Journalism or Astrology? 9/4 thanks Sreenadhji

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dear Sreenad ji, Arjun Pandit Ji and other members victims of the group,

 

I am happy at least you took this wexed issue up with good facts and figures,

which RR says is required and will not take anytoing without it and you as much

as me or evryone in the group who have faced this drift can swear now all he

gave to others `what goes around comes around'!

 

I am retaining some important material in tact.

 

THE BEST STAT I CAN RELISH IS THAT RR own page attracts 1 mail in 10 days...

what else proof we need that he has no `light' but sound only.

 

....It supports a reader community of 4810 members!!

You become an imposing presence in this group only after May 2004.

Another 2 groups (may be your own) that I find your strong present

are jyotish-vani which started around Sep 2002 but get a mere below 1

mail per day average, and the crystal_pages group (started in Sep

2002) for which the mail average is a very low 1 mail in 10 days.

This all leads to the conclusion that the main credit for the

popularity of this group goes to long standing members like Tanvir

ji, vattem krishnan ji, Arjun ji, Anil VSNL, deepak_vishnu, Prashant

Kumar G B, tatvam asi and many more, yes of course your contribution

should also be valued.

When I joined this group, I felt that this group is owned by you,

rather than by anybody else, seeing that supervising statements, that

exalted feelings etc. But at this juncture I am seeing that everybody

including well reputed Arjun ji is requesting Tanvir ji to step in

and take proper action against you!!

RR ji, will you clarify one thing - Are you the group owner, or is

it Tanvir ji? If it is you, or Tanvir.

 

 

pandit arjunji's clip....

 

albeit tanvir ji is the group owner, he has always given 100%

freedom to ALL MEMBERS in expressing thier thoughts. however, in

the last few months, RR ji has started criticising each and every

member directly or indirectly...

 

...RR ji can criticise any member in any mail and all shall keep quiet

including the group owner. but if any other member criticise RR ji,

RR ji quickly says "if you have a problem with me or my messages,

dont read them". because of his ownership approach...

 

 

I have devoted as much time as I can on astrology and did not wish to get

into this brawl which RR invites so carelessly atleast now some victims have

woken up

 

GOO MORNING RR hope you have taken your morning coffee and BP pills before

reading your fan mail....!

 

My Thanks all readers

 

Prashant

 

 

Sreenadh <sreesog wrote: Dear RR ji,

>'the present point of power' ???!!!!

That makes me ask my long felt doubt! As I know it,

is a group formed around March 2003. It had a mail strength of 2

mails approx per day then, which grown up to 20 mails per day by the

end of that year. Now by April 2005 it receives an awesome 45 mails

per day!! It supports a reader community of 4810 members!!

You become an imposing presence in this group only after May 2004.

Another 2 groups (may be your own) that I find your strong present

are jyotish-vani which started around Sep 2002 but get a mere below 1

mail per day average, and the crystal_pages group (started in Sep

2002) for which the mail average is a very low 1 mail in 10 days.

This all leads to the conclusion that the main credit for the

popularity of this group goes to long standing members like Tanvir

ji, vattem krishnan ji, Arjun ji, Anil VSNL, deepak_vishnu, Prashant

Kumar G B, tatvam asi and many more, yes of course your contribution

should also be valued.

When I joined this group, I felt that this group is owned by you,

rather than by anybody else, seeing that supervising statements, that

exalted feelings etc. But at this juncture I am seeing that everybody

including well reputed Arjun ji is requesting Tanvir ji to step in

and take proper action against you!!

RR ji, will you clarify one thing - Are you the group owner, or is

it Tanvir ji? If it is you, or Tanvir, I have no objections, but

would just like to know, who it is. Yes, the statement -

>'the present point of power' ???!!!!

makes me think that it is you yourself. If it is so, please tell

these people/crowd that, they shouldn't make these much noise against

the group owner, since he is the supreme power, who got all rights.

If it is not you, I am really confused...Which side to stand

with...You know, I would always like to stand with the weak..

If you are the group owner, you may block me... I don't know…you

know, it is really difficult to predict in such things... But if

you love astrology, for its own cause, then you won't and all of us

will continue enjoy the harmonious relationship here.

Sorry...It is an astrological forum, and I shouldn't write a mail

without any astrological content in it, so the 2 cents:

 

Dear srinivasa murthy ji

The true nature of a Sign/House/Bhava/Planet is inherent in it. So

it is wrong to ask "When that nature will come into effect". For

example, If a person is peace loving by nature it does not mean that

he will NEVER become angry or talk against somebody. If a girl is

born in Aries sign, by nature he will feel attracted towards a boy

born of Leo or Scorpio. But it does not say that, they will never

have a quarrel or that the affection will continue throughout the

life or the like. It depends on several other factors such as

environment, deep understanding of each others merits and interests,

temporary developments, mutual emotional attachment and help,

compaction towards humanity, love for knowledge, interests in similar

subjects, job for livelihood, aim in life etc etc. yes, a thousands

of factors may influence/affect the relation between a male and

female, or 2 males, or 2 females born in Vasya signs. It is better to

understand the deep rooted nature of Sign/House/Bhava/Planet and

temporary effects they provide based on Yoga,Dasa and Gochara

separately.

Love,

Sreenadh

 

, "crystal pages"

<jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> Sreenadh ji,

>

> The comment I made about the effort and medium etc., was a > view/opinion

not a suggested house rule to be imposed in the group :-)

>

> I love 'here and now', 'the present point of power' as Seth stated through

Jane Roberts ...

>

>

> RR

>

>

>

> , "Sreenadh" <sreesog@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear RR ji,

> > That was a pretty good mail!! I really appreciate it! The only point I

find little objectionable is the statement -

> > > That kind of investment of time and efforts are better

justified

> > > in articles and books and not forum messages.

> > We are nobody to decide that!! Let those who post those long

well-

> > organized messages think of that. Others can just enjoy the

fruits

> of

> > that effort. It is upto them.

> > > I was surprised when you took it a bit personally .....

> > Phew.........! I never even thought like that! You are

accusing

> > me!! Don't worry. I am just feeling happy after reading this

> long

> > and very good mail.

> > Ok. Till now I never took anything personally and never intend

to

> > do. But still, even after being an astrologer, I can not comment

> what

> > the future holds in such small issues..you know It entirely

> > depends on the situations and the statements put forward. You

> know

> > the saints ask us to "live in the momentHERE and NOW" )

> > Love,

> > Sreenadh

> >

> > , "crystal pages"

> > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sreenadh ji,

> > >

> > > My personal view in this matter is that, yes -- this is

primarily

> > an

> > > astrology forum so astrology should be discussed,

predominantly.

> > > Astrology can be served here in the following ways:

> > > Readings - preferably with explanations but not necessarily so.

> The

> > > problem with explanations arises because those can be

potentially

> > > confusing to beginners since people used different ayanamshas,

> > > different sets of rules and interpretations, different dasha

> > systems

> > > and so on. Moreover, a full astrological delineation needs many

> > factors

> > > to be considered and writing those out fully takes time. That

> kind

> > of

> > > investment of time and efforts are better justified in articles

> and

> > > books and not forum messages. Giving sketchy mentions of a few

> > factors

> > > or considerations is incomplete and less than useful -- but

that

> is

> > not

> > > to control what anyone wishes to share.

> > >

> > > Astrology can also be served by sharing findings, research,

> > > illustrations all of which are educational. Tatvamasi ji's

recent

> > > sharing, the beautiful elaborations coming from you about Vasya

> > factor

> > > are recent examples of such efforts. Reading such full messages

> as

> > > yours and Tatvamasiji's gives such pleasure that can only

compare

> > with

> > > a beautifully prepared and nourishing meal. Who needs 'snacks'

> > after

> > > such a meal? :-)

> > >

> > > However, there would be other discussions too, some intended,

> > others

> > > not. I will give a recent example. When you first posted the

> > message

> > > about vasya, I felt that this was interesting and I should

probe

> a

> > bit

> > > more because the paradox of both neecha and uchcha playing in

the

> > > phenomenon of attraction was interesting, intriguing and

> > perplexing. I

> > > was surprised when you took it a bit personally and we drifted

> into

> > the

> > > discussion about correlations, logical connections and so on.

The

> > > purpose was not to tease the words or their connotations etc

> > because

> > > this is not a literary forum and neither of us are literary

> > experts.

> > > But you are a genuinely happy and mature person and began

sharing

> > the

> > > information about astrology. I feel my role however tiny in

this

> > > process of birth of knowledge was well worth!

> > >

> > > Astrology is not a dry technical topic. It has the role of

being

> an

> > > almost universal descriptor of the entire range of human

> > experience.

> > > Sometimes we need to examine and analyse the effects before

> > describing

> > > them. A lot in astrology is subject to interpretation and to

some

> > > extent fuzzy. Things can be explained this way, and explained

> > another

> > > way as well. Hence, it is good to exercise our discriminatory

> > abilities

> > > positively. It would be the ideal day when astrologers would

> accept

> > and

> > > welcome challenges and questions and not automatically go in

the

> > > defensive or take those personally. I am sure most of us are

more

> > > secure than that. You have been a shining example of that with

> your

> > > postings lately.

> > >

> > > As to aspertions and allegations of my talking about topics

other

> > than

> > > astrology -- well, as someone posted -- I am not breaking any

> > rules.

> > > Someone may feel that since this is Jyotish_remedies,

discussions

> > > should only be about remedies or whatever. Over the years I

feel

> > secure

> > > in saying that I have written extensively about astrology

> directly

> > and

> > > indirectly all over the place, on paper, in cyberspace and will

> > > continue to write if God wants me to. Those who know that and

> have

> > read

> > > some of what I wrote have generally been appreciative. But, I

rub

> > some

> > > individuals the wrong way and that is fine too. Like I

mentioned

> > > earlier, I am not here for public relations or for elevating my

> > > profile. I am fully aware of my imperfections and I can see

> > > imperfections in others too. So much for this Ego label that

some

> > > individuals blame me for. If my image is coming across like

that,

> > what

> > > can I do? I will not go silent just because certain individuals

> > wish so.

> > >

> > > To the dispassionate bystander/observer, this might seem as the

> > > messenger being attacked for bringing a challenging message, as

> > well as

> > > the other couple of adages I referred to earlier.

> > >

> > > Though I should state clearly my position in all this. I have

> > requested

> > > individuals from not reading my postings if they are constantly

> > > irritated by what I write or how I write. There also seems to

be

> > > developing a mindset that somehow, in this public forum with so

> > many

> > > writers and members, there should be some control over the

> content

> > etc.

> > > How will that ever be possible? Why should it even be done?

> Public

> > > expression must remain free and if it creates some dissonant

> views

> > and

> > > some verbal altercations, that is not so bad. It actually is

good

> > to

> > > see some passion in jyotishis and to evoke where it is

remaining

> > under

> > > the wraps for one reason or another. If I have served a role in

> > being

> > > the catalyst, I have served an important role!

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , "Sreenadh" <sreesog@>

> > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear All,

> > > > After seeing the Hindlish English controversy and many

> previous

> > > mails,

> > > > I feel like asking, is it a forum that share and promote

> > astrological

> > > > knowledge or one in which every message gets a (non-

> astrological)

> > > > journalistic criticism by the newspaper editor critic.

> > > > PS: No offence intended. Just making a simple friendly

comment.

> > > > Love,

> > > > Sreenadh

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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