Guest guest Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Dear Srinivas, Good u got the content in the right way I wanted when posted, we are all from a confused parantage last 3-4 generations where to go , which to believe, accept etc but there can be some implemation mistakes due to corruption in time and values but over all concepts of the vedic heritage are timeless. My paternal grandfather was a Atheist, father a rationalist, we r mix of rationilsts and some tradition, but know tradition has lot more than we can ever imagine, understand so what little we come across due to first our vasana, karma we add in our own small steps, life teaches us every day if we r open to any idea. and don't get lost in personalities, issues, rather in broader pictire of anything. if we isolate Karma siddhanta from Vedic culture, writings, astrology are all lifeless enteties. so in the name of R&D or modern outlook we need to strike a balance of the best of west and east. Prashant srinivasa murthy adavi <smadavi wrote: Dear Sir, Very fine piece of exposition.A further exposition of KARMA SIDDHANTA linking with previous birth vaasanas(Fate) and self efforts(Free will) by fruitful use of current janma and how the chart pointers indicate the same ,will help learners like us very much. kind regards Srinivas Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: Dear Members We have always emphasised the fact that classical works r the main framework of Jyotishya anyday and we need to use its built in desha, kala, paristihhi rule in it to amend, adopt it for the times, country, culture, political, ecconimic sitiations we are analysing. THE ORIGINAL QUESTION is not being covered but around it a lot of discussion is going on. GURU in lagna a benefic, WILL HE REMOVE 100 AFLICTIONS Y/N this is true and no use digging into irrelevent logic, stasts. as for a given chart he may remove 100 aflictions there can be many more present. so why dispute the 100 which 100 is the question GARGA is the source of this rule, guru in Lagna removes 100 aflictions, in 10th many more 100's BUT PLEASE REMEMBER THE 1ST PREAMBLE SLOKA ONE WRITES IN A JANMA PATRI , very few computer horosope programs print this Janani Janma Soukhyanam Vardhini Kula Sampadaam Padavim purvapunyaanaam Likhyetha Janampatrikahnaam [there can be typos here] meaning the interpretations from a horoscope are compiled form the ommissions, commission of the family, which arise from its status (morals), thus the native and his mothers fate r to be forecasted. Bhagavad Geetha also says one is born into a family of a particulkar trait as his previous vasana or sanmskaram thus people with good, ethical, dharmic, humble people are born into such families and people with anger, greed, avarice, hatred, contempt, hunger, illhealth etc into similar recivers of such karmaic balances only so all cant't have same 100 Doshas to be cleansed by Guru or for that matter nay benefic. so there is bound to be various results for different people born in the same Lagan that is 1/12 cases. depending onther karma balance sheet a horoscope is the opening balance of Karma in this life. as brough forward from past lives. Plus the other amsas, their lagnas also matter don't they? the other elements of a horoscope, like shadbala,ashtakkavarga and above all the time-dasa for such thing to happen a protection or insurance that Guru's 100 waiver gives. so a balanced and intelligent interpretation is called for no outright acceptence or rejection. this problem comes as we are trying to fit in a whole picture from a single point. when it is only part of the whole picture thw whole picture msut be studied. I hope there is some light in this effort.. panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: dear RR ji before discussing light on astrological perspective, i briefly touch what this light is all about. our country "bharat" itself is full of light. bhasi diptau ratah bharata. compare this to meaningless America which denote or connote nothing except the americans' darkness (ignorance) to continue their country remaining named after the Italian Amerigo Vespucci who was WRONGLY credited with discovering that land. what you said is true that, in layman's ability what is there in mind is seen only by eyes. verily sun and moon are attributed to both eyes or loosely as day and night. a realised person closing the eyes can see with his mind with his "divya drishti" and all sages and saints used to have this. Old Testament, Genesis says that the entire creation began with a light. it also says man is god's own image. when we say "lead us to light from darkness" and we want more light or knowledge like "tamaso ma yotir gamaya" we mean dispelling our "ignorance or darkness" with the "light or knoweldge". a realised person sees the light or god within and an ignorant person remains in dark and does not see god. it is written in upanishads that to know that light (god) and reach that light, one shall approach a Guru (jupiter) who has realised god. simply put, to remove our darkness or ignorance we seek light or knowledge for which we approach the guru or jupiter. in this context, the light of jupiter or knowledge helps the native realise the god. be it the jupiter (guru of devatas) or the planet jupiter or the human guru, all are equated in getting the light of knowledge and remove our ignorance of darkness. may jupiter's light shine on all. with best wishes arjun , "crystal pages" <jyotish_vani wrote: > > The proof that light exists in the astropragmatic (used to be called > astro-LOGICAL) framework is simple. It is what can actually be seen > because without light one cannot see! Right? What one can see is > where light is at! > > Some have extended that to say: What the mind knows, only that the > eyes can see! Sarcastic perhaps but to clear my plate, it was not my > original! > > Think about that, seriously, based on your personal reality -- > please --rather than hitting the reply button and ...! > > Let us begin a new thread and really lay down our understanding about > the light that we glibly talk about in the astrological framework of > reference. > > Other than the SUN the only source of light that we know and can > defend and moon its biggest reflector. > > But let us go beyond that and discuss what this astrological 'light' > really is about in day to day astrology. We all can go and read > classics, thanks to many giants on whose shoulders we have been > allowed to stand and see far out! > > RR > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. Visit your group "" on the web. Prashant Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. Visit your group "" on the web. Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Messenger with Voice. SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology software Visit your group "" on the web. Prashant Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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