Guest guest Posted July 21, 2001 Report Share Posted July 21, 2001 Dear Alex, > > LAGNA > > Navamsa lagna is as strong as Rasi ascendant in determination of personality > as well as appearance. With two feminine planets in the sign of the virgin > (Like a virgin!), she would be far more feminine, humble and well mannered > than she is, especially when the Moon and Mercury in Leo lagna in D-1 is > factored. Similar reservations exist for Cancer lagna. Needn't so...Budh and Chandra in lagna in rashi, also give beauty and feminine traits. She is feminine, it all depends on the way people perceive her..Sun would aslo aspect navamsa lagna virgo, giving firmness anda strenght, majestic appearance, leo lagna and chandra would confirm the same from rashi, > > The male navamsa ascendant and aspect of 4 malefics across it has given her > the vulgar personality that she exhibits. She shows none of the reservation > of a Virgo or Cancer and has publicized herself in pornographic books, even > after she has become famous! Ascendant lord goes into the 8th, aspected by > debilitated Venus and Moon from the 2nd giving her lifelong fascination and > involvement with the "underground" life of discotheques, parties, sex and > intoxication. What she exibits is a matter of arudha lagna, not lagna, Aruda lagna is gemini(dancing places, places of vice, frequented by prostitutes), and its lord is mercury yuti moon in leo 3rd from it, so she exibits strenghth, emotions(moon) and play(mercury), while they being together (freedom in sex). This still can be explained from rashi chart. On the contrary, In leo navamsa, lagnesh sun would give huge inheritance from father or father in law, and expose her to dangerous illness in youth and very poor health throughout the life. Is that so? > > Furthur if Venus is in the lagnamsa, the 9th lord and 2nd lord become > debilitated, making an inherent weakness in her house of fame/power and > wealth. This is made worse, as Venus in debilitation navamsa causes > rajayogabhanga. 5th lord goes into the 6th, rendering the trines weak to > bring fame and power. In case of leo navamsa, raja bhanga would occur in 2nd house of wealth? If navamsa virgo, 2nd lord venus placed in lagna in debilitation is Shrimanath Yog for great wealth. There would be parivarthan of moon and mercury in navamsa in case of virgo navamsa. Sun as atma would aspect navamsa lagna, and cause great raja yoga. Neecha venus is very bad for love/marriage, but not necesseraly for wealth.. Jaimini says that ucha and necha grahas may give enormous wealth. When you mention shani as being in 6th weak, it is his best place. We would also have, lord of 6th house in rashi, placed in 6th in navamsa which is very good. > > MARRIAGE > Moon and Venus placed in the 12th from UL in navamsa don't favour marriage. > In fact Venus as the debilitated UL lord placed in the 12th therefrom should > deny marriage. Correct, but not always the rule. Both grahas would be placed in navamsa lagna which is good for marriage.The combination on upapad could speak about the partner who would be the spend thrift, or full of vice or from abroad. So this rule of uapapda for virgo navamsa is off. > > Divorce during Mars/Juptier is not shown either, as Jupiter conjucntion with > 2nd lord from UL and 8th lord from lagna would protect marriage. Divorce > should have been in Rahu if ever. Why? Both grahas would be in 2nd from navamsa lagna, which are very bad placed for the first marriage. This clearly shows, more than one marriage. 2nd lord from Ul with rahu cannot protect marriage, it destroys marriage. Jupiter cannot protect, being caught with rahu influence, and bahoo stree yoga. It even intensifies immorality if cought in Bahu stree yoga. Only Ketu is the saviour. However, ketu doesnot send rashi dristi. > > Saturn as the 6th lord, or 8th lord strong in own house does not favour > remarriage in the navamsa of Virgo or Cancer. Remarriage is seen in 2nd house, not from saturn. Saturn is qualifed ever to bring a spouse ruling 7th from venus and 7th from lagna. Further in case of virgo navamsa, saturn has unobstructed argala over 2nd house of second marriage > > 2ND HOUSE > > Mars, Rahu and Jupiter here are badly placed. Mars should have given an > illness during his dasa, as he owns the 3rd and 8th house, and is placed > with the 6th and 7th lords in the 2nd maraka place. > Mars is qualified to give illness due to its ruling 6th from aruda lagna and holding saturn 8th ruler from AL. Illness may go to spouse, due to mars placement in 8th from 7th and rulership of 8th in navamsa. mars and rahu conjunction would confirm Vepreta raja yoga around 2nd marriage rather than bring her some incurable illness. Illness would come in case of leo navamsa, with atmakarak in dustana. Do note that rashi is the primary chart for health, navamsa more relates to marriage, even though I agree that it may infleunce health as well. > > This combination would have resulted in a curse of Brahmins, due to the > guru-chandala yoga, the combination of the 8th lord, and the debilitation of > the 9th lord, which should have destroyed health and wealth. Instead she > became a multi millionaire and world famous in Mars dasa. > Mars is very well placed in rashi chart, and from arudha lagna. It is involved in Favourable guru mangala yoga in d-10. In leo navamsa, mars in 3rd house needn't be that powerfull either. For curse of Brahmins, guru needs to be in trines, or related to trines, in neecha or under rahu ifluence. > > In the 3rd this combination is not malefic for Leo ascendant. I agree with this.. > > LEO NAVAMSA > > LAGNA > > This chart is stronger. The lagna is vargottama and surrounded by benefics. > The 5th lord and Ketu in the 9th are vargottama, as is Rahu well placed in > the 3rd. Mars the 9th lord is favourably placed in the 3rd house of courage > with these planets, giving her the aggressive personality that has made her > famous. These three form a very potent rajayoga in the house of talent, > along the fame/power axis with Ketu as well. The next rajayoga is with > Saturn, the karaka of mass popularity and the planet of sex in this chart, > which has made her the international sex symbol of a very base kind, denoted > by Tamasic Saturn. Saturn in own sign, would give success very late in life, hardhsips, and continual troubles. Even in kumba saturn is not so well placed for such wealth, when found in 7th. > > ABILITIES > > There is the aspect of Moon, Sun and Venus on the 5th house, which gives > abilities in singing, music, rythm, and performance. These are the only > planets aspecting the 5th house of abilities. > > The 10th lord is Venus conjoined Moon in the house of voice, giving the > singing career. These points are well explaind and fit. > > SEX > > This chart describes her sexual nature better as well. Both debilitated > Venus and Moon in the second excite her sexual urge. Her 7th lord becomes > stronger than her ascendant giving the overpowering sex drive. There is the > aspect of 5 planets, giving sex from all directions and people. Two eunuch > planets sit in the 7th and 12th houses of sex, which gives her bi-sexual > nature. No on the contrary, Navamsa virgo best explains loose morals with bahoo stree yoga. mars would be in second in venusian sign, with guru and rahu.. Bisexual nature comes from saturn ruling 7th, paritucularly important in female chart, while mercury connected to lagna is to confirm that. Do note that bahoo stree yoga involves 7th house in dustana. In rashi chart this is also confiremd, A7 is in gemini identical with AL, so she is perceived as sex simbol. gemini indicates bisexual tendencies and free sexual attitudes, loose morals etc. > MARRIAGE > > The upapada in navamsa reflects her 1st husband well, as it is in Scorpio > aspected by Mercury from the 9th. The lagna of Sean Penn is Scorpio, > aspected by Mercury from the 9th. In virgo navamsa, mars would be in UL, and ketu in 7th, so scorpio lagna of husband fits. This argument of yours, cannot thus discard virgo navamsa > > Marriage occurred in Moon-Venus, both of whom have yoga with the navamsa > ascendant lord. Further Venus disposits Navamsa UL lord Mars. Narayana dasa > was Sag-Gem: Sag is the 2nd house from UL, lord beneficially conjoins UL > lord, and aspects 7th lord and house. The lord of Gem aspects UL and the 7th > house and lord. > Now look, virgo navamsa: Moon mahadasha, moon in lagna. Venus antardasha, venus aspects by both rashi/graha dristi 7th house in navamsa. Moon is with upapada lord and venus rules upapada. Navamsa narayana dasha was sagitarius/sagitarius not gemini.. Guru, lord is placed in UL > Divorce occurred in Mars-Jupiter. One is the afflicted 2nd lord from UL, 8th > lord from lagna, the other is the afflicting planet Mars and the lord of UL > placed in a duhstana, and 12th from UL. Navamsa narayana dasa is of > Capricorn which is the 6th house from Navamsa lagna, while its lord > malefically aspects UL. Mars mahadasha and jupiter anatara better show divorce for Virgo navamsa. > > Remarriage occurred in Rahu-Saturn, who both own the 7th house, with Saturn > being placed there. Navamsa narayana dasa is of Aquarius-Aquarius. Aquarius > is the 7th house. Rahu saturn could be explained from Rashi chart as well, so this argument is not so strong. In navamsa rahu is also in 2nd house of 2nd marriage, while saturn is in trines from UL, having argala and rashi dristi on UL. Aquaris dasha is ruled by rahu in 2nd house and UL, while saturn aslo infleunces UL and 2nd house. Here argument for leo navamsa is also strong. This discussion was very enjoyable, thanks Zoran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2001 Report Share Posted July 23, 2001 Namaste Zoran, > There would be parivarthan of moon and mercury in navamsa in case of > virgo navamsa. Sun as atma would aspect navamsa lagna, and cause > great raja yoga. True, and parivarthan would be between the 11th and 1st house. Mercury comes into contact with Venus this way, and they are the 9th and 10th lords. Moon cycle would also be financially beneficial this way, which is not shown in Leo swamsa. > When you mention shani as being in 6th weak, it is his best place. Sani is not weak for rajayoga, as Sani is well placed in 6th, and for Virgo is 5th lord in moolatrikona. What I meant was that the 6th lord and planets in the duhstanas in the Navamsa chart are normally not good for marriage. > Both grahas would be placed in navamsa lagna which is good for > marriage.The combination on upapad could speak about the partner who > would be the spend thrift, or full of vice or from abroad. So this > rule of uapapda for virgo navamsa is off. Yes I agree. In swamsa ascendant they are definitely conducive to marriage. And the first husband, Sean Penn, was full of vice. > 2nd lord from Ul with rahu cannot protect marriage, it destroys > marriage. Jupiter cannot protect, being caught with rahu influence, > and bahoo stree yoga. It even intensifies immorality if cought in > Bahu stree yoga. Yes, excellent point about Jupiter's intensifying effect. Madonna is definitely excessive even for the average bahoo stree yoga. > Remarriage is seen in 2nd house, not from saturn (as 7th lord). question about this: in the case of childbirth the 5th, 7th, 9th, etc are taken as indicating qualities of the subsequent children, but the planets influencing the 5th time the childbirth. In the case of spouses do we time from the 7th, 2nd, 9th and ignore the 7th house for timing after the first loss/divorce? > Illness would come in case of leo navamsa, with atmakarak in dustana. Does atmakarak always give illness in a navamsa duhstana? Madonna also ran Sun dasa when younger, but as far as I know has remained healthy. She even puts her body through much abuse from drugs and sex. > Do note that rashi is the primary chart for health, navamsa more > relates to marriage, even though I agree that it may infleunce > health as well. I think it must as well, both Parasar and Jaimini mention it. > For curse of Brahmins, guru needs to be in trines, or related to > trines, in neecha or under rahu ifluence. Guru doesn't always need to be in trines. In this combination there can be other factors as well such as a debilitated 9th lord, or Rahu in the 9th, Sag, or Pisces. > Even in kumba saturn is not so well placed for such wealth, > when found in 7th. Why is there no wealth with Saturn in the 7th? Doesn't Saturn here get digbala and Sasa results? I agree with the late results for yoga however in the 7th. Her first husband also does not seem to fit with Saturn in Kumbha either. He is much more closer to Sun in Pisces 7th aspected by Moon and Venus. Sean Penn is both an internationally famous actor and movie director/producer. His ascendant is in a trine to Pisces (Scorpio), and he has Sun and Venus in Arudha lagna, while they give dristi to one lagna lord, and argala to another. > In rashi chart this is also confiremd, A7 is in gemini identical > with AL, so she is perceived as sex simbol. gemini indicates > bisexual tendencies and free sexual attitudes, loose morals etc. I've seen the AL/A7 combination in several charts of sex symbols as well. > In navamsa rahu is also in 2nd house of 2nd marriage, while saturn > is in trines from UL, having argala and rashi dristi on UL. Aquaris > dasha is ruled by rahu in 2nd house and UL, while saturn aslo > infleunces UL and 2nd house. Here argument for leo navamsa is also > strong. should Saturn influence the upapada or 8th therefrom for timing marriage? > This discussion was very enjoyable, Yes it was. You should do more interpretations of celbrity charts. If you need any more, I'll post what I have. In the meantime, here are a few links to celebrity birthdata. http://miva.zodiacal.com/hunt.mv http://www.thenewage.com/ then click "tools and resources" the following just has 2,600 birthdays, no times. http://www.thecelebrityportal.com/index.html regards, Alex J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2001 Report Share Posted July 24, 2001 Namaste Alex, > > When you mention shani as being in 6th weak, it is his best place. > > Sani is not weak for rajayoga, as Sani is well placed in 6th, and for > Virgo is 5th lord in moolatrikona. What I meant was that the 6th lord > and planets in the duhstanas in the Navamsa chart are normally not > good for marriage. > Of course. Does, she have good marriage? > > > Remarriage is seen in 2nd house, not from saturn (as 7th lord). > > question about this: in the case of childbirth the 5th, 7th, 9th, etc > are taken as indicating qualities of the subsequent children, but the > planets influencing the 5th time the childbirth. > > In the case of spouses do we time from the 7th, 2nd, 9th and ignore > the 7th house for timing after the first loss/divorce? > No, we never ignore 7th house for both marriage/divorce. However, prime maraka for marriage is 8th house and 2nd house being 8th from 7th. Thefefore, 2nd house brings extramarital affairs, and 2nd spouse > > > Illness would come in case of leo navamsa, with atmakarak in > dustana. > > Does atmakarak always give illness in a navamsa duhstana? Madonna > also ran Sun dasa when younger, but as far as I know has remained > healthy. She even puts her body through much abuse from drugs and > sex. > Atmakarak will give illness when badly placed in navamsa chart. It may be somewhat modified by other placement, such as being in kendra to paka navamsa lagna, or some other beneficial places. My friend's daughter has afflicted chart, and atmakarak in dustana in navamsa. She was born with dieabetes. He has guru and rahu in 5th house in taurus. That is what I said about terrible conjunction of rahu and guru. > > > Do note that rashi is the primary chart for health, navamsa more > > relates to marriage, even though I agree that it may infleunce > > health as well. > > I think it must as well, both Parasar and Jaimini mention it. You are right. > > > For curse of Brahmins, guru needs to be in trines, or related to > > trines, in neecha or under rahu ifluence. > > Guru doesn't always need to be in trines. In this combination there > can be other factors as well such as a debilitated 9th lord, or Rahu > in the 9th, Sag, or Pisces. > Right, in kendra and kona this curse is unfailable. > > > Even in kumba saturn is not so well placed for such wealth, > > when found in 7th. > > Why is there no wealth with Saturn in the 7th? Doesn't Saturn here > get digbala and Sasa results? I agree with the late results for yoga > however in the 7th. > Yes digbala, and even sasa in special cases, when sun and moon are strong. But in navamsa it would give sasa results to spouse or through marriage. However, saturn is not well placed for wealth in 7th house > > Her first husband also does not seem to fit with Saturn in Kumbha > either. He is much more closer to Sun in Pisces 7th aspected by Moon > and Venus. Sean Penn is both an internationally famous actor and > movie director/producer. His ascendant is in a trine to Pisces > (Scorpio), and he has Sun and Venus in Arudha lagna, while they give > dristi to one lagna lord, and argala to another. > Agree.. The only confusing point about sun in pisces, is that it should give spiritual spouse. At least one spouse should be spiritual. We shall see what guru dasha would bring.. > > > In navamsa rahu is also in 2nd house of 2nd marriage, while saturn > > is in trines from UL, having argala and rashi dristi on UL. Aquaris > > dasha is ruled by rahu in 2nd house and UL, while saturn aslo > > infleunces UL and 2nd house. Here argument for leo navamsa is also > > strong. > > should Saturn influence the upapada or 8th therefrom for timing > marriage? > Any strong planet influencing upapada would bring spouse. Malefic unhappy, while benefic happy... > > > This discussion was very enjoyable, > > Yes it was. You should do more interpretations of celbrity charts. If > you need any more, I'll post what I have. In the meantime, here are a > few links to celebrity birthdata. Thank you for the links. Currently, I am very busy with book publishing and other activities.. However, ever ready to discuss the charts... Best wishes, Zoran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2001 Report Share Posted July 24, 2001 Namaste Zoran, Thanks for all of the clarifications. It has been a learning experience. In the future if you have some time, I have a question about Bruce Lee's D-24 chart. With his current time, Taurus rises with Mars in D-24. At first this looks promising, but Jupiter exalted in the 3rd, with Moon in the 6th, while Moon and Merc in the 3rd and 6th from Arudha lagna cannot give learning of martial arts and deadly fighting skill. If the time of birth is a few minutes earlier, warrior Aries rises, with exalted Sun, planet of close combat residing there. Rahu and Ketu are in the 3rd, with Saturn in the 6th, giving the fighting knowledge. The chart is much stronger as well, with exalted 5th/9th lords, 3 benefics in kendras, and every kendra and upachaya filled. He was a top expert in his field. For learning fighting, am I correct in looking to the 3rd/6th from ascendant/Arudha lagna in D-24? regards, Alex J _______________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Attachment: (application/octet-stream) Bruce Lee.jhd [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2001 Report Share Posted July 25, 2001 Dear Alex, I have not seen rashi and navamsa yet. For fighting and sports abilities one should always look for saturn and mars, and strong 3/6th houses. Inborn abilities are seen in navamsa and its trines. Then, dashamsa should fit. D-24 stands for education. 5th gives overall knowledge, while 4th formal education.9th stands for higher education. What is his education background? I think that more appropriate chart is D-27. However, one must be absolutely sure of rashi and navamsa chart, before stepping into other divisions. I would check the links to see the birthdata.. Best wishes, Zoran > In the future if you have some time, I have a question about Bruce Lee's > D-24 chart. > > With his current time, Taurus rises with Mars in D-24. At first this looks > promising, but Jupiter exalted in the 3rd, with Moon in the 6th, while Moon > and Merc in the 3rd and 6th from Arudha lagna cannot give learning of > martial arts and deadly fighting skill. > > If the time of birth is a few minutes earlier, warrior Aries rises, with > exalted Sun, planet of close combat residing there. Rahu and Ketu are in the > 3rd, with Saturn in the 6th, giving the fighting knowledge. > > The chart is much stronger as well, with exalted 5th/9th lords, 3 benefics > in kendras, and every kendra and upachaya filled. He was a top expert in his > field. > > For learning fighting, am I correct in looking to the 3rd/6th from > ascendant/Arudha lagna in D-24? > > regards, > > Alex J > > _______________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > ------ > Name: Bruce Lee.jhd > Bruce Lee.jhd Type: Jagannatha Hora Data (application/x-unknown-content-type-JHora.Document) > Encoding: base64 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2001 Report Share Posted July 25, 2001 AUM SRI GURUVE NAMAH Dear Alex and Zoran! I would say Mars should only be seen for fighting and sports abilities. Why Saturn? Mars in the trine to the navamsa lagna would show this inherent skill. Rasi aspect of Mars to the trines to the navamsa lagna also would show the same. D-24 is for formal education, whereas D-27 would be appropriate here, as mentioned by Zoran, which shows the abilities. If he had taken formal education on Martial arts then D-24 could be appropriate, otherwise D-27 should be looked. Malefics in the 3rd to Lagna, might give the courage but the dexterity and skills involved in martial can only be given by Mars. Pranaam Sarajit On Wed, 25 Jul 2001 ahimsa wrote: > Dear Alex, > I have not seen rashi and navamsa yet. For fighting and sports abilities one should always look for > saturn and mars, and strong 3/6th houses. Inborn abilities are seen in navamsa and its trines. Then, > dashamsa should fit. D-24 stands for education. 5th gives overall knowledge, while 4th formal > education.9th stands for higher education. What is his education background? I think that more > appropriate chart is D-27. However, one must be absolutely sure of rashi and navamsa chart, before > stepping into other divisions. I would check the links to see the birthdata.. > Best wishes, > Zoran > > > In the future if you have some time, I have a question about Bruce Lee's > > D-24 chart. > > > > With his current time, Taurus rises with Mars in D-24. At first this looks > > promising, but Jupiter exalted in the 3rd, with Moon in the 6th, while Moon > > and Merc in the 3rd and 6th from Arudha lagna cannot give learning of > > martial arts and deadly fighting skill. > > > > If the time of birth is a few minutes earlier, warrior Aries rises, with > > exalted Sun, planet of close combat residing there. Rahu and Ketu are in the > > 3rd, with Saturn in the 6th, giving the fighting knowledge. > > > > The chart is much stronger as well, with exalted 5th/9th lords, 3 benefics > > in kendras, and every kendra and upachaya filled. He was a top expert in his > > field. > > > > For learning fighting, am I correct in looking to the 3rd/6th from > > ascendant/Arudha lagna in D-24? > > > > regards, > > > > Alex J > > > > _______________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > ------ > > Name: Bruce Lee.jhd > > Bruce Lee.jhd Type: Jagannatha Hora Data (application/x-unknown-content-type-JHora.Document) > > Encoding: base64 > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2001 Report Share Posted July 27, 2001 Namaste Sarajit, > I would say Mars should only be seen for fighting and sports abilities. > Why Saturn? Mars in the trine to the navamsa lagna would show this > inherent skill. Rasi aspect of Mars to the trines to the navamsa lagna > also would show the same. > Saturn is very important in sportsman for many reasons. First, it rules muscles, discipline, ability to endure hardship both physical and mental etc. Do read the COVA of Sanjay's analyses of sportsman charts. > > D-24 is for formal education, whereas D-27 would be appropriate here, as > mentioned by Zoran, which shows the abilities. If he had taken formal > education on Martial arts then D-24 could be appropriate, otherwise D-27 > should be looked. > > Malefics in the 3rd to Lagna, might give the courage but the > dexterity and skills involved in martial can only be given by Mars. Do explain why not saturn. Sanjay also opines that saturn is very important in career of a boxer for example, as is the case with Mohamed Ali. Best wishes, Zoran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2001 Report Share Posted July 27, 2001 Dear Zoran, Why only Saturn and Mars? I thought all malefics are conducive to fighting spirit in the 3rd, 6th. I agree with you, he has inborn abilities, seen in the navamsa trines. In his case Sun is in lagna, giving close fighting abiliites as per Jaimini. He was the Hong Kong Cha-cha dance champion. This is shown by Sun, planet of rythm in Libra navamsa ascendant. The D-9 has exalted 7th lord and upapada lord Mars. The wife was from a far higher social level than him, and he married only once. Sun in 12th from UL, shows the opposition of the girl's father to the marriage. She was a foreigner (USA) shown by mercury, the 9th and 12th lord in the 7th. Exalted Mars in the 4th here shows the superior formal training that he had. Sun in navamsa ascendant his mastery of close combat weaponry. He also has many years of formal training from several teachers. Later he went on to found a school for teaching his martial arts. So this is why I asked about the D-24. But the D-10 should also show the teaching. In his case the 5th lord Jupiter goes into the 10th house of D-10. Would this show the teaching? Or must we look to A5 for his disciples? His A5 is in the 3rd house with exalted Mars. Am I right in assuming this would show warrior students? I believe that the D-7 needs to be rectified to Cancer as well. His first child was a son, who in turn became a successful actor, shown by exalted 9th lord Jupiter in pakalagna. He was shooting a film, and the stunt gun shot him through the head killing him. This occurred during Ketu dasa, showing the accident, which is in the 6th house of D-7, and in the 6th from 1st child paka lagna. It is believed to be due to an inherited curse through the father, which may be shown by Sun and Saturn being exactly conjunct in paka lagna. The second child was a daughter. As for the D-24. He was very educated in the martial arts. He was trained by one of the best teachers, and trained under several experts. He was even taught secret knowledge. D-27 gives strengths. This must be strong in his case, as he had amazing abilities and energy. He performed several impossible feats. I apologize about the birth info. I sent the jhd file before. Perhaps you didn't get it. Here it is again, with the charts. Bruce Lee history: http://home.coqui.net/jlromang/brucstor.htm? regards, Alex J Bruce Lee Date of Birth: November 27, 1940 Time of Birth: 7:12:00 am Time Zone of Birth: 8:00 West of GMT Longitude of Birth: 122 W 25 Latitude of Birth: 37 N 47 +----------------------+ | | | | | | | JupR | | | | Ket | | | | | | SatR | | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-------------| R A S I |-------------| | | | | | Glk | | | | | | | | Mnd | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | Sun Asc | | | | | | Ven Mar | | | | BL | | Rah | | | | Moo Mer | | | | HL GL | | | +----------------------+ +----------------------+ | | | | | | | | Rah | | | Moo | Mer | | | | | | Mnd | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-------------| N A V A M S A |-------------| | Mar | | | | | | JupR | | GL | | | | | | SatR | | Glk | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | BL | | | | | | Sun | | | Ven | HL | | | | | | Asc | | | | Ket | | | +----------------------+ +----------------------+ | | | | | | | | | | | Mer | | | Rah | | | | | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | JupR SatR | | Moo | | | | | | Sun Glk | | | | | |-------------| D - 7 |-------------| | | | Asc | | | | | | | | BL | | | | | | | | HL | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | Mar | | GL | | | | Ven | | | | Ket | | Mnd | | | | | | | +----------------------+ +----------------------+ | | | | | | | | | | | Ket | Moo | Mer | | | | | | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | | | GL | | | | | | | | | | | |-------------| D - 1 0 |-------------| | | | | | Mar | | | | | | JupR | | Mnd | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | Sun | | SatR | | Ven | | | | | | Asc | | Rah | | HL | | | | | | BL | | Glk | +----------------------+ +----------------------+ | | | Mar | Rah | | | | | | | | Sun | Asc | BL | | | | | | | | | Mnd | Ket | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | | | Ven | | JupR | | | | | | | | | |-------------| D - 2 4 |-------------| | | | | | Mer | | | | | | HL | | GL | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | | | SatR | | | | Moo | | | | | | Glk | | | | | | +----------------------+ +----------------------+ | | | | | | | | JupR | SatR | | HL | | | | | | | Ven | Mer | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | Moo | | | | | | Mnd | | Ket | | | | | | | |-------------| D - 2 7 |-------------| | | | | | | | Rah | | BL | | | | | | Mar | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | | | GL | | Asc | Sun | | | | | | | Glk | | | | | | +----------------------+ _______________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Attachment: (application/octet-stream) Bruce Lee.jhd [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2001 Report Share Posted July 27, 2001 Namaste Sarajit, > I would say Mars should only be seen for fighting and sports abilities. Why not the other malefics, Sun, Rahu, Ketu and Saturn? Both Parasar and Jaimini state that natural malefics in the 3rd/6th cause working in the armed forces, etc. Sun in a trine from Swamsa, or AL gives swordsmanship, or close combat, Mars one who fights with a lance, Rahu a bowman, Saturn an archer. Jaimini and Parashar indicate this. >From this I understand that for guns Saturn and Rahu become very important. And for close combat, more Mars and Sun. In Bruce Lee's chart, Sun is in the lagna for most of the D-charts. > If he had taken formal > education on Martial arts then D-24 could be appropriate, otherwise D-27 should be looked. He took very formal training. In fact he had exemplary training from the best, and he learned very well. That is why I believe the D-24 must be strong. regards, Alex J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2001 Report Share Posted July 28, 2001 AUM NAMAH SIVAYA Dear Alex and Zoran! On Sat, 28 Jul 2001, Alex J wrote: > Namaste Sarajit, > > > I would say Mars should only be seen for fighting and sports > abilities. > > Why not the other malefics, Sun, Rahu, Ketu and Saturn? Both Parasar > and Jaimini state that natural malefics in the 3rd/6th cause working > in the armed forces, etc. Malefics in the 3rd/6th only shows whether the person is courageous and brave or not. There is a high probability of these persons going to armed forces which needs boldness and courage. However, in sports and figting, dexterity is required along with courage hence I mentioned in my previous mail, that malefics in the 3rd/ 6th from Lagna in Rasi does show courage, whether the person is skillful or not should be seen from the tines of the navamsa lagna. I stand corrected, wrt, the indications you mentioned for different planets influencing the trine gives different skill sets. However, Mars and "the Sun" should be influencing the trines to the navamsa lagna to show dexterity for the martial arts which is infact a close combat kind. Anyway, I have to do my homework properly before I jump to conclusions :-) Zoran mentioned that Saturn should aslo be involved. I would say here that Saturn gives, tenacity, perseverence and hardwork. Saturn's influence on the indications present in the chart for martial art should give tenacity in that regard, however, Saturn by itself doesnot give skills in martial art. This is true in many regards wrt Saturn's Tenacity. Regards Sarajit > Sun in a trine from Swamsa, or AL gives swordsmanship, or close > combat, Mars one who fights with a lance, Rahu a bowman, Saturn an > archer. Jaimini and Parashar indicate this. > > >From this I understand that for guns Saturn and Rahu become very > important. And for close combat, more Mars and Sun. > > In Bruce Lee's chart, Sun is in the lagna for most of the D-charts. > > > If he had taken formal > > education on Martial arts then D-24 could be appropriate, otherwise > D-27 should be looked. > > He took very formal training. In fact he had exemplary training from > the best, and he learned very well. That is why I believe the D-24 > must be strong. > > regards, > > Alex J > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2001 Report Share Posted July 28, 2001 Sir, My details are as follows: Name:Dinesh Kumbnani Date of Birth: 23rd August,1967 Time of Birth:1220hrs(12:20pm) Place of Birth:elhi,India Could you advise when shall I get employed? Thanks and Best Regards, Dinesh ahimsa Sat, 28 Jul 2001 04:03:48 +0200 vedic astrology Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Madonna's birthdata - Zoran Namaste Sarajit, > I would say Mars should only be seen for fighting and sports abilities. > Why Saturn? Mars in the trine to the navamsa lagna would show this > inherent skill. Rasi aspect of Mars to the trines to the navamsa lagna > also would show the same. > Saturn is very important in sportsman for many reasons. First, it rules muscles, discipline, ability to endure hardship both physical and mental etc. Do read the COVA of Sanjay's analyses of sportsman charts. > > D-24 is for formal education, whereas D-27 would be appropriate here, as > mentioned by Zoran, which shows the abilities. If he had taken formal > education on Martial arts then D-24 could be appropriate, otherwise D-27 > should be looked. > > Malefics in the 3rd to Lagna, might give the courage but the > dexterity and skills involved in martial can only be given by Mars. Do explain why not saturn. Sanjay also opines that saturn is very important in career of a boxer for example, as is the case with Mohamed Ali. Best wishes, Zoran Your use of is subject to _________________________ Visit http://www.visto.com. Find out how companies are linking mobile users to the enterprise with Visto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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