Guest guest Posted May 30, 2001 Report Share Posted May 30, 2001 My dear Narayan, I am glad that you remembered graha arudhas. However, your thinking is not completely accurate. Rasis and houses show the environmental influences, while planets show people. For example, some people think that the 9th house shows father. But, in reality, 9th house shows guidance and protection received (from father) and not the father. Father is shown by the 9th lord (a planet). Similarly, people are shown by planets. Arudha means "risen one". It shows how different things rise (manifest) in the world. Bhava arudhas show how the matters of a bhava (house) rise materially. For example, the 5th house shows intelligence, skills and abilities. They live inside one and cannot be seen by the outside world. They rise materially as one's scores, awards and prizes (and the outside world can see THEM). So, that's what A5 (arudha of 5th house) shows. Similarly, graha arudhas show how grahas (planets - people) rise/manifest in the material world. Planets represents persons, but people cannot see what's inside a person and what exactly a person is. They perceive based on how a person comes across. Grahas show true persons and graha arudhas show how persons come across. Let us say Sun is the 9th lord in a chart. The position of Sun and influence on lagna shows the true nature of father and his influence on the native. But the arudha of Sun shows how father's influence is perceived by son (and perhaps others). The 9th lord (a planet) shows how father truly is and his graha arudha shows how father manifests in this world (i.e. perceived in the world). *Graha* arudha of 9th lord shows how father is perceived (OTOH, *bhava* arudha of 9th house shows how guidance and protection of father is perceived). So the graha arudha of a planet showing father would show son's perception of father. What Vijay asked is the reverse. He asked how to see in a native's chart how the native's father perceives him/her. Lagna lord shows native. His graha arudha shows how the native manifests and how (s)he is perceived. The 9th lord shows father. Judge the position of lagna lord's graha arudha with respect to the 9th lord to see how father perceives the native. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha > Om Jaya Jagannatha > > Dear Vijay & Visti, > > Pitri Pada will show how the world percieves Father. > > In my opinion, the chara karaka one should look at is the PitriKaraka, and then take its Arudha. > > As Narasimha stated that Chara Karakas indicate the role people play in our sustainanece. PitriKaraka will show the role father plays in our sustainance. > > Now, he also mentioned that a planets arudha, shows the persons maya/perception. > > Thus putting the 2 together, the arudha of PitriKaraka in D12 will show the fathers impression of the native. > > Regards > -Narayan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2001 Report Share Posted May 31, 2001 Dear brother, Thank you for elaborating on the philosophy. I would try to use this principle. Please correct me if I go out of track. The birth details are: December 1, 1975 Time: 5:34:00 Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Longitude: 79 E 58' 00" Latitude: 14 N 26' 00" (I am attaching the .jhd file). +----------------------+ | (Guru) | Keth | | (Kuja) | | | | | | | | AKuja | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | |(Sani) | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-------------| R A S I |-------------| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | |Ravi Budha | Rahu | Sukra | | |Lagna | Chandra | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | +----------------------+ Kuja takes ownership of Lagna. His arudha is AKuja in Aries. Lord of 9th is Chandra. AKuja is in 7th from Chandra. Lord of Aries, Kuja is in 9th. Aries is occupied by Kethu. His father would think about him to be friendly, and perhaps righteous. +----------------------+ | Chandra | | |(Sani) (Guru)| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| |Sukra | |Rahu | | | |(Kuja) | | ARavi | | | | | | | | | | | |-------------| D - 1 0 |-------------| |Kethu | |Lagna | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| |Budha |Ravi | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | +----------------------+ Lord of lagna is Ravi. Arudha of Ravi (ARavi) is in Aq. Lord of 9th is Kuja and he is in Cn. ARavi is in 8th. Lord of ARavi is in 12th. His father would not be satisfied by his profession. His father would think that he would be strugling in job and perhaps as a spendthrift. But Aq is occupied by 4th and 11th lord Sukra. His father would think the native wants to do a job on wheels pertaining arts/business (of selling some art pieces etc). But his father would not be liking that idea. Best regards, Vijay. pvr (AT) mediaone (DOT) net wrote: My dear Narayan, I am glad that you remembered graha arudhas. However, your thinking is not completely accurate. Rasis and houses show the environmental influences, while planets show people. For example, some people think that the 9th house shows father. But, in reality, 9th house shows guidance and protection received (from father) and not the father. Father is shown by the 9th lord (a planet). Similarly, people are shown by planets. Arudha means "risen one". It shows how different things rise (manifest) in the world. Bhava arudhas show how the matters of a bhava (house) rise materially. For example, the 5th house shows intelligence, skills and abilities. They live inside one and cannot be seen by the outside world. They rise materially as one's scores, awards and prizes (and the outside world can see THEM). So, that's what A5 (arudha of 5th house) shows. Similarly, graha arudhas show how grahas (planets - people) rise/manifest in the material world. Planets represents persons, but people cannot see what's inside a person and what exactly a person is. They perceive based on how a person comes across. Grahas show true persons and graha arudhas show how persons come across. Let us say Sun is the 9th lord in a chart. The position of Sun and influence on lagna shows the true nature of father and his influence on the native. But the arudha of Sun shows how father's influence is perceived by son (and perhaps others). The 9th lord (a planet) shows how father truly is and his graha arudha shows how father manifests in this world (i.e. perceived in the world). *Graha* arudha of 9th lord shows how father is perceived (OTOH, *bhava* arudha of 9th house shows how guidance and protection of father is perceived). So the graha arudha of a planet showing father would show son's perception of father. What Vijay asked is the reverse. He asked how to see in a native's chart how the native's father perceives him/her. Lagna lord shows native. His graha arudha shows how the native manifests and how (s)he is perceived. The 9th lord shows father. Judge the position of lagna lord's graha arudha with respect to the 9th lord to see how father perceives the native. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha > Om Jaya Jagannatha > > Dear Vijay & Visti, > > Pitri Pada will show how the world percieves Father. > > In my opinion, the chara karaka one should look at is the PitriKaraka, and then take its Arudha. > > As Narasimha stated that Chara Karakas indicate the role people play in our sustainanece. PitriKaraka will show the role father plays in our sustainance. > > Now, he also mentioned that a planets arudha, shows the persons maya/perception. > > Thus putting the 2 together, the arudha of PitriKaraka in D12 will show the fathers impression of the native. > > Regards > -Narayan || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Terms of Service. Attachment: (image/gif) C:\TEMP\nsmail51.gif [not stored] Attachment: (image/gif) C:\TEMP\nsmailGT.gif [not stored] Attachment: (application/x-unknown-content-type-JHora.Document) eg1.jhd [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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