Sacrifice of Wealth is the only Way 16/4 what u sow u reap!-2 agrreed Nalini

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Dear Nalini,

 

Hindism as such is mosaic or stream of thinking as most of know only the

monolith religion who wanted to brand the non Hindus, Muslims gave us the name

else Sanatana Dharma has shaivasm, Vaishnism, Shaktism and over 33 crore

deities.

 

Well this vedic heritage mixed religion with science as we can neither see

god or atomic particles, in both the cases the seeker needs to have special

skills, and AIDS to see them.

 

just as the myth atom was the smallest particle was broken and other sub

atomic elements emerge the diverse deities too who are but atomic break ups

will be rediscovered by scinece in future. as Swami Vivekakanda said science

will prove what religion always said.

 

there were some curruption, distortions in some interpretations but Vedic

scriptures had more in them than we can imagine and some effort is needed to

study them again for a few generations.

 

ABOUT THE HELP YOU SAID THIS IS A FACT

IN SOUTH, TN, AP, KARNATAK earlier Kerala

 

that there is massive conversion already in place it may surprise you all

thatr AP is 45% converted not offical figure of 14% as most maintian Hindu

names still.

 

My sister had a few maids who did the same to her, she had them to baby sit

and go with her for shopping, temples etc the maids never entered temples and

REFUSED TO EAT FOOD GIVEN TO THEM (these are fresh food as they ate not left

overs) as they object to any food that was offered to our Gods is blasmpmous

to them.these maids initially when employed could be Hindu miday were

converted. only men are still caught in Ayappa cult, children, women are mostly

converted. travel by any transport talk to a few you can see the facts

yourself.

 

THE LAND THAT PRODUCED THINKERS LIKE RAJA RAM MOHAN ROY, VIDYASAGAR,

DAYANANDA SARASWATI, SRI RAMAKRISHNA PARAHAMSA, SWAMI VIVEKANAND, AUROBINOD is

destroyed by just a single mercenery. who came to Calcutta as part of the main

missionay but set up a benami front `missions of charity' which cared only for

the numbers converted that was possible only by caring for the dying not

living. her Nobel prize speach or wikepida referece is well balanced good and

bad please read it

we know the apparent good thigns but not ther eacl pictue of the good itself

and not aware of the -ve things

Mother Teresa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

Bishop Desmond Tuto, of South africa or Karamchand Gandhi then in S. africa

were great men, in oppressive regimes achieved much for the suffering masses.

 

there is a good Bishop in delhi who cared for the street children gave them

education, health, a status in life who are not talked about.even if he

convrted it doesnt' matter as he has done something useful. in giving shape to

their lives

 

similarly I had pointed the life of Karachi's Abdul Sattar Edhi (a poor man

himself but has grown n as a missionary has no personal wealth or even clothing

is like Mahatma Gandhi's) who has done a lot more purely on humanatrian fronts

whom we need to respect irrespective of our faith his contribution in last 30

years deserves a Nobel prize, his work in Oct 8 quake in PoK us also huge.

 

Please see the total picture when readers comment I am not religiously biased

as there are good people whomwe have to rightly identify in all faiths that is

all.

 

prashant

 

auromirra19 <nalini2818 wrote: {Om Namo Narayanaya}

Dear Prashantji,

What You say makes sense. Hinduism is focused on Satwa, does not believe in

force or impose anything on anyone. Whereas the other religions have based

their teachings on abandoning your own and

embracing theirs. I had a help at home who was a christian, who refused to

put the "Kolam' everyday(Rangoli every morning} as she

said she is afraid of doing it, incurring the wrath of God etc.. While I had

no objection of her going to church every sunday, bring back the offerings from

there she was adamant. Why is it that the

element of religiousness borders on fanaticism? Though Christ was an epitome

of compassion, sacrifice and love , the propagators of the

religion are strangely diverse. I could see them flocking the tsunami

affected seasides in Chennai, seeking to convert whatever remained. In fact 90%

of the fisherfolk devastated were christians.

Dose nature spare religion. Ultimately God wants his children to know him as

He is, if it pleases you to be a christian, Muslim, Hindu be it so. Attain him

in peace not violence and bloodshed.An

interesting analogy comes to my mind, we all regularly,went to the Malayappan

of Tirumala by foot. I used to reach the padivasal in about 3and ahalf to 4

hrs. my husband and children in about 2hr 45 mins. We all reached the summit,

we did it in our way, the way we could to the best of our efforts, everything

focused on reaching Him

alone. Is that not what the Supreme intends for us , to reach him in our own

way, in our own time.Why impose that this is the only way to reach God and that

every otherway does not take you there.

Here we are hearing of the only ways to attain the Supreme? Like you said,Why

not leave it and find a way of coming together to find a unified way of finding

the true spirit of Hinduism and play our part in restoring its Glory.

Nalini

{Om Namah Shivayah Namah Mallikarjunaya}

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> Dear Arjunji.

>

> I am retaining some part of of your reply here and will add some

comments and get the record straight

>

> I hope you can recall the statement of George Bush jr that the

war on terror is the start of the 3rd millenniums crusade to which

the Islamic world took exceptions....but doesn't mind its followers

using Jihad day in and day out.

>

> how did the word Jihad come into being is well documented by a

BBC documentary on CRUSADES

>

> for the record ti is the Church that set the sword wielding

might to spread the message of a peaceful Christ's message they

massacred millions of people across Europe, Africa, parts of Asia.

> and Many Islamic states were burnt with devotees in mosques,

palaces or markets by the overzealous CHURCH

> WE ARE ALL AWARE THAT THE chair of the Pope was of a

CHAKRAVARTHY OR Central Monarch of Europe, all they plundered is

still visible in the Vatican till date.

>

> in one summer there was a single eyed man called Sala-Uddin who

in broad daylight in RAMZAN STARTED EATING food when they are

superposed to fast, outraged fellow devotees nearly mauled him and

he creied Halt and drew their attention to the mindless crusades

the massacre of innocent Muslims across the world if this is not

provoking them the same way as he is breaking the fast.

> this led to the central command and formed the COUNTER TO

CRUSADES (war to propagate Christianity) called it Jihad the war to

preserve Islam.

> BUT IN THE PROCESS THEY HAD MUCH MORE VIOLENCE BLOODSHED DAMAGE

TO THE WORLD ORDER, raped Innocent women, killed as many as hey

could and Chengiz Khan's exploits are well documented.

>

> the church according to a Panorama program on BBC was show an

African asking what has it given Africa other than civil war,

disease and poverty a rich continent till Europe discovered it

looted all its wealth, vegetation and replaced it with civil ware

and diseases.

>

> so we can safely say what the crusades sowed they are reaping

and it Is a chain reaction on and on.

>

>

> BUT SANER WISDOM MUST PREVAIL AND ALL VIOLENCE MSUT END FOR AMM

SIDES AND a spirit of live and let live prevail, if civilisation

is to survive we must sink differences. Buddhism is the strongest

moral force its teachigns of the 8th fold path relevant for all

times to come.

> People from Bharatha Varsha, or arya vartha never attacked or

colonised any place, forget what the British and Max Mulkler had to

say they had their own agenda to divide and rule it wa never our

real history at least that Aryans invaded and chased away Dravidans.

>

> Aryans chineese, Mesopatioan, Mexican's Maya all have some

inventions, discoveries what did Dravidans have to show to be

loted, plundered or driven off. no emperor from Europe, or Mugha or

any period cross and rule in so called dravidan state TN fully why

if there is anything worth to loot they would have isn't it.

>

> As The so called dravidans have the same 27 stars, 12 rasis, 9

planets, same gods, same festivals the names are only different as

i sthe case with every language in the 850 odd languages, dialects

we have in present India.

>

> we need fresh thinking, research and unite our soul again the

Bharata Matas kith and kin.

>

> Prashant.

>

>

>

> panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: dear krishnan

ji

>

> when you said you wonder why a saint worries for mandir-masjid,

let

> me tell you the facts:

>

> 1. dharmo rakshati rakshita is the adage to be followed by the

> king.....

> 3. Christianity was spread across the globe with a human touch

and

> by liberal doling of money, education, clothing and shelter for

the

> poorest and neglected people in the remotest corners. so

christian

> missionaries and their service organisations are thriving even

in

> India, for their following the "karma marga" to serve the humans

the

> way jesus christ did. THE LESSON IS IF YOU DO SERVICE TO THE

> HUMANITY, RELIGION DOES NOT MATTER AND PEOPLE WELCOME YOU WITH

OPEN

> ARMS.

>

> According to muslims, god is formless (nirakaar). According to

> christians also god is formless (nirakaar)and jesus is seen by

many

> as a messenger of god while few view them as son of god or god's

> incarnation. According to Hindu scriptures, even while

emphasising

> that god is "nirakaar" they say that god is all pervading and

all

> permeating and takes any form or any shape and that god is there

in

> every form and every shape. some unrealised people believe that

god

> is only in this or that shape, whereas in reality he is formless

and

> can be found any and every where.

>

> the other day a scientist customer came to me to know his chart

but

> asked me a question: "Sir, if several people have gone to Moon,

put

> their foot on the Moon, dug the moon and brought parts of Moon

to

> earth for testing and are constructing houses on moon and plans

> afoot to make it a tourist spot, how do you believe the

mythology

> that moon was a god. if so, would he allow people to stand on

> him". then i replied that the same way billions of humans are

> living on planet earth and diggig and spoiling the earth whom we

> rever as "Bhoodevi" according to hindu mythology, moon is also

like

> Bhoodevi and we treat all of them as gods". then he quipped

saying

> that if that is the case both moon and earth are just planets

and

> science never accept them as gods and if the entire mythology is

> based on such gods, the entire mythology itself is a trash.

>

> these are the thoughts coming to the minds of the learnt people

> according to their own understandings. THE TRUTH OR REALITY IS

THAT

> THE REALITY IS ONLY ONE AND ITS UNDERSTANDINGS ARE MANY.

>

> with best wishes

> arjun

> , vattem krishnan

> <bursar_99@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sir,

> > Music is bhakti.Tyagraja kriti is to remind the simplicity of

human beings.The one singing and the one listening are in

different worlds.The meaning as well as the melody has a different

> significance. The same is the case with Bhakta puranadara das

and

> Annamacharya.Sant Tukaram and Meera bai popularised our Itihasas

and

> other classicals to become part of every day life.

>

>

> Prashant

>

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dear contributors,

while we are finding out the fanatic approach of the

christianity and also some mails talk about the

violent approach of Islam, at this juncture I wish to

share my views. conversion to christianity was

basically because of poverty and not of true devotion

to God of that particular religion. After converting

themselves they are indoctrinated to do as per the

sermons given by the pastor or mullah's. but in spite

of all these extreme approach still we have

individuals whom we should acknowledge as good souls.

For eg the promoter of this web site is a Muslim from

Bangla desh, he has developed faith in our religion

and he is doing a yeoman service. President abdul

kalam is quite conversant with Hindu scriptures. late

Ismail ( High court Judge) was well versed with

Ramayana and Mahabharatha. Unfortunately the numbers

in other religions are few to accept or have faith and

tolerance towards other religion.

 

with good wishes,

k.gopu