Meena's Nadi

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Dear list members,

 

I am giving some excerpts from 'Nadi Jyotis' (Meena's Nadi), the work of

Gopal Krishna Rao after this.

 

Mr satyaketu wrote:-

> satyaketu

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>It should be pointed out that the use of a lunar zodiac distinguishes

>Jyotish from Western astrology. Though most Vedic astrologers use the

>nakshatras in some way or the other, a lot of us do not use them with a

>CONSISTENT methodology. In the sixties and seventies, the use of the

>nakshatras was given a lot of stress by some geniuses like Sri Gopal

>Krishna Rao (Meena), Sri Seshadri Iyer and Sri Krishnamurthy. According to

>Sri Seshadri Iyer the sign lord is the sthoola (gross) lord while the

>nakshatra is the sukshma (subtle) lord. Both Sri Seshadri Iyer's as well as

>Sri Krishnamurthi's students had some sort of a table listing the

>significators of houses. It should be pointed out that in this article I am

>using a similar list of significators for various houses. Sri Krishnamurthy

>always stressed that planets in the nakshatra of a significator are

>stronger than even the significator to give results. He also used the subs

>for refinement, which I am using sparingly on purpose in this post.<

 

Excerpt1:-

Sun Dasha

Antar Dasha Longitude in Krittika, Uttaraaphalguni, Uttarashad

or From To

Sub Period ° ' " ° ' "

Sun 0 0 0 0 40 0

Moon 0 40 0 1 46 40

Mars 1 46 40 2 33 20

Rahu 2 33 20 4 33 20

Jupiter 4 33 20 6 20 0

Saturn 6 20 0 8 26 40

Mercury 8 26 40 10 20 0

Ketu 10 20 0 11 6 40

Venus 11 6 40 13 20 0

 

Take note of the fact that the division of the Nakshatras has been done on

the basis of the duration of each sub-period. These sub-division of the

Nakshatras were later called sub-lord divisions by K S Krishnamurti. His so

called 'K. P. System' developed from the ideas borrowed from this work of

Gopal Krishna Rao.

Excerpt2:-

Predicting 'Tithi' and 'Paksh (fortnight)' of the occurrence of events as

Births, Marriage etc.

Take the house or sign in which the planet responsible for the event is

situated. Divide it into two parts of 15 degrees each. If the sign is odd,

the first part is known as 'Shukla Paksh' and the 2nd part as the 'Krishna

Paksh'. If it is an even sign the first part is Krishna Paksh and the 2nd

part as Shukla Paksh. Locate the degree in which that planet is situated.

The event must occur during the tithi corresponding to the number of degree

in which the planet is situated.

 

 

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Aum Namah Shivaya!

 

Namaste,

 

>These sub-division of the Nakshatras were later called sub-lord

>divisions by K S Krishnamurti. His so called 'K. P. System'

>developed from the ideas borrowed from this work of Gopal Krishna

>Rao.

 

 

I have come across this many times. It is clear to any student of

astrology who has done a comparative study of both the approaches of

Sri Gopala Krishna Rao and Sri K S Krishnamurthi that KSK was

definetely influenced and infact "borrowed" certain ideas from

Meena's Nadi. Certain ideas that were given in *seed forms were

developed well in KP. But KP has a lot more that Meena's nadi does

not have. The full fledged consistent METHODOLOGY as given by KSK is

very different. The almost rigid way of taking significators (seen

quite differently), Ruling planets, Placidus houses, KP prasna, and

a couple of other ingredients, all go into KP. It is not really fair

to say that KP system developed from the borrowed ideas of Meena

since it might be misleading. Whether KSK has plagiarised or borrowed

ideas or not, is not my point. That KP is definetely UNIQUE inspite

of certain similarities (or even borrowing), is all that I beg to

point out. And yes, one cannot deny that Meena's Nadi astrology makes

interesting reading.I have also come across another allegation that

KSK pinched his ayanamsha from Sri C.G.Rajan which is also not really

true. I have a few of Sri C.G.Rajan's works. Undoubtedly he is a

brilliant astrologer and scholar. But where does the question of

pinching the ayanamsha arise, when the ayanamsha used by Sri KSK is

*NEWCOMB'S AYANAMSHA? I do not intend to start a debate on any of

these issues. And as I remarked earlier, I am not related to any of

these people. But just to set the record straight.... All these great

people are no more here. I think it is time for us to get out of the

controversies and assimilate what they taught. A meta-analysis of the

works of such brilliant minds such as C.G.Rajan, Krishnamurthi,

Gopala Krishna Rao, Seshadri Iyer and others who contributed

wonderful ideas to Jyotish during the sixties to seventies can yield

gems of astrology. Salutations to all those great minds.

 

I was just trying to give an unbiased view here. I dont wish to start

a discussion. First I thought that I better refrain from writing. But

since a similar point has appeared on the list atleast three times

fron December, I thought that I might as well add my bit. My

apologies to anyone who differs. Jyotish is beyond names and

individuals. We give names to different approaches just for

convenience and reference. The basis of division of the subs IS

ACTUALLY PARASARA'S VIMSOTTARI DASA. Neither Meena nor KSK can claim

absolute originality in that sense. It was a momemt of insight that

led Meena to suggest the idea. That it was one of the few wonderful

ideas that helped KSK to develop KP, is also another moment of

insight. We all stand on the shoulders of some earlier minds. But we

humans, however brilliant we may be, have nothing really new to

*invent in Jyotish. We can only have *insights and inspirations. The

credit goes to the Almighty and the sages. Generations come and go.

Each night when I look at the stars and the Moon I remind myself that

my grandfather and his grandfather and his... looked at the same

stars. They have all merged into the dust beneath. No one even

remembers their names.

 

May the truth set us free,

Satya

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MR umang taneja in his book on ACCURATE PREDICTVE

Methodoly,(email: umangtaneja), has stated

that he has written the book based on NADI ASTROLOGY.

The methodology and the Ayanamsa used is very similar

to what KP used. There are some significant variations

also.. RAHU KETU are said to aspect 5 and 9th houses

from their position. Uranus,Neptune, and Pluto are

allotted a Sign over which they rule.

This is just an information . Not a comment

good luck

 

 

 

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Dear list,

 

The book of Umang Taneja based on nadi astrology incorporating

extra-saturnine planets Uranus, Neptune, Pluto has nothing to do with

'Meena's Nadi' which is just another name for 'Nadi Jyotish' written by 'R

Gopal Krishna Rao (Meena)' and published by him in 3 parts in 1951. All the

books with names starting or including the word 'Nadi' do not become

'Meena's Nadi'. So please get corrected in this regard.

 

Theory of sub-lords originated with this book and Krishnamurty developed his

system (KP) from this book and added more of concepts and principles to it

as Mr Satyaketu pointed out in his previous email. KP is a very elaborate

system based on Nakshatras and stands on its own now.

 

Best wishes,

 

Shiv Chadha

 

 

 

>sridhar k <kopparsa

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>vedic astrology

>Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Meena's Nadi

>Thu, 26 Jul 2001 22:57:03 -0700 (PDT)

>

>MR umang taneja in his book on ACCURATE PREDICTVE

>Methodoly,(email: umangtaneja), has stated

>that he has written the book based on NADI ASTROLOGY.

>The methodology and the Ayanamsa used is very similar

>to what KP used. There are some significant variations

>also.. RAHU KETU are said to aspect 5 and 9th houses

>from their position. Uranus,Neptune, and Pluto are

>allotted a Sign over which they rule.

>This is just an information . Not a comment

>good luck

>

>

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