Re:Mahalinga D1,D10,D24, Strijataka etc

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Namaste Mahalinga,

 

Have glanced through your mails. Addressing all your questions will

take lot of time, esp since I am not good at typing. Talking to you

directly would have been easier. Due to time constraints, I will

address the most important questions & briefly.

 

>We try and time death using maraka periods. Yet female life

>expectancy is lower than male life expectancy. Does Strijataka

>say anything about this?

 

1. Death is calculated likewise for both men and women by

standard astrological principles. If a woman has less life expectancy

it should be reflected in her chart. It is another matter that

judging longevity is among the toughest and weak areas for

astrologers in general. BTW women live longer on the average.

 

>If I showed an astrologer a female chart with considerable

>afflictions to the fifth house (either in D-1 or D-7), he would

>predict abortions or miscarriages. What would be the indicator if it

>were a male chart?

 

2. An affliction to the 5th house or any other affliction

reflecting child birth that leads an astrologer to conclude that that

an abortion might occur in an antardasha in a woman's chart IS

interpreted the same way in a man's chart. Both man and woman

have an

equal role though different in bringing a child forth. The union of

the sperm and ovum should ideally have concluded in child-birth. It

is as much a failure for the man's sperm as it would be for the

woman's ovum both of which represent the creative energy. In this

case the prediction would be that the partner of the man has

undergone an abortion (of course the conception being through him). I

have given such a prediction quite often successfully. Last year a

man who was doubtful about the predictive accuracy of Jyotish being

much better than Tropical astrology was totally convinced after

reading 12 points written for him about his past. But what won him

over totally was the prediction about the abortion that his partner

had undergone in Ketu's subperiod that I had pinpointed through

his

chart. Moreover this was after he had got a vasectomy done much

earlier. Needless to say the vasectomy was a failure. I don't

want to

enter a debate about fate vs freewill. Note: This argument about the

superiority of Jyotish over Tropical was not by me, but a student

who referred the man to me. I generally refrain from such comments

unless the CONTEXT demands and justifies.

 

>If this is indicated in *either* male or female charts, then the

>fact that the woman is the one who carries the baby and gives

>birth is not reflected by Vedic astrology. Is this logical?

 

I don't see why it is illogical. This is what I meant by "But

it

doesnt help much in questioning the BASIC NATURE of things, atleast

it doesnt help in gaining predictive accuracy" in a previous

mail. If

such COMMONSENSE facts are also expected to be stated and covered by

the rishis, they would have to write volumes only about such things.

It is expected that a person who studies an intricate subject like

astrology has that much commonsense atleast.

 

3. Nadi readings from "famous people" are not necessarily

(and

most often they are not)the same as the methodology of Nadiamshas.

Why Madras, I found fraudulent work even in the villge of

Vaideeshwaran koil which is in a sense the headquarters for the South

Indian Nadi readings. That these nadi readers are unscrupulous cheats

is well known. When I talk of Nadiamshas, I am talking of standard

Nadi texts like Dhruva nadi, Nava nadi etc. I am talking of authentic

texts and their METHODOLOGY of using the 300 ardhamshas, not what is

commonly known as Nadi readings where they ask you certain well laid

out questions to extract information from you which they put back to

you. I caught almost every such nadi reader on certain points and

walked away without paying. Needless to say they didn't argue

since I

gave clear answers as to why I accused them of being fraudulent.

 

>With due respect, the "clinical case history" analogy is incorrect.

>If you showed X-rays of 20 different people's knees', the qualified

>doctor would be able to say which of them has a damaged knee *from

>the X-ray*. He would not have to ask all of them whether they had

>a fall recently, how hard he fell etc *I* would be able to

>"guess" who has a damaged knee if I did enough questioning

 

 

4. I don't agree with you. When I worked in the Department of

Oral Medicine (as a dental surgeon) every single case that I or even

the Head diagnosed had the DKP factor in its own way. Depending on

whether it was a man or woman, whether he/she ate spicy food or not,

whether he/she had any habits etc, the economic background and many

such factors which we covered, we went straight to some provisional

diagnosis, of course after noting the signs and symptoms and certain

simple tests. Xrays, scanning etc are done ONLY after this

provisional diagnosis. Diagnosis is in many ways similar to

predicting. Seeing an X-ray and telling that someone's knee is

fractured is not much of a diagnosis. A nurse or even a chair-side

assistant too could do it. Real diagnosis is (like predicting) an

intricate art and science.

 

>So, whether you like it or not, if we want to get to the lowest

>resolution we can, we have to "independently" take the D-24 (in a

>sense). Reason? They all share the same D-1, so blending that into

>the analysis is only going to generalise your analysis, not make it

>more specific.

 

5. Taking independently just the D24 and expecting Jyotish or

the sages to have definite rules is not fair. I would still say it is

reductionistic because two people with DIFFERENT NATAL charts could

also have similar D-24 charts. The divisional charts are only

SECONDARY to the natal chart. So no rules can be framed about the

career or education based on JUST the divisional charts.

 

6. It is a different matter that with the CURRENT level of

understanding it is not possible to definitely predict the career

etc. Many new professions are coming up each day. Here let me make a

distinction between PRINCIPLES and INTERPRETATIONS. Principles of

Jyotish like Nine grahas and 12 rashis etc WILL NEVER change. That

the entire manifest universe comes under their significations is also

fixed. How different grahas work in different houses, signs,

nakshatras etc (generally speaking) will also be the same. How we

should interpret it is different. This changes from time to time.

Sages like Parashara gave the principles and techniques. These will

remain the guidelines. But the texts written by other sages(?) and

scholars after a particular period are more about the INTERPRETATIONS

DERIVED from the principles. These were written according to the

current DKP(social conditions etc). Combinations that could lead to

foreign travel/ stay etc were written in a negative sense. That is

because foreign travel meant loss of caste/religion etc during those

days. It was not in favour. But in today's terms it is sought

after

and deemed positive. Taking the interpretations literally would be

disastrous for today's astrologer. When you talk of Jyotish being

overridden by DKP you are not really correct because you are talking

of the interpretations. But if I had to change the PRINCIPLES of

Jyotish like the nine grahas etc then I would concede that Jyotish is

influenced by DKP. No matter how many new planets, planetoids and

asteroids are discovered Jyotish will still remain the same- The nine

grahas corresponding to the nine numbers, seven+2 colours of the

spectrum(VIBGYOR+ UV & IR) etc will remain same. The principles of

Jyotish are eternal in the sense that they don't get affected by

DKP.

 

As for KP esp Ruling planets, I will write in another mail within a

few days when I can take some time off. That one could go to even the

MINUTE in SOME cases (only in the case of short term predictions

which come true in less than 24 hours) using RP is proof of the

accuracy of astrology as well as KP. I have used it hundreds (no

exaggeration) of times successfully and even demonstrated in classes.

I will select two or three such cases (where client confidentiality

is not a problem) and show it in another mail. Till then bear with me

patiently. One last word. Even 3 years of experiencing the principles

of astrology will do more than what 600 astrologers on this list

cannot. Learn the principles. Apply them intelligently using

commonsense and/or DKP. We all have to go wrong many times. But

don't

lose faith. Hang on. With your intelligence you will soon be an

intelligent astrologer.

 

Best wishes,

Satya