Bonds hindering spiritual progress

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There are four strong bonds, which hinder the spiritual progress.

1) The bond with the wife 2) The bond with the money 3) The bond

with the child 4) The bond with ones body and life.

 

Avadhoota can only be the soul who has cut all these four bonds. A

Sanyasi could cut the first three bonds but not the fourth bond. A

Sanyasi takes food, drinks water, sleeps and leaks the sperm

periodically. The Sanyasi avoided the wife but not the desire for

the sex. The eating, drinking, sleep and sex are the four biological

needs of the body. The Avadhoota lives maintaining his body without

these four needs and his body is beyond the rules of the nature. His

body is a divine body maintained by the super power (Maya) of the

Lord. The state of Avadhoota is complete liberation and such

complete salvation is possible only by the complete grace of the

Lord. Avadhoota is just an inert house of the Lord. There is no soul

in that body. The soul also is a part of the nature and so the soul

becomes a part of the inert house of the Lord. The Avadhoota thinks

talks or does anything only by the will of the Lord. It is one

system and not two in one.

 

Avadhoota is one hundred percent Lord. It is the state of the goal

and there is no journey further. He is called as Siddha and not

Sadhaka. Even the Sanyasi is a Sadhaka who is still travelling

towards that state. However, a stone can be also equated to

Avadhoota because it also has complete salvation but the Lord is not

dwelling in it. The Salvation must be attained through the devotion

of the Lord, which will lead to the state of Avadhoota. If simple

salvation is attained without devotion it will lead to the state of

a stone.

 

Among the three bonds the strongest bond is the bond with the

children. The wife can help in the spiritual effort (Sadhana) and

therefore she is called as `Saha Dharma Charini'. The sex, which is

a biological need, is a matter of attraction of few minutes or at

the maximum few hours. This little time is negligible compared to

the long lifetime and the energy dedicated to the Lord. But the bond

with the children persists in all the times and requires the

expenditure of the energy continuously.

 

The Bond with the money also increases due to this bond with

children. For the sake of the children people become currupt and try

to rob others. In such process they are doing lot of injustice. The

strength of this bond is reduced by realization and with this not

only the individual salvation in the upper world is achieved, but

also the justice in this world can be easily established. This is

the reason why the Lord spoke about the detachment of worldly bonds

for the establishment of the justice. He says that He is born to

establish the Justice, but He does not speak about the rules of the

Justice. The Government, Police and even the courts quote the rules

of Justice, which cannot establish the Justice. People are trying to

misinterpret these rules and win the case.

 

In Gita the Lord attempted for the detachment of these bonds, which

are responsible for the injustice. He attacked the problem at the

basic level. Therefore, the strength of the bond with the children

is proportional to the injustice in the world. This bond also

hinders the spiritual elevation. Unless the strongest bond is cut,

salvation is impossible. Without the salvation, the single bond with

the Lord is impossible.

 

at the lotus feet of shri datta swami

surya

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Dear Surya ji,

is it not the same as:Dharma,Ardha,kama and moskha bhavas spelt in

jyotish?.may be a blance that needs to be there,But not certainly to be treated

as hinderances to spirtual growth.

This created shrishti has roles in different way.creation needs energy and

energy is shakti swaroop and leads to the forms and outcomes

krishnan

 

surya <dattapr2000 wrote:

There are four strong bonds, which hinder the spiritual progress.

1) The bond with the wife 2) The bond with the money 3) The bond

with the child 4) The bond with ones body and life.

 

Avadhoota can only be the soul who has cut all these four bonds. A

Sanyasi could cut the first three bonds but not the fourth bond. A

Sanyasi takes food, drinks water, sleeps and leaks the sperm

periodically. The Sanyasi avoided the wife but not the desire for

the sex. The eating, drinking, sleep and sex are the four biological

needs of the body. The Avadhoota lives maintaining his body without

these four needs and his body is beyond the rules of the nature. His

body is a divine body maintained by the super power (Maya) of the

Lord. The state of Avadhoota is complete liberation and such

complete salvation is possible only by the complete grace of the

Lord. Avadhoota is just an inert house of the Lord. There is no soul

in that body. The soul also is a part of the nature and so the soul

becomes a part of the inert house of the Lord. The Avadhoota thinks

talks or does anything only by the will of the Lord. It is one

system and not two in one.

 

Avadhoota is one hundred percent Lord. It is the state of the goal

and there is no journey further. He is called as Siddha and not

Sadhaka. Even the Sanyasi is a Sadhaka who is still travelling

towards that state. However, a stone can be also equated to

Avadhoota because it also has complete salvation but the Lord is not

dwelling in it. The Salvation must be attained through the devotion

of the Lord, which will lead to the state of Avadhoota. If simple

salvation is attained without devotion it will lead to the state of

a stone.

 

Among the three bonds the strongest bond is the bond with the

children. The wife can help in the spiritual effort (Sadhana) and

therefore she is called as `Saha Dharma Charini'. The sex, which is

a biological need, is a matter of attraction of few minutes or at

the maximum few hours. This little time is negligible compared to

the long lifetime and the energy dedicated to the Lord. But the bond

with the children persists in all the times and requires the

expenditure of the energy continuously.

 

The Bond with the money also increases due to this bond with

children. For the sake of the children people become currupt and try

to rob others. In such process they are doing lot of injustice. The

strength of this bond is reduced by realization and with this not

only the individual salvation in the upper world is achieved, but

also the justice in this world can be easily established. This is

the reason why the Lord spoke about the detachment of worldly bonds

for the establishment of the justice. He says that He is born to

establish the Justice, but He does not speak about the rules of the

Justice. The Government, Police and even the courts quote the rules

of Justice, which cannot establish the Justice. People are trying to

misinterpret these rules and win the case.

 

In Gita the Lord attempted for the detachment of these bonds, which

are responsible for the injustice. He attacked the problem at the

basic level. Therefore, the strength of the bond with the children

is proportional to the injustice in the world. This bond also

hinders the spiritual elevation. Unless the strongest bond is cut,

salvation is impossible. Without the salvation, the single bond with

the Lord is impossible.

 

at the lotus feet of shri datta swami

surya

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The very liberation (or mukti) means breaking of the worldly bonds. The root of

all the worldly bonds is money. If the bond with the money is cut, all the

worldly bonds are cut, since money is the root of this whole ‘samsara’. The

fraud devotees want to escape this test and therefore interpreted the

‘karmaphala’ as the fruit of prayers, japa, parayana, dhyana etc. The eyes in

this world not at all see such fruit. Therefore such fruit of work done by words

and mind is unreal. There is no difficulty to sacrifice such unreal fruit.

Therefore they misinterpreted the ‘karmaphalatyaga’ as leaving a spoon of water

in the plate after doing such work by words and mind. Some people have fooled

the ignorant people by doing such works and get the ‘Gurudakshina’. They are

selling the unreal fruit for the real money, by promising that the fruits of

their sins will be removed and results of good deeds, which were not done, will

be attained.

 

The first mantra of the first Upanishad speaks about enjoyment and sacrifice

of money (kasyasvit dhanam). The mantra says that the entire creation is the

wealth of the Lord and one should store the money for his minimum enjoyment and

the rest should be sacrificed to the Lord who comes in the human form for His

mission to uplift this world. The second mantra says that one should

continuously work and earn. Vasista said that money is the root of all this

worldly family bonds (Dhanamulamidam jagat). When money is absent all the family

members will leave you. All the family members and relatives approach you only

due to money just like the frogs are present in the tank when it is full of

water.

 

The ‘Srichakram’ means the wheel that surrounds the money. Therefore when the

sacrifice of money comes into the picture, all the fraud devotees will run away

because in their hearts the attraction to the family bonds exists as solidified

darkness. Only the true devotees will stand, in whose hearts the darkness is

removed and the light of divine knowledge exists. The Lord came in human form

and tested ‘Saktuprasta’ in the sacrifice of the food, which is another form of

money. In draught he could secure a little flour and he was fasting for the past

ten days. He was not tested in any other way of words and mind (japa, parayana,

dhyana etc.). A real devotee will stand in this root test and this is the real

fire test.

 

at the lotus feet of shri datta swami

surya

www.universal-spirituality.org

 

vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

Dear Surya ji,

is it not the same as:Dharma,Ardha,kama and moskha bhavas spelt in jyotish?.may

be a blance that needs to be there,But not certainly to be treated as

hinderances to spirtual growth.

This created shrishti has roles in different way. creation needs energy and

energy is shakti swaroop and leads to the forms and outcomes

krishnan

 

 

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Sir,

since money is the root of this whole ‘samsara’. This may be a narrow approach

if we consider 'karmabhoomi" as janmabhoomi.All things have been programmed in

shrishti(creation).what matter is what we choose and the spirit involved in the

choice.

hence the sarcasm"Dhanam moolam idam jagat".Ther are many people(can be said

jyotish way)who may not be having the same philosophy and know the eluding

aspects of shristi and reconcile

krishnan

 

 

prakki surya <dattapr2000 wrote:

The very liberation (or mukti) means breaking of the worldly bonds. The root

of all the worldly bonds is money. If the bond with the money is cut, all the

worldly bonds are cut, since money is the root of this whole ‘samsara’. The

fraud devotees want to escape this test and therefore interpreted the

‘karmaphala’ as the fruit of prayers, japa, parayana, dhyana etc. The eyes in

this world not at all see such fruit. Therefore such fruit of work done by words

and mind is unreal. There is no difficulty to sacrifice such unreal fruit.

Therefore they misinterpreted the ‘karmaphalatyaga’ as leaving a spoon of water

in the plate after doing such work by words and mind. Some people have fooled

the ignorant people by doing such works and get the ‘Gurudakshina’. They are

selling the unreal fruit for the real money, by promising that the fruits of

their sins will be removed and results of good deeds, which were not done, will

be attained.

 

The first mantra of the first Upanishad speaks about enjoyment and sacrifice

of money (kasyasvit dhanam). The mantra says that the entire creation is the

wealth of the Lord and one should store the money for his minimum enjoyment and

the rest should be sacrificed to the Lord who comes in the human form for His

mission to uplift this world. The second mantra says that one should

continuously work and earn. Vasista said that money is the root of all this

worldly family bonds (Dhanamulamidam jagat). When money is absent all the family

members will leave you. All the family members and relatives approach you only

due to money just like the frogs are present in the tank when it is full of

water.

 

The ‘Srichakram’ means the wheel that surrounds the money. Therefore when the

sacrifice of money comes into the picture, all the fraud devotees will run away

because in their hearts the attraction to the family bonds exists as solidified

darkness. Only the true devotees will stand, in whose hearts the darkness is

removed and the light of divine knowledge exists. The Lord came in human form

and tested ‘Saktuprasta’ in the sacrifice of the food, which is another form of

money. In draught he could secure a little flour and he was fasting for the past

ten days. He was not tested in any other way of words and mind (japa, parayana,

dhyana etc.). A real devotee will stand in this root test and this is the real

fire test.

 

at the lotus feet of shri datta swami

surya

www.universal-spirituality.org

 

vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

Dear Surya ji,

is it not the same as:Dharma,Ardha,kama and moskha bhavas spelt in jyotish?.may

be a blance that needs to be there,But not certainly to be treated as

hinderances to spirtual growth.

This created shrishti has roles in different way. creation needs energy and

energy is shakti swaroop and leads to the forms and outcomes

krishnan

 

 

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[Om Namo Narayanaya]

Sri suryaji,

It is accepted generally that all of them are bonds, but are they

hindrances to spiritual growth. Unless you experience the maya of

the bonds can you find out what it is about and come out of it, neti

neti. Why did Adi Shankaracharya, experience what he did in the body

of the king? I agree the bond of the child is the strongest, but

also the most selfless and would it not teach you sacrifice, giving

up? Moreover cold shouldering it would be tantamount to shirking

your duty. Having been responsible for their coming into the world,

it is the duty of the parents to lead the child till he/she is able

to live independently.The duty also is in making the child aware of

the values, morality so that he is not a burden to the society. What

he/she turns out to be is quite another matter depending again on

the 'Karma balance sheet b/f'. Above all in responsibility to the

child, the parent need not become corrupt, he/she would become so

even if childless if it is an ingrained trait.

Above all, these bonds are all self imposed and would you deny that

man( I mean the encompassing gender here} loves them. A truly

spiritually liberated individual can be in the midst of all such

bonds but still be unfettered. They are bonds only if you perceive

them to be so, if they are the steps to further "light" then they

are that. We would do well to remember that they are self imposed

and can be untied anytime should we wish to, then they would not be

stifling or confining any more.

Regards

Nalini

[Om Namah Shivaya Namh Mallikarjunaya]

, vattem krishnan

<bursar_99 wrote:

>

> Dear Surya ji,

> is it not the same as:Dharma,Ardha,kama and moskha bhavas spelt

in jyotish?.may be a blance that needs to be there,But not certainly

to be treated as hinderances to spirtual growth.

> This created shrishti has roles in different way.creation needs

energy and energy is shakti swaroop and leads to the forms and

outcomes

> krishnan

>

> surya <dattapr2000 wrote:

> There are four strong bonds, which hinder the spiritual

progress.

> 1) The bond with the wife 2) The bond with the money 3) The bond

> with the child 4) The bond with ones body and life.

>

> Avadhoota can only be the soul who has cut all these four bonds. A

> Sanyasi could cut the first three bonds but not the fourth bond. A

> Sanyasi takes food, drinks water, sleeps and leaks the sperm

> periodically. The Sanyasi avoided the wife but not the desire for

> the sex. The eating, drinking, sleep and sex are the four

biological

> needs of the body. The Avadhoota lives maintaining his body

without

> these four needs and his body is beyond the rules of the nature.

His

> body is a divine body maintained by the super power (Maya) of the

> Lord. The state of Avadhoota is complete liberation and such

> complete salvation is possible only by the complete grace of the

> Lord. Avadhoota is just an inert house of the Lord. There is no

soul

> in that body. The soul also is a part of the nature and so the

soul

> becomes a part of the inert house of the Lord. The Avadhoota

thinks

> talks or does anything only by the will of the Lord. It is one

> system and not two in one.

>

> Avadhoota is one hundred percent Lord. It is the state of the goal

> and there is no journey further. He is called as Siddha and not

> Sadhaka. Even the Sanyasi is a Sadhaka who is still travelling

> towards that state. However, a stone can be also equated to

> Avadhoota because it also has complete salvation but the Lord is

not

> dwelling in it. The Salvation must be attained through the

devotion

> of the Lord, which will lead to the state of Avadhoota. If simple

> salvation is attained without devotion it will lead to the state

of

> a stone.

>

> Among the three bonds the strongest bond is the bond with the

> children. The wife can help in the spiritual effort (Sadhana) and

> therefore she is called as `Saha Dharma Charini'. The sex, which

is

> a biological need, is a matter of attraction of few minutes or at

> the maximum few hours. This little time is negligible compared to

> the long lifetime and the energy dedicated to the Lord. But the

bond

> with the children persists in all the times and requires the

> expenditure of the energy continuously.

>

> The Bond with the money also increases due to this bond with

> children. For the sake of the children people become currupt and

try

> to rob others. In such process they are doing lot of injustice.

The

> strength of this bond is reduced by realization and with this not

> only the individual salvation in the upper world is achieved, but

> also the justice in this world can be easily established. This is

> the reason why the Lord spoke about the detachment of worldly

bonds

> for the establishment of the justice. He says that He is born to

> establish the Justice, but He does not speak about the rules of

the

> Justice. The Government, Police and even the courts quote the

rules

> of Justice, which cannot establish the Justice. People are trying

to

> misinterpret these rules and win the case.

>

> In Gita the Lord attempted for the detachment of these bonds,

which

> are responsible for the injustice. He attacked the problem at the

> basic level. Therefore, the strength of the bond with the children

> is proportional to the injustice in the world. This bond also

> hinders the spiritual elevation. Unless the strongest bond is cut,

> salvation is impossible. Without the salvation, the single bond

with

> the Lord is impossible.

>

> at the lotus feet of shri datta swami

> surya

> www.universal-spirituality.org

>

>

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Nalini,

 

Absolutely loved the first sentence (bonds and growth)! The topic

brought to mind images of complaining and whining school children who

must take the examination to pass the grade!

 

Everyone hates examinations, of course, but Shani baba would not let

anyone pass if transcripts do not show progress :-)

 

RR

 

 

 

, "auromirra19"

<nalini2818 wrote:

>

> [Om Namo Narayanaya]

> Sri suryaji,

> It is accepted generally that all of them are bonds, but are they

> hindrances to spiritual growth. Unless you experience the maya of

> the bonds can you find out what it is about and come out of it,

neti

> neti. Why did Adi Shankaracharya, experience what he did in the

body

> of the king? I agree the bond of the child is the strongest, but

> also the most selfless and would it not teach you sacrifice, giving

> up? Moreover cold shouldering it would be tantamount to shirking

> your duty. Having been responsible for their coming into the world,

> it is the duty of the parents to lead the child till he/she is able

> to live independently.The duty also is in making the child aware of

> the values, morality so that he is not a burden to the society.

What

> he/she turns out to be is quite another matter depending again on

> the 'Karma balance sheet b/f'. Above all in responsibility to the

> child, the parent need not become corrupt, he/she would become so

> even if childless if it is an ingrained trait.

> Above all, these bonds are all self imposed and would you deny that

> man( I mean the encompassing gender here} loves them. A truly

> spiritually liberated individual can be in the midst of all such

> bonds but still be unfettered. They are bonds only if you perceive

> them to be so, if they are the steps to further "light" then they

> are that. We would do well to remember that they are self imposed

> and can be untied anytime should we wish to, then they would not be

> stifling or confining any more.

> Regards

> Nalini

> [Om Namah Shivaya Namh Mallikarjunaya]

> , vattem krishnan

> <bursar_99@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Surya ji,

> > is it not the same as:Dharma,Ardha,kama and moskha bhavas spelt

> in jyotish?.may be a blance that needs to be there,But not

certainly

> to be treated as hinderances to spirtual growth.

> > This created shrishti has roles in different way.creation needs

> energy and energy is shakti swaroop and leads to the forms and

> outcomes

> > krishnan

> >

> > surya <dattapr2000@> wrote:

> > There are four strong bonds, which hinder the spiritual

> progress.

> > 1) The bond with the wife 2) The bond with the money 3) The bond

> > with the child 4) The bond with ones body and life.

> >

> > Avadhoota can only be the soul who has cut all these four bonds.

A

> > Sanyasi could cut the first three bonds but not the fourth bond.

A

> > Sanyasi takes food, drinks water, sleeps and leaks the sperm

> > periodically. The Sanyasi avoided the wife but not the desire for

> > the sex. The eating, drinking, sleep and sex are the four

> biological

> > needs of the body. The Avadhoota lives maintaining his body

> without

> > these four needs and his body is beyond the rules of the nature.

> His

> > body is a divine body maintained by the super power (Maya) of the

> > Lord. The state of Avadhoota is complete liberation and such

> > complete salvation is possible only by the complete grace of the

> > Lord. Avadhoota is just an inert house of the Lord. There is no

> soul

> > in that body. The soul also is a part of the nature and so the

> soul

> > becomes a part of the inert house of the Lord. The Avadhoota

> thinks

> > talks or does anything only by the will of the Lord. It is one

> > system and not two in one.

> >

> > Avadhoota is one hundred percent Lord. It is the state of the

goal

> > and there is no journey further. He is called as Siddha and not

> > Sadhaka. Even the Sanyasi is a Sadhaka who is still travelling

> > towards that state. However, a stone can be also equated to

> > Avadhoota because it also has complete salvation but the Lord is

> not

> > dwelling in it. The Salvation must be attained through the

> devotion

> > of the Lord, which will lead to the state of Avadhoota. If simple

> > salvation is attained without devotion it will lead to the state

> of

> > a stone.

> >

> > Among the three bonds the strongest bond is the bond with the

> > children. The wife can help in the spiritual effort (Sadhana) and

> > therefore she is called as `Saha Dharma Charini'. The sex, which

> is

> > a biological need, is a matter of attraction of few minutes or at

> > the maximum few hours. This little time is negligible compared to

> > the long lifetime and the energy dedicated to the Lord. But the

> bond

> > with the children persists in all the times and requires the

> > expenditure of the energy continuously.

> >

> > The Bond with the money also increases due to this bond with

> > children. For the sake of the children people become currupt and

> try

> > to rob others. In such process they are doing lot of injustice.

> The

> > strength of this bond is reduced by realization and with this not

> > only the individual salvation in the upper world is achieved, but

> > also the justice in this world can be easily established. This is

> > the reason why the Lord spoke about the detachment of worldly

> bonds

> > for the establishment of the justice. He says that He is born to

> > establish the Justice, but He does not speak about the rules of

> the

> > Justice. The Government, Police and even the courts quote the

> rules

> > of Justice, which cannot establish the Justice. People are trying

> to

> > misinterpret these rules and win the case.

> >

> > In Gita the Lord attempted for the detachment of these bonds,

> which

> > are responsible for the injustice. He attacked the problem at the

> > basic level. Therefore, the strength of the bond with the

children

> > is proportional to the injustice in the world. This bond also

> > hinders the spiritual elevation. Unless the strongest bond is

cut,

> > salvation is impossible. Without the salvation, the single bond

> with

> > the Lord is impossible.

> >

> > at the lotus feet of shri datta swami

> > surya

> > www.universal-spirituality.org

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND

RELISH

> THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

> >

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dear sir

 

The scriptures say that your sacrifice of money is highest.

 

1) In the very beginning itself (second Adhyaya), Gita says that the

fruit of the work must be sacrificed (Karmajam Buddhi Yuktahi Phalam

Tyaktva Maneeshinah). This means that realized scholars sacrifice

the fruit of the work. Gita keeps sacrifice of the fruit of the work

on the top most level. Gita says `Jnanat dhyanam visishyate, Dhyanat

Karma Phala Tyagah'i.e., Bhakti (devotion) is better than Jnana

(knowledge) and sacrificing the fruit of your work (money) is better

than Bakthi.

 

2) Gita says `Sarva karma Phala tyagam', `prahuh tyagam

vichakshanah' i.e., if you can give the fruit of the entire work to

the Lord, then that is real sacrifice.

 

3)`Na karmana, Na prajaya, Dhanena, tyage naike Amritatvam Aanasuh'

i.e., you cannot attain God by selfish work or the children. You

can attain God only by sacrificing your money for God's work.

 

4)The first words of the first Upanishath (Easavaasyam) says, `Tena

tyaktena Bhunjeedah' `Ma gradha ha kasyasvit Dhanam' i.e., this

entire world is the money of the Lord. Take whatever you require

from His wealth; don't take extra which is not permitted by the

God. If you have taken, you are a thief. Return it back to the

Lord.

 

5) Veda says `Samvidha' `Shraddhayaa' `Hriya' `Bhiya dheyam', i.e.,

return the extra to the Lord in human form after recognizing Him

through His Jnana. Wait patiently till you recognize the Lord in

human form. When you are donating your money to Him (actually you

are giving Him His own money) you should give it with fear and feel

shy.

 

6) In Yoga Vasistha the Guru Vasista says to Rama (Dhanamarjaya)

i.e., bring money and offer it to me as Guru Dakshina before I can

teach you the Jnana.

 

Shirdi Sai used to ask Guru Dakshina from everybody to teach this

important sacrifice. He criticized a merchant who came for Brahma

Jnana but was not giving even Rs.5/- from his pocket. Mr. Patil, a

farmer used to donate the entire yearly crop to Baba and took back

whatever Baba gave back to him.

 

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vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

> Sir,

> since money is the root of this whole `samsara'. This may be a

narrow approach if we consider 'karmabhoomi" as janmabhoomi.All

things have been programmed in shrishti(creation).what matter is

what we choose and the spirit involved in the choice.

> hence the sarcasm"Dhanam moolam idam jagat".Ther are many people

(can be said jyotish way)who may not be having the same philosophy

and know the eluding aspects of shristi and reconcile

> krishnan

[Guest guest]

Oh Swami! I have one question, why not we do duties to our children?

At the same time we shall have all our devotion to the Lord only.

 

Swami: Your suggestion is quite sounding very well to the ears,

But you will find the reality only when you analyse the concept.

One thing we should remember, we should not bring down the sky

To our level since we are standing on the ground and since

We are unable to fly to the height of the sky, let us agree the

truth.

 

It is true that the sky is the goal and it is true that we are on

the ground.

This will make us to start our journey, one day or the other you

will reach sky.

You have to be in the constant effort, God will give you many human

rebirths

Till you reach the goal, but one condition, you should not stop at

any stage.

When you are doing the duty it is love expressed in action, it is

proven love.

It is far greater than the love through words and through mind and

therefore

Your love is ninety nine percent on your children and one percent on

Lord.

The Lord is not at all equal even to your children and just you have

thrown

One paisa on the face of the Lord treating Him as a beggar for your

love.

At the same time you are posing that all your love is on the Lord.

 

It is just the reverse in practice and everything is only the mind

and words.

The proven love consists of sacrifice of five items to the Lord.

The first three items are by the ex-pression of love through words,

mind, and brain.

Through words people sing devotional songs and the emotional

devotion flows

Through the mind, through the brain scholars discuss the nature of

the Lord.

These three constitute the theoretical phase, which has a value of

one paisa only.

It is just like sacrificing drinking water supplied by the

municipality freely.

Similarly these three are already supplied to you by the Lord freely

without any

Effort or strain by you, Indians are very famous in sacrificing

these three items.

 

The fantastic fun is that people sacrifice these three items to the

Lord and

Ask some practical fruit for the sacrifice of these three

theoretical items!

The other two items are practical and their value is ninety-nine

paise.

Those two items are sacrifice of work and sacrifice of fruit of work

In this sacrifice of these two items only lies the entire real

sacrifice.

This alone is the proven love, don't argue that this is impossible

for you.

You are doing the sacrifice of these two items sincerely to your

children.

Therefore you are having real proven love on your children only.

The sacrifice of the first three items is not done in the case of

your children.

That means the sacrifice of these first three items is false

dramatic love.

The word duty which you just uttered constitutes the last two items

only,

Which are the sacrifice of work and sacrifice of fruit of work.

Therefore what is the meaning of your statement that resulted

finally?

You will sacrifice the false love to the Lord and the real love to

your children.

You designate the false love as the real whole love which is

dedication of mind.

Now you say that you have dedicated all your mind to the Lord only!

Fantastic! And you say that you are simply doing duty to your

children!

 

Which is nothing but the real love! How clever you are! You can fool

Any human being in this world but not the Lord who is omniscient.

Oh Gayathri! Let us stick to the truth only atleast before the Lord.

Let us accept frankly our inability to sacrifice all the five items.

 

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"auromirra19" <nalini2818 wrote:

> [Om Namo Narayanaya]

Having been responsible for their coming into the world, it is the

duty of the parents to lead the child till he/she is able to live

independently.The duty also is in making the child aware of the

values, morality so that he is not a burden to the society. What

he/she turns out to be is quite another matter depending again on

the 'Karma balance sheet b/f'. Above all in responsibility to the

child, the parent need not become corrupt, he/she would become so

even if childless if it is an ingrained trait.

> Regards

> Nalini