Guest guest Posted June 12, 2001 Report Share Posted June 12, 2001 Namaste Narasimha, A question on Arudhas: First of all your summary on arudhas (graha & bhava)is very succint. Four different perspectives of the same situation/thing, covers almost everything. My doubt is, How does objectivity fit into this? Is it not true that people look at the trappings of money (A2) to form their perceptions of some body's richness (2nd house from AL). Or is it that we need to look at the links between A2 and the 2nd house from AL to comment on the perceptions of outside world (of the native's richness)being Subjective or Objective. I am not quiet clear on this. Could you comment, please. Thanks and regards viswanadham Get personalized email addresses from Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2001 Report Share Posted June 12, 2001 Thanks for your light on the subject, I will come back to you... Franck - <jaan911 <vedic astrology> Tuesday, June 12, 2001 1:27 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Question regarding arudhas and aspects > Dear Franck > > my two cents worth : > > there is no such thing as Jaimini aspects, since Parasara defined > both rasi drishti and graha drishti in his work. > he mentions rasi drishti first, then later on graha drishti. > > from what ive been taught, think of rasi drishti as an analogy with > the chart as builidngs with windows, each sign a seperate building > with a window to peer through. thus the signs or planets positioned > in them can aspect other neighbouring signs/planets through these > windows, this is rasi drishti. > empty signs still aspect each other, and planets in those signs can > aspect due to them being posited there. like standing by your window > and seeing your neighbour in their window. > thus rasi drishti is fixed, cause the window is part of the > building/chart. > > graha drishti is the planets own aspect irrespective of where it is > posited or if there is a window to peer through. its the planets own > will to influence by aspecting a sign or another planet. this may or > may not fructify. > > thus consider rasi drishti first then look at graha drishti. graha > drishti on its own cant be used to confirm results. if there is both > rasi drishti and graha dristi then there will be results due to that > aspect. ie saturn in gemini will aspect pisces by both rasi and graha > drishti, so there will be results due to that aspect. > > for arudhas, arudha lagna is the maya/illusion associated with oneself > ( lagna). > the pada of a particular house is the maya/illusion assosiated with > that house. > the 4th 5th or nth house from arudha lagna is the maya associated > with your relationship to the house concerned. ie fourth from arudha > lagna will show your percieved (by others) relationship to mother, > vehicles, education etc.. > > ill give you an example, for me my A7 and UL ( A12) in capricorn are > in the 12th from Arudha lagna in aquarius. A7 will signify fiends, > female relationships etc, UL signifies spouse. > > its a fact that though i have many friends and closer female friends > i can sometimes neglect them or not contact them for long periods of > time, i think this is due to debilitated jupiter in A7/UL. > > alot of people say that this is a comon fault of mine, that i neglect > my friendships from time to time, or am too unpredictable with my > behaviour to them, so now there is a maya regarding my relationship > to A7 ie A7 being 12th from AL. > > so you can say due to my A7 and UL being placed in the 12th from AL > the result is that the world forms the impression that i neglect my > friends and girlfriends. > and looking at A7 directly, i can be unpredictable with friends due > to debilitated jupiters presence in A7. > so the two are seperate. > > > love > jaan > > vedic astrology, "Franck JAOTOMBO" <franck@a...> wrote: > > Dear Jyotishis, > > > > Although I am familiar with Jyotish. Certain things are new to me. > Please clarify the following points. > > > > 1- When you consider a chart, say some matter pertaining to a given > house, you have the typical graha (Parasara's) aspects on the one > hand and the typical rasi (Jaimini's) aspects on the other hand. > > Do you take them on account together or separately? If separately > when do you look at planetary aspects and when do you look at the > sign aspects? > > > > 2- Regarding arudhas. If I want to evaluate the influences on a > particular house, say the 5th. > > The influences on the 5th house shows the learning and intelligence > of the native, intrinsically. A5 shows how it is manifested in the > world. I have to check these information (as well as the karaka for > the 5th i.e Me and Ju and 5th from them) in the D-1 as well as D-24. > > But then what is the difference between A5 and 5th from A1 (AL)? > > > > With respect, > > > > Franck > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2001 Report Share Posted June 12, 2001 Dear Jaan, I understand, from your example what the effect of A7 and UL are, from AL. I also understand directly the impact of Ju debilitated in A7. However, what would be the effect of 7th from AL in your case? Franck - <jaan911 <vedic astrology> Tuesday, June 12, 2001 1:27 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Question regarding arudhas and aspects > Dear Franck > > my two cents worth : > > there is no such thing as Jaimini aspects, since Parasara defined > both rasi drishti and graha drishti in his work. > he mentions rasi drishti first, then later on graha drishti. > > from what ive been taught, think of rasi drishti as an analogy with > the chart as builidngs with windows, each sign a seperate building > with a window to peer through. thus the signs or planets positioned > in them can aspect other neighbouring signs/planets through these > windows, this is rasi drishti. > empty signs still aspect each other, and planets in those signs can > aspect due to them being posited there. like standing by your window > and seeing your neighbour in their window. > thus rasi drishti is fixed, cause the window is part of the > building/chart. > > graha drishti is the planets own aspect irrespective of where it is > posited or if there is a window to peer through. its the planets own > will to influence by aspecting a sign or another planet. this may or > may not fructify. > > thus consider rasi drishti first then look at graha drishti. graha > drishti on its own cant be used to confirm results. if there is both > rasi drishti and graha dristi then there will be results due to that > aspect. ie saturn in gemini will aspect pisces by both rasi and graha > drishti, so there will be results due to that aspect. > > for arudhas, arudha lagna is the maya/illusion associated with oneself > ( lagna). > the pada of a particular house is the maya/illusion assosiated with > that house. > the 4th 5th or nth house from arudha lagna is the maya associated > with your relationship to the house concerned. ie fourth from arudha > lagna will show your percieved (by others) relationship to mother, > vehicles, education etc.. > > ill give you an example, for me my A7 and UL ( A12) in capricorn are > in the 12th from Arudha lagna in aquarius. A7 will signify fiends, > female relationships etc, UL signifies spouse. > > its a fact that though i have many friends and closer female friends > i can sometimes neglect them or not contact them for long periods of > time, i think this is due to debilitated jupiter in A7/UL. > > alot of people say that this is a comon fault of mine, that i neglect > my friendships from time to time, or am too unpredictable with my > behaviour to them, so now there is a maya regarding my relationship > to A7 ie A7 being 12th from AL. > > so you can say due to my A7 and UL being placed in the 12th from AL > the result is that the world forms the impression that i neglect my > friends and girlfriends. > and looking at A7 directly, i can be unpredictable with friends due > to debilitated jupiters presence in A7. > so the two are seperate. > > > love > jaan > > vedic astrology, "Franck JAOTOMBO" <franck@a...> wrote: > > Dear Jyotishis, > > > > Although I am familiar with Jyotish. Certain things are new to me. > Please clarify the following points. > > > > 1- When you consider a chart, say some matter pertaining to a given > house, you have the typical graha (Parasara's) aspects on the one > hand and the typical rasi (Jaimini's) aspects on the other hand. > > Do you take them on account together or separately? If separately > when do you look at planetary aspects and when do you look at the > sign aspects? > > > > 2- Regarding arudhas. If I want to evaluate the influences on a > particular house, say the 5th. > > The influences on the 5th house shows the learning and intelligence > of the native, intrinsically. A5 shows how it is manifested in the > world. I have to check these information (as well as the karaka for > the 5th i.e Me and Ju and 5th from them) in the D-1 as well as D-24. > > But then what is the difference between A5 and 5th from A1 (AL)? > > > > With respect, > > > > Franck > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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