Guest guest Posted June 22, 2001 Report Share Posted June 22, 2001 Namaste Mahalinga, > 2. If we have a unique individual like Rajiv Gandhi (for example), > and if we assign one Nadiamsa to him (based on his birth time > and known Nadiamsa effects), then we have to assume that he > does not share that Nadiamsa with anybody. Because if he did, > then that other person with whom he shared the Nadiamsa did > not become the PM etc etc, so the Nadiamsa effects did not > manifest for that other person! Note that I am not saying that > *only* the Nadiamsa should not be shared, but that we have to > essentially assume that nobody else was born within a minute > of Rajiv Gandhi in that same place. Can we reasonably make > that assumption?? Have you taken into account the effects of the parents charts, and other family member charts on the individual? If the parets charts promise a powerful child, then they will help to lift up the child. Likewise the charts of all family members, wife, friends, etc will affect the destiny of the person. Similarily the past generations of family, local townsmen, and so on. Even the fate of the country in such cases. There are millions of factors externally influencing the chart of the owner through their own karmas. In this case, even with the same D-300, you will get differing results. The DKP distinction is neccessary keeping this in mind. There are many yogas that state that someone born of a royal family will be a king, while one born ordinary will be merely rich; which can be extrapolated to the entire chart. This is one of the reasons why. All the best, Alex J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2001 Report Share Posted June 22, 2001 Namaste Alex, > Have you taken into account the effects of the parents charts, and > other family member charts on the individual? If the parets charts > promise a powerful child, then they will help to lift up the child. The parents charts' may *indicate* a powerful child. I don't believe charts "lift up" or "pull down" anybody. In any case, can you illustrate what you are saying further? > Likewise the charts of all family members, wife, friends, etc will > affect the destiny of the person. Similarily the past generations of > family, local townsmen, and so on. Even the fate of the country in > such cases. There are millions of factors externally influencing the > chart of the owner through their own karmas. Sure. But are you suggesting I take a quick look at a random sample of local townsmen's charts? Look, I am not saying nothing other than the chart will influence the destiny of the person. My question has to do with how we are going to analyse a chart to see those influences. In my opinion, sorry - analysing the parents' or siblings' charts is not an option, it would complicate the picture further. Other list members may or may not agree with you on this... I remain, Mahalinga Iyer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2001 Report Share Posted June 22, 2001 Namaste, vedic astrology, mahalinga_iyer wrote: > Namaste Alex, > > > Have you taken into account the effects of the parents charts, and > > other family member charts on the individual? If the parets charts > > promise a powerful child, then they will help to lift up the child. > > The parents charts' may *indicate* a powerful child. I don't believe > charts "lift up" or "pull down" anybody. In any case, can you > illustrate what you are saying further? Karma in present life may lift/pull down the chart. Thats why one need to look at the horary chart along with Natal chart. Regards, V > > > Likewise the charts of all family members, wife, friends, etc will > > affect the destiny of the person. Similarily the past generations > of > > family, local townsmen, and so on. Even the fate of the country in > > such cases. There are millions of factors externally influencing > the > > chart of the owner through their own karmas. > > Sure. But are you suggesting I take a quick look at a random sample > of local townsmen's charts? > > Look, I am not saying nothing other than the chart will influence > the destiny of the person. My question has to do with how we are > going to analyse a chart to see those influences. > > In my opinion, sorry - analysing the parents' or siblings' charts > is not an option, it would complicate the picture further. Other > list members may or may not agree with you on this... > > I remain, > > Mahalinga Iyer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2001 Report Share Posted June 24, 2001 AUM SRI GURUVE NAMAH Dear Venkateswara! > Karma in present life may lift/pull down the chart. Thats why one need > to look at the horary chart along with Natal chart. > You cannot infer that one need horary chart because, the karma lifts or pulls down the chart. This is only done because the indications from the natal horoscope is not easily deciphered due to our own limitations. Taking help of prashna chart ease our effort of deciphering something. Regards Sarajit > Regards, V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2001 Report Share Posted June 25, 2001 JAYA JAGANNATHA! Namaste. > > > AUM SRI GURUVE NAMAH > Dear Venkateswara! > > > > Karma in present life may lift/pull down the chart. Thats why one need > > to look at the horary chart along with Natal chart. > > > > You cannot infer that one need horary chart because, the karma lifts or > pulls down the chart. This is only done because the indications from the > natal horoscope is not easily deciphered due to our own limitations. Taking > help of prashna chart ease our effort of deciphering something. > I think that this is a very interesting question indeed, and please allow me to throw in my two cents. This is the understanding that I have come up with, and may not necessarily be perfect, so comments are welcome. The natal chart indicates the soul's karmic situation as a result of the summary reactions of the activities coimmitted by him in his previous lives. Now coming to this lifetime he has certain situations in his karma that will manifest in the future. Dr. Raman also makes this difference in his books. But the individual goes on commuitting certain activities and making decisions in this life, which may still give some influence on the situations which are to manifest in the future. This is the principle of applying remedial measures. Therefore my understanding is that the birth chart should indicate a set of options that are in front of the individual, and according to his decisions, he will realise one aspect of them. Now to pinpoint how his decisions will go from moment to moment, the Prasha chart ios very useful. Dr. Raman said that if an event is indicated by the boirth chart, then it is caused by the karma of the previous life, and if it is indicated only in the Prasna chart, then it is caused by the karma accumulated in this life. I hope this makes sense. Yours, Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer <gauranga Phone: +36-309-140-839 Jyotish Remedies: WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET _______ Get your free @ address at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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