Guest guest Posted July 7, 2001 Report Share Posted July 7, 2001 Dear Sarajit, > Shall we take up another spiritual personality such as Aurobindo Ghosh to > see how this works in the life of saints who are above maya and strictly > speaking above the bondage of Life and Death. This could be a good > exercise for all of us. Can anyone share the Birth details of this great > saint? > > Regards > Sarajit The birthdata I have for Sri Aurobindo is: August 15, 1872 Time: 5:19:00 Time Zone: 5:53:00 (East of GMT) Longitude: 88 E 20' 00" Latitude: 22 N 30' 00" D-1 is: lagna, Mars & Jupiter in Cn; Sun, Mercury & Venus in Le; Ketu in Sc; Saturn & Moon in Sg; Rahu in Ta. D-60 is: lagna & Saturn in Li; Moon in Sc; Venus in Cp; Jupiter & Rahu in Aq; Mars in Ta; Mercury in Cn; Sun & Ketu in Le. Moola Dasa: Maha Dasas: Sun: 1872-08-15 (05:19:00) - 1878-06-11 (01:43:13) Mer: 1878-06-11 (01:43:13) - 1893-12-19 (12:19:50) Ven: 1893-12-19 (12:19:50) - 1911-07-06 (18:41:23) Ket: 1911-07-06 (18:41:23) - 1918-04-21 (14:21:56) Rah: 1918-04-21 (14:21:56) - 1927-01-13 (15:05:11) Sat: 1927-01-13 (15:05:11) - 1943-08-12 (03:37:02) Moo: 1943-08-12 (03:37:02) - 1948-06-17 (05:52:42) Jup: 1948-06-17 (05:52:42) - 1958-03-02 (00:37:18) Note 1: For computation details, see my or Sanjay's old posts in archives. Note 2: Though Sanjay takes only lagna and Moon for starting dasas, I take Sun too, as advised by Varahamihira, Prithuyasas and Kalyana Verma. In this case, however, I *suspect* Sanjay will also not mind using Sun. Sun dasa was over when he was too young. Mercury dasa came in 1878 and lasted till 1893. Mercury is the 9th and 12th lord in 10th in D-60. If the 9th and 12th lord is in 10th, it can give activities related to religion. It can also give a career in a foreign land. As a functional benefic in 10th, Mercury may have given given a good career in past life. However, Mercury is in Karaala-Danshtramsa (a demonic being with dreadful teeth). As the 9th lord in Karala-Danshtramsa, Mercury may have made him live abroad. In Mercury's Moola dasa, it continued. From 1879 to 1893, Aurobindo lived in England away from family. As per his father's wishes, he was brought up in European culture totally unaware of Indian culture and Indian way of life. Though he mastered 7 foreign languages, he could not even speak his mother tongue Bengali well (let alone Sanskrit!). Mercury, who stood for some good karma in past life (9th lord in 10th in D-60), made him shine in education and languages, but he gave a lot of foreign influence. In rasi chart also, Mercury is 12th lord and shows being away from motherland. In 1893, he came back to India after finishing ICS and held several government posts. He learnt several Indian languages including Sanskrit, got exposed to Hindu philosophy and got into yoga. He also got into politics and freedom fight. He was even imprisoned. During all this time, Moola dasa of Venus was running. In D-60, Venus is lagna and 8th lord in Indvamsa (meaning Moon - good). In past life, he stood for overall development (lagna), finding roots (lagna), yogic sadhana (8th), status in society (Venus in AL) and enmities (Venus in A6). As a continuation of activities in past life, Venus gave similar activities in this life too! Next dasa of Ketu changed his life. He renounced his career, politics and everything and moved to Pondicherry in south India. He went seriously into yoga and spiritual matters. He wrote a lot of excellent articles in "Arya" magazine and some sishyas gathered around him. Why was there such a huge change in his life? It's because of Ketu's Moola dasa. Ketu is in the 5th house in own house in rasi. Being in A9, he can give some activities of organized religion (A9). Being in 5th in Scorpio, he can direct the intelligence (5th) to probe the hidden and occult (Ketu & Sc). Ketu is in the house of gains in D-60 with atma karaka Sun. Sun is clearly the most outstanding planet in his case. He occupies moolatrikona or exaltation sign in 15 out of 16 divisional charts and that places him in the exceptionally strong Golokamsa. It is rarely that we see people with a planet in Golokamsa. With atmakaraka in Golokamsa, he had a very advanced soul. Our souls have to go through thousands of lives and millions of experiences to reach that level of union with the Supreme. Being with such Sun in D-60, Ketu (significator of spirituality) must've given a lot of spiritual advancement in past life. Moreover, he is in Kali-naasaamsa (destruction of Kali - ignorance and malice). Ketu in kali-naasaamsa associated with a strong Sun must've given a lot of excellent spiritual activities in past life. It continued in this life and the onset of Ketu's Moola dasa took this multi-faceted and myriad-minded genius away from all the political activcities and into yogic sadhana and spirituality. Being in the 5th house in own house in rasi, Ketu can also give some power and authority (related to religion of course). Next dasa was of Rahu. Rahu is with Jupiter in 5th in D-60. Normally, this is considered as Guru-chandala yoga (i.e. deceiving one's guru). If Rakshasa (demon - Rahu) is with Jupiter (Guru), does it only need to the deceit of guru? Can't the demon be reformed? In this D-60, Rahu is in own sign (Aq) and gives asraya (residence) to Jupiter (Guru). Rahu, like Ketu, is in Kali-naasamsa. If Rahu, the giver of Kali, himself is set to destroy Kali, who will give ignorance? So Rahu, in this D-60, does NOT denote deceiving a guru, but he may denote offering residence to a very advanced and sweet-mannered guru (Jupiter in Amritamsa - amrita means nectar) in a foreign land (Aq & Rahu) and working to destroy ignorance in this world (kali-naasa). So Rahu dasa continued the same activities. In fact, one reaps the fruits of what one sows and Aurobindo was blessed in Rahu dasa with a brilliant sishya who helped him in his ashram activities. A French lady of Egyptian descent, came to him in Rahu's Moola dasa, and took over the ashram responsibilities. She is known as "the Mother". In 1927, Saturn's Moola dasa started. With this, he retired into seclusion and left all the ashram responsibilities to "The Mother". He pursued yogic sadhana in complete isolation and became arguably the most advanced yogi of this age. He also wrote commentaries on Vedas and Upanishats. In rasi chart, Saturn is with Moon and denotes renunciation. In D-60, he is exalted in Libra lagna, giving Sasa yoga. He is in the favorable Seetalamsa (meaning cool). Saturn in the past life may have given wandering and renunciation. That spirit of positive Saturn continued in this life (thanks also to Saturn-Moon combination in rasi) and he retired from ashram activities. Two concluding remarks: (1) If you calculate Moola dasa correctly, often Moola dasa transitions coincide with phase changes in life! (2) You may note that I've been giving prominence to amritamsa, kali-naasamsa etc amsas occupied by planets in D-60. They are vital in deciding the results. Don't look at the rasis and houses occupied by a planet in D-60, but also look at the amsa occupied. We have such classification not only in D-60, but in all vargas!! For example, Dr. B.V. Raman has Sun, Moon and Mars together in 11th in D-24 (chart of learning) giving Trilochana yoga (Trilochana = Shiva. This yoga makes one a fearless victor). In his case, he was a fearless campaigner of astrology. Planets in 11th have an argala on 8th (occult) and 11th is the 4th (learning) from 8th. So Sanjay taught sometime ago that planets in 11th give occult learning and aspecially astrology. However, not everyone with the same D-24 would be a fearless campaigner of a traditional subject. In Dr. Raman's case, all the three planets giving Trilochana yoga in 11th in D-24 are in Mitramsa. Mitra is the Rigvedic deity who stood for patience, tradition and pro-activity. Having Jupiter in 3rd in Parasu-Ramamsa also led to pro-active writing and spirited campaigning for astrology's cause. In all the divisional charts, we have to look at the amsa occupied (i.e. ruler) along with the rasi and house occupied. Then only we can have an accurate picture. However, this needs an understanding of a lot of Hindu philosophy. So I skipped it in my book entirely. Gauranga prabhu wrote a few thoughtful articles on this issue in Jyotish News last year. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha --------------------- Narasimha P.V.R. Rao Tel: (781) 270-4997 3 Baron Park Lane #13 email: pvr Burlington, MA 01803 email: pvr108 Homepage: http://www.vedicastrologer.org Home address will change in July/Aug, 2001 --------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2001 Report Share Posted July 8, 2001 OM GAM! Dear Narasimhaji, I had written to Shri Sanjayji long time ago regarding Shri Aurobindo, whose life is very strange and out of the ordinary. I would like to point out to a few things regarding his life. 1. Shri Aurobindo had to appear in the ICS exam due to the obligations to his father who was an Anglophile. He chose not to take the horse-riding test and consequently did not pass the exam, so he was never an ICS. He did hold a few government posts, but these were not in British India. He was a civil servant in State of Baroda, which was then a princely state. 2. He was extremely active in Indian politics before he went to prison on the morning of May 2 1908, as the British suspected him involved in the bombing and killing of 2 European ladies in Mujaffarpur. Shri Aurobindo has always denied these charges. He was kept in isolation for one year, then he spent another year in prison, but with other prisoners. He was then let go as they could not prove the charges against him. His brother Barin Ghosh was on the other hand convicted and spent years in prison. 3. I have in my possession his book "Kara-kahani" (Prison story)in Bengali, where he very humorously writes about his prison days, the style of writing is very British, with understated humour, reflecting his schooling in English Public Schools. In prison, in isolation, he was visited by a divine person, who taught him Yogic sadhana. He did not have a proper Guru. 4. He was assured by this person that his replacement had arrived (Gandhi?) and he was to leave politics for higher things. He wrote many books in Indian philoshphy and as a philosopher, people like Dr. Radhakrishnan consider him to be very original, and Rabindranath Tagore wrote a poem (Aurobindo Rabindrer laho namaskar)praising him. 5. Aurobindo claimed that India's independence on his birthday was not a coincedence. He also claimed that it was his will power that forced the German Army to retreat in 1942 (?) from Stalingrad, as he said that a victory of Hitler would bring the reign of ausuric forces for the next thousand years. I hope you find these interesting and seem them in his charts. Gautam Sarkar Get personalized email addresses from Mail http://personal.mail./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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