Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 JAYA JAGANNATHA! Dear Sarajit, Namaste. AUM SRI GURUVE NAMAH Dear Visti and Mahalinga! Just want to share some thoughts... If so many other things (other than the 9 planets and the lagna) affect a horoscope and can colour and interpretation of the horoscope, then why don't we consider all of them when we interpret a horoscope. The answer could be "whether we need such accuracy in practical interpretation of a horoscopes. Astrology is meant for counselling where I think such level of accuracy is not required for day-to-day consultations. Moreoover, when we can collect the information from verbal interaction, does it worth the effort of finding the same from the chart. The only requirement of such accuracy could be for phylosophical purpose and to verify the validity of Jyotish as a objective science. Well, my thoughts are as follows: Remmebre Narasimha earlier mentioning many astrologers who could give correct predictions with only Rasi, Navamsa and Vimsottari Dasa. This is of course possible, and no doubt this limited set od parameters contains the most prominent factors of the chart. But there is alos no doubt in the fact that there may be several people with the same factors as per above, and still different lives. However, you should notice, that the same Rasi and Navamsa weill still desacribe their life events. This means that these key factors have multiple meanings, when it comes to interpretation. Let's take an example. Rahu in the Upapada may indicate that the native's spouse is a foreigner, or has dakr complexion, or is an outcaste, or maybe a criminal. It may well be that for different charts woth Rahu in Upapada different of these options will be true. While practically doing the chart reading, you have two choices: either to list all the possibilities that an indication can give (it's neither possible nor prectical to do so as the client does not give a real dierction in this way) and the other possibility is to rely on your intuition (divya drishti) and give the reading in this way. You can't avoid the help of intuition, especially if doing a reading with a limiteds set of data, or, for instance with unknown or even incorrect birth particulars! I personally had a few cases of giving correct readings with an incorrect birth time, and alter on when the correct birth time transpired, the particular reading was the same. So intuition should be there. But, if you take into consideration more parameters like more D-charts, Karakas, Sahams, Dasas etc., then you can even just technically narrow down the results of a reading. This also happens when you find contradictory factors. You usually decide with the reading that is supported by more factors. It will actually be impossible to scientifically prove the validity of Jyotish. This is because science works on the level of intelligence of the modern Kali yuga human beings, of which even the geniuses are far below the level of thought fo the Mahrishis. That's why instead of aiding our intuition with the array of parameters introduced by Jaimini and Parasara, we feel disturbed, and try to reduce them to a set of data that can be handled by an intellectual pygmie of the modern age. Therefore we should respect tradition and pray to our Gurus and chant the Guru Mantra regularly to receive enough inspiration to understand at least a part of this great knowledge and make proper use of it. Yours, Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer <gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net> Phone: +36-309-140-839 Jyotish Remedies: WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2001 Report Share Posted July 11, 2001 AUM SRI GURUVE NAMAH Dear Gauranga! Pranaam I agree with you with the fact that, unlike other diciplines, Jyotish is a devine discipline which can put light on the wish of the supreme being the supreme law known as rta in veda in giving us the life and the destiny. This is also true that we take help of our intution to judge many things in jyotish in giving prediction. Even I did that on many instances which came very true. Only because, we can judge things with intuition, we can't deny that Jyotish is a science. Like other emperical science, Jyotish is also a science. We might not verify the cause and effect of different factors influencing human destiny, however, we can say with certainity that there is high degree of correlation of indications in horoscope and human life events (if certain other moderating and influencing variables are kept constant). This should be sufficient to justify Jyotish to be a science. However, unlike other science, there are so many interrelated factors (variables) in jyotish, that, it is near to impossible for human mind to process all of them before giving prediction. So we judge horoscope based on Heuristics, thats is culling out some information (not all ) from all these factors and give prediction. For these, intuition and Guru Kripa is infact necessary, otherwise, we could be quite off the mark with the limited information we process with our mind before giving prediction. I remain Regards Sarajit _________________________________Sarajit PoddarConsultant, Business Solutions GroupHCL Infosystems LimitedE 4,5,6; Sector 11, Noida 201 301Phone: +91 (011) 455109________________________________ - Gauranga Das vedic astrology Tuesday, July 10, 2001 8:53 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Importance and weight fo factors in a chart JAYA JAGANNATHA! Dear Sarajit, Namaste. AUM SRI GURUVE NAMAH Dear Visti and Mahalinga! Just want to share some thoughts... If so many other things (other than the 9 planets and the lagna) affect a horoscope and can colour and interpretation of the horoscope, then why don't we consider all of them when we interpret a horoscope. The answer could be "whether we need such accuracy in practical interpretation of a horoscopes. Astrology is meant for counselling where I think such level of accuracy is not required for day-to-day consultations. Moreoover, when we can collect the information from verbal interaction, does it worth the effort of finding the same from the chart. The only requirement of such accuracy could be for phylosophical purpose and to verify the validity of Jyotish as a objective science. Well, my thoughts are as follows: Remmebre Narasimha earlier mentioning many astrologers who could give correct predictions with only Rasi, Navamsa and Vimsottari Dasa. This is of course possible, and no doubt this limited set od parameters contains the most prominent factors of the chart. But there is alos no doubt in the fact that there may be several people with the same factors as per above, and still different lives. However, you should notice, that the same Rasi and Navamsa weill still desacribe their life events. This means that these key factors have multiple meanings, when it comes to interpretation. Let's take an example. Rahu in the Upapada may indicate that the native's spouse is a foreigner, or has dakr complexion, or is an outcaste, or maybe a criminal. It may well be that for different charts woth Rahu in Upapada different of these options will be true. While practically doing the chart reading, you have two choices: either to list all the possibilities that an indication can give (it's neither possible nor prectical to do so as the client does not give a real dierction in this way) and the other possibility is to rely on your intuition (divya drishti) and give the reading in this way. You can't avoid the help of intuition, especially if doing a reading with a limiteds set of data, or, for instance with unknown or even incorrect birth particulars! I personally had a few cases of giving correct readings with an incorrect birth time, and alter on when the correct birth time transpired, the particular reading was the same. So intuition should be there. But, if you take into consideration more parameters like more D-charts, Karakas, Sahams, Dasas etc., then you can even just technically narrow down the results of a reading. This also happens when you find contradictory factors. You usually decide with the reading that is supported by more factors. It will actually be impossible to scientifically prove the validity of Jyotish. This is because science works on the level of intelligence of the modern Kali yuga human beings, of which even the geniuses are far below the level of thought fo the Mahrishis. That's why instead of aiding our intuition with the array of parameters introduced by Jaimini and Parasara, we feel disturbed, and try to reduce them to a set of data that can be handled by an intellectual pygmie of the modern age. Therefore we should respect tradition and pray to our Gurus and chant the Guru Mantra regularly to receive enough inspiration to understand at least a part of this great knowledge and make proper use of it. Yours, Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer <gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net> Phone: +36-309-140-839 Jyotish Remedies: WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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