LIGHT -- astrological light ..Simple Explanation

April 11, 2006

If I may be permitted to add, light encompasses darkness and shadows

too, for light and jyotish cannot be taken in isolation. The shadows

in form of Rahu/Ketu; Thhe light of Sun and Moon and Jupiter is

incomplete without the darkness cause by others.

regards

rishi

, Tatvamasi

<om_tatsat_om wrote:

>

> Friends,

> Jyotish is science of light.

> Why ?

> Trikaal falls under the domain of Rahu and is lord of Tamas.

Tamas is unknown Time and space here.

>

> My explanation is,

> "The Jaya (Victory) over Tamas (Darkness)" is Jyoti.

> And in astrological terms, Jyotish means,

> Isha (Lord) of that jyoti which gives you victory over Tamas

(unknown time and space) meaning Rahu.

> Hence Astrology falls under the lordship of Rahu.

>

> Tatvam-Asi

>

> vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

> Dear Sir,

> This thread crux for wiping out past debts always keep surfacing

for the reason"as we are caught in the mesh of past and present"

> If 'paropakaram is parama dharmam'we must find volunteers to do

good selflessly.we know sages, seers and mahapurushas be it Lord

jesus Christ,Shri Shrdi Saibaba or even Satya Saibaba led the way to

establish the fact that wiping out tears from torn faces and show

them the way to lead life of righteousness was their concern.In the

process what they have gained or lost is beyond our comprehension

for the present.one thing is sure to the world that they christened

as "messengers of god"..people found solace in their preachings and

followers were blind enough to accept the path suggested by them to

find merit and adopt the life.Also we are not aware of their karmic

results in the process.one thing evident that merits for future

guidance is""paropakaraya punyaya papaya parapeedanam". doing good

to others is punyam and doing bad to others is papam. this is the

reason why god realised souls go in search of the suffering"if this

logic is meant for improving one's own account

> through these means and dedicate for the cause of 'manava sevaye

madhava seva'and alleviate the sufferings of the some atleast there

is some purpose to fulfil as a mission to do their bit as part of

life.ultimately one has to contend'strange are the ways of God'to

find swayam sevaks to deliver to the society in larger interest and

involve in the struggle for good and bad.It must the same as'Dharma

smasthapanaya sambhavami yuge yuge'

> krishnan

>

> panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote:

> dear krishnan ji

>

> we discussed this subject in various threads earlier in this group

> but it is always good to discuss this important dimension again.

>

> in my understanding, the horoscope is like the statement of karmic

> account as on the date of birth in which all the deeds of his

> previous births have been factored and an "indication" of future

is

> presented. in share market, the footnote of any IPO says "past

> performance is not an indicator of future success".

>

> generally till 15 years of ago, a native has no physical or mental

> capacity to change his karmic account. but afterwards as the

native

> gains knowledge, the karmic account can be changed as he wish to.

> by doing good deeds he can earn more merit or wipe off the sins.

> similarly by doing wrong deeds he can earn more sins and wipe off

> the merits. to decipher merit and sin, sage vyasa said

> simply "paropakaraya punyaya papaya parapeedanam". doing good to

> others is punyam and doing bad to others is papam. this is the

> reason why god realised souls go in search of the suffering and

heal

> them like jesus or shirdi saibaba did. even ramakrishna and

> vivekananda helped crores of people achieve self realisation. all

> these god realised people are god themselves and there is no

> difference between god and these realised people.

>

> as mark once observed rightly, "your fuure is in your hands". you

> are not a puppet with the strings in the hands of the nine

planets.

> you have the power to break free and move forward or surrender to

> the planets with inaction and have no growth at all. for a

realised

> person, planets are meaningless. for an ordinary layman enmeshed

in

> the maya of dependance on few individuals or few objects, planets

> are gods. for a realised person, god is within and he is god.

>

> here comes the role of a guru to help one achieve this realisation.

>

> with best wishes and regards

> arjun

>

> , vattem krishnan

> <bursar_99@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Shri Arjun ji,

> > is it not that true that if we can get light and get satisfied

> with 'all are equated in getting the light of knowledge"

> > removal of ignorance or darkness is a very very long journey

> that involves not a single birth/janma.After all effort should be

to

> keep making value additions in evry janma with consciouness and

> (some)realsiation

> > regards

> > krishnan

> >

> > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > Dear Members

> >

> > We have always emphasised the fact that classical works r the

> main framework of Jyotishya anyday and we need to use its built

in

> desha, kala, paristihhi rule in it to amend, adopt it for the

> times, country, culture, political, ecconimic sitiations we are

> analysing.

> >

> > THE ORIGINAL QUESTION is not being covered but around it a lot

> of discussion is going on.

> >

> > GURU in lagna a benefic, WILL HE REMOVE 100 AFLICTIONS Y/N

> >

> > this is true and no use digging into irrelevent logic, stasts.

> >

> > as for a given chart he may remove 100 aflictions there can be

> many more present.

> > so why dispute the 100 which 100 is the question

> >

> > GARGA is the source of this rule, guru in Lagna removes 100

> aflictions, in 10th many more 100's

> >

> > BUT PLEASE REMEMBER THE 1ST PREAMBLE SLOKA ONE WRITES IN A

> JANMA PATRI , very few computer horosope programs print this

> >

> > Janani Janma Soukhyanam

> > Vardhini Kula Sampadaam

> > Padavim purvapunyaanaam

> > Likhyetha Janampatrikahnaam

> >

> > [there can be typos here]

> >

> > meaning the interpretations from a horoscope are compiled form

> the ommissions, commission of the family, which arise from its

> status (morals), thus the native and his mothers fate r to be

> forecasted.

> >

> > Bhagavad Geetha also says one is born into a family of a

> particulkar trait as his previous vasana or sanmskaram thus

people

> with good, ethical, dharmic, humble people are born into such

> families and people with anger, greed, avarice, hatred, contempt,

> hunger, illhealth etc into similar recivers of such karmaic

> balances only

> > so all cant't have same 100 Doshas to be cleansed by Guru or

for

> that matter nay benefic. so there is bound to be various results

> for different people born in the same Lagan that is 1/12 cases.

> depending onther karma balance sheet

> > a horoscope is the opening balance of Karma in this life. as

> brough forward from past lives.

> >

> > Plus the other amsas, their lagnas also matter don't they?

> > the other elements of a horoscope, like shadbala,ashtakkavarga

> and above all the time-dasa for such thing to happen a protection

> or insurance that Guru's 100 waiver gives.

> >

> > so a balanced and intelligent interpretation is called for no

> outright acceptence or rejection. this problem comes as we are

> trying to fit in a whole picture from a single point. when it is

> only part of the whole picture thw whole picture msut be studied.

> >

> > I hope there is some light in this effort..

> >

> > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@> wrote: dear RR ji

> >

> > before discussing light on astrological perspective, i briefly

> touch

> > what this light is all about.

> >

> > our country "bharat" itself is full of light. bhasi diptau

> ratah

> > bharata. compare this to meaningless America which denote or

> > connote nothing except the americans' darkness (ignorance) to

> > continue their country remaining named after the Italian

Amerigo

> > Vespucci who was WRONGLY credited with discovering that land.

> >

> > what you said is true that, in layman's ability what is there

in

> > mind is seen only by eyes. verily sun and moon are attributed

> to

> > both eyes or loosely as day and night. a realised person

> closing

> > the eyes can see with his mind with his "divya drishti" and

all

> > sages and saints used to have this.

> >

> > Old Testament, Genesis says that the entire creation began

with

> a

> > light. it also says man is god's own image. when we

say "lead

> us

> > to light from darkness" and we want more light or knowledge

> > like "tamaso ma yotir gamaya" we mean dispelling

our "ignorance

> or

> > darkness" with the "light or knoweldge". a realised person

sees

> the

> > light or god within and an ignorant person remains in dark and

> does

> > not see god.

> >

> > it is written in upanishads that to know that light (god) and

> reach

> > that light, one shall approach a Guru (jupiter) who has

realised

> > god. simply put, to remove our darkness or ignorance we seek

> light

> > or knowledge for which we approach the guru or jupiter.

> >

> > in this context, the light of jupiter or knowledge helps the

> native

> > realise the god. be it the jupiter (guru of devatas) or the

> planet

> > jupiter or the human guru, and remove our ignorance of

darkness.

> >

> > may jupiter's light shine on all.

> >

> > with best wishes

> > arjun

> >

> > , "crystal pages"

> > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > >

> > > The proof that light exists in the astropragmatic (used to

be

> > called

> > > astro-LOGICAL) framework is simple. It is what can actually

be

> > seen

> > > because without light one cannot see! Right? What one can

see

> is

> > > where light is at!

> > >

> > > Some have extended that to say: What the mind knows, only

that

> the

> > > eyes can see! Sarcastic perhaps but to clear my plate, it

was

> not

> > my

> > > original!

> > >

> > > Think about that, seriously, based on your personal reality -

-

> > > please --rather than hitting the reply button and ...!

> > >

> > > Let us begin a new thread and really lay down our

> understanding

> > about

> > > the light that we glibly talk about in the astrological

> framework

> > of

> > > reference.

> > >

> > > Other than the SUN the only source of light that we know and

> can

> > > defend and moon its biggest reflector.

> > >

> > > But let us go beyond that and discuss what this

> > astrological 'light'

> > > really is about in day to day astrology. We all can go and

> read

> > > classics, thanks to many giants on whose shoulders we have

> been

> > > allowed to stand and see far out!

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> >

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April 11, 2006

Dear Friends,

The 'Light' may've been used in the context of 'Self realisation-Gnana' by our

seers.

Srinivas

rishi_2000in <rishi_2000in wrote: