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This posting is Non-Astrological. So dont crib if u have bothered to read

to the end, & say hey hey, why r u wasting my down-load tym &

nappy-changing tym & wyf-kissing-tym.

 

Just for some sympathy: I have been (& am) on leave from office (which

computer is being used) fr 2 weeks, & I am escaping nappy-changing &

wyf-kissing tym to ryt this. And it is 1 am & I have not yet had dinner, &

I have yet to go home to do so.

 

I just hope ALL of u read this. Even if it is non-astro. But IMP (the ryter

always thinx so).

 

PS Note: This was sent to another List. And since it is 1am, pl do not ask

me to edit this to rmv non-contextual matters. Else, I will ask my unnamed

daughter to do potty on yr lap at 3 am when u just cant open yr eyes

(another e-mail will follow on Naming Rules a few days later when I get

back to ofis- any suggestions?). Also, Note. Note. How i have repudiated my

responsibilities by threatening to send it b4 u all crib & yell about 1

more non-astro-posting. U'know, apart from Visti, i find v little humour on

this List, which makes me feel v gilti - evrybody suffers someone else's

humour if he lyks him). Insidentally, my daughter's brth tyming was

contryvd at 10th June 01, 9/ 48 am (+24 secs for cry, & 28 secs for cutting

umbilical cord - more relevant for C-Sec acc to Guru Rath, but against his

other rules).

 

Insidly, I hvnt thankd Nimmi for relief (brst cncr test - unresolvd, but

shall speak psnly, now there is just too much in my little mind), Sally for

advise, Visti for fundas, & informing Solai the exact tym personally except

thru this posting (i will ryt to all of u beaut ppl psnly next week), &

apologised 2 all of u for eating yr Net-tym with all this. BUT. So many

others make so many graver errors, that I xqz myself. Also, as I will not

be seeing yr complaints about this intrusion for another week of blissful

nappy-changing at home, that ... hapi cursing me (have fun).

 

OK. Enuff Levity. Will U ALL PLEASE read this in the right context:

 

"Dear all : Shhhhhh! (to me): Can i pl say this v v quietly - in the hope

that evry1 misses this posting?

 

Lots of talking is being done. Which is very good. But i deleted some

postings from the Subject heading, given the deluge - & from later refs,

realised they were v good postings. My loss. However, cd I quietly give

some suggsns to all, esp as this is a new List (have included some stories

& concepts to break the monotony, in the latter half of this 2 page long

posting): (Note this suggestion list is more germane to THIS List, for

obvious reasons as also explained below)

 

1. Subject heading: Pl tighten the heading - it helps readers delete if

uninterested, without opening the mail. Pl CHANGE the heading if u r

talking about a different topic, (write the new topic before the Re: .....)

since if u hit a reply button to send yr mail, the system obviously only

provides the earlier ref heading. If u r introducing a new slant, say so in

the hdg. Preferably, CKH the heading after completing yr messg, at the last

step just before u hit the Send button. Else poor guys like me will say

shucks one more posting on the same subject & delete the posting & miss

out. Most busy people, who are usually the most imp contributors to a List,

delete most postings from the Subject heading tey see, to retain their

sanity & be able to contribute/ learn only when they have something to

contribute/ learn.

 

2. Personal Mail, & Reply Button: Many 1-liners (not so common in

thisList), eg "hey thanks, that was a wonderful e-mail", etc are better

sent directly to the person concerned ONLY. Be very careful when U R using

the Reply button. Check once more before sending, who U R actually sending

it to (the List at large, or to the person intended). Generally speaking,

if U think it may help/ inform/ entertain atleast a few people in the List,

write; else, don't send, or send to the person concerned only.

 

3. Subjects outside the List focus: It feels nice sometimes, to send jokes,

festival & personal greetings, virus alerts & the like. Pl remember it

feels nice for the WRITER! & arguably, for a minority of the audience,

given the context of a large no of mails. Hey, I'm NOT trying to shackle

any unbounded enthu & ho tum tee tum around here. Just trying to be

practical.

 

4. 2 vital buttons : "Delete" & "Send" : There will always be times when

there is a deluge on consecutive days on subjects of little interest to a

specific person. Lists have not evolved enuff (& the moderator is usually

doing a favour by opening the Group in the first place) to have sub-Lists &

icons for every possible segment of discussions.And it is not necessary. SO

USE THE DELETE BUTTON. Dont just for that (next point). And

also, don't freak! Lots of people know U only from that e-mail, many U may

meet later in life will ONLY know U from that e-mail U wrote years back. As

a character said in the 1st para in one of Arthur Hailey's books: "isn't it

strange that every year I meet the same people at the Hiltons across the

globe". The world is very small actually. We all congregate thru life

unfortunately to the same TYPE of people who all to the same hotels &

Web-sites! For the same reason, do all members a favour & think once more

before pressing "Send". See if U can shorten the matter (I tried & failed,

in this posting).

 

5. Un: There will be times when there is a sharp divide in the

value systems among List members. You MAY want to then. If U do

so, don't irritate the List by 1 more e-mail. ANY List has the method of

unsubscribg clearly instructed in the homepage, & some, in the long footer

of every posting. And dont THREATEN to (threats bring out the

worst in others, esp in an impersonal e-format where we may never meet

personally). Do realise the value of your membership, because at a

different time, there cd be subjects of your interest, which u wd miss out

on. And, a subject of your heart, where u hv always wanted to contribute

since u were bawling in mom's arms.

 

6. NEVER be Personal : Never take names. Don't accuse. Act responsible.Use

personal e-mails for all that if U HAVE to. Discuss ONLY the issue in a

List. It is both 1) for avoiding saying things u may regret later - but

more responsibly, also 2) to avoid choking up shyer people, who may have a

lot to contribute. Can I break my own norms (of brevity), in the larger

interest of breaking the monotony of this posting: dad (D) tells son (S) to

put in a nail in the fence whenever S loses his temper. After a month, the

no of nails per day decrease. 2nd month: D tells S to remove a nail

whenever he has been irritated & NOT lost his temper, plus continuing 1st

exercise. 5 months later, there is a fence exhibition of friends & family.

There is not a single nail. But there still are many many holes!

 

This is the bane of e-mail. You can't run to the Despatch dept & ungum your

letter (the moving hand having ritn.....).

 

7. And yet, give Benefit of Doubt (esp to Moses): In a multi-disciplinary &

non-moderated List, there will be MUCH chaos of passions unleashed. I have

come to know Mu-Min for some time now. I know that he in particular SEEMS

to get personal (as he takes names, etc), but actually this is his

unbounded passion & commitment to his thought process which blinds his form

to the function. Actually, he is NOT meaning to get personal at all. That

may be also true of many many others. So if someone seems to be getting

personal, give him the benefit of doubt & ignoring your own emotional

state, reply to the content. Help yourself in the evolutionary process of

NOT letting this wave affect you (y'know, moksha is when at last no wave,

pleasure or pain, affects this wave receptor of ours, which we call our

body, which becomes soul when it stops wave receiving).

 

8. Communication (esp to Mu): I once got a job in an UNRELATED field to my

work experience, at a senior management level in Australia, when after a

gruelling 2 hrs interview there was this last question. So Nandan, what do

u think of Communication. As this was so general a question after 2 hrs of

specific questions, I was zapped for a moment. I asked: "as in Comms tech,

or human communicn?". "Whatever u want it to mean". My IMMEDIATE answer

came (MUST have been an inspirational flash from THE BEYOND): "When I say

something that the other person does not understand". There were 5 pairs of

eyeballs staring at me. I held the silence. Finally 1 of them broke the

gaze to ask me to explain. I said, if the other person understood

immediately, then it was a Direction, not Communication, an intended

monologue, not an intended dialogue. I explained further that a) we should

talk with our ears, & b) leave the door open for the other to respond to

(as at the end of these interviews, I am sure most of you will mainly

recall more of what each of u said yourself wrt each candidate, than what

each cndt said to you). Mu, u may be right, u may be wrong, but pl leave an

opening left for someone to respond. Challenge is a good technique to draw

out people & reduce the BS - BUT...... tempered with humour, or something

else (a suggestion)?

 

9. Communication & Subject matter: I hv purpsly usd some abbrevns abv 2

convey my psnl ryting fault: as I have been castigated on the unreadability

of my postings on another List. Similarly, each one has some writing

hassles. Avoid. More imp: Astrology is ONE subject where even a sceptic

sneers at your astro-advise to your face - but remembers EACH word u said -

it plays on in his mind, & affects his personality, mind, character,

intentions & life. A karmic bond has developed. Yes, one way to break it is

to ask payment for each astro-service u render. But more imp, HOW r u

saying anything at all to a client, rather than the WHAT (as mentioned

above, the How CAN affect the What too). Be careful of EACH WORD. Is it

possible to START this process in this List, to start learning to develop

ourselves, in our preparedness for giving advise to clients & responsibly

taking this karmic mantle upon ourselves? No amount of reading Jungs & Tyls

will prevent us from whacking Freuds on Jungs at each other unless we learn

to PRACTISE the process of Counselling.

 

10. More Cases: Process vs Product: Can we have more Cases where we go thru

ALL the influencing astro-units & tools we personally use (NOT all

available, of course) & explain why we are in this Case, giving more

importance to one & downplaying/ ignoring another? Basically a stress on

the process of interpreting rather than justifying the product, ie the

conclusion.

 

11. Convulsions: The List has a personality of its own. Actions of its own.

Which is influenced by, but independent of, any of us. It does depend on

its Lagna (the actual process of its Initiation, its raison-d-etre, its

intended originating Theme), the Lagna lord (the Initiator, Mu), the Arudh

Lagna (how we all learnt of its Initiation & see it manifest in this List)

& the Graha Arudh of the Lagna Lord (how Mu comes across to us as a result

of all his e-writings here). But so much more too. The List will convulse

at times, be happy at times, etc. So, dont take it all too personally on

yourself or the writer. The List is an entity by itself, not a summation of

its members, because it changes its focus/ interest every moment, affected

by the retro Mc from June 4, 2001, by the Ve tryn Ma this weekend, the

Jp-Sn cnj middle of next month & so on.

 

12. Reference Frame: In the above para, I have used concepts from Mr

Narasimha Rao's new book just released on an integrated approach to Vedic

astrology (any misinterpretation may pl be excused). So, given the

multidisciplinary nature of this List, if there is any potential confusion,

pl provide your reference frame of your personal astro-education/ style, if

not obvious right upfront.

 

Wife's last ultrasonic in 2 hrs, NST tomorrow, then tomorrow doc to see all

& decide the day of the C-section for bringing out our daughter to all of

you, as it apparently cd hv to be much before the due date (biut no real

worries, as 38 wks over tomorrow). So seeya guysngals. Must hurry

 

HugsnKisses

 

Nandan"