(TAILPIECE nothing to do with Ketu!) God and Karma

April 12, 2006

Dear Nalini,

Dang! Forgot to add this while I had the chance ...

For the numerologists who might have been sampling my recent thoughts

on this matter, the spider and web and karma and trapped humans!

Suddenly realized that what separates the SPIDER from other insects

is that insects technically are six legged while the Spider has been

given a special place in the classification because it has 8 legs!

Interesting the concordance between number 8 and SPIDER and its

octagonal web and the Saturn planet, numerologically speaking. How

Karmic, OH MY!

RR

, "crystal pages"

<jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> Dear Nalini,

>

> As always, you came through :-) with a fresh look at the situation.

> Please take this as a compliment and not criticism (certainly not

> personal!) but most of us are really blind persons trying to figure

> out how the elephant is like and actually, unlike the fable of the

> elephant and men from Hindustan (as I believe it is called!), most

of

> us do not even know for sure if it is an elephant or a big Spider!

> Being blind from birth, most of us.

>

> But when someone suddenly comes into this 'blind party' [misery

does

> love company and it *is* a party! <I bet there would be five

> insulting emails taking me to task and showing me my place -- in

> response to that brash statement!> and claims or even PROCLAIMS

that

> they are giving the answer the final answer based on scriptures and

> all then such statements must be responded to, questioned and

> challenged. That is not liked on some forums (fora) but I refuse to

> accept that position as even tenable.

>

> Simply put, we (all religions and cultures) have had scriptures and

> sage sayings and even more elite and illuminated statements,

straight

> from the MOUTH of GOD, not for ten or hundred but THOUSANDS of

years

> and according to a very sensational work in channeled literature

> (revealed truth essentially, though certain religions may not

accept

> same for it did not come from within their courtyard) the TRUTH has

> been reinfused several times, many times before what we consider

and

> accept our times, the ONLY times that creation has existed. Please

> remember this is just what has been written and not necessarily

> endorsed by the author of this message or forum administration!

>

> Pardon my defensiveness after the recent skid-row I survived, but

> the 'tiger balm' is really helping ;-)

>

> I like to draw all my inspiration from the pragmatic experience and

> wisdom and day-to-day reality. When I see that reflected and

> *CORRELATED* with something astral or astrological/symbological it

> confirms a wonderful phrase that touches my soul: AS ABOVE SO BELOW!

>

> It has been pointed out by kind souls that this statement is not

> kosher and not true, but is that enough? I mean I admire the

staying

> power of the insect next to me on this KARMA-WEB, caught way before

> me in the web of karma and still alive, but should the credit go to

> him or the kindness of the SPIDER?

>

> RR

>

> , "auromirra19"

> <nalini2818@> wrote:

> >

> > [Om Namo Narayanaya]

> > RRji,

> > More often than not, the poor being is unaware of being shackled,

> so

> > subtle is the bondage. Nor does it know that it is operating

within

> > a restricted ambit, it is happy to think that it is *free*. The

> > thought of escape arises only when and if it realises the

> surreality

> > of it all, the walls, the rope. Till then it is ignorantly,

> > bissfully happy in its own 'free' world.

> > My few thoughts

> > Regards

> > nalini

> > [On Namah Shivaya Namah Mallikarjunaya]

> > , "crystal pages"

> > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Rishi,

> > >

> > > You make a good point, but I would like to stretch the analogy

a

> > bit

> > > more, to the side, if I may :-)

> > > It is true that a certain escape velocity would be required to

> > escape

> > > from the grativational pull (and would vary for each planet

> > because

> > > the gravitational force would be different, I believe). One may

> > > extend the metaphor and see the similarity between escape from

> > > gravity and escape from the in-the-box or thinking in the

groove

> > > (skilfully trying to avoid the emotion-charged 'T' and "O"

> words!).

> > >

> > > However, in order to escape G, one does not have to leave the

> > earth

> > > and antigravity practice simulators come to mind where

astronauts

> > > practice. One can remain within the BIG KARMA while escaping

> > little

> > > karma at least temporarily!

> > >

> > > I remember Mr. KN Rao once quoted Ramkrishna Parmahamsa who had

> > > stated that human soul is like the goat tied to a pole with a

> rope

> > > within a locked courtyard. The Walls are the big KARMA

boundaries

> > > (dridha, I believe it is called technically) and the rope is

the

> > > small karma and so called Free-will. Interesting analogy.

> > >

> > > However, the thing that came to my mind immediately was this:

If

> > the

> > > goat was a human child (say 10 or 12 even -- much less than 15

> > say --

> > > I am sure he would be able to untie the rope around his neck

and

> > > climb the wall and escape. That is the difference between the

> > > allegory of the goat when applied to humans!

> > >

> > > Hence there is more hope for humans through understanding and

> > > remedies to overcome karma and boundaries and generally

> > speaking "G"!

> > > And by remedies I dont mean gemstones or easy escape routes

alone!

> > >

> > > Does this make sense?

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > , "rishi_2000in"

> > > <rishi_2000in@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Does one reach the escape velocity ?

> > > > Or just a velocity which breaks the sound barrier of thoughts

> > and

> > > > the conscious awareness.

> > > > In such a case one is subjected to the laws and has to once

> > again

> > > > begin abinitio, the earlier inings there , being counted too

> but

> > we

> > > > are not aware of the scores.

> > > > For each karma done,whether one wants or not, the fruit will

be

> > > > there.

> > > > regards

> > > > rishi

> > > >

> > > > , "crystal pages"

> > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Krishnan ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks!

> > > > > The last sentence in your post is a keeper. Please allow me

> to

> > > > > highlight it?

> > > > >

> > > > > <<otheriwse this sojourn has no meaning>>

> > > > >

> > > > > Hence, despite no hope for an escape, the little insect

must

> > > > continue

> > > > > to write, here, there, everywhere because it is not the web

> > that

> > > > is

> > > > > killing it but the fact that it decided to give up writing

> > that

> > > > > manual, "How to prevent Karma, at least the next time

around!"

> > > > >

> > > > > The sages are gone, the more recent NON-SAGE writers are

> gone,

> > > > even

> > > > > more recent regular grihastha jyotishis and jyotish writers

> > are

> > > > gone!

> > > > > Ripe fruit, keep falling daily, all the time and no one is

> > > > surprised

> > > > > anymore.

> > > > >

> > > > > But Jyotish miraculously lives on and even improves in some

> > ways.

> > > > The

> > > > > very fact that the Spider is giving the insect a chance and

> > time

> > > > to

> > > > > write the treatise is meaningful! The Spider is not hungry,

> it

> > is

> > > > > just doing its duty. The insect, on the other hand, is the

> one

> > on

> > > > > whom God's limelight is focused on!!

> > > > >

> > > > > RR

> > > > >

> > > > > , vattem krishnan

> > > > > <bursar_99@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sir,

> > > > > > Risks being misunderstood and mis perceived need no

> > > > > anticipation.it is always fecilitation of web based media

and

> > > > needs

> > > > > more preservance.

> > > > > > Karma is omni present in all actions good or

> > > > bad.henceeternal.if

> > > > > spider preys throgh the web and insect becomes victim as

> that

> > > day

> > > > it

> > > > > was the turn of the insect,i feel these are all events that

> > > happen

> > > > > around to witness.the study of the creation is awesome and

to

> > > > account

> > > > > for the happenings we lack really script.people venture to

> > > > > define "maya" and may be iam trying to define what it is

> > knowing

> > > > > fully well is abstract.This interlocked and interconnected

> > > > > dependance can also be preceived as dahrma to follow for

the

> > rest

> > > > of

> > > > > ardha,kama and moksha.After all stages in life that come as

> > > result

> > > > of

> > > > > cycle from birth to death do not need also a

volunteer.things

> > go

> > > > on

> > > > > and on....we either have to get amused and feel helpless or

> > break

> > > > > boundaries to violate and do something different.if this is

> > what

> > > > Maha

> > > > > purush constitutes how ever rarely they dawn and happen.we

> > need

> > > to

> > > > > embold ourselves to do differently and bow every day to

give

> > you

> > > > that

> > > > > element to say you would like to different from

> > > > > > others.otheriwse this sojourn has no meaning

> > > > > > krishnan

> > > > > >

> > > > > > crystal pages <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > Krishnanji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Responding to your posting in the thread but not

> necessarily

> > > > > > responding to your last message alone or even other

> messages

> > > but

> > > > > just

> > > > > > addressing a thought-core that I am perceiving through my

> > > biased

> > > > > > human perception!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > People describe and discuss karma and describe divinity

or

> > even

> > > > > God.

> > > > > > Or try to anyway.

> > > > > > I am not criticising anyone because regardless of what

> > spirit

> > > or

> > > > > vein

> > > > > > something is written, by me, or anyone for that matter

> risks

> > > > being

> > > > > > misunderstood and misperceived etc.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So let me just say it, as is my nature :-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Three images loom in front of my mind's eye:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > A small child raised by loving parents trying to define

and

> > > > > describe

> > > > > > and write an essay on its Parents.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The same child now a teenager, doing the same

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The child, now a parent himself, describing his parent

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The human being trying to describe God at different

stages

> > in

> > > > his

> > > > > or

> > > > > > her life!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Another more fearsome image also looms in front of my

> mind's

> > > eye.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > A tiny insect caught in the Spider's web trying to write

a

> > > > treatise

> > > > > > on the escape route!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > A little sign near the web reads, "Karma"

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , vattem krishnan

> > > > > > <bursar_99@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Sir,

> > > > > > > This thread crux for wiping out past debts always

keep

> > > > > surfacing

> > > > > > for the reason"as we are caught in the mesh of past and

> > present"

> > > > > > > If 'paropakaram is parama dharmam'we must find

> > volunteers

> > > to

> > > > do

> > > > > > good selflessly.we know sages, seers and mahapurushas be

it

> > > Lord

> > > > > > jesus Christ,Shri Shrdi Saibaba or even Satya Saibaba led

> > the

> > > > way

> > > > > to

> > > > > > establish the fact that wiping out tears from torn faces

> and

> > > > show

> > > > > > them the way to lead life of righteousness was their

> > concern.In

> > > > the

> > > > > > process what they have gained or lost is beyond our

> > > > comprehension

> > > > > for

> > > > > > the present.one thing is sure to the world that they

> > christened

> > > > > > as "messengers of god"..people found solace in their

> > preachings

> > > > and

> > > > > > followers were blind enough to accept the path suggested

by

> > > them

> > > > to

> > > > > > find merit and adopt the life.Also we are not aware of

> their

> > > > karmic

> > > > > > results in the process.one thing evident that merits for

> > future

> > > > > > guidance is""paropakaraya punyaya papaya parapeedanam".

> > doing

> > > > good

> > > > > > to others is punyam and doing bad to others is papam.

this

> > is

> > > > the

> > > > > > reason why god realised souls go in search of the

> > suffering"if

> > > > this

> > > > > > logic is meant for improving one's own account

> > > > > > > through these means and dedicate for the cause

> of 'manava

> > > > sevaye

> > > > > > madhava seva'and alleviate the sufferings of the some

> > atleast

> > > > there

> > > > > > is some purpose to fulfil as a mission to do their bit as

> > part

> > > > of

> > > > > > life.ultimately one has to contend'strange are the ways

of

> > > > God'to

> > > > > > find swayam sevaks to deliver to the society in larger

> > interest

> > > > and

> > > > > > involve in the struggle for good and bad.It must the same

> > > > as'Dharma

> > > > > > smasthapanaya sambhavami yuge yuge'

> > > > > > > krishnan

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > > > > > > dear krishnan ji

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > we discussed this subject in various threads earlier in

> > this

> > > > > group

> > > > > > > but it is always good to discuss this important

dimension

> > > > again.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > in my understanding, the horoscope is like the

statement

> > of

> > > > > karmic

> > > > > > > account as on the date of birth in which all the deeds

of

> > his

> > > > > > > previous births have been factored and an "indication"

of

> > > > future

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > presented. in share market, the footnote of any IPO

> > > > says "past

> > > > > > > performance is not an indicator of future success".

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > generally till 15 years of ago, a native has no

physical

> > or

> > > > > mental

> > > > > > > capacity to change his karmic account. but afterwards

as

> > the

> > > > > > native

> > > > > > > gains knowledge, the karmic account can be changed as

he

> > wish

> > > > > to.

> > > > > > > by doing good deeds he can earn more merit or wipe off

> the

> > > > sins.

> > > > > > > similarly by doing wrong deeds he can earn more sins

and

> > wipe

> > > > off

> > > > > > > the merits. to decipher merit and sin, sage vyasa said

> > > > > > > simply "paropakaraya punyaya papaya parapeedanam".

doing

> > > good

> > > > to

> > > > > > > others is punyam and doing bad to others is papam.

this

> > is

> > > > the

> > > > > > > reason why god realised souls go in search of the

> > suffering

> > > > and

> > > > > > heal

> > > > > > > them like jesus or shirdi saibaba did. even

ramakrishna

> > and

> > > > > > > vivekananda helped crores of people achieve self

> > > realisation.

> > > > > all

> > > > > > > these god realised people are god themselves and there

is

> > no

> > > > > > > difference between god and these realised people.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > as mark once observed rightly, "your fuure is in your

> > > hands".

> > > > > you

> > > > > > > are not a puppet with the strings in the hands of the

> nine

> > > > > > planets.

> > > > > > > you have the power to break free and move forward or

> > > surrender

> > > > to

> > > > > > > the planets with inaction and have no growth at all.

for

> > a

> > > > > > realised

> > > > > > > person, planets are meaningless. for an ordinary

layman

> > > > enmeshed

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > the maya of dependance on few individuals or few

objects,

> > > > planets

> > > > > > > are gods. for a realised person, god is within and he

is

> > god.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > here comes the role of a guru to help one achieve this

> > > > > realisation.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > with best wishes and regards

> > > > > > > arjun

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , vattem

krishnan

> > > > > > > <bursar_99@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Shri Arjun ji,

> > > > > > > > is it not that true that if we can get light and

get

> > > > > satisfied

> > > > > > > with 'all are equated in getting the light of

knowledge"

> > > > > > > > removal of ignorance or darkness is a very very

long

> > > > journey

> > > > > > > that involves not a single birth/janma.After all effort

> > > should

> > > > be

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > keep making value additions in evry janma with

> > consciouness

> > > > and

> > > > > > > (some)realsiation

> > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > > krishnan

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Dear Members

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > We have always emphasised the fact that classical

> > works r

> > > > the

> > > > > > > main framework of Jyotishya anyday and we need to use

> its

> > > > built

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > desha, kala, paristihhi rule in it to amend, adopt it

> for

> > > the

> > > > > > > times, country, culture, political, ecconimic

sitiations

> > we

> > > > are

> > > > > > > analysing.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > THE ORIGINAL QUESTION is not being covered but

around

> > it

> > > a

> > > > > lot

> > > > > > > of discussion is going on.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > GURU in lagna a benefic, WILL HE REMOVE 100

> AFLICTIONS

> > Y/N

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > this is true and no use digging into irrelevent

> logic,

> > > > stasts.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > as for a given chart he may remove 100 aflictions

> > there

> > > > can

> > > > > be

> > > > > > > many more present.

> > > > > > > > so why dispute the 100 which 100 is the question

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > GARGA is the source of this rule, guru in Lagna

> > removes

> > > > 100

> > > > > > > aflictions, in 10th many more 100's

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > BUT PLEASE REMEMBER THE 1ST PREAMBLE SLOKA ONE

WRITES

> > IN

> > > > A

> > > > > > > JANMA PATRI , very few computer horosope programs print

> > this

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Janani Janma Soukhyanam

> > > > > > > > Vardhini Kula Sampadaam

> > > > > > > > Padavim purvapunyaanaam

> > > > > > > > Likhyetha Janampatrikahnaam

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > [there can be typos here]

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > meaning the interpretations from a horoscope are

> > compiled

> > > > > form

> > > > > > > the ommissions, commission of the family, which arise

> > from

> > > > its

> > > > > > > status (morals), thus the native and his mothers fate

r

> > to

> > > > be

> > > > > > > forecasted.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Bhagavad Geetha also says one is born into a family

> of

> > a

> > > > > > > particulkar trait as his previous vasana or sanmskaram

> > thus

> > > > > people

> > > > > > > with good, ethical, dharmic, humble people are born

into

> > > such

> > > > > > > families and people with anger, greed, avarice,

hatred,

> > > > > contempt,

> > > > > > > hunger, illhealth etc into similar recivers of such

> > karmaic

> > > > > > > balances only

> > > > > > > > so all cant't have same 100 Doshas to be cleansed

by

> > Guru

> > > > or

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > that matter nay benefic. so there is bound to be

various

> > > > results

> > > > > > > for different people born in the same Lagan that is

1/12

> > > > cases.

> > > > > > > depending onther karma balance sheet

> > > > > > > > a horoscope is the opening balance of Karma in this

> > life.

> > > > as

> > > > > > > brough forward from past lives.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Plus the other amsas, their lagnas also matter

don't

> > they?

> > > > > > > > the other elements of a horoscope, like

> > > > > shadbala,ashtakkavarga

> > > > > > > and above all the time-dasa for such thing to happen a

> > > > > protection

> > > > > > > or insurance that Guru's 100 waiver gives.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > so a balanced and intelligent interpretation is

> called

> > > for

> > > > no

> > > > > > > outright acceptence or rejection. this problem comes

as

> > we

> > > > are

> > > > > > > trying to fit in a whole picture from a single point.

> > when

> > > it

> > > > is

> > > > > > > only part of the whole picture thw whole picture msut

be

> > > > studied.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I hope there is some light in this effort..

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@> wrote: dear

> RR

> > ji

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > before discussing light on astrological

perspective,

> i

> > > > > briefly

> > > > > > > touch

> > > > > > > > what this light is all about.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > our country "bharat" itself is full of light.

bhasi

> > > > diptau

> > > > > > > ratah

> > > > > > > > bharata. compare this to meaningless America which

> > > denote

> > > > or

> > > > > > > > connote nothing except the americans' darkness

> > > (ignorance)

> > > > to

> > > > > > > > continue their country remaining named after the

> > Italian

> > > > > > Amerigo

> > > > > > > > Vespucci who was WRONGLY credited with discovering

> > that

> > > > land.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > what you said is true that, in layman's ability

what

> > is

> > > > there

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > mind is seen only by eyes. verily sun and moon are

> > > > > attributed

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > both eyes or loosely as day and night. a realised

> > person

> > > > > > > closing

> > > > > > > > the eyes can see with his mind with his "divya

> > drishti"

> > > > and

> > > > > all

> > > > > > > > sages and saints used to have this.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Old Testament, Genesis says that the entire

creation

> > > began

> > > > > with

> > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > light. it also says man is god's own image. when

we

> > > > > say "lead

> > > > > > > us

> > > > > > > > to light from darkness" and we want more light or

> > > > knowledge

> > > > > > > > like "tamaso ma yotir gamaya" we mean dispelling

> > > > > our "ignorance

> > > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > darkness" with the "light or knoweldge". a

realised

> > > > person

> > > > > > sees

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > light or god within and an ignorant person remains

in

> > > dark

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > does

> > > > > > > > not see god.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > it is written in upanishads that to know that light

> > (god)

> > > > and

> > > > > > > reach

> > > > > > > > that light, one shall approach a Guru (jupiter) who

> > has

> > > > > > realised

> > > > > > > > god. simply put, to remove our darkness or

ignorance

> > we

> > > > seek

> > > > > > > light

> > > > > > > > or knowledge for which we approach the guru or

> jupiter.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > in this context, the light of jupiter or knowledge

> > helps

> > > > the

> > > > > > > native

> > > > > > > > realise the god. be it the jupiter (guru of

devatas)

> > or

> > > > the

> > > > > > > planet

> > > > > > > > jupiter or the human guru, and remove our

ignorance

> > of

> > > > > > darkness.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > may jupiter's light shine on all.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > with best wishes

> > > > > > > > arjun

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , "crystal

> > pages"

> > > > > > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The proof that light exists in the astropragmatic

> > (used

> > > > to

> > > > > be

> > > > > > > > called

> > > > > > > > > astro-LOGICAL) framework is simple. It is what

can

> > > > actually

> > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > seen

> > > > > > > > > because without light one cannot see! Right? What

> > one

> > > > can

> > > > > see

> > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > where light is at!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Some have extended that to say: What the mind

> knows,

> > > > only

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > eyes can see! Sarcastic perhaps but to clear my

> > plate,

> > > > it

> > > > > was

> > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > original!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Think about that, seriously, based on your

personal

> > > > > reality --

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > please --rather than hitting the reply button

> > and ...!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Let us begin a new thread and really lay down our

> > > > > > > understanding

> > > > > > > > about

> > > > > > > > > the light that we glibly talk about in the

> > astrological

> > > > > > > framework

> > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > reference.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Other than the SUN the only source of light that

we

> > > know

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > can

> > > > > > > > > defend and moon its biggest reflector.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > But let us go beyond that and discuss what this

> > > > > > > > astrological 'light'

> > > > > > > > > really is about in day to day astrology. We all

can

> > go

> > > > and

> > > > > > > read

> > > > > > > > > classics, thanks to many giants on whose

shoulders

> > we

> > > > have

> > > > > > > been

> > > > > > > > > allowed to stand and see far out!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > RR

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE

> > DIVINITY

> > > > AND

> > > > > > > RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

> > > > > > > >

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