercury in virgo helps and is good enough. > > Even without the aid of other planets he helps in > > Jyotish. > > Rahu with Budha can probably give Mantra Siddhi as > > Rahu is an occult planet. Beyond that I don't see Rahu > > having much to do with astrology. > > I would favor Kethu, Guru and Budha. > > > > regards, > > Balaji S. > > > > > > --- Anand K <adithyaputra> wrote: > > > I would also say that Rahu in the 5th with the 5th > > > lord (if Me) makes the native an astrologer. If this > > > is in Virgo, nothing like it. Would there be any > > > exceptions to this observation? > > > regards > > > K.Anand > > > > > > --- Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Alex, > > > > Just to add. > > > > > > > > Rahu influencing mercury, shows that these > > > learnings > > > > come through research.. Rahu influencing 5th, > > > > doesn't > > > > however show Jyotish ability. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, Visti. > > > > > > > > > > > __________ > > > > > > Get your free @.co.uk address at > > > http://mail..co.uk > > > or your free @.ie address at > > > http://mail..ie > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with > Messenger. http://im. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2001 Report Share Posted September 26, 2001 I have capricon lagna with Saturn (atmakarka) in 3rd house aspecting 11th lord Mars which is sitting in 5th house with Sun(8th lord) and Venus ( 5th and 10th). Minu Desai --- Nimmi Ragavan <106350.3660 wrote: > My 11th lord is my AK. In addition dispositor is > also in 11th, if that is > relevant. > > Nimmi > > > - > "Sanjay Rath" <srath > <vedic astrology> > Wednesday, September 26, 2001 4:10 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Combinations for > astrologers > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > -------------------------- > > Dear Jyotisha, > > Can we check as to how many of you have any > relationship between the 11th > > house and your Atmakaraka, either placement > Lordship, aspect or > > conjunction... > > Best Wishes > > Sanjay Rath > > - > > balaji srinivasan <sri_balaji > > <vedic astrology> > > Tuesday, September 25, 2001 5:12 PM > > Re: [vedic astrology] Combinations for > astrologers > > > > > > > I can say Mercury in virgo helps and is good > enough. > > > Even without the aid of other planets he helps > in > > > Jyotish. > > > Rahu with Budha can probably give Mantra Siddhi > as > > > Rahu is an occult planet. Beyond that I don't > see Rahu > > > having much to do with astrology. > > > I would favor Kethu, Guru and Budha. > > > > > > regards, > > > Balaji S. > > > > > > > > > --- Anand K <adithyaputra wrote: > > > > I would also say that Rahu in the 5th with the > 5th > > > > lord (if Me) makes the native an astrologer. > If this > > > > is in Virgo, nothing like it. Would there be > any > > > > exceptions to this observation? > > > > regards > > > > K.Anand > > > > > > > > --- Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Alex, > > > > > Just to add. > > > > > > > > > > Rahu influencing mercury, shows that these > > > > learnings > > > > > come through research.. Rahu influencing > 5th, > > > > > doesn't > > > > > however show Jyotish ability. > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, Visti. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________ > > > > > > > > Get your free @.co.uk address at > > > > http://mail..co.uk > > > > or your free @.ie address at > > > > http://mail..ie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant > messaging with > > Messenger. http://im. > > > > > > > > > Archives: > vedic astrology > > > > > > Group info: > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > vedic astrology- > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: > vedic astrology > > > > Group info: > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > vedic astrology- > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Sponsor > > Archives: > vedic astrology > > Group info: > vedic astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu > || > > Your use of is subject to > > > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Messenger. http://im. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2001 Report Share Posted September 26, 2001 Sanjay, What is the connection between the 11th house and AK for an interest in jyotish? I just realised that the AK is also placed in its own nakshatra which is again 11th lord. Looking at the chart of another very enthusiastic student of astrology, a friend in Australia, her AK is also mars, placed in the nakshatra of a planet in the 11th. AK is placed in the 2nd in own sign Aries(asc Pisces). Another astrological friend, AK Rahu in the 3rd is aspected by 11th ruler Mars from the 12th by both graha and rasi aspect. Asc Cap. Rahu in the sign and nakshatra of jupiter and also parivarthana with jupiter. Rahu dasa was pretty good for him materially, but a lot of learning and turmoil. As a control, another friend who has absolutely no interest whatsoever in jyotish, AK venus has absolutely no connection with 11th house lord sun - neither nakshatra or aspect or anything. Best Regards, Nimmi - "Sanjay Rath" <srath <vedic astrology> Wednesday, September 26, 2001 4:10 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Combinations for astrologers > > > Om Gurave Namah > -------------------------- > Dear Jyotisha, > Can we check as to how many of you have any relationship between the 11th > house and your Atmakaraka, either placement Lordship, aspect or > conjunction... > Best Wishes > Sanjay Rath > - > balaji srinivasan <sri_balaji > <vedic astrology> > Tuesday, September 25, 2001 5:12 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Combinations for astrologers > > > > I can say Mercury in virgo helps and is good enough. > > Even without the aid of other planets he helps in > > Jyotish. > > Rahu with Budha can probably give Mantra Siddhi as > > Rahu is an occult planet. Beyond that I don't see Rahu > > having much to do with astrology. > > I would favor Kethu, Guru and Budha. > > > > regards, > > Balaji S. > > > > > > --- Anand K <adithyaputra wrote: > > > I would also say that Rahu in the 5th with the 5th > > > lord (if Me) makes the native an astrologer. If this > > > is in Virgo, nothing like it. Would there be any > > > exceptions to this observation? > > > regards > > > K.Anand > > > > > > --- Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Alex, > > > > Just to add. > > > > > > > > Rahu influencing mercury, shows that these > > > learnings > > > > come through research.. Rahu influencing 5th, > > > > doesn't > > > > however show Jyotish ability. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, Visti. > > > > > > > > > > > __________ > > > > > > Get your free @.co.uk address at > > > http://mail..co.uk > > > or your free @.ie address at > > > http://mail..ie > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with > Messenger. http://im. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2001 Report Share Posted September 26, 2001 Dear Sanjay, My ascendant is on the border, according to one lagna, I have Atmakaraka in the 11th house, accroding to the other Atmakaraka is the lord of the 11th house. Foiled again in trying to rectify my lagna! I also have Rahu in 5th from swamsa. Best wishes, --aphoton Sanjay Rath wrote: Om Gurave Namah--------------------------Dear Jyotisha,Can we check as to how many of you have any relationship between the 11thhouse and your Atmakaraka, either placement Lordship, aspect orconjunction...Best WishesSanjay Rath-balaji srinivasan <sri_balaji ><vedic astrology>Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 5:12 PMRe: [vedic astrology] Combinations for astrologers I can say Mercury in virgo helps and is good enough.Even without the aid of other planets he helps inJyotish.Rahu with Budha can probably give Mantra Siddhi asRahu is an occult planet. Beyond that I don't see Rahuhaving much to do with astrology.I would favor Kethu, Guru and Budha.regards,Balaji S.--- Anand K <adithyaputra (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: I would also say that Rahu in the 5th with the 5thlord (if Me) makes the native an astrologer. If thisis in Virgo, nothing like it. Would there be anyexceptions to this observation?regardsK.Anand --- Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream > wrote: Dear Alex, Just to add.Rahu influencing mercury, shows that these learnings come through research.. Rahu influencing 5th,doesn'thowever show Jyotish ability.Best wishes, Visti. __________ Get your free @.co.uk address athttp://mail..co.ukor your free @.ie address athttp://mail..ie Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Messenger. http://im. Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||Your use of is subject to ------------------------ Sponsor ---------------------~-->Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheckMonitoring Service trialhttp://us.click./MDsVHB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/.8XolB/TM---~->Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ...... ..Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2001 Report Share Posted September 26, 2001 Respected Sanjayji, I have Taurus lagna and Moon as Ak Placed in gemini having Rasi aspect to 11th house(Pisces). Also dispositor of AK Mercury is in 8th(sagitarius) and having rasi aspect to 11th. However I am still a student and a long way to go to qualify as an astrologer. Thanks and with best regards L Brahma >"Sanjay Rath" <srath >vedic astrology ><vedic astrology> >Re: [vedic astrology] Combinations for astrologers >Wed, 26 Sep 2001 20:40:16 +0530 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from [216.115.96.56] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id >MHotMailBD7B494A00724004371ED87360385F6A46; Wed, 26 Sep 2001 09:12:41 -0700 >Received: from [10.1.4.54] by hm. with NNFMP; 26 Sep 2001 >16:10:02 -0000 >Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 26 Sep 2001 16:10:01 -0000 >Received: (qmail 88684 invoked from network); 26 Sep 2001 16:10:01 -0000 >Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8. with QMQP; 26 Sep >2001 16:10:01 -0000 >Received: from unknown (HELO nda.vsnl.net.in) (202.54.15.1) by mta3 with >SMTP; 26 Sep 2001 16:10:00 -0000 >Received: from oemcomputer (unknown [203.197.193.126])by nda.vsnl.net.in >(Postfix) with SMTP id 35E8840C14for <vedic astrology>; >Wed, 26 Sep 2001 21:41:28 +0530 (IST) >From sentto-1229044-5977-1001520601-lbrahma Wed, 26 Sep 2001 09:14:33 -0700 >X-eGroups-Return: >sentto-1229044-5977-1001520601-lbrahma=hotmail.com (AT) returns (DOT) >X-Sender: srath >X-Apparently-vedic astrology >Message-ID: <00b501c146a5$af5f6fa0$7ec1c5cb@oemcomputer> >References: <20010925114240.22193.qmail >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 >Mailing-List: list vedic astrology; contact >vedic astrology-owner >Delivered-mailing list vedic astrology >Precedence: bulk >List-Un: <vedic astrology> > > >Om Gurave Namah >-------------------------- >Dear Jyotisha, >Can we check as to how many of you have any relationship between the 11th >house and your Atmakaraka, either placement Lordship, aspect or >conjunction... >Best Wishes >Sanjay Rath >- >balaji srinivasan <sri_balaji ><vedic astrology> >Tuesday, September 25, 2001 5:12 PM >Re: [vedic astrology] Combinations for astrologers > > > > I can say Mercury in virgo helps and is good enough. > > Even without the aid of other planets he helps in > > Jyotish. > > Rahu with Budha can probably give Mantra Siddhi as > > Rahu is an occult planet. Beyond that I don't see Rahu > > having much to do with astrology. > > I would favor Kethu, Guru and Budha. > > > > regards, > > Balaji S. > > > > > > --- Anand K <adithyaputra wrote: > > > I would also say that Rahu in the 5th with the 5th > > > lord (if Me) makes the native an astrologer. If this > > > is in Virgo, nothing like it. Would there be any > > > exceptions to this observation? > > > regards > > > K.Anand > > > > > > --- Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Alex, > > > > Just to add. > > > > > > > > Rahu influencing mercury, shows that these > > > learnings > > > > come through research.. Rahu influencing 5th, > > > > doesn't > > > > however show Jyotish ability. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, Visti. > > > > > > > > > > > __________ > > > > > > Get your free @.co.uk address at > > > http://mail..co.uk > > > or your free @.ie address at > > > http://mail..ie > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with >Messenger. http://im. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > _______________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2001 Report Share Posted September 26, 2001 Have not been able to understand the link between Ak , 11th, and astrology yet...... Any insights........ Kind Regards, SA "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660 on 09/26/2001 10:29:57 AM Please respond to vedic astrology <vedic astrology> cc: Re: [vedic astrology] Combinations for astrologers My 11th lord is my AK. In addition dispositor is also in 11th, if that is relevant. Nimmi - "Sanjay Rath" <srath <vedic astrology> Wednesday, September 26, 2001 4:10 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Combinations for astrologers > > > Om Gurave Namah > -------------------------- > Dear Jyotisha, > Can we check as to how many of you have any relationship between the 11th > house and your Atmakaraka, either placement Lordship, aspect or > conjunction... > Best Wishes > Sanjay Rath > - > balaji srinivasan <sri_balaji > <vedic astrology> > Tuesday, September 25, 2001 5:12 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Combinations for astrologers > > > > I can say Mercury in virgo helps and is good enough. > > Even without the aid of other planets he helps in > > Jyotish. > > Rahu with Budha can probably give Mantra Siddhi as > > Rahu is an occult planet. Beyond that I don't see Rahu > > having much to do with astrology. > > I would favor Kethu, Guru and Budha. > > > > regards, > > Balaji S. > > > > > > --- Anand K <adithyaputra wrote: > > > I would also say that Rahu in the 5th with the 5th > > > lord (if Me) makes the native an astrologer. If this > > > is in Virgo, nothing like it. Would there be any > > > exceptions to this observation? > > > regards > > > K.Anand > > > > > > --- Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Alex, > > > > Just to add. > > > > > > > > Rahu influencing mercury, shows that these > > > learnings > > > > come through research.. Rahu influencing 5th, > > > > doesn't > > > > however show Jyotish ability. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, Visti. > > > > > > > > > > > __________ > > > > > > Get your free @.co.uk address at > > > http://mail..co.uk > > > or your free @.ie address at > > > http://mail..ie > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with > Messenger. http://im. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2001 Report Share Posted September 26, 2001 Hare Rama Krishna, Pranam GuruDeva, My Karakamsa is Sag (Vargottam).The Eleventh Lord of the Rasi, in Navamsa(in Pi) aspects Karakamsa. There is no aspect in Rasi. Lagnamsa is second to the Karakamsa, Does this mean in some way I myself will be the karaka for my soul? Rasi-Gm lagna Nav-Pi lagna AK-Moon vargottam in Sag Mercury in Gm in Rasi Mercury in Cap in Nav. Thanks, Rema --- Sanjay Rath <srath wrote: > > Om Gurave Namah > -------------------------- > Dear Jyotisha, > Can we check as to how many of you have any > relationship between the 11th > house and your Atmakaraka, either placement > Lordship, aspect or > conjunction... > Best Wishes > Sanjay Rath > - > balaji srinivasan <sri_balaji > <vedic astrology> > Tuesday, September 25, 2001 5:12 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Combinations for > astrologers > > > > I can say Mercury in virgo helps and is good > enough. > > Even without the aid of other planets he helps in > > Jyotish. > > Rahu with Budha can probably give Mantra Siddhi as > > Rahu is an occult planet. Beyond that I don't see > Rahu > > having much to do with astrology. > > I would favor Kethu, Guru and Budha. > > > > regards, > > Balaji S. > > > > > > --- Anand K <adithyaputra wrote: > > > I would also say that Rahu in the 5th with the > 5th > > > lord (if Me) makes the native an astrologer. If > this > > > is in Virgo, nothing like it. Would there be any > > > exceptions to this observation? > > > regards > > > K.Anand > > > > > > --- Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream > wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Alex, > > > > Just to add. > > > > > > > > Rahu influencing mercury, shows that these > > > learnings > > > > come through research.. Rahu influencing 5th, > > > > doesn't > > > > however show Jyotish ability. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, Visti. > > > > > > > > > > > > __________ > > > > > > Get your free @.co.uk address at > > > http://mail..co.uk > > > or your free @.ie address at > > > http://mail..ie > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant > messaging with > Messenger. http://im. > > > > > > Archives: > vedic astrology > > > > Group info: > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > vedic astrology- > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > ===== Rema Menon Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Messenger. http://im. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2001 Report Share Posted September 26, 2001 Nimmi, My college-going daughter has the Sun as atmakaraka in the 11th. She has absolutely no interest in astrology. Something might have seeped in, but she will never admit it. Best, --aphoton Nimmi Ragavan wrote: Sanjay,What is the connection between the 11th house and AK for an interest injyotish? I just realised that the AK is also placed in its own nakshatrawhich is again 11th lord.Looking at the chart of another very enthusiastic student of astrology, afriend in Australia, her AK is also mars, placed in the nakshatra of aplanet in the 11th. AK is placed in the 2nd in own sign Aries(asc Pisces).Another astrological friend, AK Rahu in the 3rd is aspected by 11th rulerMars from the 12th by both graha and rasi aspect. Asc Cap. Rahu in the signand nakshatra of jupiter and also parivarthana with jupiter. Rahu dasa waspretty good for him materially, but a lot of learning and turmoil.As a control, another friend who has absolutely no interest whatsoever injyotish, AK venus has absolutely no connection with 11th house lord sun -neither nakshatra or aspect or anything.Best Regards,Nimmi- "Sanjay Rath" <srath (AT) vsnl (DOT) com><vedic astrology>Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 4:10 PMRe: [vedic astrology] Combinations for astrologers Om Gurave Namah--------------------------Dear Jyotisha,Can we check as to how many of you have any relationship between the 11thhouse and your Atmakaraka, either placement Lordship, aspect orconjunction...Best WishesSanjay Rath-balaji srinivasan <sri_balaji ><vedic astrology>Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 5:12 PMRe: [vedic astrology] Combinations for astrologers I can say Mercury in virgo helps and is good enough.Even without the aid of other planets he helps inJyotish.Rahu with Budha can probably give Mantra Siddhi asRahu is an occult planet. Beyond that I don't see Rahuhaving much to do with astrology.I would favor Kethu, Guru and Budha.regards,Balaji S.--- Anand K <adithyaputra (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: I would also say that Rahu in the 5th with the 5thlord (if Me) makes the native an astrologer. If thisis in Virgo, nothing like it. Would there be anyexceptions to this observation?regardsK.Anand --- Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream > wrote: Dear Alex, Just to add.Rahu influencing mercury, shows that these learnings come through research.. Rahu influencing 5th,doesn'thowever show Jyotish ability.Best wishes, Visti. __________ Get your free @.co.uk address athttp://mail..co.ukor your free @.ie address athttp://mail..ie Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Messenger. http://im. Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||Your use of is subject to Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||Your use of is subject to ------------------------ Sponsor ---------------------~-->FREE COLLEGE MONEYCLICK HERE to search600,000 scholarships!http://us.click./ujOgTC/4m7CAA/ySSFAA/.8XolB/TM---~->Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......< br="">|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2001 Report Share Posted September 26, 2001 Dear List, Ascendant of My chart is Ascendant: AK is Sun is conjoined with exalted 11th lord Jupiter in 6th house. D-9: Karakamsa and 11th lord from Karakamsa are in mutual Rasi aspect Regards, Venkat > Om Gurave Namah > -------------------------- > Dear Jyotisha, > Can we check as to how many of you have any relationship between the 11th > house and your Atmakaraka, either placement Lordship, aspect or > conjunction... > Best Wishes > Sanjay Rath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2001 Report Share Posted September 26, 2001 On a further note: I just checked my archives; surprisingly there are a large number of charts which have this connection. What really is the hypothesis here?? Could this be a rectification technique? Best Regards, SA "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660 on 09/26/2001 11:33:58 AM Please respond to vedic astrology <vedic astrology> cc: Re: [vedic astrology] Combinations for astrologers Sanjay, What is the connection between the 11th house and AK for an interest in jyotish? I just realised that the AK is also placed in its own nakshatra which is again 11th lord. Looking at the chart of another very enthusiastic student of astrology, a friend in Australia, her AK is also mars, placed in the nakshatra of a planet in the 11th. AK is placed in the 2nd in own sign Aries(asc Pisces). Another astrological friend, AK Rahu in the 3rd is aspected by 11th ruler Mars from the 12th by both graha and rasi aspect. Asc Cap. Rahu in the sign and nakshatra of jupiter and also parivarthana with jupiter. Rahu dasa was pretty good for him materially, but a lot of learning and turmoil. As a control, another friend who has absolutely no interest whatsoever in jyotish, AK venus has absolutely no connection with 11th house lord sun - neither nakshatra or aspect or anything. Best Regards, Nimmi - "Sanjay Rath" <srath <vedic astrology> Wednesday, September 26, 2001 4:10 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Combinations for astrologers > > > Om Gurave Namah > -------------------------- > Dear Jyotisha, > Can we check as to how many of you have any relationship between the 11th > house and your Atmakaraka, either placement Lordship, aspect or > conjunction... > Best Wishes > Sanjay Rath > - > balaji srinivasan <sri_balaji > <vedic astrology> > Tuesday, September 25, 2001 5:12 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Combinations for astrologers > > > > I can say Mercury in virgo helps and is good enough. > > Even without the aid of other planets he helps in > > Jyotish. > > Rahu with Budha can probably give Mantra Siddhi as > > Rahu is an occult planet. Beyond that I don't see Rahu > > having much to do with astrology. > > I would favor Kethu, Guru and Budha. > > > > regards, > > Balaji S. > > > > > > --- Anand K <adithyaputra wrote: > > > I would also say that Rahu in the 5th with the 5th > > > lord (if Me) makes the native an astrologer. If this > > > is in Virgo, nothing like it. Would there be any > > > exceptions to this observation? > > > regards > > > K.Anand > > > > > > --- Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Alex, > > > > Just to add. > > > > > > > > Rahu influencing mercury, shows that these > > > learnings > > > > come through research.. Rahu influencing 5th, > > > > doesn't > > > > however show Jyotish ability. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, Visti. > > > > > > > > > > > __________ > > > > > > Get your free @.co.uk address at > > > http://mail..co.uk > > > or your free @.ie address at > > > http://mail..ie > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with > Messenger. http://im. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2001 Report Share Posted September 26, 2001 Dear Sir, a)Lagan:Mesha with Ketu in Bharni Nakshtra b)Atmakarka same as lagna lord:Mangal (with Guru and Rahu in Tula) c)11 th Lord Shani (combust) with 5th Lord Surya in 8th house in Virschik Rashi . d)Shani aspecting Shukra(sign dispositor of Atmakarka)in Makara (10th house) e)1st(Atmakarka) and 9th lord in each others nakashtra in 7th house. With regards Jagmeet -- These calculations were made using "Jagannatha Hora Lite". It is a free software from Sri Jagannath Vedic Centre. You can download it from http://www.geocities.com/~astrowhiz or http://www.sjvc.net. -- Date of Birth: December 11, 1957 Time of Birth: 3:06:19 pm Time Zone of Birth: 5:30 East of GMT Longitude of Birth: 75 E 50 Latitude of Birth: 30 N 14 Lunar month (maasa): Margasira Lunar day (tithi): Krishna Panchami Tithi balance: 0.6024 Nakshatra balance: 0.8559 Sun-Moon Yoga: Indra Sun-Moon Karana: Kaulava Vara (weekday): Wednesday Sunrise = 7:13 am (Apparent rise - upper limb) Ayanamsa = 23-16-22 Dasa year length chosen = 360.0000 days Planet Position Pada CharaK Ascdt 18 Ar 01 Bharani 2 - Sun 25 Sc 48 Jyeshtha 3 AmK Moon 18 Cn 35 Aasresha 1 MK Mars 28 Li 42 Visakha 3 AK Mercury 16 Sg 15 Poo.Shaa. 1 PiK Jupiter 2 Li 15 Chitra 3 DK Venus 10 Cp 33 Sravanam 1 GK Saturn 23 Sc 45 Jyeshtha 3 BK Rahu 15 Li 11 Swathi 3 PK Ketu 15 Ar 11 Bharani 1 - BhavaLg 23 Pi 46 Revathi 3 - HoraLg 22 Cn 03 Aasresha 2 - GhatiLg 16 Cn 55 Aasresha 1 - Dhooma 9 Ar 08 Aswini 3 - Vyati 20 Pi 51 Revathi 2 - Pari 20 Vi 51 Hastha 4 - I.Chapa 9 Li 08 Swathi 1 - Upaketu 25 Li 48 Visakha 2 - Kaala 17 Pi 08 Revathi 1 - Mrityu 6 Ta 51 Krittika 4 - ArthaPr 24 Sc 39 Jyeshtha 3 - YamaGha 12 Sg 01 Moola 4 - Mandi 6 Aq 00 Dhanishtha 4 - Gulika 23 Cp 32 Dhanishtha 1 - +----------------------+ | | | | | | | Ket | | | | BL | | | | | | Asc | | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | GL | | | | | | Mnd | | Moo | | | | | | | | HL | |-------------| R A S I |-------------| | | | | | Ven | | | | | | | | Glk | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | Jup | | | | Sat | | | | Mer | | Rah | | | | Sun | | | | | | Mar | | +----------------------+ +----------------------+ | | | | | | | | | | | | Ven | | Mar | | | | | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | Rah Sat | | | | | | | | Sun BL | | | | | | | |-------------| N A V A M S A |-------------| | | | Ket | | | | | | HL | | Mer | | | | | | | | Glk | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | GL | | | | | | Mnd | Jup | Asc | | Moo | | | | | | | | | +----------------------+ Vimsottari Dasa: Merc 1957-12-11 Venu 1958-11-18 Sun 1961-09-03 Moon 1962-07-06 Mars 1963-11-28 Rahu 1964-11-19 Jupi 1967-05-26 Satu 1969-08-19 Ketu 1972-04-14 Venu 1972-09-08 Sun 1973-11-02 Moon 1974-03-08 Mars 1974-10-04 Rahu 1975-02-28 Jupi 1976-03-12 Satu 1977-02-11 Merc 1978-03-17 Venu 1979-03-09 Sun 1982-06-21 Moon 1983-06-16 Mars 1985-02-05 Rahu 1986-04-01 Jupi 1989-03-16 Satu 1991-11-01 Merc 1994-12-15 Ketu 1997-09-30 Sun 1998-11-24 Moon 1999-03-12 Mars 1999-09-08 Rahu 2000-01-12 Jupi 2000-12-01 Satu 2001-09-15 Merc 2002-08-23 Ketu 2003-06-25 Venu 2003-10-29 Moon 2004-10-23 Mars 2005-08-19 Rahu 2006-03-17 Jupi 2007-09-08 Satu 2008-12-31 Merc 2010-07-24 Ketu 2011-12-16 Venu 2012-07-13 Sun 2014-03-05 Mars 2014-09-01 Rahu 2015-01-26 Jupi 2016-02-08 Satu 2017-01-09 Merc 2018-02-12 Ketu 2019-02-04 Venu 2019-07-01 Sun 2020-08-24 Moon 2020-12-28 Rahu 2021-07-26 Jupi 2024-03-24 Satu 2026-08-05 Merc 2029-05-27 Ketu 2031-12-01 Venu 2032-12-13 Sun 2035-11-28 Moon 2036-10-17 Mars 2038-04-10 Jupi 2039-04-23 Satu 2041-05-30 Merc 2043-11-28 Ketu 2046-02-21 Venu 2047-01-23 Sun 2049-09-09 Moon 2050-06-24 Mars 2051-10-17 Rahu 2052-09-17 Satu 2055-01-29 Merc 2058-01-16 Ketu 2060-09-11 Venu 2061-10-15 Sun 2064-11-28 Moon 2065-11-05 Mars 2067-05-29 Rahu 2068-07-01 Jupi 2071-04-23 Ashtottari Dasa: Sun 1957-12-11 Venu 1958-01-22 Moon 1959-03-18 Mars 1961-04-06 Merc 1962-05-11 Satu 1964-09-07 Jupi 1966-01-20 Rahu 1968-08-27 Venu 1970-04-19 Sun 1973-03-04 Mars 1973-12-29 Merc 1974-07-30 Satu 1975-10-27 Jupi 1976-07-19 Rahu 1977-12-08 Venu 1978-10-24 Sun 1980-05-06 Moon 1980-10-13 Merc 1981-11-17 Satu 1984-07-07 Jupi 1986-01-25 Rahu 1989-01-06 Venu 1990-11-17 Sun 1994-02-19 Moon 1995-01-25 Mars 1997-05-24 Satu 1998-08-20 Jupi 1999-07-19 Rahu 2001-04-13 Venu 2002-05-18 Sun 2004-04-17 Moon 2004-11-03 Mars 2006-03-18 Merc 2006-12-09 Jupi 2008-06-28 Rahu 2011-10-14 Venu 2013-11-12 Sun 2017-07-04 Moon 2018-07-19 Mars 2021-02-23 Merc 2022-07-15 Satu 2025-06-26 Rahu 2027-03-21 Venu 2028-07-13 Sun 2030-10-31 Moon 2031-06-28 Mars 2033-02-17 Merc 2034-01-03 Satu 2035-11-14 Jupi 2036-12-18 Venu 2039-01-17 Sun 2043-01-26 Moon 2044-03-21 Mars 2047-02-04 Merc 2048-08-17 Satu 2051-11-20 Jupi 2053-10-20 Rahu 2057-06-11 Sun 2059-09-29 Moon 2060-01-27 Mars 2060-11-22 Merc 2061-05-01 Satu 2062-04-06 Jupi 2062-10-23 Rahu 2063-11-07 Venu 2064-07-04 Kalachakra Dasa: Le 1957-12-11 Vi 1958-04-23 Li 1959-02-09 Sc 1960-07-11 Sg 1961-02-23 Ar 1962-01-13 Ta 1962-08-28 Ge 1964-01-28 Cn 1964-11-15 Le 1966-09-26 Li 1967-03-07 Sc 1969-09-14 Sg 1970-10-22 Ar 1972-05-20 Ta 1973-06-27 Ge 1976-01-05 Cn 1977-06-06 Le 1980-09-28 Vi 1981-07-13 Sc 1982-12-13 Sg 1983-06-07 Ar 1984-02-14 Ta 1984-08-09 Ge 1985-09-16 Cn 1986-05-01 Le 1987-10-12 Vi 1988-02-15 Li 1988-09-29 Sg 1989-11-06 Ar 1990-11-01 Ta 1991-07-11 Ge 1993-02-06 Cn 1993-12-27 Le 1996-01-22 Vi 1996-07-20 Li 1997-06-09 Sc 1999-01-06 Cp 1999-09-15 Aq 1999-11-22 Pi 2000-01-28 Sc 2000-07-16 Li 2000-11-11 Vi 2001-08-09 Cn 2002-01-09 Le 2002-12-31 Ge 2003-03-25 Aq 2003-08-25 Pi 2003-11-01 Sc 2004-04-18 Li 2004-08-15 Vi 2005-05-13 Cn 2005-10-12 Le 2006-10-03 Ge 2006-12-27 Cp 2007-05-28 Pi 2007-08-04 Sc 2008-09-30 Li 2009-07-24 Vi 2011-06-02 Cn 2012-06-17 Le 2014-11-23 Ge 2015-06-23 Cp 2016-07-08 Aq 2016-12-24 Sc 2017-06-12 Li 2018-01-05 Vi 2019-04-25 Cn 2020-01-17 Le 2021-09-30 Ge 2022-02-25 Cp 2022-11-19 Aq 2023-03-18 Pi 2023-07-14 Li 2024-05-06 Vi 2027-04-25 Cn 2028-12-25 Le 2032-11-17 Ge 2033-10-22 Cp 2035-06-24 Aq 2036-03-21 Pi 2036-12-17 Sc 2038-10-26 Vi 2040-02-12 Cn 2041-01-20 Le 2043-03-31 Ge 2043-10-08 Cp 2044-09-15 Aq 2045-02-15 Pi 2045-07-17 Sc 2046-08-02 Li 2047-04-26 Cn 2048-12-26 Le 2054-02-06 Ge 2055-04-26 Cp 2057-07-05 Aq 2058-06-26 Pi 2059-06-16 Sc 2061-11-22 Li 2063-08-06 Vi 2067-06-29 Ashtakavarga Tables (before reduction): Ar Ta Ge Cn Le Vi Li Sc Sg Cp Aq Pi Sun 3 5 6 5 5 5 2 4* 4 2 5 2 Moon 6 4 4 5* 3 7 3 2 3 5 3 4 Mars 4 4 3 3 5 5 2* 3 2 3 3 2 Merc 6 7 2 4 6 6 4 5 3* 3 5 3 Jupi 5 7 2 4 6 4 6* 5 4 7 3 3 Venu 3 5 6 4 7 5 4 3 2 3* 6 4 Satu 2 3 3 3 4 7 1 3* 4 2 4 3 Total 29 35 26 28 36 39 22 25 22 25 29 21 Ashtakavarga Tables (after reduction): Ar Ta Ge Cn Le Vi Li Sc Sg Cp Aq Pi Sun 0 3 3 3 2 3 0 2 1 0 3 0 Moon 3 0 1 3 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 2 Mars 2 1 1 1 3 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 Merc 3 2 0 1 3 3 2 2 0 0 3 0 Jupi 1 0 0 1 2 0 4 2 0 3 0 0 Venu 1 2 0 1 5 0 0 0 0 0 2 1 Satu 0 1 2 0 2 2 0 0 2 0 3 0 Total 7 10 4 7 14 4 0 4 0 0 7 0 Sodya Pindas: RasiP GrahaP SodyaP Rasi Nakshatra Sun 159 40 199 Aq Dhanishtha Moon 75 22 97 Cn Makha Mars 90 15 105 Sg U.Pha. Merc 153 61 214 Cn Moola Jupi 90 118 208 Pi Aardra Venu 115 5 120 Pi Aasresha Satu 107 10 117 Ge Aasresha +----------------------+ | | | | | | | | Ket Asc | | | BL | Jup | | | | | | Rah Mar | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | Sat | | | | | | | | Sun | | | | | |-------------| H O R A |-------------| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | GL Moo | | | | Mnd | | Ven | Mer | | | HL Glk | | | | | | | | +----------------------+ +----------------------+ | | | | | | | | | | | HL | Mer | Ven | Mar | | | | | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | Rah | | Sat | | | | | | Mnd | | Sun | | | | | |-------------| D - 3 |-------------| | | | | | | | Ket | | | | | | | | Asc | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | GL | | | | | | | | | | Moo | Jup | Glk | | | | | | | | BL | | | +----------------------+ +----------------------+ | | | | | | | Rah | | | | | | | Mer | | | Ven | | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | | | Mnd | | Mar | | | | | | | | | |-------------| D - 4 |-------------| | GL | | | | | | Sat | | Moo | | | | | | Sun | | HL | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | | Ket Asc | | | BL | | | | | | | Jup Glk | | | | | | | +----------------------+ +----------------------+ | | | | | | | | | | | GL | Jup | | Asc | | | | | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | | | Mnd | | | | | | | | | | | |-------------| D - 5 |-------------| | Moo HL | | | | | | | | Sat | | | | | | | | Glk BL | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | Ket | | | | | | | | | | Rah | Sun | Mar | Ven | | | | | | | Mer | | | | +----------------------+ +----------------------+ | | | | | | | | | | | Sun | Jup | Mnd | | | | | | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | HL Sat | | Ket Asc | | | | | | Glk BL | | Rah Mer | | | | | |-------------| D - 6 |-------------| | | | | | GL | | | | | | | | Moo | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | | | | | Ven | | | Mar | | | | | | | | | | | +----------------------+ +----------------------+ | | | | | | Mer | GL | | | | | | Moo | HL | | Mnd | Mar | | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | | | BL | | Ket | | | | | | | | | |-------------| D - 7 |-------------| | | | | | | | | | Rah | | Asc | | | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | | Jup | | | Glk | Sun | | Ven | | | | Sat | | | | | | | +----------------------+ +----------------------+ | | | | Sat | | | | | | | | Jup | | Sun | | | | | | | | | | Ven | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | | | BL | | | | | | | | | | | |-------------| D - 8 |-------------| | | | Ket Asc | | | | | | Mnd | | GL | | | | | | | | Moo Rah | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | | | | | Mer | Mar | Glk | HL | | | | | | | | | | | +----------------------+ +----------------------+ | | | | | | Rah | Glk | | | | | | Mer | BL | | Sun | Mnd | | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | | | Sat | | Mar | | | | | | | | | |-------------| D - 1 0 |-------------| | | | | | | | | | | | GL | | | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | Asc | | | | | | Ket | | Ven | | HL | | | | | | Moo | | | | Jup | | +----------------------+ +----------------------+ | | | | | | Rah | | | | | | | Sat | Sun | | Glk | | | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | GL | | | | | | | | Moo | | | | | |-------------| D - 1 1 |-------------| | | | | | Mer | | Mar | | | | | | BL | | Mnd | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | Asc | | | | | | Ket | | | | Jup | | | | | | HL | | | | Ven | | +----------------------+ +----------------------+ | | | | | | | Rah | | | | HL | | Ven | Mer | | | Mnd | | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | | | Moo | | | | | | | | | | | |-------------| D - 1 2 |-------------| | | | | | | | | | GL | | Sat | | | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | Ket | | | | | | Mar | | BL | Asc | Jup | | | | | | Sun | | | | Glk | | +----------------------+ +----------------------+ | | | | | | | | | | | HL | Glk | Jup | | | | | | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | | | | | Mar | | | | | | | | | |-------------| D - 1 6 |-------------| | Asc | | | | | | Sat | | GL | | | | | | Mer | | Moo | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | Ket | | | | | | | | Sun | | Rah | Mnd | | | | | | | Ven | | BL | | | | +----------------------+ +----------------------+ | | Asc | | | | GL | | Jup | HL | | | Moo | | | | Sat | | Sun | Mer | | | Mnd | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | Ket | | | | | | Glk | | Rah | | | | | | | |-------------| D - 2 0 |-------------| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | Mar | | | | | | | | | | Ven | | | | | | | | | | BL | | | +----------------------+ +----------------------+ | | | | | | Sun | | | | | | | | Mar | | Ven | | | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | Sat | | | | | | | | BL | | | | | | | |-------------| D - 2 4 |-------------| | | | Ket | | | | | | Glk | | GL | | | | | | | | Rah | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | Moo | | HL | | | | | | | Asc | Jup | | Mnd | | | | | | | | Mer | +----------------------+ +----------------------+ | | GL | | | | | | Ket | | | Mnd | Ven | | Mer | | | | Moo | | | | Glk | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-------------| D - 2 7 |-------------| | | | | | | | Asc | | | | | | | | HL | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | Jup | Rah | Sat | | | | | | | | Sun | Mar | BL | | | | | | | +----------------------+ +----------------------+ | | | | | | GL | | | | | | Jup | | Asc | | Moo | | | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | | | Mnd | | | | | | | | | | | |-------------| D - 3 0 |-------------| | | | | | HL Sat | | | | | | | | Glk BL | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | Ket | | | | | | | | | | Rah | Sun | Mar | Ven | | | | | | | Mer | | | | +----------------------+ +----------------------+ | | | Sat | | | | | | | | HL | Asc | Glk | Mar | | | | | | | | | BL | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | | | | | Jup | | | | | | | | | |-------------| D - 4 0 |-------------| | | | | | | | GL | | Mer | | | | | | Sun | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | Ket Rah | | | | | | | Moo | | | Ven Mnd | | | | | | | | | +----------------------+ +----------------------+ | | | | | | | | GL | | | Glk | | | | | | | Mnd | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | Asc Moo | | Ket | | | | | | Jup | | Rah | | | | | | Sat Ven | |-------------| D - 4 5 |-------------| | | | | | | | | | HL | | | | | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | Mar | | | | Mer | | Sun | | | | BL | | | | | | | | +----------------------+ +----------------------+ | | Asc | | | | | | | | | HL | GL | | | | | | | | | | Rah | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | Jup Sun | | | | | | Mar | | Mnd BL | | | | | | | |-------------| D - 6 0 |-------------| | | | | | | | Moo | | | | | | | | Mer | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | Ket | | | | | | | | Glk | | Sat | | | | | | | | | | Ven | | +----------------------+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2001 Report Share Posted September 26, 2001 Dear Sanjay, Atmakaraka is Venus, dispositor of 11th lord Mercury who is also the 11th lord from AL. Venus is 11th lord from Moon. Also Venus is posited in A11 in the 9th house. best regards, Alex J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2001 Report Share Posted September 26, 2001 Dear Jagmeet, > Dear Sir, > b)Atmakarka same as lagna lord:Mangal (with Guru and Rahu in Tula) > c)11 th Lord Shani (combust) with 5th Lord Surya in 8th house in Virschik > Rashi . > > Planet Position Pada CharaK > > Ascdt 18 Ar 01 Bharani 2 - > Mars 28 Li 42 Visakha 3 AK > Saturn 23 Sc 45 Jyeshtha 3 BK > Rahu 15 Li 11 Swathi 3 PK Mars aspects 11th (use only rasi aspect to evaluate Sanjay's rule). He also joins your 11th lord Rahu. The links Sanjay wanted are there. * * * My birthdata is given below: P.V.R. Narasimha Rao Natal Chart April 4, 1970 Time: 17:48:17 Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Longitude: 81 E 12' 00" Latitude: 16 N 15' 00" The 11th house is Cancer. Its lord is Moon. He is my atmakaraka (AK). Sanjay's rule holds true in my case. Of course, there are counter-examples like Dr. B.V. Raman. * * * Dear Sanjiv, > I just checked my archives; surprisingly there are a large number of charts > which have this connection. What really is the hypothesis here?? Could > this be a rectification technique? The 8th house shows the occult and hidden. Being the 4th house from the 8th house, the 11th house shows learning of occult subjects. Unless atma (soul) has some role in the learning of occult and hidden, one is unlikely to be an astrologer. That's the logic Sanjay told me once. Let us do some mathematical analysis. Let us say event A is "a given person's AK occupies/aspects 11th house". Let us say event B is "a given person's AK owns the 11th house". P(A) = 4/12 = 1/3. P(B) = ( 5 * (2/12) + 3 * (1/12) ) / 8 = 13/96. [Note: Only 5 planets own 2 rasis.] These are independent events. So P(A or B) = P(A) + P(B) - P(A)P(B) = 0.4236, i.e. 42%. So this is a rule satisfied in 42% of all people (astrologers and non-astrologers alike). Some people are relaxing the rule to include AK's conjunction/aspect on 11th lord. This will take the probability to 0.6158, i.e. 62%. With such high percentages of ALL people satisfying these rules, these rules do not necessarily imply an astrologer. However, if the percentage of astrologers satisfying these rules is higher than the above rules, it shows a statistically significant correlation between the rules and one being an astrologer. It will be interesting to see those numbers. If we have a "Jyotish University", this will be an interesting undergraduate project. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2001 Report Share Posted September 26, 2001 Hi, My 11th house is Pisces with Ketu in it. Atmakaraka is Me. in Virgo. The 11th house also has the aspect of Jupiter who is exalted in Cancer. Even Sun aspects the 11th who is the 4th house lord and is with the AK. Regards K.Anand --- Venkateshwara A Reddy <venkateshwara_reddy wrote: > Dear List, > Ascendant of My chart is Ascendant: AK is Sun is > conjoined with > exalted 11th lord Jupiter in 6th house. > D-9: Karakamsa and 11th lord from Karakamsa are in > mutual Rasi aspect > > Regards, Venkat > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > -------------------------- > > Dear Jyotisha, > > Can we check as to how many of you have any > relationship between > the 11th > > house and your Atmakaraka, either placement > Lordship, aspect or > > conjunction... > > Best Wishes > > Sanjay Rath > > > > ------------------------ Sponsor > > Archives: > vedic astrology > > Group info: > vedic astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu > || > > Your use of is subject to > > > __________ Get your free @.co.uk address at http://mail..co.uk or your free @.ie address at http://mail..ie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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