A2 and the 2nd house from AL (Question regarding arudhas)

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OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH

JAYA JAGANNATHA

 

Namaste Sarajit,

 

Welcome back.

 

Maya bewilders. That is why it is called Maya. It confuses us.

Let me try. Narayan uses 'measure' for this arudha. Perhaps that is good for easy understanding.

 

Natal chart is physical. What is actually available for the native in this birth.

 

Arudha is measurement. How the measurement is done is based on different

yardsticks prevailing in the society and the time (kala).

 

I got your point of confusion between Dhanam and 4th house of properties.

Strictly speaking, 2nd house is Dhanam. In olden days it meant grains and cows.

Now, it means wealth. 4th house is Sukasthanam. How a person gets Sukam or

comfort? -with his house and vehicles. So, Arudha of 2nd house is all about the

measurement of a person's total wealth including house and vehicles. Arudha of

4th house is all about the measurement of a person's Sukam or comfort derived

from all objects including house and vehicles. The world measures a person with

one Latest model Toyota corolla is more comfortable than a person with ten old

model Fiat cars. A house could have been constructed with teak wood and high

quality materials, but in old fashion. On the otherhand, if a poorly

constructed but with modern architectural designed house will be perceived by

others us comfortable house.

 

For example, in some cases a person may use others properties in the family and

the world may think that he is a wealthy man: In this case A2 & A4 may be

strong.

 

But, physically he may not have anything in his name: 2nd & 4th house from

Lagna may be weak.

 

Similarly, a person might have been having a very decent job in a multinational

bank with very nice villa and car provided by the bank. So, A2 and A4 might be

strong. But, he may be spending all his earning and may not have any savings or

properties in his name. ( I know a person he was working in a Gulf country as VP

in a travel agency he was drawing 10 years ago around $5000/- per month, he

spent all his money in travel and world tours. Everybody thought he was so

rich. All of a sudden, his company sacked him. He was not even having money to

pay for his cargoes). So, here, his 2nd and 4th house from lagna may be weak.

 

In the attached chart A4 is strong aspected by dharmakarmadhipathi yoga planets

and the dispositer is exalted :- the native is perceived as having a lot of

comforts through the properties.

 

4th from AL is not strong & also not weak. There is neutral view about his

capacity and capability to have these properties.

 

4th from lagna is afflicted by the 2 malefics:- he is not having a single

property in his name. All are in his wife's name. She is the main source of all

income. Though, he can register all the properties in his name, due to

sentiments this person buy everything in his wife's name.

 

I hope this helps, Sarajit. I request Narasimha and others to correct me.

 

Thanks

Solai Kannan

Sarajit Poddar

[sarajitp (AT) hclinsys (DOT) com]Wednesday, June 13, 2001 12:12 PMTo:

vedic astrologySubject: Re: [vedic astrology] A2 and the 2nd

house from AL (Re: Question regarding arudhas)

AUM SRI GURUVE NAMAH

Dear Narasimha and Solai!

 

After a long gap I am again joining the list. The concept of Arudha has

intrigued me a lot. I shall ask one simple question to clarify some of my

doubts. What would be the result if the A2 is well placed and 2nd from AL is

bedly placed. You say that even if the person is endowed with wealth, he is

perceived as one having less wealth. This happens when the person has deposited

his wealth in some place and the general public don't know about it. But how

does the public form their opinion. They do it by seeing whatever possession

one has, the movable or immovable property. The immovable property and vehicles

is again under the perview of 4th house.What would happen if the A4 is strong

and the 4th from AL is also strong. This would show that the person has a lot

of immovable property or a good vehicle and public has the opinion that he is

endowed with such property (strong 4th from AL). In this what can we judge....

On the one hand the world views him not endowed with wealth and on the other

hand they have opinion that he has alot of property and a good vehicle (Hence

rich).... I am bit confused.

 

Have I made the matter too complecated !!!!!

 

Pranaam

Sarajit Poddar

 

-

Solai Kannan

vedic astrology

Wednesday, June 13, 2001 12:01 PM

[vedic astrology] A2 and the 2nd house from AL (Re: Question regarding arudhas)

OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH

JAYA JAGANNATHA

 

Namaste Narasimah,

 

Indeed a very good lesson for all of us. Your previous post on A5 and this post

makes aruda clear. As you said, this maya or illusion or perceptions are not

easy to teach and one has to think on these issues repeatedly. Thanks for

giving us the lead to think.

 

Do you or any body have the chart of Mr.Narayana moorthy of Infosis? Because,

his chart may show this wealth and arudha well.

 

His wealth is based on the share prices and the world assumes that he is a very rich man - A2.

 

He is a simple man, doesn't carried away by this wealth, he has the capacity to

sustain these wealth - 2nd from Lagna.

 

Physically- His wealth can be less than what the world assumes - 2nd from AL.

 

Any other real example might help us in this way.

 

Thanks

Your sisya

Solai Kannan

pvr (AT) mediaone (DOT) net [pvr (AT) mediaone (DOT) net]Sent:

Wednesday, June 13, 2001 1:53 AMvedic astrologySubject:

[vedic astrology] A2 and the 2nd house from AL (Re: Question regarding

arudhas)Namaste,What I taught is what was passed on to me by my gurus. Though

it seems straight-forward on a casual look, a lot of tricky questions will come

to an intelligent person's mind as (s)he assimilates the knowledge! Teachings of

a guru can sow the seeds, but the plant of true knowledge blossoms in one's

heart only after the intellect works very hard on assimilation.Most of us

neglect, to our detriment, arudhas in practical analysis. This sometimes

includes me. Parasara and Jaimini gave them a lot of importance. A lot of

astrologers in my native state in India (Andhra Pradesh) do not make any

predictions until arudha chakra is prepared.I will attempt to answer your

intelligent question to the best of my ability.> My doubt is, How does

objectivity fit into this? Is it> not true that people look at the trappings of

money> (A2) to form their perceptions of some body's richness> (2nd house from

AL). Yes, ideally, world's impressions about one's sustenance resources should

be based on one's wealth, just as the world's impressions about one's

intelligence and abilities should be based on one's awards, trophies and

achievements. However, in reality, they may or may not be linked. The world may

perceive the winner of a prestigeous award (strong A5) as an undeserving person

(5th from AL weak). Similarly, the world may perceive a person with a lot of

wealth (strong A2) as one with poor sustenance/endowment (2nd from AL). After

all, one may have million dollars in the bank (strong A2), but use a simple

vehicle, wear simple dress and have an unassuming conduct. Then most people

will have an ordinary impression about how well-endowed he is. Houses from AL

show people's impressions and arudhas of the same houses show real things that

exist materially and that should, ideally, govern people's impressions.There is

another important subtle distinction to be made here. Let us step back a little

bit.What does the 2nd house from lagna show? How does it fit with my earlier

teaching that houses from lagna qualify true self and houses from AL qualify

one's image, status and material existence (i.e. existence in the perceptions

of the world)? Material existence is shown by AL and the true

individual/personality inside is shown by lagna. Can money be an

attribute/quality of that true individual wrapped inside the material

existence?No!! Money is a part of world's maya (illusion). It's a part of the

material existence.The problem is that literature lists all the results related

to 2nd house (2nd from lagna, 2nd from paka lagna, 2nd from arudha lagna, arudha

of 2nd etc) as the results of the 2nd house. We have to differentiate and use

them appropriately.Though the 2nd house is supposed to show money, it actually

shows one's sustenance when we translate things to a basic level. It shows

one's sustenance and nourishment. It shows how endowed one is. One's food,

money etc are the material manifestations of this nourishment/endowment. So the

arudha of 2nd shows them (i.e. money and food are things that exist in the

material world when it comes to one's nourishment). The 2nd from lagna shows

the nourishment and sustenance of one's true self. The 2nd from arudha lagna

shows world's impressions about the same.> Or is it that we need to look at the

links between A2> and the 2nd house from AL to comment on the> perceptions of

outside world (of the native's> richness)being Subjective or Objective. > > I

am not quiet clear on this. Could you comment,> please.I hope this brings some

clarity. But complete knowledge comes only to the one who strives for it.>

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