Reply to Sarajit - further D-1, D-10 and D-24 issues

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Namaste Sarajit,

 

 

>Sarajit: On the basis of this deterministic prediction can't be

>given about the career. However, did we take *all* the factors into

>consideration before giving the prediction.

 

 

People born in this window of time have the same D-1, D-10 and D-24.

They also have the same chara karakas. What other *astrological*

factors do you think we should consider (not D-K-P) ?

 

 

>Sarajit: What if the class itself of the paatra is known from the

>horoscope. As we know the past lives of the native can be known, why

>not the status of the family and surroundings in which the person

>has taken birth. The strength of rajayogas does show whether one

>would become the prime-minister provided the astrologer has taken

>into consideration, *all the influencing factors*. The class of the

>patra can also be known from the horoscope.

 

 

The point is, for people born in the time window I mentioned (ten

minutes), the D-1, D-3, D-9, D-10 and D-24 are the *same*. So are

the chara karakas (AK, AmK etc).

 

Are you saying that you can somehow still find the status of family

etc from the horoscope? How would you explain one of those people

being born to a film actor and another being born in a slum in that

same time window? One may be born in Mumbai's best equipped hospital,

and another at home.

 

 

> Meaning - the paatra is essentially the deciding factor. True?

 

>Sarajit: It does. However, the past status of the patra is also

>reveiled from the horoscope.

 

 

What is the "past status of the patra" ?? In this context, I

understood paatra to mean whether the person was born in an

aristocratic family, in a poor family, in a family of religious

people, in a family of academics etc.

 

If D-1, D-9, D-10 and D-24 are the same for (say) seventeen

individuals, *how* are you going to say anything specific about their

families or circumstances of birth ?? How are you going to say

something that will apply to one chart, that will not apply to the

other sixteen??

 

 

I remain,

 

 

Mahalinga Iyer

[Guest guest]

Perhaps this last bit of discrimination should be based on the prashna of

consulting the astrologer....that may be why prashna is considered the mukha

or face of astrology and held in such high regard.

 

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<mahalinga_iyer

<vedic astrology>

Friday, June 22, 2001 6:30 PM

[vedic astrology] Reply to Sarajit - further D-1, D-10 and D-24

issues

 

 

>

>

> Namaste Sarajit,

>

>

> >Sarajit: On the basis of this deterministic prediction can't be

> >given about the career. However, did we take *all* the factors into

> >consideration before giving the prediction.

>

>

> People born in this window of time have the same D-1, D-10 and D-24.

> They also have the same chara karakas. What other *astrological*

> factors do you think we should consider (not D-K-P) ?

>

>

> >Sarajit: What if the class itself of the paatra is known from the

> >horoscope. As we know the past lives of the native can be known, why

> >not the status of the family and surroundings in which the person

> >has taken birth. The strength of rajayogas does show whether one

> >would become the prime-minister provided the astrologer has taken

> >into consideration, *all the influencing factors*. The class of the

> >patra can also be known from the horoscope.

>

>

> The point is, for people born in the time window I mentioned (ten

> minutes), the D-1, D-3, D-9, D-10 and D-24 are the *same*. So are

> the chara karakas (AK, AmK etc).

>

> Are you saying that you can somehow still find the status of family

> etc from the horoscope? How would you explain one of those people

> being born to a film actor and another being born in a slum in that

> same time window? One may be born in Mumbai's best equipped hospital,

> and another at home.

>

>

> > Meaning - the paatra is essentially the deciding factor. True?

>

> >Sarajit: It does. However, the past status of the patra is also

> >reveiled from the horoscope.

>

>

> What is the "past status of the patra" ?? In this context, I

> understood paatra to mean whether the person was born in an

> aristocratic family, in a poor family, in a family of religious

> people, in a family of academics etc.

>

> If D-1, D-9, D-10 and D-24 are the same for (say) seventeen

> individuals, *how* are you going to say anything specific about their

> families or circumstances of birth ?? How are you going to say

> something that will apply to one chart, that will not apply to the

> other sixteen??

>

>

> I remain,

>

>

> Mahalinga Iyer

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> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

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[Guest guest]

AUM SRI GURUVE NAMAH

Dear Mahalinga!

 

Sorry for the delay in response. I am still pondering over the issue.....

 

After going through many times through your mail, I am yet to convince myself

that people having "the D-1, D-3, D-9, D-10 and D-24 *same*." have

significantly different status of family.

 

The status of the parents can be deciphered from the 4th and the 9th and more

precisely from the D-12 chart. If the higher harmonics of the chart are the

same, this shows not only there is similarity between the status of the family

but in many other things (such thing usually happen in case of twins) such as

family environment, education etc. etc.... But the difference in their life

patter can be explained by the differences in their higher harmonic charts or

the strength of indications.

 

The case which you have given is hypothetical and I fail to comment as I still

not convince whether such situation exist where two individual have similar

charts upto the D-24 and they have taken birth is completly different family

status /environment.

 

I have seem charts which have similar patterns (not same) in horoscopes leading

similar life, how can individuals have different life patterns when they have

same chart (not only in rasi chart but also in higher divisional charts).

 

Can you provide me some real life example where this has been possible that two

indiiduals having same D-1 to D-24 charts having completely different

lifestyles.

 

My only contention towards the notion that we can't explain everything is that,

we fail to consider all factors (which is beyond a normal mortal's capability),

this is however not a limitation with the discipline whatsoever.

 

Did you ever ponder, why the environmental (or do we call them something else)

sceintist can't predict exactly the cyclones etc... because they fail to

incorporate and analyse, all the relevent factors... however, it doesnot infer

that phycal sceinces related to thermodynamica and hydrostatics and dynamics

are wrong. Here also similar climatic condition (Temperature, Relative humidity

etc) should show similar pattern of cyclone or storm etc. but this is not

so......

 

 

Regards

Sarajit

 

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<mahalinga_iyer >

<vedic astrology>

Friday, June 22, 2001 11:00 PM

[vedic astrology] Reply to Sarajit - further D-1, D-10 and D-24 issues

> > Namaste Sarajit,> > > >Sarajit: On the basis of this deterministic

prediction can't be > >given about the career. However, did we take *all* the

factors into > >consideration before giving the prediction.> > > People born in

this window of time have the same D-1, D-10 and D-24.> They also have the same

chara karakas. What other *astrological* > factors do you think we should

consider (not D-K-P) ?> > > >Sarajit: What if the class itself of the paatra is

known from the > >horoscope. As we know the past lives of the native can be

known, why > >not the status of the family and surroundings in which the person

> >has taken birth. The strength of rajayogas does show whether one > >would

become the prime-minister provided the astrologer has taken > >into

consideration, *all the influencing factors*. The class of the > >patra can

also be known from the horoscope.> > > The point is, for people born in the

time window I mentioned (ten > minutes), the D-1, D-3, D-9, D-10 and D-24 are

the *same*. So are > the chara karakas (AK, AmK etc).> > Are you saying that

you can somehow still find the status of family > etc from the horoscope? How

would you explain one of those people > being born to a film actor and another

being born in a slum in that > same time window? One may be born in Mumbai's

best equipped hospital, > and another at home.> > > > Meaning - the paatra is

essentially the deciding factor. True?> > >Sarajit: It does. However, the past

status of the patra is also > >reveiled from the horoscope.> > > What is the

"past status of the patra" ?? In this context, I > understood paatra to mean

whether the person was born in an > aristocratic family, in a poor family, in a

family of religious > people, in a family of academics etc.> > If D-1, D-9, D-10

and D-24 are the same for (say) seventeen > individuals, *how* are you going to

say anything specific about their > families or circumstances of birth ?? How

are you going to say > something that will apply to one chart, that will not

apply to the > other sixteen??> > > I remain,> > > Mahalinga Iyer> > > > > >

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