Guest guest Posted June 5, 2001 Report Share Posted June 5, 2001 JAYA JAGANNATHA! Dear Jay, Namaste. > > Dear Jyotishi, > > I would like to raise a question and a discussion to follow, on a > subject which I am sure pops-up frequently in many minds: Collective > death. > > Often we hear about events that cause the death of a GROUP of people > who are gathered at the same location at the same time occasionally > without any personal connection between them (in this life) beside the > actual event itself. As example we can point at plane crashes, > collective traffic accidents, nature disasters or even as lately during > a wedding calibration where a floor collapsed (due to faulty > construction) and 25 people died. > > There are two classes of issues here: > 1) A nature related disaster where no human has any control over > the event and > 2) Human negligence or lack of responsibility (example: a > pilot/skipper error or human built machinery fault, or as above, > construction defects). > In some cases there is also the question if this person becoms a > murderer ? > > I assume that a common dominator for the cause of death and timing is > unlikely to be found in all the charts involved (take the Estonia > ferry who sank off the Swedish coast several years ago with over 1000 > lives lost, equal over 1000 charts etc.). > > How can we explain this through Jyotish ? It would be good to see a case study of course, but even from the theoretical viewpoint, I think that all the 1000 charts for sure would indicste danger or death for that period, and above that, there should be water-related death indicated. As you may know, it is much easuier to explain events in retrospective than to foretell them. On the other hand, you could also use a mundane chart of the ship, airplane, building etc. for such disasters or monthly/yearly new moon chart for the vicinity of the disaster for natural catastrophey like earthquake, cyclone etc. Narasimha had demonstrated an example of earthquake chart earlier on this list. Besides that the fact of group death should also bbe indicated in the chartso of the suffering natives. Yours, Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer <gauranga Phone: +36-309-140-839 Jyotish Remedies: WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET _______ Get your free @ address at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2001 Report Share Posted June 7, 2001 Dear Gauranga Das, The basic issue that I was speculating with here is the possible karmic connection that might exist in such cases - among all involved. It is nearly impossible to perform a project on such cases due to lack of information nor can we expect anyone from the 'other side' to appear and provide us with some relevant information ... I guess that a long-term research/study on smaller groups (where birth details can be found) may provide a hint. However in my opinion, the question remains open. Kind regards Jay > JAYA JAGANNATHA! > > Dear Jay, > > Namaste. > > > > > > Dear Jyotishi, > > > > I would like to raise a question and a discussion to follow, on a > > subject which I am sure pops-up frequently in many minds: Collective > > death. > > > > Often we hear about events that cause the death of a GROUP of people > > who are gathered at the same location at the same time occasionally > > without any personal connection between them (in this life) beside the > > actual event itself. As example we can point at plane crashes, > > collective traffic accidents, nature disasters or even as lately during > > a wedding calibration where a floor collapsed (due to faulty > > construction) and 25 people died. > > > > There are two classes of issues here: > > 1) A nature related disaster where no human has any control over > > the event and > > 2) Human negligence or lack of responsibility (example: a > > pilot/skipper error or human built machinery fault, or as above, > > construction defects). > > In some cases there is also the question if this person becoms a > > murderer ? > > > > I assume that a common dominator for the cause of death and timing is > > unlikely to be found in all the charts involved (take the Estonia > > ferry who sank off the Swedish coast several years ago with over 1000 > > lives lost, equal over 1000 charts etc.). > > > > How can we explain this through Jyotish ? > > It would be good to see a case study of course, but even from the > theoretical viewpoint, I think that all the 1000 charts for sure would > indicste danger or death for that period, and above that, there should be > water-related death indicated. As you may know, it is much easuier to > explain events in retrospective than to foretell them. On the other hand, > you could also use a mundane chart of the ship, airplane, building etc. for > such disasters or monthly/yearly new moon chart for the vicinity of the > disaster for natural catastrophey like earthquake, cyclone etc. Narasimha > had demonstrated an example of earthquake chart earlier on this list. > Besides that the fact of group death should also bbe indicated in the > chartso of the suffering natives. > > Yours, > > Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer > <gauranga@b...> > Phone: +36-309-140-839 > Jyotish Remedies: > WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET > > > > > > _______ > > Get your free @ address at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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