Guest guest Posted April 21, 2006 Report Share Posted April 21, 2006 Tarun, Thanks! When strong claims are made it is good to know about other variables that may modulate the issue. I suppose, the next thing will be for you to post some examples with full data and events etc. that prove that your ayanamsha is the only one that works! You are on the PERFECT forum with thousands of individuals interested in jyotish, even if most are the introvert type but there is a smattering of individuals who have messed around with astrology and jyotish for some time and could be meaningful in terms of endorsement. Please post some (five?) examples of why your ayanamsha is superior to the rest, the two that come to mind are Lahiri and Raman because many sung and unsung heros of modern jyotish have hitched their wagon to those two or a value close enough. Your value is almost median between the sidereal and tropical and hence I want to listen to your proof and empirical (observed) evidence! All ears now, hundreds if not all thousands of us!! RR , "Tarun Chopra" <occultwizard.tarun wrote: > > Dear RR > Yes Goravani software suport parallax-correction i use it off instead of on > and i use 365 days in a year > > Tarun Chopra > naastrology/ > www.occultwizard.com > > > On 4/20/06, crystal pages <jyotish_vani wrote: > > > > Tarun, > > > > Does Goravani still support parallax-corrected position of moon? Do > > you use the geotopical (drig -- sort of) parallax corrected moon or > > geocentric moon. > > > > Also I believe you use 365 day year, right? > > > > > > RR > > , "Tarun Chopra" > > <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote: > > > > > > I use Goravani astrology software for calculatation of charts > > > www.goravani.com > > > > > > Tarun Chopra > > > > > > On 4/19/06, rishi shukla <rishi_2000in@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Tarunji, > > > > Thanks for your response. There are two issues here, > > > > 1) That you are getting consistent results in > > > > horscopes using this ayanamsha, that states your > > > > personal experience and good for you. > > > > 2) The values you are discussing, now the date 1 Jan, > > > > 1155, I assume is a Julian date and not based on > > > > Gregorian calender. Secondly, you are assuming a > > > > linear progression of the ayanamsha with a value of > > > > 50.279 seconds since the inception of ayanamsha. > > > > Thirdly, the values in degrees, minutes and > > > > seconds...are you using swiss ephemeris using decimal > > > > places or are you using a particular software for it. > > > > An ayanamsha cannot merely begin on a particular date > > > > if a particular software displays a perfect match. > > > > Would like to know more of these points,thanks > > > > > > > > regards > > > > rishi > > > > > > > > --- Tarun Chopra <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Rishi > > > > > > > > > > ok consider the today's date as the starting point > > > > > so the two zodiacs are > > > > > similar today if we assume this. Now calculate any > > > > > chart of century say date > > > > > 01-01-1800 or 01-01-1900 you will get the ayanamsha > > > > > value 00-00-00 which is > > > > > same as tropical one, so there will be no difference > > > > > between tropical or > > > > > sidereal zodiac. Now we have to find a year a long > > > > > back when the two zodiacs > > > > > were similar, lahiri gave the date 22/03/0285 check > > > > > at that time does both > > > > > zodiacs were similar see the difference in planetary > > > > > position check with all > > > > > others ayanamsha with their starting date you will > > > > > not find the similar > > > > > planetary position. Now if you try with my ayanamsha > > > > > you will find exact not > > > > > even a second difference. > > > > > > > > > > Ok do it differently now calculate the charts from > > > > > Tarun Chopra Ayanamsha > > > > > and when you get any event check what dasha is going > > > > > on at that time. You > > > > > will find that on that day only the dasha has > > > > > changed there will be so > > > > > perfect that event hour will also match now this > > > > > never happens with any > > > > > other ayanamsha. > > > > > > > > > > Don't follow any ayanamsha research on it you will > > > > > find that Tarun Chopra > > > > > Ayanamsha goes too perfect in timing of the events > > > > > and if you study the > > > > > horoscopes you will find the life will reflect from > > > > > Tarun Chopra Ayanamsha > > > > > > > > > > and you know lots of people who are good at > > > > > astrology has tried my ayanamsha > > > > > and they are getting perfect results which they did > > > > > not got from any other > > > > > ayanamsha. > > > > > > > > > > With regards > > > > > > > > > > Tarun Chopra > > > > > www.occultwizard.com > > > > > > > > > > Join for right astrology and right horoscope > > > > > divinelight/ > > > > > > > > > > On 4/19/06, rishi shukla <rishi_2000in@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Tarunji, > > > > > > It shall be interesting to know why is your > > > > > ayanamsha > > > > > > correct. I have gone through the web pages on yuor > > > > > > site, you basically say that the coinciding point > > > > > of > > > > > > sayana planets and the nirayana should be the > > > > > same. > > > > > > Why then not start from today, why from jan 1, > > > > > 1100 or > > > > > > whatever date you have suggested. > > > > > > regards > > > > > > rishi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Tarun Chopra <occultwizard.tarun@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrology is based on Sidereal Zodiac and > > > > > > > sidereal zodiac basic > > > > > > > foundation is Ayanamsha if the Ayanamsha is not > > > > > > > correct then the Horoscope > > > > > > > is also not correct. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you still using wrong Ayanamsha to calculate > > > > > the > > > > > > > horoscopes? To get the > > > > > > > right Horoscope and to get the right results > > > > > from > > > > > > > Astrology, you are welcome > > > > > > > to join this Group of Astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tarun Chopra > > > > > > > www.occultwizard.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you are not interested in joining the group > > > > > just > > > > > > > ignore this invitation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 4/19/06, jyotish <jyotish.bh@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes Rishi > > > > > > > > You are correct. > > > > > > > > WE need to evolve ayanamsha that is > > > > > compatible > > > > > > > to different S/W today > > > > > > > > available. > > > > > > > > Lahiri, Raman, are being used by almost all > > > > > > > including JH, Kundli... > > > > > > > > JH 7.0 gives option of different Ayanamsha > > > > > and > > > > > > > these results are quite > > > > > > > > close to each other. > > > > > > > > One can't appreciate other Ayanamsha if the > > > > > same > > > > > > > does not fit into. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Rps > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > rishi_2000in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, April 19, 2006 10:05 AM > > > > > > > > Re: Bhava Charts Vs Rashi > > > > > charts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pratap, > > > > > > > > Ayanamsha has been a contentious issue > > > > > amongst > > > > > > > most learned of the > > > > > > > > astrologers too.Mostly , the ayanamsha named > > > > > as > > > > > > > Chitrapaksha or > > > > > > > > Lahiri ayanamsha is followed which was > > > > > approved > > > > > > > by the Indian > > > > > > > > Government as a part of Rashtriya Panchang. > > > > > > > There are several other > > > > > > > > ayanamshas too including the Raman ayanamsha > > > > > > > quite commonly used. > > > > > > > > Most of these are within plus minus 3 > > > > > degress of > > > > > > > the Lahiri value. > > > > > > > > Tarun Chopra claims an ayanamsa 12 degrees > > > > > away > > > > > > > from Lahiri. > > > > > > > > It is again a personal experience of his. > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > rishi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > Kaneria > > > > > > > > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am also a student following your > > > > > > > discussions about bhav all > > > > > > > > day. If you allow me to pose a new > > > > > question... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have come across just recently a new > > > > > > > ayamansa proposed by > > > > > > > > Tarun Chopra who claims with some proof that > > > > > his > > > > > > > ayamansa is most > > > > > > > > accurate compared to the one's in use in > > > > > present > > > > > > > time. Everyone > > > > > > > > knows, that accurate predictions depends on > > > > > > > precise horoscope and > > > > > > > > dasa calculations. If you investigate, you > > > > > will > > > > > > > find that Chopra's > > > > > > > > ayamansa produces significantly different > > > > > charts > > > > > > > and dasas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Has anyone on this list investigated > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > Chopra's proposal ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rishi_2000in <rishi_2000in@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Actually, I digressed, I am glad that > > > > > Surya > > > > > > > speaks from his > > > > > > > > experiences. > > > > > > > > > Your reply about spherical trigonometry > > > > > made > > > > > > > me look at another > > > > > > > > point > > > > > > > > > which has been there in the back of my > > > > > mind. > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? 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Guest guest Posted April 21, 2006 Report Share Posted April 21, 2006 I have given few example on naastrology group you can join the group naastrology/ and the best thing will be to put on your own charts or other charts you know and see if it works or not best wishes Tarun Chopra On 4/22/06, crystal pages <jyotish_vani wrote: > > Tarun, > > Thanks! > > When strong claims are made it is good to know about other variables > that may modulate the issue. > > I suppose, the next thing will be for you to post some examples with > full data and events etc. that prove that your ayanamsha is the only > one that works! > > You are on the PERFECT forum with thousands of individuals interested > in jyotish, even if most are the introvert type but there is a > smattering of individuals who have messed around with astrology and > jyotish for some time and could be meaningful in terms of endorsement. > > Please post some (five?) examples of why your ayanamsha is superior > to the rest, the two that come to mind are Lahiri and Raman because > many sung and unsung heros of modern jyotish have hitched their wagon > to those two or a value close enough. > > Your value is almost median between the sidereal and tropical and > hence I want to listen to your proof and empirical (observed) > evidence! > > All ears now, hundreds if not all thousands of us!! > > RR > > , "Tarun Chopra" > <occultwizard.tarun wrote: > > > > Dear RR > > Yes Goravani software suport parallax-correction i use it off > instead of on > > and i use 365 days in a year > > > > Tarun Chopra > > naastrology/ > > www.occultwizard.com > > > > > > On 4/20/06, crystal pages <jyotish_vani wrote: > > > > > > Tarun, > > > > > > Does Goravani still support parallax-corrected position of moon? > Do > > > you use the geotopical (drig -- sort of) parallax corrected moon > or > > > geocentric moon. > > > > > > Also I believe you use 365 day year, right? > > > > > > > > > RR > > > , "Tarun Chopra" > > > <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I use Goravani astrology software for calculatation of charts > > > > www.goravani.com > > > > > > > > Tarun Chopra > > > > > > > > On 4/19/06, rishi shukla <rishi_2000in@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Tarunji, > > > > > Thanks for your response. There are two issues here, > > > > > 1) That you are getting consistent results in > > > > > horscopes using this ayanamsha, that states your > > > > > personal experience and good for you. > > > > > 2) The values you are discussing, now the date 1 Jan, > > > > > 1155, I assume is a Julian date and not based on > > > > > Gregorian calender. Secondly, you are assuming a > > > > > linear progression of the ayanamsha with a value of > > > > > 50.279 seconds since the inception of ayanamsha. > > > > > Thirdly, the values in degrees, minutes and > > > > > seconds...are you using swiss ephemeris using decimal > > > > > places or are you using a particular software for it. > > > > > An ayanamsha cannot merely begin on a particular date > > > > > if a particular software displays a perfect match. > > > > > Would like to know more of these points,thanks > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > rishi > > > > > > > > > > --- Tarun Chopra <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rishi > > > > > > > > > > > > ok consider the today's date as the starting point > > > > > > so the two zodiacs are > > > > > > similar today if we assume this. Now calculate any > > > > > > chart of century say date > > > > > > 01-01-1800 or 01-01-1900 you will get the ayanamsha > > > > > > value 00-00-00 which is > > > > > > same as tropical one, so there will be no difference > > > > > > between tropical or > > > > > > sidereal zodiac. Now we have to find a year a long > > > > > > back when the two zodiacs > > > > > > were similar, lahiri gave the date 22/03/0285 check > > > > > > at that time does both > > > > > > zodiacs were similar see the difference in planetary > > > > > > position check with all > > > > > > others ayanamsha with their starting date you will > > > > > > not find the similar > > > > > > planetary position. Now if you try with my ayanamsha > > > > > > you will find exact not > > > > > > even a second difference. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok do it differently now calculate the charts from > > > > > > Tarun Chopra Ayanamsha > > > > > > and when you get any event check what dasha is going > > > > > > on at that time. You > > > > > > will find that on that day only the dasha has > > > > > > changed there will be so > > > > > > perfect that event hour will also match now this > > > > > > never happens with any > > > > > > other ayanamsha. > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't follow any ayanamsha research on it you will > > > > > > find that Tarun Chopra > > > > > > Ayanamsha goes too perfect in timing of the events > > > > > > and if you study the > > > > > > horoscopes you will find the life will reflect from > > > > > > Tarun Chopra Ayanamsha > > > > > > > > > > > > and you know lots of people who are good at > > > > > > astrology has tried my ayanamsha > > > > > > and they are getting perfect results which they did > > > > > > not got from any other > > > > > > ayanamsha. > > > > > > > > > > > > With regards > > > > > > > > > > > > Tarun Chopra > > > > > > www.occultwizard.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Join for right astrology and right horoscope > > > > > > divinelight/ > > > > > > > > > > > > On 4/19/06, rishi shukla <rishi_2000in@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tarunji, > > > > > > > It shall be interesting to know why is your > > > > > > ayanamsha > > > > > > > correct. I have gone through the web pages on yuor > > > > > > > site, you basically say that the coinciding point > > > > > > of > > > > > > > sayana planets and the nirayana should be the > > > > > > same. > > > > > > > Why then not start from today, why from jan 1, > > > > > > 1100 or > > > > > > > whatever date you have suggested. > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > rishi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Tarun Chopra <occultwizard.tarun@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrology is based on Sidereal Zodiac and > > > > > > > > sidereal zodiac basic > > > > > > > > foundation is Ayanamsha if the Ayanamsha is not > > > > > > > > correct then the Horoscope > > > > > > > > is also not correct. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you still using wrong Ayanamsha to calculate > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > horoscopes? To get the > > > > > > > > right Horoscope and to get the right results > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > Astrology, you are welcome > > > > > > > > to join this Group of Astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tarun Chopra > > > > > > > > www.occultwizard.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you are not interested in joining the group > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > ignore this invitation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 4/19/06, jyotish <jyotish.bh@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes Rishi > > > > > > > > > You are correct. > > > > > > > > > WE need to evolve ayanamsha that is > > > > > > compatible > > > > > > > > to different S/W today > > > > > > > > > available. > > > > > > > > > Lahiri, Raman, are being used by almost all > > > > > > > > including JH, Kundli... > > > > > > > > > JH 7.0 gives option of different Ayanamsha > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > these results are quite > > > > > > > > > close to each other. > > > > > > > > > One can't appreciate other Ayanamsha if the > > > > > > same > > > > > > > > does not fit into. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > Rps > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > rishi_2000in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, April 19, 2006 10:05 AM > > > > > > > > > Re: Bhava Charts Vs Rashi > > > > > > charts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pratap, > > > > > > > > > Ayanamsha has been a contentious issue > > > > > > amongst > > > > > > > > most learned of the > > > > > > > > > astrologers too.Mostly , the ayanamsha named > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > Chitrapaksha or > > > > > > > > > Lahiri ayanamsha is followed which was > > > > > > approved > > > > > > > > by the Indian > > > > > > > > > Government as a part of Rashtriya Panchang. > > > > > > > > There are several other > > > > > > > > > ayanamshas too including the Raman ayanamsha > > > > > > > > quite commonly used. > > > > > > > > > Most of these are within plus minus 3 > > > > > > degress of > > > > > > > > the Lahiri value. > > > > > > > > > Tarun Chopra claims an ayanamsa 12 degrees > > > > > > away > > > > > > > > from Lahiri. > > > > > > > > > It is again a personal experience of his. > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > rishi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > Kaneria > > > > > > > > > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am also a student following your > > > > > > > > discussions about bhav all > > > > > > > > > day. If you allow me to pose a new > > > > > > question... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have come across just recently a new > > > > > > > > ayamansa proposed by > > > > > > > > > Tarun Chopra who claims with some proof that > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > ayamansa is most > > > > > > > > > accurate compared to the one's in use in > > > > > > present > > > > > > > > time. Everyone > > > > > > > > > knows, that accurate predictions depends on > > > > > > > > precise horoscope and > > > > > > > > > dasa calculations. If you investigate, you > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > find that Chopra's > > > > > > > > > ayamansa produces significantly different > > > > > > charts > > > > > > > > and dasas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Has anyone on this list investigated > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > Chopra's proposal ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rishi_2000in <rishi_2000in@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Actually, I digressed, I am glad that > > > > > > Surya > > > > > > > > speaks from his > > > > > > > > > experiences. > > > > > > > > > > Your reply about spherical trigonometry > > > > > > made > > > > > > > > me look at another > > > > > > > > > point > > > > > > > > > > which has been there in the back of my > > > > > > mind. > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? 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Guest guest Posted April 21, 2006 Report Share Posted April 21, 2006 Tarun, I do not want to join yet another group! This is a large enough group, probably larger than the one you are recommending! You have a new ayanamsha to recommend. Why create yet another GROUP? Why not this group boasting a few thousand or jyotish afficionodos? We are waiting and listening -- here, all thousands of us LEARNERS!! RR , "Tarun Chopra" <occultwizard.tarun wrote: > > I have given few example on naastrology group you can join the group > naastrology/ > > and the best thing will be to put on your own charts or other charts you > know and see if it works or not > > best wishes > > Tarun Chopra > > > On 4/22/06, crystal pages <jyotish_vani wrote: > > > > Tarun, > > > > Thanks! > > > > When strong claims are made it is good to know about other variables > > that may modulate the issue. > > > > I suppose, the next thing will be for you to post some examples with > > full data and events etc. that prove that your ayanamsha is the only > > one that works! > > > > You are on the PERFECT forum with thousands of individuals interested > > in jyotish, even if most are the introvert type but there is a > > smattering of individuals who have messed around with astrology and > > jyotish for some time and could be meaningful in terms of endorsement. > > > > Please post some (five?) examples of why your ayanamsha is superior > > to the rest, the two that come to mind are Lahiri and Raman because > > many sung and unsung heros of modern jyotish have hitched their wagon > > to those two or a value close enough. > > > > Your value is almost median between the sidereal and tropical and > > hence I want to listen to your proof and empirical (observed) > > evidence! > > > > All ears now, hundreds if not all thousands of us!! > > > > RR > > > > , "Tarun Chopra" > > <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear RR > > > Yes Goravani software suport parallax-correction i use it off > > instead of on > > > and i use 365 days in a year > > > > > > Tarun Chopra > > > naastrology/ > > > www.occultwizard.com > > > > > > > > > On 4/20/06, crystal pages <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Tarun, > > > > > > > > Does Goravani still support parallax-corrected position of moon? > > Do > > > > you use the geotopical (drig -- sort of) parallax corrected moon > > or > > > > geocentric moon. > > > > > > > > Also I believe you use 365 day year, right? > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > , "Tarun Chopra" > > > > <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I use Goravani astrology software for calculatation of charts > > > > > www.goravani.com > > > > > > > > > > Tarun Chopra > > > > > > > > > > On 4/19/06, rishi shukla <rishi_2000in@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Tarunji, > > > > > > Thanks for your response. There are two issues here, > > > > > > 1) That you are getting consistent results in > > > > > > horscopes using this ayanamsha, that states your > > > > > > personal experience and good for you. > > > > > > 2) The values you are discussing, now the date 1 Jan, > > > > > > 1155, I assume is a Julian date and not based on > > > > > > Gregorian calender. Secondly, you are assuming a > > > > > > linear progression of the ayanamsha with a value of > > > > > > 50.279 seconds since the inception of ayanamsha. > > > > > > Thirdly, the values in degrees, minutes and > > > > > > seconds...are you using swiss ephemeris using decimal > > > > > > places or are you using a particular software for it. > > > > > > An ayanamsha cannot merely begin on a particular date > > > > > > if a particular software displays a perfect match. > > > > > > Would like to know more of these points,thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > rishi > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Tarun Chopra <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rishi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ok consider the today's date as the starting point > > > > > > > so the two zodiacs are > > > > > > > similar today if we assume this. Now calculate any > > > > > > > chart of century say date > > > > > > > 01-01-1800 or 01-01-1900 you will get the ayanamsha > > > > > > > value 00-00-00 which is > > > > > > > same as tropical one, so there will be no difference > > > > > > > between tropical or > > > > > > > sidereal zodiac. Now we have to find a year a long > > > > > > > back when the two zodiacs > > > > > > > were similar, lahiri gave the date 22/03/0285 check > > > > > > > at that time does both > > > > > > > zodiacs were similar see the difference in planetary > > > > > > > position check with all > > > > > > > others ayanamsha with their starting date you will > > > > > > > not find the similar > > > > > > > planetary position. Now if you try with my ayanamsha > > > > > > > you will find exact not > > > > > > > even a second difference. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok do it differently now calculate the charts from > > > > > > > Tarun Chopra Ayanamsha > > > > > > > and when you get any event check what dasha is going > > > > > > > on at that time. You > > > > > > > will find that on that day only the dasha has > > > > > > > changed there will be so > > > > > > > perfect that event hour will also match now this > > > > > > > never happens with any > > > > > > > other ayanamsha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't follow any ayanamsha research on it you will > > > > > > > find that Tarun Chopra > > > > > > > Ayanamsha goes too perfect in timing of the events > > > > > > > and if you study the > > > > > > > horoscopes you will find the life will reflect from > > > > > > > Tarun Chopra Ayanamsha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and you know lots of people who are good at > > > > > > > astrology has tried my ayanamsha > > > > > > > and they are getting perfect results which they did > > > > > > > not got from any other > > > > > > > ayanamsha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tarun Chopra > > > > > > > www.occultwizard.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Join for right astrology and right horoscope > > > > > > > divinelight/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 4/19/06, rishi shukla <rishi_2000in@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tarunji, > > > > > > > > It shall be interesting to know why is your > > > > > > > ayanamsha > > > > > > > > correct. I have gone through the web pages on yuor > > > > > > > > site, you basically say that the coinciding point > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > sayana planets and the nirayana should be the > > > > > > > same. > > > > > > > > Why then not start from today, why from jan 1, > > > > > > > 1100 or > > > > > > > > whatever date you have suggested. > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > rishi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Tarun Chopra <occultwizard.tarun@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrology is based on Sidereal Zodiac and > > > > > > > > > sidereal zodiac basic > > > > > > > > > foundation is Ayanamsha if the Ayanamsha is not > > > > > > > > > correct then the Horoscope > > > > > > > > > is also not correct. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you still using wrong Ayanamsha to calculate > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > horoscopes? To get the > > > > > > > > > right Horoscope and to get the right results > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > Astrology, you are welcome > > > > > > > > > to join this Group of Astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tarun Chopra > > > > > > > > > www.occultwizard.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you are not interested in joining the group > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > ignore this invitation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 4/19/06, jyotish <jyotish.bh@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes Rishi > > > > > > > > > > You are correct. > > > > > > > > > > WE need to evolve ayanamsha that is > > > > > > > compatible > > > > > > > > > to different S/W today > > > > > > > > > > available. > > > > > > > > > > Lahiri, Raman, are being used by almost all > > > > > > > > > including JH, Kundli... > > > > > > > > > > JH 7.0 gives option of different Ayanamsha > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > these results are quite > > > > > > > > > > close to each other. > > > > > > > > > > One can't appreciate other Ayanamsha if the > > > > > > > same > > > > > > > > > does not fit into. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Rps > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > rishi_2000in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, April 19, 2006 10:05 AM > > > > > > > > > > Re: Bhava Charts Vs Rashi > > > > > > > charts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pratap, > > > > > > > > > > Ayanamsha has been a contentious issue > > > > > > > amongst > > > > > > > > > most learned of the > > > > > > > > > > astrologers too.Mostly , the ayanamsha named > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > Chitrapaksha or > > > > > > > > > > Lahiri ayanamsha is followed which was > > > > > > > approved > > > > > > > > > by the Indian > > > > > > > > > > Government as a part of Rashtriya Panchang. > > > > > > > > > There are several other > > > > > > > > > > ayanamshas too including the Raman ayanamsha > > > > > > > > > quite commonly used. > > > > > > > > > > Most of these are within plus minus 3 > > > > > > > degress of > > > > > > > > > the Lahiri value. > > > > > > > > > > Tarun Chopra claims an ayanamsa 12 degrees > > > > > > > away > > > > > > > > > from Lahiri. > > > > > > > > > > It is again a personal experience of his. > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > rishi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > Kaneria > > > > > > > > > > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am also a student following your > > > > > > > > > discussions about bhav all > > > > > > > > > > day. If you allow me to pose a new > > > > > > > question... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have come across just recently a new > > > > > > > > > ayamansa proposed by > > > > > > > > > > Tarun Chopra who claims with some proof that > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > ayamansa is most > > > > > > > > > > accurate compared to the one's in use in > > > > > > > present > > > > > > > > > time. Everyone > > > > > > > > > > knows, that accurate predictions depends on > > > > > > > > > precise horoscope and > > > > > > > > > > dasa calculations. If you investigate, you > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > find that Chopra's > > > > > > > > > > ayamansa produces significantly different > > > > > > > charts > > > > > > > > > and dasas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Has anyone on this list investigated > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > Chopra's proposal ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rishi_2000in <rishi_2000in@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Actually, I digressed, I am glad that > > > > > > > Surya > > > > > > > > > speaks from his > > > > > > > > > > experiences. > > > > > > > > > > > Your reply about spherical trigonometry > > > > > > > made > > > > > > > > > me look at another > > > > > > > > > > point > > > > > > > > > > > which has been there in the back of my > > > > > > > mind. > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? 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Guest guest Posted April 21, 2006 Report Share Posted April 21, 2006 if you have a keen intrest in astrology you will difinately join any group of astrology. On 4/22/06, crystal pages <jyotish_vani wrote: > > Tarun, > > I do not want to join yet another group! > > This is a large enough group, probably larger than the one you are > recommending! > > You have a new ayanamsha to recommend. > > Why create yet another GROUP? Why not this group boasting a few > thousand or jyotish afficionodos? > > We are waiting and listening -- here, all thousands of us LEARNERS!! > > > RR > > > , "Tarun Chopra" > <occultwizard.tarun wrote: > > > > I have given few example on naastrology group you can join the group > > naastrology/ > > > > and the best thing will be to put on your own charts or other > charts you > > know and see if it works or not > > > > best wishes > > > > Tarun Chopra > > > > > > On 4/22/06, crystal pages <jyotish_vani wrote: > > > > > > Tarun, > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > When strong claims are made it is good to know about other > variables > > > that may modulate the issue. > > > > > > I suppose, the next thing will be for you to post some examples > with > > > full data and events etc. that prove that your ayanamsha is the > only > > > one that works! > > > > > > You are on the PERFECT forum with thousands of individuals > interested > > > in jyotish, even if most are the introvert type but there is a > > > smattering of individuals who have messed around with astrology > and > > > jyotish for some time and could be meaningful in terms of > endorsement. > > > > > > Please post some (five?) examples of why your ayanamsha is > superior > > > to the rest, the two that come to mind are Lahiri and Raman > because > > > many sung and unsung heros of modern jyotish have hitched their > wagon > > > to those two or a value close enough. > > > > > > Your value is almost median between the sidereal and tropical and > > > hence I want to listen to your proof and empirical (observed) > > > evidence! > > > > > > All ears now, hundreds if not all thousands of us!! > > > > > > RR > > > > > > , "Tarun Chopra" > > > <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear RR > > > > Yes Goravani software suport parallax-correction i use it off > > > instead of on > > > > and i use 365 days in a year > > > > > > > > Tarun Chopra > > > > naastrology/ > > > > www.occultwizard.com > > > > > > > > > > > > On 4/20/06, crystal pages <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Tarun, > > > > > > > > > > Does Goravani still support parallax-corrected position of > moon? > > > Do > > > > > you use the geotopical (drig -- sort of) parallax corrected > moon > > > or > > > > > geocentric moon. > > > > > > > > > > Also I believe you use 365 day year, right? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > , "Tarun Chopra" > > > > > <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I use Goravani astrology software for calculatation of > charts > > > > > > www.goravani.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Tarun Chopra > > > > > > > > > > > > On 4/19/06, rishi shukla <rishi_2000in@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tarunji, > > > > > > > Thanks for your response. There are two issues here, > > > > > > > 1) That you are getting consistent results in > > > > > > > horscopes using this ayanamsha, that states your > > > > > > > personal experience and good for you. > > > > > > > 2) The values you are discussing, now the date 1 Jan, > > > > > > > 1155, I assume is a Julian date and not based on > > > > > > > Gregorian calender. Secondly, you are assuming a > > > > > > > linear progression of the ayanamsha with a value of > > > > > > > 50.279 seconds since the inception of ayanamsha. > > > > > > > Thirdly, the values in degrees, minutes and > > > > > > > seconds...are you using swiss ephemeris using decimal > > > > > > > places or are you using a particular software for it. > > > > > > > An ayanamsha cannot merely begin on a particular date > > > > > > > if a particular software displays a perfect match. > > > > > > > Would like to know more of these points,thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > rishi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Tarun Chopra <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rishi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ok consider the today's date as the starting point > > > > > > > > so the two zodiacs are > > > > > > > > similar today if we assume this. Now calculate any > > > > > > > > chart of century say date > > > > > > > > 01-01-1800 or 01-01-1900 you will get the ayanamsha > > > > > > > > value 00-00-00 which is > > > > > > > > same as tropical one, so there will be no difference > > > > > > > > between tropical or > > > > > > > > sidereal zodiac. Now we have to find a year a long > > > > > > > > back when the two zodiacs > > > > > > > > were similar, lahiri gave the date 22/03/0285 check > > > > > > > > at that time does both > > > > > > > > zodiacs were similar see the difference in planetary > > > > > > > > position check with all > > > > > > > > others ayanamsha with their starting date you will > > > > > > > > not find the similar > > > > > > > > planetary position. Now if you try with my ayanamsha > > > > > > > > you will find exact not > > > > > > > > even a second difference. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok do it differently now calculate the charts from > > > > > > > > Tarun Chopra Ayanamsha > > > > > > > > and when you get any event check what dasha is going > > > > > > > > on at that time. You > > > > > > > > will find that on that day only the dasha has > > > > > > > > changed there will be so > > > > > > > > perfect that event hour will also match now this > > > > > > > > never happens with any > > > > > > > > other ayanamsha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't follow any ayanamsha research on it you will > > > > > > > > find that Tarun Chopra > > > > > > > > Ayanamsha goes too perfect in timing of the events > > > > > > > > and if you study the > > > > > > > > horoscopes you will find the life will reflect from > > > > > > > > Tarun Chopra Ayanamsha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and you know lots of people who are good at > > > > > > > > astrology has tried my ayanamsha > > > > > > > > and they are getting perfect results which they did > > > > > > > > not got from any other > > > > > > > > ayanamsha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tarun Chopra > > > > > > > > www.occultwizard.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Join for right astrology and right horoscope > > > > > > > > divinelight/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 4/19/06, rishi shukla <rishi_2000in@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tarunji, > > > > > > > > > It shall be interesting to know why is your > > > > > > > > ayanamsha > > > > > > > > > correct. I have gone through the web pages on yuor > > > > > > > > > site, you basically say that the coinciding point > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > sayana planets and the nirayana should be the > > > > > > > > same. > > > > > > > > > Why then not start from today, why from jan 1, > > > > > > > > 1100 or > > > > > > > > > whatever date you have suggested. > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > rishi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Tarun Chopra <occultwizard.tarun@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrology is based on Sidereal Zodiac and > > > > > > > > > > sidereal zodiac basic > > > > > > > > > > foundation is Ayanamsha if the Ayanamsha is not > > > > > > > > > > correct then the Horoscope > > > > > > > > > > is also not correct. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you still using wrong Ayanamsha to calculate > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > horoscopes? To get the > > > > > > > > > > right Horoscope and to get the right results > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > Astrology, you are welcome > > > > > > > > > > to join this Group of Astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tarun Chopra > > > > > > > > > > www.occultwizard.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you are not interested in joining the group > > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > > ignore this invitation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 4/19/06, jyotish <jyotish.bh@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes Rishi > > > > > > > > > > > You are correct. > > > > > > > > > > > WE need to evolve ayanamsha that is > > > > > > > > compatible > > > > > > > > > > to different S/W today > > > > > > > > > > > available. > > > > > > > > > > > Lahiri, Raman, are being used by almost all > > > > > > > > > > including JH, Kundli... > > > > > > > > > > > JH 7.0 gives option of different Ayanamsha > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > these results are quite > > > > > > > > > > > close to each other. > > > > > > > > > > > One can't appreciate other Ayanamsha if the > > > > > > > > same > > > > > > > > > > does not fit into. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > Rps > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > rishi_2000in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, April 19, 2006 10:05 AM > > > > > > > > > > > Re: Bhava Charts Vs Rashi > > > > > > > > charts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pratap, > > > > > > > > > > > Ayanamsha has been a contentious issue > > > > > > > > amongst > > > > > > > > > > most learned of the > > > > > > > > > > > astrologers too.Mostly , the ayanamsha named > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > Chitrapaksha or > > > > > > > > > > > Lahiri ayanamsha is followed which was > > > > > > > > approved > > > > > > > > > > by the Indian > > > > > > > > > > > Government as a part of Rashtriya Panchang. > > > > > > > > > > There are several other > > > > > > > > > > > ayanamshas too including the Raman ayanamsha > > > > > > > > > > quite commonly used. > > > > > > > > > > > Most of these are within plus minus 3 > > > > > > > > degress of > > > > > > > > > > the Lahiri value. > > > > > > > > > > > Tarun Chopra claims an ayanamsa 12 degrees > > > > > > > > away > > > > > > > > > > from Lahiri. > > > > > > > > > > > It is again a personal experience of his. > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > > rishi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > > Kaneria > > > > > > > > > > > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am also a student following your > > > > > > > > > > discussions about bhav all > > > > > > > > > > > day. If you allow me to pose a new > > > > > > > > question... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have come across just recently a new > > > > > > > > > > ayamansa proposed by > > > > > > > > > > > Tarun Chopra who claims with some proof that > > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > > ayamansa is most > > > > > > > > > > > accurate compared to the one's in use in > > > > > > > > present > > > > > > > > > > time. Everyone > > > > > > > > > > > knows, that accurate predictions depends on > > > > > > > > > > precise horoscope and > > > > > > > > > > > dasa calculations. If you investigate, you > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > find that Chopra's > > > > > > > > > > > ayamansa produces significantly different > > > > > > > > charts > > > > > > > > > > and dasas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Has anyone on this list investigated > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > Chopra's proposal ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rishi_2000in <rishi_2000in@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually, I digressed, I am glad that > > > > > > > > Surya > > > > > > > > > > speaks from his > > > > > > > > > > > experiences. > > > > > > > > > > > > Your reply about spherical trigonometry > > > > > > > > made > > > > > > > > > > me look at another > > > > > > > > > > > point > > > > > > > > > > > > which has been there in the back of my > > > > > > > > mind. > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? 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