ketu's ashtakavarga / shayanadi avasthas

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O Mahadeva, Thou art an endless ocean of compassion!

Dear friends,

Firstly, thank you very much, Visti, for clearing up the puzzle with

the degrees/minutes of the bhamsha chart. Much

appreciated. You say that the degrees/minutes in a divisional chart

are useless. I respectfully disagree. Currently I'm working

on something that seems to suggest otherwise. I still have some homework

there, but I'll get back to this

when I've completed it. For now I have two other queries.

In the June, 1984 issue of the “Astrological Magazine” Dr Raman gives

the ashtakavargas for

both Rahu AND Ketu. This latter elucidation is of interest. For is

not Ketu the mokshkarak? It

has always seemed strange to me that, bearing in mind that Ketu fulfils

this most important

function, this is the only reference I have ever managed to find regarding

Ketu’s ashtakavarga.

I quote, “after reading my note on Guru Nadi in an earlier issue

some readers wanted to know

the ashtakavaraga bindus for Rahu and Ketu as given in the above

work. They are: Rahu’s

ashtakavarga: The Sun; 1, 4, 6, 7, 8, 11 (6) ; the Moon: 1, 3, 6,

7, 10, 11 (6) ; Mars: 2, 3, 5, 6,

9 10, 11 (7); Mercury: 1, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 10, 11 (8); Jupiter: 6,

8 11, 12 (4) ; Venus: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5,

8, 9, 10, 11 (9). (Total 55)

Ketu’s ashtakavarga: the Sun: 1, 6, 8, 11 (4) ; the Moon: 3, 6, 11

(3) ; Mars: 3, 4, 6, 9, 11, 12

(6); Mercury 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, j9, 10, 11 (8) ; Jupiter: 6, 8, 11,

12 (4) ; Venus 6, 8, 11, 12 (4) ;

Saturn: 3, 5, 6, 11, 12 (5) ; Ketu: 3, 6, 9, 11 (4) (Total 38).

It is pointed out the two planets will give according to their intrinsic

strength in the horoscope,

the good and bad effects as and when they transit the good and bad

houses indicated by the

bindus. Vedhas are not given”. End of quote.

My question is this: has anyone ever seen any other reference to Ketu’s

ashtakavarga? All the

standard works on the subject give no mention of this. Also, since

Ketu has so much to do

with the coming into / leaving of earthly life why has this been ignored

for so long?

On another subject entirely, I also note that R. Santhanam in

his most interesting work,

“Essentials of Predictive Hindu Astrology” gives a partial list of

the Shayandi avasthas with

regard to their effect on health. I have been checking this for some

time and have found it to

be an excellent way of gaining an overall impression of the health

of an individual. Does

anyone know of a more complete listing?

Many blessings,

Peter Boronowskis

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Dear Peter.

I'll try to answer your question the best i can.

 

Astakavarga is based on the individual position of planets in relation to each

other, to hence give strength the the certain graha. This is not based on

Karaka, but i would think twice about finding the astakavarga of the Nodes.

Whats the source of Ramans findings in this case?

 

Ketu is indeed Moksha Karaka, and thats why it stays out of the Chara Karaka

scheme, but Astakavarga is a different ordeal.

 

Best wishes, Visti.

-

Peter

vedic astrology

Thursday, July 19, 2001 4:44 AM

[vedic astrology] ketu's ashtakavarga / shayanadi avasthas

O Mahadeva, Thou art an endless ocean of compassion! Dear friends, Firstly,

thank you very much, Visti, for clearing up the puzzle with the degrees/minutes

of the bhamsha chart. Much appreciated. You say that the degrees/minutes in a

divisional chart are useless. I respectfully disagree. Currently I'm working on

something that seems to suggest otherwise. I still have some homework there, but

I'll get back to this when I've completed it. For now I have two other queries.

In the June, 1984 issue of the “Astrological Magazine” Dr Raman

gives the ashtakavargas for both Rahu AND Ketu. This latter elucidation is of

interest. For is not Ketu the mokshkarak? It has always seemed strange to me

that, bearing in mind that Ketu fulfils this most important function, this is

the only reference I have ever managed to find regarding Ketu’s

ashtakavarga. I quote, “after reading my note on Guru Nadi in an earlier

issue some readers wanted to know the ashtakavaraga bindus for Rahu and Ketu as

given in the above work. They are: Rahu’s ashtakavarga: The Sun; 1, 4, 6,

7, 8, 11 (6) ; the Moon: 1, 3, 6, 7, 10, 11 (6) ; Mars: 2, 3, 5, 6, 9 10, 11

(7); Mercury: 1, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 10, 11 (8); Jupiter: 6, 8 11, 12 (4) ; Venus:

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8, 9, 10, 11 (9). (Total 55) Ketu’s ashtakavarga: the Sun:

1, 6, 8, 11 (4) ; the Moon: 3, 6, 11 (3) ; Mars: 3, 4, 6, 9, 11, 12 (6); Mercury

1, 2, 4, 5, 6, j9, 10, 11 (8) ; Jupiter: 6, 8, 11, 12 (4) ; Venus 6, 8, 11, 12

(4) ; Saturn: 3, 5, 6, 11, 12 (5) ; Ketu: 3, 6, 9, 11 (4) (Total 38). It is

pointed out the two planets will give according to their intrinsic strength in

the horoscope, the good and bad effects as and when they transit the good and

bad houses indicated by the bindus. Vedhas are not given”. End of quote.

My question is this: has anyone ever seen any other reference to Ketu’s

ashtakavarga? All the standard works on the subject give no mention of this.

Also, since Ketu has so much to do with the coming into / leaving of earthly

life why has this been ignored for so long? On another subject entirely, I

also note that R. Santhanam in his most interesting work, “Essentials of

Predictive Hindu Astrology” gives a partial list of the Shayandi avasthas

with regard to their effect on health. I have been checking this for some time

and have found it to be an excellent way of gaining an overall impression of

the health of an individual. Does anyone know of a more complete listing? Many

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Visti Larsen wrote:

 

Dear Peter.I'll try to answer your question the best

i can. Astakavarga is based on the individual position of planets

in relation to each other, to hence give strength the the certain graha.

This is not based on Karaka, but i would think twice about finding the

astakavarga of the Nodes. Whats the source of Ramans findings in this case? Ketu

is indeed Moksha Karaka, and thats why it stays out of the Chara Karaka

scheme, but Astakavarga is a different ordeal. Best wishes, Visti.

Dear Visti,

As I stated in the quoted passage, the info re Ketu's ashtakavarga seems

to come from a work entitled "Guru Nadi". I take your point re graha/karaka,

but I still think Ketu gets a "raw deal"! Yes, it may "only" be a chhaya

graha, but it seems strange that the ashtakavarga for Rahu is regularly

mentioned in all the standard works, while Ketu isn't.

By the way, do you have any thoughts on the Sayandi avasthas?

Many blessings,

Peter

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Dear Peter.

I'm still abit perplexed on how to incorporate the Avasthas of the planets into

actual prediction, for the time being, i'd say the state of the planet during

which it may excert its desire to perform an action, may have very important

consequences. They are no doubt very important, but i haven't put them into

propper use yet.

 

Best wishes, Visti.

-

Peter

vedic astrology

Friday, July 20, 2001 3:07 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] ketu's ashtakavarga / shayanadi avasthas

Visti Larsen wrote:

Dear Peter.I'll try to answer your question the best i can. Astakavarga is based

on the individual position of planets in relation to each other, to hence give

strength the the certain graha. This is not based on Karaka, but i would think

twice about finding the astakavarga of the Nodes. Whats the source of Ramans

findings in this case? Ketu is indeed Moksha Karaka, and thats why it stays out

of the Chara Karaka scheme, but Astakavarga is a different ordeal. Best wishes,

Visti.Dear Visti, As I stated in the quoted passage, the info re Ketu's

ashtakavarga seems to come from a work entitled "Guru Nadi". I take your point

re graha/karaka, but I still think Ketu gets a "raw deal"! Yes, it may "only"

be a chhaya graha, but it seems strange that the ashtakavarga for Rahu is

regularly mentioned in all the standard works, while Ketu isn't. By the way, do

you have any thoughts on the Sayandi avasthas? Many blessings, Peter Archives:

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