Sacrifice of Wealth is the only Way 16/4 what u sow u reap!-1 corection

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Dear Rishi, Nalini

 

As i remember the quote it is

Dhobhi ka kutta na ghar ka ya ghat ka

 

meaning it is not useful for him and the ghat as it can't carry the load, and

at home is barking all the while a nuiscance.

 

but a Gadha is the one which takes the load.

 

so nalino's correction was right.

 

in any case me and Nalini are not Hindi based but understand Hindi

an equivalent TELUGU SAYING which we both and a few here like pt arjun,

Krishan Srinivas, Surya can also quote is

 

Gaddi metta deggra kukka

that is a dog at the haystalk, it doesn't eat or allows others [who are meant

to eat it] to eat.

 

rishi_2000in <rishi_2000in wrote: You were right the first

time, naliniji, the dhobi has more use of a

gadha and gadha it is!

 

 

, "auromirra19"

<nalini2818 wrote:

>

>

> oops!!! That should read Dhobhi ka Kutta not gadha!!

> Sorry for the error.

> Nalini

> , "auromirra19"

> <nalini2818@> wrote:

> >

> > {Om Namo Narayanaya}

> >

> > Dear sri Suryaji,

> > If you could go back a few posts you would find that is what all

> of

> > them have been saying. Do your duty without attachment, having

> eyes

> > on the goal.

> > It is not devising paths or quoting scriptures? What if the path

> is

> > easy, as long as it is along the path of dharma, would the path

> > being easy take away the knowledge of the goal attained.

> > Krishna in Bhagavad Gita, has preached, to go after the goal,

> doing

> > your duty selflessly, without aspiring for the fruits.

> > Or do you believe that it is not possible to remain within a

> family

> > yet remain unattached. Would that mean that everybody renounce

the

> > family and take sanyas? so that they can pine away to glory as

not

> > all of them would not be ready to embrace sanyas, making him/her

> > Dhobhi ka ghadha na ghar ka na ghat ka.I think you would have

> heard

> > of the Annamacharya kriti, where he says the Lord is what you see

> > him as, to the alpa bhudhi he is alpa, to the ghana bhudhi he is

> > ghana. To the saivites he is Shiva, to the Sakteyas he is Shakthi

> > rupa, he is the Adi Bhairava to the kapalikas, for he is

> ultimately

> > the Paratatvam.

> > Meera reached the lord by living in his glory, surdas though

blind

> > saw shyam dance , Sakkubai attained the Pandarinatha, did they

all

> > traverse the single path laid by a satguru?Or have they not

really

> > achieved Oneness with the Supreme?

> > Kabir das, best summarised the analogy, the world being a loom

and

> > the threads being the Maya, a wise man would find the meaning in

> the

> > attach-detach of the loom, which can be applied to life- do your

> > duty and remain unattached.

> > Rgds

> > Nalini

> > (om Namah Shivaya Mallikarjunaya}

> >

> > , "surya" <dattapr2000@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Everybody is divising their own path saying that there are many

> > ways

> > > to reach the Lord. This path generally will be: enjoy the world

> in

> > > family bonds and at the time of death, get the Moksha or

> > liberation.

> > > Everybody aspires the highest fruit through the easiest way.

The

> > > easiest way is the path of knowledge, which does not require

any

> > > sacrifice. The highest fruit is to become the very Lord right

> now

> > > from this moment onwards. The path that pleases the Lord was

> > already

> > > preached by Krishna in Gita. Nobody is neither interested to

> know

> > > what was preached by Krishna nor ready to identify & learn from

> > the

> > > preaching of a Satguru. It is a sheer illusion to conclude that

> > our

> > > path is true based on our 'the little knowledge'.

> > >

> > > Gita says `Eka Bhakthih Vishishyate' which means that the

person

> > > having only one bond with the Lord alone is liberated. The

> > > liberation itself means destruction of all the bonds in this

> > world.

> > > Without full liberation, one cannot have a strong bond with the

> > > Lord. Unless one is completely relieved from the world, one

> cannot

> > > join God. The joining report in the new institution is not

> > possible

> > > without complete relief from the previous institution. You

> cannot

> > > partially join the new institution. It cannot be a side

> > employment.

> > > Ofcourse such partial bond can be treated as the intermediate

> > stage

> > > and is better than no bond. But the aim should not be such

> partial

> > > bond. If you aim at 100 marks, you may get 40 marks and pass.

> But

> > if

> > > you aim at 40 marks only, you will fail. Therefore, let the aim

> be

> > > total liberation from the world and single bond with the God.

> > >

> > > The bond consists of three parts. The service in terms of

> > sacrifice

> > > of work and fruit of work comprises ninety-nine paise. Love

with

> > > mind consists of 2/3rd paise. Remembering through words

consists

> > of

> > > 1/3rd paise. If you take the case of Sankara, he has donated

the

> > > whole rupee to the Lord. His love for his mother, words to

> praise

> > > mother and service to mother are diverted towards the Lord. He

> > left

> > > his mother for the sake of the Lord. He has donated all the one

> > > hundred paise to the Lord. He is the top most beloved of the

> Lord.

> > > He should be our aim. In the beginning stage you cannot divert

> > your

> > > work, which is called duty and mental attachment, which is

> called

> > > love to the Lord. At least make a humble beginning by donating

> the

> > > words to the Lord. Go on reading spiritual books and go on

> > chanting

> > > his songs. By this you have donated 1/3rd paise to the Lord.

> > > Remember that you cannot purchase any item from any shop with

> > 1/3rd

> > > paise. Therefore, do not aspire any thing in return from the

> Lord,

> > > for this 1/3rd paise. In the next stage you try to divert your

> > mind

> > > towards the Lord, which is 2/3rd paise.

> > >

> > > Do your duties to your family members, but without mental

> > > attachment. Such mental detachment has several added

advantages.

> > If

> > > one is mentally detached from the family members, he will not

be

> > > hurt if they insult him in future. He will not be disturbed

when

> > > their behaviour is not correct. He will not suffer if death

> > attacks

> > > them. Such mental detachment brings full peace and balance of

> > mind.

> > > Due to this he will be always energetic with good health.

> > Therefore

> > > such mental detachment is needed even for an atheist. The

> detached

> > > mind cannot keep silent because it is habituated to the

> > attachment.

> > > Therefore, attach the mind to the Lord. Such attachment will

> > always

> > > give infinite bliss in the life. When you are successful in

> > > attaching the mind to the Lord, you are called as devotee. But

a

> > > devotee can be disturbed. The devotion becomes firm if his

> > > intelligence takes a firm decision through knowledge.

Therefore,

> > > Knowledge gives firm decision to the intelligence (Buddhi) and

> > this

> > > makes the devotion of mind (Manas) to be firm. Therefore, Gita

> > > started with Buddhi Yoga or Jnana Yoga in the second chapter.

> > >

> > > When the mind is fixed on the Lord with the help of the

> knowledge

> > of

> > > the intelligence, the work will naturally change and will

follow

> > the

> > > mind. The mind is like the king. The words are like his

> ministers.

> > > The intelligence is like his preacher or Guru. The work is like

> > his

> > > army. Therefore, with the help of the words the mind should be

> > > diverted to the Lord and it is fixed with the help of the

> > > intelligence. The words divert the mind, whereas the

> intelligence

> > > fixes the mind. Therefore, when you have donated words and mind

> to

> > > the Lord and when you are strengthened by the spiritual

> knowledge

> > > your duties and responsibilities, which form the work, will

> > > naturally be diverted towards the Lord. The work is always

inert

> > > item and is controlled by the mind and intelligence.

> > >

> > > at the lotus feet of shri datta swami

> > > surya

> > > www.universal-spirituality.org

> > >

> > > "auromirra19" <nalini2818@> wrote:

> > > Is that not what the Supreme intends for us , to reach him in

> > > our own way, in our own time.Why impose that this is the only

> way

> > > to reach God and that every otherway does not take you there.

> > > Here we are hearing of the only ways to attain the Supreme?

Like

> > > you said,Why not leave it and find a way of coming together to

> > find

> > > a unified way of finding the true spirit of Hinduism and play

> our

> > > part in restoring its Glory.

> > > > Nalini

> > >

> >

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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You are right Prashantji as was Naliniji, we were talking of the Lord

being the Dhobi and all of us being His gadhas.

Idiomatically in the bhakti of Kabeer and others such analogies have

been used and accepted,

regards

rishi

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> Dear Rishi, Nalini

>

> As i remember the quote it is

> Dhobhi ka kutta na ghar ka ya ghat ka

>

> meaning it is not useful for him and the ghat as it can't carry

the load, and at home is barking all the while a nuiscance.

>

> but a Gadha is the one which takes the load.

>

> so nalino's correction was right.

>

> in any case me and Nalini are not Hindi based but understand Hindi

> an equivalent TELUGU SAYING which we both and a few here like pt

arjun, Krishan Srinivas, Surya can also quote is

>

> Gaddi metta deggra kukka

> that is a dog at the haystalk, it doesn't eat or allows others

[who are meant to eat it] to eat.

>

> rishi_2000in <rishi_2000in wrote: You were right the

first time, naliniji, the dhobi has more use of a

> gadha and gadha it is!

>

>

> , "auromirra19"

> <nalini2818@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > oops!!! That should read Dhobhi ka Kutta not gadha!!

> > Sorry for the error.

> > Nalini

> > , "auromirra19"

> > <nalini2818@> wrote:

> > >

> > > {Om Namo Narayanaya}

> > >

> > > Dear sri Suryaji,

> > > If you could go back a few posts you would find that is what

all

> > of

> > > them have been saying. Do your duty without attachment,

having

> > eyes

> > > on the goal.

> > > It is not devising paths or quoting scriptures? What if the

path

> > is

> > > easy, as long as it is along the path of dharma, would the

path

> > > being easy take away the knowledge of the goal attained.

> > > Krishna in Bhagavad Gita, has preached, to go after the goal,

> > doing

> > > your duty selflessly, without aspiring for the fruits.

> > > Or do you believe that it is not possible to remain within a

> > family

> > > yet remain unattached. Would that mean that everybody

renounce

> the

> > > family and take sanyas? so that they can pine away to glory

as

> not

> > > all of them would not be ready to embrace sanyas, making

him/her

> > > Dhobhi ka ghadha na ghar ka na ghat ka.I think you would have

> > heard

> > > of the Annamacharya kriti, where he says the Lord is what you

see

> > > him as, to the alpa bhudhi he is alpa, to the ghana bhudhi he

is

> > > ghana. To the saivites he is Shiva, to the Sakteyas he is

Shakthi

> > > rupa, he is the Adi Bhairava to the kapalikas, for he is

> > ultimately

> > > the Paratatvam.

> > > Meera reached the lord by living in his glory, surdas though

> blind

> > > saw shyam dance , Sakkubai attained the Pandarinatha, did

they

> all

> > > traverse the single path laid by a satguru?Or have they not

> really

> > > achieved Oneness with the Supreme?

> > > Kabir das, best summarised the analogy, the world being a

loom

> and

> > > the threads being the Maya, a wise man would find the meaning

in

> > the

> > > attach-detach of the loom, which can be applied to life- do

your

> > > duty and remain unattached.

> > > Rgds

> > > Nalini

> > > (om Namah Shivaya Mallikarjunaya}

> > >

> > > , "surya"

<dattapr2000@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Everybody is divising their own path saying that there are

many

> > > ways

> > > > to reach the Lord. This path generally will be: enjoy the

world

> > in

> > > > family bonds and at the time of death, get the Moksha or

> > > liberation.

> > > > Everybody aspires the highest fruit through the easiest

way.

> The

> > > > easiest way is the path of knowledge, which does not

require

> any

> > > > sacrifice. The highest fruit is to become the very Lord

right

> > now

> > > > from this moment onwards. The path that pleases the Lord

was

> > > already

> > > > preached by Krishna in Gita. Nobody is neither interested

to

> > know

> > > > what was preached by Krishna nor ready to identify & learn

from

> > > the

> > > > preaching of a Satguru. It is a sheer illusion to conclude

that

> > > our

> > > > path is true based on our 'the little knowledge'.

> > > >

> > > > Gita says `Eka Bhakthih Vishishyate' which means that the

> person

> > > > having only one bond with the Lord alone is liberated. The

> > > > liberation itself means destruction of all the bonds in

this

> > > world.

> > > > Without full liberation, one cannot have a strong bond with

the

> > > > Lord. Unless one is completely relieved from the world, one

> > cannot

> > > > join God. The joining report in the new institution is not

> > > possible

> > > > without complete relief from the previous institution. You

> > cannot

> > > > partially join the new institution. It cannot be a side

> > > employment.

> > > > Ofcourse such partial bond can be treated as the

intermediate

> > > stage

> > > > and is better than no bond. But the aim should not be such

> > partial

> > > > bond. If you aim at 100 marks, you may get 40 marks and

pass.

> > But

> > > if

> > > > you aim at 40 marks only, you will fail. Therefore, let the

aim

> > be

> > > > total liberation from the world and single bond with the

God.

> > > >

> > > > The bond consists of three parts. The service in terms of

> > > sacrifice

> > > > of work and fruit of work comprises ninety-nine paise. Love

> with

> > > > mind consists of 2/3rd paise. Remembering through words

> consists

> > > of

> > > > 1/3rd paise. If you take the case of Sankara, he has

donated

> the

> > > > whole rupee to the Lord. His love for his mother, words to

> > praise

> > > > mother and service to mother are diverted towards the Lord.

He

> > > left

> > > > his mother for the sake of the Lord. He has donated all the

one

> > > > hundred paise to the Lord. He is the top most beloved of

the

> > Lord.

> > > > He should be our aim. In the beginning stage you cannot

divert

> > > your

> > > > work, which is called duty and mental attachment, which is

> > called

> > > > love to the Lord. At least make a humble beginning by

donating

> > the

> > > > words to the Lord. Go on reading spiritual books and go on

> > > chanting

> > > > his songs. By this you have donated 1/3rd paise to the

Lord.

> > > > Remember that you cannot purchase any item from any shop

with

> > > 1/3rd

> > > > paise. Therefore, do not aspire any thing in return from

the

> > Lord,

> > > > for this 1/3rd paise. In the next stage you try to divert

your

> > > mind

> > > > towards the Lord, which is 2/3rd paise.

> > > >

> > > > Do your duties to your family members, but without mental

> > > > attachment. Such mental detachment has several added

> advantages.

> > > If

> > > > one is mentally detached from the family members, he will

not

> be

> > > > hurt if they insult him in future. He will not be disturbed

> when

> > > > their behaviour is not correct. He will not suffer if death

> > > attacks

> > > > them. Such mental detachment brings full peace and balance

of

> > > mind.

> > > > Due to this he will be always energetic with good health.

> > > Therefore

> > > > such mental detachment is needed even for an atheist. The

> > detached

> > > > mind cannot keep silent because it is habituated to the

> > > attachment.

> > > > Therefore, attach the mind to the Lord. Such attachment

will

> > > always

> > > > give infinite bliss in the life. When you are successful in

> > > > attaching the mind to the Lord, you are called as devotee.

But

> a

> > > > devotee can be disturbed. The devotion becomes firm if his

> > > > intelligence takes a firm decision through knowledge.

> Therefore,

> > > > Knowledge gives firm decision to the intelligence (Buddhi)

and

> > > this

> > > > makes the devotion of mind (Manas) to be firm. Therefore,

Gita

> > > > started with Buddhi Yoga or Jnana Yoga in the second

chapter.

> > > >

> > > > When the mind is fixed on the Lord with the help of the

> > knowledge

> > > of

> > > > the intelligence, the work will naturally change and will

> follow

> > > the

> > > > mind. The mind is like the king. The words are like his

> > ministers.

> > > > The intelligence is like his preacher or Guru. The work is

like

> > > his

> > > > army. Therefore, with the help of the words the mind should

be

> > > > diverted to the Lord and it is fixed with the help of the

> > > > intelligence. The words divert the mind, whereas the

> > intelligence

> > > > fixes the mind. Therefore, when you have donated words and

mind

> > to

> > > > the Lord and when you are strengthened by the spiritual

> > knowledge

> > > > your duties and responsibilities, which form the work, will

> > > > naturally be diverted towards the Lord. The work is always

> inert

> > > > item and is controlled by the mind and intelligence.

> > > >

> > > > at the lotus feet of shri datta swami

> > > > surya

> > > > www.universal-spirituality.org

> > > >

> > > > "auromirra19" <nalini2818@> wrote:

> > > > Is that not what the Supreme intends for us , to reach him

in

> > > > our own way, in our own time.Why impose that this is the

only

> > way

> > > > to reach God and that every otherway does not take you

there.

> > > > Here we are hearing of the only ways to attain the Supreme?

> Like

> > > > you said,Why not leave it and find a way of coming

together to

> > > find

> > > > a unified way of finding the true spirit of Hinduism and

play

> > our

> > > > part in restoring its Glory.

> > > > > Nalini

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND

RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

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