Guest guest Posted August 18, 2001 Report Share Posted August 18, 2001 Dear Jyothisa, namaste. I have a few doubts about the calculation of Drig dasa for the attached chart. Can anyone help me out? At first, I looked through Vistis Excel spreadsheets to find one that calculates Drig dasa but I think there is none.Have I overlooked it? Doing the calculation for the attached chart manually, I came up with the following order of Drig dasas: Leo Lib Cap Ari Vir Sag Pis Gem Lib Aqu Tau Leo I am confused whether this is correct for two reasons: 1) Lib and Leo rashis come twice while Can and Sco dont show up at all. Can this be correct? 2) I applied both Ketu and Saturn exception to reckoning of rashis. Ketu is in house nine (Leo) from which dasa order starts. Leo is even-footed, so order would be Leo, Aries, Capricorn, Libra but Ketu reverses it. Next dasa is the one of rashi in house ten,Virgo. This contains Saturn so I made the order go zodiacal instead of anti-zodiacal. Is this correct? regards, Arno Date of Birth: December 20, 1951 Time of Birth: 10:00:00 am Time Zone of Birth: 1:00 East of GMT Longitude of Birth: 2 E 28 Latitude of Birth: 49 N 12 Lunar month (maasa): Margasira Planet Position Pada CharaK Ascdt 22 Sg 21 Poo.Shaa. 3 - Sun 4 Sg 28 Moola 2 DK Moon 20 Le 26 Poo.Pha. 3 PiK Mars 21 Vi 21 Hastha 4 AmK Mercury ® 26 Sc 55 Jyeshtha 4 AK Jupiter 11 Pi 44 U.Bhaa. 3 GK Venus 21 Li 00 Visakha 1 BK Saturn 20 Vi 41 Hastha 4 MK Rahu 10 Aq 53 Satabhisham 2 PK Ketu 10 Le 53 Makha 4 - BhavaLg 23 Sg 23 Poo.Shaa. 4 - HoraLg 12 Cp 20 Sravanam 1 - GhatiLg 9 Pi 13 U.Bhaa. 2 - +----------------------+ | | | | | | GL | | | | | | | | | | Jup | | | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | | | Rah | | | | | | | | | | | |-------------| R A S I |-------------| | | | | | | | Ket | | HL | | | | | | Moo | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | Glk Sun | | | | | | | | Sat | | Mnd | MerR | Ven | | | | | | Mar | | Asc BL | | | | +----------------------+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2001 Report Share Posted August 18, 2001 Dear Arno, The idea of Drig dasa is that it starts with 9th house and signs aspected by it. If we take three consecutive signs with movable and fixed signs in the three signs being adjacent, then the three signs and the signs aspected by them together will cover the entire zodiac. That's the idea in Drig dasa. If we have lagna in a movable or fixed sign, things work perfectly. But, if lagna is in a dual sign, 9th house happens to be a fixed sign and the 11th house is a movable sign that is NOT adjacent to the fixed sign (9th house). The 11th house and the 9th house aspect each other then. So clearly, some signs will be repeated and some signs will be missing. Clearly, that's not the way! The idea is to start from the 9th house and cover the entire zodiac based on aspected signs. Maharshis use words sparingly and are often very succint and leave special cases to the judgment of a discriminating student. We basically want three consecutive signs - one movable sign, one fixed sign and one dual sign. The movable and fixed signs should be adjacent. How to find them, starting from the 9th house? Think - there is only one way. Drig dasa sheds light on spiritual and religious activities. Based on the calculation as taught to me by Sanjay, this gentleman runs Aquarius drig dasa during Dec 1996-Dec 2001. As you wrote in a previous mail, A5 does show students. The 5th house shows following. Its arudha show how following rises materially, i.e. one's students and followers. Rahu in A5 can show malicious students. Being in the 12th from AL (status and name), Rahu can spoil the name of the gentleman in spiritual circles. Being in A5, it can be through students. Next drig dasa of Scorpio (12th house containing AK) will start at the end of this year and it may bring detachment (12th) from all this nuisance and help him rediscover the goal of his soul (AK). You asked for remedial measures. Remedial measures work the best when they are designed to attack the ROOT CAUSE (moola) of problems, which is past karma. If one has trouble with students, there is a 80-90% chance that he did the same to his gurus in this or past life or broke his dharma in some way. Moola dasa shows it. Let us assume that the data is accurate. The 9th house shows dharma followed by one in past life. Venus and Mercury occupy it. They are in Utapaata and Bhrashta amsas respectively (roughly meaning - big fall and fallen/perverted). They show some adharma committed by the native in past life and possibly some unfair/fallen acts done to teacher/religion (9th). So Venus and Mercury, who stand for this adharma of past life, will punish for it in their Moola dasas in this life. Venus dasa is running now and antardasas are given below. Moola Dasa (dasa showing the root of events - past karma): Ven MD: 1981-12-20 (02:33:58) - 2001-12-20 (05:38:55) Antardasas in this MD: Ven: 1981-12-20 (02:33:58) - 1984-03-08 (12:58:32) Mar: 1984-03-08 (12:58:32) - 1986-05-29 (20:59:28) Sat: 1986-05-29 (20:59:28) - 1988-08-21 (01:29:39) Sun: 1988-08-21 (01:29:39) - 1990-11-10 (22:07:30) Jup: 1990-11-10 (22:07:30) - 1993-01-28 (04:50:57) Moo: 1993-01-28 (04:50:57) - 1995-04-18 (19:53:33) Ket: 1995-04-18 (19:53:33) - 1997-07-10 (13:51:47) Rah: 1997-07-10 (13:51:47) - 1999-10-02 (00:19:01) Mer: 1999-10-02 (00:19:01) - 2001-12-20 (05:38:55) So the main period of problems is Oct 1999-Dec 2001. The remedy is an intense worship of Lakshmi and Narayana. Reading Narayana Hridayam and Lakshmi Hridayam (in that order) everyday (or every Wednesday and Friday) during the coming Aswayuja maasa may set him free from the past life adharmas. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha --------------------- Narasimha P.V.R. Rao email: pvr108 26 Seaver Farm Lane Tel: (508) 839-1218 South Grafton, MA 01560 email: pvr **** Note the address change **** Homepage: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org --------------------- > Dear Jyothisa, namaste. > > I have a few doubts about the calculation of Drig dasa for the attached > chart. Can anyone help me out? At first, I looked through Vistis Excel > spreadsheets to find one that calculates Drig dasa but I think there is > > none.Have I overlooked it? > > Doing the calculation for the attached chart manually, I came up with > the following order of Drig dasas: > > Leo > Lib > Cap > Ari > Vir > Sag > Pis > Gem > Lib > Aqu > Tau > Leo > > I am confused whether this is correct for two reasons: > > 1) Lib and Leo rashis come twice while Can and Sco dont show up at all. > Can this be correct? > > 2) I applied both Ketu and Saturn exception to reckoning of rashis. > > Ketu is in house nine (Leo) from which dasa order starts. Leo is > even-footed, so order would be Leo, Aries, Capricorn, Libra but Ketu > reverses it. Next dasa is the one of rashi in house ten,Virgo. This > contains Saturn so I made the order go zodiacal instead of > anti-zodiacal. Is this correct? > > regards, Arno > > Date of Birth: December 20, 1951 > Time of Birth: 10:00:00 am > Time Zone of Birth: 1:00 East of GMT > Longitude of Birth: 2 E 28 > Latitude of Birth: 49 N 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2001 Report Share Posted August 18, 2001 Namaste, I did not make it clear below, but I was talking about D-60. > Let us assume that the data is accurate. The 9th house shows dharma followed > by one in past life. Venus and Mercury occupy it. They are in Utapaata and > Bhrashta amsas respectively (roughly meaning - big fall and > fallen/perverted). They show some adharma committed by the native in past > life and possibly some unfair/fallen acts done to teacher/religion (9th). So > Venus and Mercury, who stand for this adharma of past life, will punish for > it in their Moola dasas in this life. Venus dasa is running now and > antardasas are given below. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha --------------------- Narasimha P.V.R. Rao email: pvr108 26 Seaver Farm Lane Tel: (508) 839-1218 South Grafton, MA 01560 email: pvr **** Note the address change **** Homepage: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org --------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2001 Report Share Posted August 19, 2001 Dear Narasimha, many thanks for answering my query. I really appreciate it. If I understand your hints about this chart properly, then Drig dasa starts from the 9th house here and continues with the 8th (instead of 10) and then finally with the dual sign in the seventh. It seems that you ignored ketu in the starting rashi of Leo in 9 and made the dasa order go as follows: Leo 8 Ari 5 Cap 4 Lib 12 Can 11 Tau 5 Aqu 5 Sco 2 Gem 5 Vir 10 Sag 3 Pis 12 This would put Aquarious from 96 to 2001 as given by you. Hope I am on the right track. I have to ponder more about your other points about Moola dasa and shastiamsa and may bother you with one or two more questions. And thanks for giving remedial measures for this chart. Where can I find Narayana hridayam and Laxmi hridayam? I tried to find these mantras in Sanjayas book on remedial measures but was unable to locate them. Best wishes, Arno "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" schrieb: > Dear Arno, > > The idea of Drig dasa is that it starts with 9th house and signs aspected by > it. If we take three consecutive signs with movable and fixed signs in the > three signs being adjacent, then the three signs and the signs aspected by > them together will cover the entire zodiac. That's the idea in Drig dasa. If > we have lagna in a movable or fixed sign, things work perfectly. But, if > lagna is in a dual sign, 9th house happens to be a fixed sign and the 11th > house is a movable sign that is NOT adjacent to the fixed sign (9th house). > The 11th house and the 9th house aspect each other then. So clearly, some > signs will be repeated and some signs will be missing. Clearly, that's not > the way! The idea is to start from the 9th house and cover the entire zodiac > based on aspected signs. > > Maharshis use words sparingly and are often very succint and leave special > cases to the judgment of a discriminating student. We basically want three > consecutive signs - one movable sign, one fixed sign and one dual sign. The > movable and fixed signs should be adjacent. How to find them, starting from > the 9th house? Think - there is only one way. > > Drig dasa sheds light on spiritual and religious activities. Based on the > calculation as taught to me by Sanjay, this gentleman runs Aquarius drig > dasa during Dec 1996-Dec 2001. As you wrote in a previous mail, A5 does show > students. The 5th house shows following. Its arudha show how following rises > materially, i.e. one's students and followers. Rahu in A5 can show malicious > students. Being in the 12th from AL (status and name), Rahu can spoil the > name of the gentleman in spiritual circles. Being in A5, it can be through > students. > > Next drig dasa of Scorpio (12th house containing AK) will start at the end > of this year and it may bring detachment (12th) from all this nuisance and > help him rediscover the goal of his soul (AK). > > You asked for remedial measures. Remedial measures work the best when they > are designed to attack the ROOT CAUSE (moola) of problems, which is past > karma. If one has trouble with students, there is a 80-90% chance that he > did the same to his gurus in this or past life or broke his dharma in some > way. Moola dasa shows it. > > Let us assume that the data is accurate. The 9th house shows dharma followed > by one in past life. Venus and Mercury occupy it. They are in Utapaata and > Bhrashta amsas respectively (roughly meaning - big fall and > fallen/perverted). They show some adharma committed by the native in past > life and possibly some unfair/fallen acts done to teacher/religion (9th). So > Venus and Mercury, who stand for this adharma of past life, will punish for > it in their Moola dasas in this life. Venus dasa is running now and > antardasas are given below. > > Moola Dasa (dasa showing the root of events - past karma): > > Ven MD: 1981-12-20 (02:33:58) - 2001-12-20 (05:38:55) > > Antardasas in this MD: > > Ven: 1981-12-20 (02:33:58) - 1984-03-08 (12:58:32) > Mar: 1984-03-08 (12:58:32) - 1986-05-29 (20:59:28) > Sat: 1986-05-29 (20:59:28) - 1988-08-21 (01:29:39) > Sun: 1988-08-21 (01:29:39) - 1990-11-10 (22:07:30) > Jup: 1990-11-10 (22:07:30) - 1993-01-28 (04:50:57) > Moo: 1993-01-28 (04:50:57) - 1995-04-18 (19:53:33) > Ket: 1995-04-18 (19:53:33) - 1997-07-10 (13:51:47) > Rah: 1997-07-10 (13:51:47) - 1999-10-02 (00:19:01) > Mer: 1999-10-02 (00:19:01) - 2001-12-20 (05:38:55) > > So the main period of problems is Oct 1999-Dec 2001. The remedy is an > intense worship of Lakshmi and Narayana. Reading Narayana Hridayam and > Lakshmi Hridayam (in that order) everyday (or every Wednesday and Friday) > during the coming Aswayuja maasa may set him free from the past life > adharmas. > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > Narasimha > > --------------------- > Narasimha P.V.R. Rao email: pvr108 > 26 Seaver Farm Lane Tel: (508) 839-1218 > South Grafton, MA 01560 email: pvr > > **** Note the address change **** > > Homepage: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > --------------------- > > > Dear Jyothisa, namaste. > > > > I have a few doubts about the calculation of Drig dasa for the attached > > chart. Can anyone help me out? At first, I looked through Vistis Excel > > spreadsheets to find one that calculates Drig dasa but I think there is > > > > none.Have I overlooked it? > > > > Doing the calculation for the attached chart manually, I came up with > > the following order of Drig dasas: > > > > Leo > > Lib > > Cap > > Ari > > Vir > > Sag > > Pis > > Gem > > Lib > > Aqu > > Tau > > Leo > > > > I am confused whether this is correct for two reasons: > > > > 1) Lib and Leo rashis come twice while Can and Sco dont show up at all. > > Can this be correct? > > > > 2) I applied both Ketu and Saturn exception to reckoning of rashis. > > > > Ketu is in house nine (Leo) from which dasa order starts. Leo is > > even-footed, so order would be Leo, Aries, Capricorn, Libra but Ketu > > reverses it. Next dasa is the one of rashi in house ten,Virgo. This > > contains Saturn so I made the order go zodiacal instead of > > anti-zodiacal. Is this correct? > > > > regards, Arno > > > > Date of Birth: December 20, 1951 > > Time of Birth: 10:00:00 am > > Time Zone of Birth: 1:00 East of GMT > > Longitude of Birth: 2 E 28 > > Latitude of Birth: 49 N 12 > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2001 Report Share Posted August 19, 2001 Dear Arno, > in the seventh. It seems that you ignored ketu in the starting rashi of Leo in 9 > and made the dasa order go as follows: > > This would put Aquarious from 96 to 2001 as given by you. Hope I am on the right > track. You are. The only thing is that you thought I ignored Ketu exception, but I didn't. Ketu exception works everywhere, but slightly differently in Drig dasa. In Narayana dasa, you find whether the 9th house is odd-footed or even-footed and find dasas based on it. You just have one sequence. So Ketu/Saturn exceptions alter the whole sequence. In Drig dasa, however, you have 3 sub-sequences. Based on whether the 9th house is odd-footed or even-footed, you get one sub-sequence (of 9th house and rasis aspected by it). Based on whether the 10th house is odd-footed or even-footed, you get one sub-sequence (of 10th house and rasis aspected by it). Based on whether the 11th house is odd-footed or even-footed, you get one sub-sequence (of 11th house and rasis aspected by it). Saturn/Ketu exception applies to each sub-sequence separately! Suppose someone has Libra lagna. Then the first sub-sequence is based on Ge and normally it is 9th house Ge, Vi, Sg and Pi (zodiacal, because Ge is odd-footed). The second sub-sequence is based on 10th house Cn and normally it is Cn, Ta, Aq and Sc (anti-zodiacal, because Cn is even-footed). The third sub-sequence is based on 11th house Le and normally it is Le, Ar, Cp and Li (anti-zodiacal, because Le is even-footed). If Ge has Ketu, only the first sub-sequence is reversed and dasa sequence becomes Ge, Pi, Sg, Vi; Cn, Ta, Aq, Sc; Le, Ar, Cp, Li. If Cn has Ketu, only the second sub-sequence is reversed and dasa sequence becomes Ge, Vi, Sg, Pi; Cn, Sc, Aq, Ta; Le, Ar, Cp, Li. If Le has Ketu, only the third sub-sequence is reversed and dasa sequence becomes Ge, Vi, Sg, Pi; Cn, Ta, Aq, Sc; Le, Li, Cp, Ar. I hope it's clear now. The same idea applies to Saturn exception. The basic thing is that Drigdasa has 3 sub-sequences and each of them has its own direction based on the starting sign (9th/10th/11th house). > I have to ponder more about your other points about Moola dasa and shastiamsa > and may bother you with one or two more questions. Moola means root. Moola dasa shows the root of events in one's life. Remedies should address the root cause of suffering and not just offer temporary relief from symptoms. However, understanding the root cause means understanding D-60 and that requires fine rectification. Try to check the birthtime based on the events you just supplied and see if D-60 lagna changes based on it. > And thanks for giving remedial measures for this chart. Where can I find > Narayana hridayam and Laxmi hridayam? I tried to find these mantras in Sanjayas > book on remedial measures but was unable to locate them. It's from Atharva Rahasya. Good bookstores selling religious worship materials in India carry small booklets containing the two hridayams. If one's living outside India, the best bet may be to contact a local temple priest. > Best wishes, Arno May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha PS: My home address and home email address have changed. My old email address pvr will soon be invalid. Those of you who have me in the address book should change. --------------------- Narasimha P.V.R. Rao email: pvr108 26 Seaver Farm Lane Tel: (508) 839-1218 South Grafton, MA 01560 email: pvr **** Note the address change **** Homepage: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org --------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2001 Report Share Posted August 20, 2001 Dear Narasimha, thanks for spelling out the rules. Everything is clear now. regards, Arno "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" schrieb: > Dear Arno, > > Ketu exception works everywhere, but slightly differently in Drig dasa. In > Narayana dasa, you find whether the 9th house is odd-footed or even-footed > and find dasas based on it. You just have one sequence. So Ketu/Saturn > exceptions alter the whole sequence. In Drig dasa, however, you have 3 > sub-sequences. Based on whether the 9th house is odd-footed or even-footed, > you get one sub-sequence (of 9th house and rasis aspected by it). Based on > whether the 10th house is odd-footed or even-footed, you get one > sub-sequence (of 10th house and rasis aspected by it). Based on whether the > 11th house is odd-footed or even-footed, you get one sub-sequence (of 11th > house and rasis aspected by it). Saturn/Ketu exception applies to each > sub-sequence separately! > > Suppose someone has Libra lagna. Then the first sub-sequence is based on Ge > and normally it is 9th house Ge, Vi, Sg and Pi (zodiacal, because Ge is > odd-footed). The second sub-sequence is based on 10th house Cn and normally > it is Cn, Ta, Aq and Sc (anti-zodiacal, because Cn is even-footed). The > third sub-sequence is based on 11th house Le and normally it is Le, Ar, Cp > and Li (anti-zodiacal, because Le is even-footed). > > If Ge has Ketu, only the first sub-sequence is reversed and dasa sequence > becomes Ge, Pi, Sg, Vi; Cn, Ta, Aq, Sc; Le, Ar, Cp, Li. > If Cn has Ketu, only the second sub-sequence is reversed and dasa sequence > becomes Ge, Vi, Sg, Pi; Cn, Sc, Aq, Ta; Le, Ar, Cp, Li. > If Le has Ketu, only the third sub-sequence is reversed and dasa sequence > becomes Ge, Vi, Sg, Pi; Cn, Ta, Aq, Sc; Le, Li, Cp, Ar. > > I hope it's clear now. The same idea applies to Saturn exception. The basic > thing is that Drigdasa has 3 sub-sequences and each of them has its own > direction based on the starting sign (9th/10th/11th house). > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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