Answers from Mr Rath for CoVA queries

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Dear All

 

I had consolidated a list of 13 queries after reading CoVA & sent to the

List. Mr Rath (ie the author, & the Guru of our List, etc) himself has

found the time to answer the first 4 of them. For everyone's benefit, I am

enclosing the original queries along with his replies which are in

capitals.

 

Given the current context of world affairs, Mr Rath's otherwise busy

schedule, & the plan of BPHS translation exercise ( I really hope that

happens), could I request somebody else knowledgeable, to please find the

time to answer the remaining questions.

 

Incidentally, regarding BPHS translation, I really hope he can find the

time & resources to do it: I'm sure most of us could & would contribute.

But more importantly, we need to know the total amount required, as many of

us are in industry & specifically in finance, & may know others outside

this List, who may wish to contribute for such an important exercise. Some

of us may also be in/ know publishers, etc, & may be able to organise

advances from them for such an exercise, etc.

 

Queries: (Note all abbreviations in previous message have been flushed out

& expanded in this one below):

 

1. Ghatak Rasi: I HAVE COVERED IT IN THE APPENDIX IN MY NEW BOOK ON

NARAYANA DASA

 

2. Order of timing/ results from the three 1/3rds of a dasa (in BOTH Vim &

Narayan, I presume). The orders are:

a) Pg 233: i) Rasi, ii) Planets affecting Rasi, iii) its Lord (& planets

affecting Ld). Qualifications: 1) among planets affecting same 1/3, NBs

affect before NMs, 2) If dasa-rasi is prishto/ shirso/ ubhaya dayas, its

effect is in last/ 1st/ midl rspcvly. BUT in the example on the same page,

order is ii), iii), i), based on Aq being a mlfc syn (tho, being

shirsodaya, it shd be 1st)

Pg 157: (direction of travel from Narayan Dasa): i), iii), ii, both in the

rule & example there.

 

GENERALLY, THE DASAS TEND TO GIVE THE MALEFIC RESULTS TOWARDS THE END. THIS

IS AN IMPORTANT PRINCIPLE. LIST OUT THE RESULTS YOU EXPECT FROM (A) SIGN

(B) LORD AND © ASPECTS. PREDICT THE GOOD ONES FIRST AND THEN THE BAD

ONES. THIS IS SIMPLER TO DO: I will read your new book (Narayan Dasa) when

it arrives, & then may ask you about this again if I am still not clear

(Any particular pages where it appears there?).

 

3. The natural maturation ages of planets I have in my astro-notes in

weekday order are: 22, 24, 28, 32, 16 (for Jp), 25, 36, & 48 for the nodes.

The years ruled by Jp in your 9th house chapter of CoVA is primary= 33, 34,

secondary= 24, 56. But in many examples in CoVA, Jp's results are said to

be fulfilled at age 30. Which does not match EITHER set of age categories,

which is why my confusion. Are my notes on natural maturation ages wrong

for all planets, or only Jp?:

 

PRINTERS DEVIL. JP IS 30 & MC IS 34.

 

4. The planetary aspect of the 7th:

a) CoVA Chapter on the Lagna: Sn in/ aspecting/ argalaing 1= good moral

character/ happy disposition etc (obviously unless afflicted, when= bad for

Sn-related diseases, pride, etc). This is apparently based on the concept

that the Sn is in/ aspecting its own natural karaka house (Lagna).

b) But in pgs 254- 257 for the 7th house: virtually all Natural Benefics

(NBs) in 7 are interpreted as being good for the spouse/ marriage but BAD

for the self, as they are in 7 to Lg. Also, the Sn in 7 (as it aspects 1)=

BAD character (opposite to Sn being IN Lg, ref the above, which was

supposed to be good character). So there is a contradiction between the 2

chapters which I could not resolve in my mind, & I tried to rationalise

that the 7th aspect is a developmental square (ie Vishnu= kendra vs ease=

Lakshmi= kon) but am not happy about that interpretation either, for the

difference.

 

HERE THE ASPECT IS RASI DRISHTI. SUN IN SEVENTH IS NOT GOOD. THIS

IS A KSHETRA OF VENUS WHO IS THE CAUSE OF ITS DEBILITY JUST LIKE A KING

FALLS BECAUSE OF HIS VICES AND WOMEN (BOTH SEXES MEANT HERE!!). ANY PLANET

HERE IS NOT GOOD. SEE THE RESULTS GIVEN BY PARASARA UNDER VIMSOTTARI DASA

FOR PLANETS IN 7TH..INVARIABLY MRITUNJAYA.

 

5. Similar query as previous one. Ref pg 428 CoVA: St occupying/ conjoining

a house/ lord= decreases the longevity of the relevant signification of the

house/ lord. BUT if St graha-aspects them (I suppose this holds true also

for rasi-drishtis), it INCREASES their longevity, as St is the natural

significator for longevity. This opposite result between occupying &

aspecting a house, is unclear.

 

6. Being in N houses away: DaraPada in 3/11 from AL= physical compatibility

with partner, but bad for business prospects (why the difference?) ref pg

253 CoVA. Or: Ra/ Ke in 11= RajYoga & sudden gains in wealth respectively,

but Ke in 11 also= bad friends. Why does Ke in 11 give good wealth (4/ 10

to/ from 2, 3/ 11 from/ to 9) but bad friends?

 

7. Natural friends/ enemies of planets X influencing houses represented by

X by natural signification:

a) Ref pg 235: bad effect of Mc on Mn as Mn is v friendly to Mc, while Mc

hates Mn.

b) Ref Pg: 167: Ve is natural enemy of Mn, so in 5, as is 2 from 4, is

malefic to mother (4).

But I thought that Mn has no enemies while the enemy of both Mc & Ve is Mn.

OTOH, in the chapter on children, Jp's enemies are Mc/ Ve, so they hassle

fertility, which matches with the standard natural friendship tables that I

have from traditional texts.

c) Ma conjoin Lord of 2 in 11 (also then, aspects 2)= wealth, BUT speak

late in childhood (as Mc= karaka of 2 for speech, & is natural enemy of

Ma), normally till end of 1st Narayan Dasa.

d) Mc in 11= many friends, early gains, good marital relations, BUT

disinterest in sex, as Ve (natural karaka of 7) is deb in Mc's sign, so Mc

negates influence of Ve (NC: but Mc & Ve are supposed to be mutual

friends?)

 

8. d-6: from JUPS:

 

i) In d-6/11, ie Paryaya dasa, etc, Sign owned by Sthirkaraka doesn't kill

that corresponding relative (shlok 3.3.122). Now, as per the Shool Dasa

rules, sign occupied by sthir karaka DOES kill, while that occupied by

chara karaka averts death. I know, one says owned, the other says occupied,

but is this all correct?

 

ii) Please ref JUPS 3.3.11 in particular, & a few shloks just prior to it:

Comparing strength of signs to kill, in d-6 & d-11: In order of priority:

a) Associated (mainly conjoined) with benefics= weaker, while with malefics

= stronger. b) nature of sign: C>S>D.

c) Aspect of benefics reduces strength.

BUT for choosing maraka-signs within trines (eg which among Trishul signs),

order of priority is c, then b - But unclear whether it is c, b, a (as

Notes a few shloks prior, say Reverse) or a, then c, b, given shlok

3.3.117.2.

 

9. In chapter on 2nd house: planets/ house in 4 (probably as argala) from

lord of 2 (probably as maraka) are weakened, eg L2 in 3= enemy (6)

destroyed. Why? L2 will also argala other planets/ houses in 2/4/11/5/8

from it. Why only the 4th arg specifically: again, 4 is a Vishnu

development aspect by Wn astro, but is that what is being considered here?

 

10. Mandook Dasa initiation in d-11:

a) JUPS : Lg or its Adars, whichever is odd.

b) CoVA: 11th house, whether odd or even.

 

11. Strength of signs for calculating Arudhs & AK's effect on that: Ref pg

476 CoVA: between Ke & Ma, Ma had Sn conjoined to it, Ke had none. But as

Ra was AK (so, strongest planet in chart), its counterpart Ke was chosen

over Ma to calculate A10. Well, this does go in the face of VAIP rules, as

the AK rule in JUPS was supposed to be meant mainly for AK related matters

(longevity dasas, health, AK related dasas, etc).

 

12. In Bramha Dasa Sequence, the Initiation rule is: start from sign

containing Bramha & proceed regular & in zodiacal order. If Bramha is in an

even sign (whcih is very exceptional, ie only if ALL competing planets for

Bramha are in even syns), it starts from 7 from Bramha. NOW, for AFTER

thatfor Bramha being in the exceptional even sign:

 

JUPS says: then progress in anti-zodiacal. Versus: Mr N Rao says: in either

case (ie Bramha being in odd or even sign), proceed in regular zodiacal

order.

 

13. In Ayur Dasas: Progression is supposed to be zodiacal vs anti-zodiacal

if X is odd/ even. Now in some cases, X is refered to as being the Lg, &

sometimes the Dasa Initiator. Now where the choice is 1 vs 7, as the oddity

is the same it does not matter. But where it is 2/ 8 from Lg vs its 7 in

Nirayan Shool, & other such cases eg where in Paryay the Initiator could

be kendras to the Lg, etc, where the oddity of the Initiator is different

from the Lg, what is the rule for Progression, ie based on the oddity of

the Lg or that of the Initiator?

 

Regards and Gratitude

 

Nandan