Administrator's Last Word on Karma and Purushardha

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Pranaam Gauranga prabhu and other list members,

 

> I have given the list. Aprarabhdha, Prarabdha, Koota, Beeja and

> Phalaunmukha. These are the types. This is shastric. Your reference

was not

> proven to be shastric to this point. You have cited in your other

letter

> many great Swamis' versions. Certainly my respects are theirs

because they

> were great jnaanis, but I couldn;t trace in your quites any

reference to any

> scriptures by any of them. So please show me exact references in

Veda,

> Puran, Upanishad etc. for the types of karmas listed by you. Then I

will

> accept. This was what I mentioned before. A saint's statement must

be based

> on the revealed scrpitures, and he should show that they are, not

just make

> us believe it. Lrishna says in the Gita tha the austerity of the

speech is

> to quote shastra when you speak. So we should follow this

instruction of Sri

> Krishna.

>

> By the way I suggest to drop this thread unless you can prove your

point

> with shastric reference.

 

I stressed this point many times in the past. Those who read

translations of Puranas may think that an issue is as unambiguously

stated in Puranas as it is in the translation they are reading. But

that is not always true. For example, you once quoted a verse from a

Purana that, as per Srila Prabhupada's translation, belittled Shiva's

worship compared to Vishnu's. As per my interpretation, it

unambiguously states that it is a sin to distinguish between the two.

So it's not so simple to say that "sastras support me".

 

Just because the translation you possess makes things seem very

clear, don't assume they are. If they were, you wouldn't have so many

saints with differing views.

 

If a saint read the same literature you did and came up with a

different interpretation of things, you should respect it. Rejecting

him because you think your understanding of sastras is ultimate is

unreasonable and closed-minded. The belligerance with which some

people belonging to one spiritual school reject other spiritual

schools today is in direct contrast with the open-minded and

infinitely flexible approach usually associated with Hinduism,

Upanishats and Darsanas.

 

I want this to be the last word on this matter and suggest getting on

with astrology. As a general rule, this list is for discussing

astrology. However, some topics related to spirituality are relevant

to astrology are acceptable. Certainly topics like karma and

purushardha are welcome here. However, I want learned people like

Gauranga and Satya to live together on this list and respect each

other without attacking the foundations of the other's spiritual

school. Because this particular thread hit a dead end now, I request

everyone to stop this discussion. Everyone has already expressed

their views and it is upto the readers to accept one or the other.

 

I will NOT appreciate further discussion on this topic here.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

List Administrator