Guest guest Posted September 14, 2001 Report Share Posted September 14, 2001 dear narasimha, Mantreswara is not only a scholar,but also a great upasaka and siddha.He was called mantreswara because he was a mantra siddha,his original name is not that. can we conclude that only in ancient times we find rishis in this holy land, but not at any other times? This is how anything can pass under the name of Bhrigu etc.,if only some clever guy extrapolates anything without spoiling the rythm of original texts.what is wrong in accepting mantreswara if events tally with his dictums?Do you mean astro-prodigies like him and venkatesa,neelakanta,kesava,vaidyanatha,etc.cannot be relied upon just because they were not rishis of vedic times?Any pious man who leads a life of penance, self control and tapasya can be safely called a rishi.If new knowledge dawns upon him,are we justified in discarding it?The list of ancient rishis is not exhaustive and the treatises of 18 pravartakas of jyothisha are not fully available now.You have not answered my question of the authenticity of the so-called Bhrigu sutram yet.It appears to me that you are too much enaumoured by jupiter. namaskaar, sarma. --- pvr wrote: > Namaste Sri Sarma, > > > by the way if you argue that mantreswara is not a > > rishi, i cant help. > > thanks and namaskaar. > > sarma., > > Of course, it is natural to argue that Mantreswara > was in all > likelihood not a "rishi". He was a great scholar. > > You have shown references from Parasara for Venus > and Mars, but not > for Jupiter. How do you know that Mantreswara simply > did not > extrapolate from them? Moreover, "Bhrigu Sutram" > attributed to Sage > Bhrigu clearly contradits Mantreswara regarding > Jupiter in 5th. > > So, unless you quote a rishi (e.g. Bhrigu, Parasara, > Jaimini, Garga > etc) saying that Jupiter in 5th destroys 5th, I am > justified in > questioning it. > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > Narasimha > > > __________ Send a newsletter, share photos & files, conduct polls, organize chat events. Visit http://in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2001 Report Share Posted September 14, 2001 Namaste Sri Sarma, > his dictums?Do you mean astro-prodigies like him and > venkatesa,neelakanta,kesava,vaidyanatha,etc.cannot be > relied upon just because they were not rishis of vedic > times? Sages like Parasara, Bhrigu, Jaimini etc represent infallible divine knowledge. IMHO, the same thing cannot be said about modern authors. In any case, I understood that Sanjay's explanation was found acceptable by you and you withdrew from this topic... > You have not > answered my question of the authenticity of the > so-called Bhrigu sutram yet. I have. In my latest mail, I used the expression "Bhrigu Sutram attributed to Sage Bhrigu". Obviously, I recognize the fact that it is merely "attributed". Of course, authenticity cannot be guaranteed. In fact, that was my point from the beginning. You complained that the "so called astrologers" of today reject the teachings of rishis and I was trying to point out that not everything attributed to rishis was necessarily rishi proktam. There was some context change in our exchange and there may have been miscommunication... > It appears to me that you > are too much enaumoured by jupiter. I wish. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2001 Report Share Posted September 16, 2001 namaskar sri narasimha, As iam convinced by the analysis of sri sanjay rathji,i wish to stop this here.After all,it is the intuition and analytical ability of the interpreter that count as final.I would like to be in touch with you in times to come. thanks, satyanarayana sarma. --- pvr wrote: > Namaste Sri Sarma, > > > his dictums?Do you mean astro-prodigies like him > and > > venkatesa,neelakanta,kesava,vaidyanatha,etc.cannot > be > > relied upon just because they were not rishis of > vedic > > times? > > Sages like Parasara, Bhrigu, Jaimini etc represent > infallible divine > knowledge. IMHO, the same thing cannot be said about > modern authors. > > In any case, I understood that Sanjay's explanation > was found > acceptable by you and you withdrew from this > topic... > > > You have not > > answered my question of the authenticity of the > > so-called Bhrigu sutram yet. > > I have. In my latest mail, I used the expression > "Bhrigu Sutram > attributed to Sage Bhrigu". Obviously, I recognize > the fact that it > is merely "attributed". Of course, authenticity > cannot be guaranteed. > > In fact, that was my point from the beginning. You > complained that > the "so called astrologers" of today reject the > teachings of rishis > and I was trying to point out that not everything > attributed to > rishis was necessarily rishi proktam. > > There was some context change in our exchange and > there may have been > miscommunication... > > > It appears to me that you > > are too much enaumoured by jupiter. > > I wish. > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > Narasimha > > > __________ Send a newsletter, share photos & files, conduct polls, organize chat events. Visit http://in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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