Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 Hi all Learned Group members, I have a specific problem: My marriage muhurat is been fixed on May 13th 2006 at 2.29 am i.e (according to calender it'll be early morning of 14th may). As was found later, that muhurat is been set in where "Varjyam" exists. Now that most of the aqrrangements have been done like booking of function hall, tickets everything,the shift of the date would mean a very very expensive exercise on both the parties. I request all you guru's to look at this issue and suggest me if any aletrnative exists. For your reference: Stars of Bridegroom: uttara 2nd leg Star of bride: Mrigasira 1st leg. Kindly let me know if u need any further information. Thanks in advance in anticipation of a solution. Krishna --- wrote: > There are 7 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. Global Warming / Atom Bomb Catastrophe > B K <bkgswu > 2. Re: aspects of rahu ketu 1/4 A RETHINK on > Guru and Rahu > "rishi_2000in" > <rishi_2000in > 3. janma nakshtra > "js_sunitha" <js_sunitha > 4. Re: janma nakshtra > Hasmukhrai Mehta > <astroclinik > 5. Re: janma nakshtra > Anan <urvija > 6. Re: I m Facing some typical problem pls > help me > Rahul <rahoole > 7. Re: aspects of rahu ketu 30/3, apr 1 > "Sreenadh" <sreelid > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 1 > Sat, 1 Apr 2006 21:29:31 -0800 (PST) > B K <bkgswu > Global Warming / Atom Bomb Catastrophe > > London 'under water by 2100' as Antarctica crumbles > into the sea By Mark Henderson, Science > Correspondent > THE TIMES MARCH 24 > 2006 > WEB SITE: > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2100776,00.html > > NOTE: ATOM BOMB (Testing or falling) ON SEA CAN > CREATE THE SAME EFFECT IN AN INSTANT……….? > > DOZENS of the world’s cities, including London and > New York, could be flooded by the end of the > century, according to research which suggests that > global warming will increase sea levels more rapidly > than was previously thought. > The first study to combine computer models of > rising temperatures with records of the ancient > climate has indicated that sea levels could rise by > up to 20ft (6m) by 2100, placing millions of people > at risk. > The threat comes from melting ice sheets in > Greenland and Antarctica, which scientists behind > the research now believe are on track to release > vast volumes of water significantly more quickly > than older models have predicted. Their analysis of > events between 129,000 and 116,000 years ago, when > the Arctic last warmed to temperatures forecast for > 2100, shows that there could be large rises in sea > level. > While the Greenland ice sheet is expected to start > melting as summer temperatures in the Arctic rise by > 3C degrees to 5C (5.4F-9F), most models suggest that > the ice sheets of Antarctica will remain more > stable. > The historical data, however, show that the last > time that Greenland became this warm, the sea level > rise generated by meltwater destabilised the > Antarctic ice, leading to a much higher increase > than can be explained by Arctic ice alone. > That means that the models of sea-level rise used > to predict an increase of up to 3ft by 2100 may have > significantly underestimated its ultimate extent, > which could be as great as 20ft. > Such a rise would threaten cities such as London, > New York, Bombay and Tokyo. Large parts of the > Netherlands, Bangladesh and Florida would be > inundated, and even smaller rises would flood > extreme low-lying areas, such as several Pacific > islands and New Orleans. > “Although the focus of our work is polar, the > implications are global,” said Bette Otto-Bliesner, > of the US National Centre for Atmospheric Research > in Boulder, Colorado, who led the study. “These ice > sheets melted before and sea levels rose. The warmth > needed isn’t that much above present conditions.” > Her colleague, Jonathan Overpeck, of the > University of Arizona, said: “This is a real > eye-opener set of results. The last time the Arctic > was significantly warmer than the present day, the > Greenland ice sheet melted back the equivalent of > two to three metres (6ft-10ft) of sea level. > Contrary to what was previously believed, the > research suggests the Antarctic ice sheet also > melted substantially, contributing another 6ft to > 10ft of sea level rise.” > The findings, which are published today in the > journal Science, have emerged from a study that used > data from ancient coral reefs, ice cores and other > natural records to reconstruct the climate during > the last gap between Ice Ages. In this interglacial > period, between 129,000 and 116,000 years ago, > temperatures in the Arctic were between 3C and 5C > above present levels — a similar level to that > predicted for the end of this century. > The scientists found that meltwater from Greenland > raised the sea level by up to 11ft, but coral > records showed that the total global rise was > between 13ft and 20ft. Dr Overpeck said that the > melting of Antarctic ice sheets was the most likely > explanation. As sea levels rose, the floating ice > shelves off the coast of the continent would have > become more likely to break up. That in turn would > have allowed glaciers to dump more ice from the > continent itself into the sea. > He said that this was particularly worrying at > present as the base of the West Antarctic ice sheet > lay below sea level, which would allow ice to escape > to the sea easily. > Several recent studies have indicated that the > Greenland ice sheet, which contains enough water to > raise sea levels by 23ft, and the West Antarctic > sheet, which holds enough for a 20ft rise, are > thinning. Both are expected to take several > centuries to melt completely, but could release > substantial quantities of water by 2100. > Dr Overpeck said that the results added to the > urgency of measures to control the greenhouse gas > emissions contributing to global warming. > > To safe guard from external calamities with the > Power of the Only True Spiritual Knowledge please > contact : http://www.bkwsu.org/ > > > > > New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones > from your PC and save big. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 2 > Sun, 02 Apr 2006 05:31:46 -0000 > "rishi_2000in" <rishi_2000in > Re: aspects of rahu ketu 1/4 A RETHINK on > Guru and Rahu > > Krishnanji, > Change is inevitable, after all our senses and lives > are a function > of time. > The value of Jupiter or Guru cannot be negated in > any age. > Similarly, even in the good old days Rahu and Ketu > played their role > and continue doing so even today. > For what would be good if there is no bad. > For what would be joy if there was no sorrow. > They are all a part of our karma and we need to > reddem ourselves > through our own karmas. > regards > rishi > > > , vattem > krishnan > <bursar_99 wrote: > > > > Dear Friends, > > From Rahu-Ketu to Guru is a traverse certainly > through > Phaladeepika but not of the wiseman shri > Mantreswarji. > > ultimately it comes to that all the evils in > today's society is > due to one of the "guru"s .Be it Deva Guru or Asura > Guru.Incase if > we have to have continuity we must find changed > world as different > from the past.what actually sounds as these > "changes"that are gloomy > and in bad taste only get highlighted and all other > good things > (there are many that have been occuring on day to > day to day basis) > which we may not like to be mentioned. > > In today'ssituation, the order of the world is > Humanbeing is the > best judge of himself and no one likes to be > convinced.This approach > and attitude underscores the need of "guru" and the > advent === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 Dear Friend, Like rahu kalam and durmuhurtam ,varjyam may not be that real issue for has no real astrological significance as seen from muhurta chintamani.In any case please mention place of marraige also to find time variations according to Panchangam.This traditional /conventional belief can also be tackled by Purohit ji in a technical manner.marrige with some kind of pooja(like navagraha pooja,vigneswara pooja) if started before varjyam there will not be problem.Marriage significnace really varies culturally too and region specific event. krishnan krishna kanth <kritels wrote: Hi all Learned Group members, I have a specific problem: My marriage muhurat is been fixed on May 13th 2006 at 2.29 am i.e (according to calender it'll be early morning of 14th may). As was found later, that muhurat is been set in where "Varjyam" exists. Now that most of the aqrrangements have been done like booking of function hall, tickets everything,the shift of the date would mean a very very expensive exercise on both the parties. I request all you guru's to look at this issue and suggest me if any aletrnative exists. For your reference: Stars of Bridegroom: uttara 2nd leg Star of bride: Mrigasira 1st leg. Kindly let me know if u need any further information. Thanks in advance in anticipation of a solution. Krishna --- wrote: > There are 7 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. Global Warming / Atom Bomb Catastrophe > B K <bkgswu > 2. Re: aspects of rahu ketu 1/4 A RETHINK on > Guru and Rahu > "rishi_2000in" > <rishi_2000in > 3. janma nakshtra > "js_sunitha" <js_sunitha > 4. Re: janma nakshtra > Hasmukhrai Mehta > <astroclinik > 5. Re: janma nakshtra > Anan <urvija > 6. Re: I m Facing some typical problem pls > help me > Rahul <rahoole > 7. Re: aspects of rahu ketu 30/3, apr 1 > "Sreenadh" <sreelid > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 1 > Sat, 1 Apr 2006 21:29:31 -0800 (PST) > B K <bkgswu > Global Warming / Atom Bomb Catastrophe > > London 'under water by 2100' as Antarctica crumbles > into the sea By Mark Henderson, Science > Correspondent > THE TIMES MARCH 24 > 2006 > WEB SITE: > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2100776,00.html > > NOTE: ATOM BOMB (Testing or falling) ON SEA CAN > CREATE THE SAME EFFECT IN AN INSTANT……….? > > DOZENS of the world’s cities, including London and > New York, could be flooded by the end of the > century, according to research which suggests that > global warming will increase sea levels more rapidly > than was previously thought. > The first study to combine computer models of > rising temperatures with records of the ancient > climate has indicated that sea levels could rise by > up to 20ft (6m) by 2100, placing millions of people > at risk. > The threat comes from melting ice sheets in > Greenland and Antarctica, which scientists behind > the research now believe are on track to release > vast volumes of water significantly more quickly > than older models have predicted. Their analysis of > events between 129,000 and 116,000 years ago, when > the Arctic last warmed to temperatures forecast for > 2100, shows that there could be large rises in sea > level. > While the Greenland ice sheet is expected to start > melting as summer temperatures in the Arctic rise by > 3C degrees to 5C (5.4F-9F), most models suggest that > the ice sheets of Antarctica will remain more > stable. > The historical data, however, show that the last > time that Greenland became this warm, the sea level > rise generated by meltwater destabilised the > Antarctic ice, leading to a much higher increase > than can be explained by Arctic ice alone. > That means that the models of sea-level rise used > to predict an increase of up to 3ft by 2100 may have > significantly underestimated its ultimate extent, > which could be as great as 20ft. > Such a rise would threaten cities such as London, > New York, Bombay and Tokyo. Large parts of the > Netherlands, Bangladesh and Florida would be > inundated, and even smaller rises would flood > extreme low-lying areas, such as several Pacific > islands and New Orleans. > “Although the focus of our work is polar, the > implications are global,” said Bette Otto-Bliesner, > of the US National Centre for Atmospheric Research > in Boulder, Colorado, who led the study. “These ice > sheets melted before and sea levels rose. The warmth > needed isn’t that much above present conditions.” > Her colleague, Jonathan Overpeck, of the > University of Arizona, said: “This is a real > eye-opener set of results. The last time the Arctic > was significantly warmer than the present day, the > Greenland ice sheet melted back the equivalent of > two to three metres (6ft-10ft) of sea level. > Contrary to what was previously believed, the > research suggests the Antarctic ice sheet also > melted substantially, contributing another 6ft to > 10ft of sea level rise.” > The findings, which are published today in the > journal Science, have emerged from a study that used > data from ancient coral reefs, ice cores and other > natural records to reconstruct the climate during > the last gap between Ice Ages. In this interglacial > period, between 129,000 and 116,000 years ago, > temperatures in the Arctic were between 3C and 5C > above present levels — a similar level to that > predicted for the end of this century. > The scientists found that meltwater from Greenland > raised the sea level by up to 11ft, but coral > records showed that the total global rise was > between 13ft and 20ft. Dr Overpeck said that the > melting of Antarctic ice sheets was the most likely > explanation. As sea levels rose, the floating ice > shelves off the coast of the continent would have > become more likely to break up. That in turn would > have allowed glaciers to dump more ice from the > continent itself into the sea. > He said that this was particularly worrying at > present as the base of the West Antarctic ice sheet > lay below sea level, which would allow ice to escape > to the sea easily. > Several recent studies have indicated that the > Greenland ice sheet, which contains enough water to > raise sea levels by 23ft, and the West Antarctic > sheet, which holds enough for a 20ft rise, are > thinning. Both are expected to take several > centuries to melt completely, but could release > substantial quantities of water by 2100. > Dr Overpeck said that the results added to the > urgency of measures to control the greenhouse gas > emissions contributing to global warming. > > To safe guard from external calamities with the > Power of the Only True Spiritual Knowledge please > contact : http://www.bkwsu.org/ > > > > > New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones > from your PC and save big. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 2 > Sun, 02 Apr 2006 05:31:46 -0000 > "rishi_2000in" <rishi_2000in > Re: aspects of rahu ketu 1/4 A RETHINK on > Guru and Rahu > > Krishnanji, > Change is inevitable, after all our senses and lives > are a function > of time. > The value of Jupiter or Guru cannot be negated in > any age. > Similarly, even in the good old days Rahu and Ketu > played their role > and continue doing so even today. > For what would be good if there is no bad. > For what would be joy if there was no sorrow. > They are all a part of our karma and we need to > reddem ourselves > through our own karmas. > regards > rishi > > > , vattem > krishnan > <bursar_99 wrote: > > > > Dear Friends, > > From Rahu-Ketu to Guru is a traverse certainly > through > Phaladeepika but not of the wiseman shri > Mantreswarji. > > ultimately it comes to that all the evils in > today's society is > due to one of the "guru"s .Be it Deva Guru or Asura > Guru.Incase if > we have to have continuity we must find changed > world as different > from the past.what actually sounds as these > "changes"that are gloomy > and in bad taste only get highlighted and all other > good things > (there are many that have been occuring on day to > day to day basis) > which we may not like to be mentioned. > > In today'ssituation, the order of the world is > Humanbeing is the > best judge of himself and no one likes to be > convinced.This approach > and attitude underscores the need of "guru" and the > advent === message truncated === SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. 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Guest guest Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Sri Krishnan ji, My Marriage is scheduled at Hyderabad.And would be done acording to Telugu brahmin traditions. Although we start Pooja before the varjyam, since the main muhurat, wherein, the Mangalasutra is tied will be falling in Varjyam. Can this be acceptable? Please advice. Thanks and Regards Krishna , vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Dear Friend, > Like rahu kalam and durmuhurtam ,varjyam may not be that real issue for has no real astrological significance as seen from muhurta chintamani.In any case please mention place of marraige also to find time variations according to Panchangam.This traditional /conventional belief can also be tackled by Purohit ji in a technical manner.marrige with some kind of pooja(like navagraha pooja,vigneswara pooja) if started before varjyam there will not be problem.Marriage significnace really varies culturally too and region specific event. > krishnan > > krishna kanth <kritels wrote: > > Hi all Learned Group members, > > I have a specific problem: > > My marriage muhurat is been fixed on May 13th 2006 at > 2.29 am i.e (according to calender it'll be early > morning of 14th may). > > As was found later, that muhurat is been set in where > "Varjyam" exists. > > Now that most of the aqrrangements have been done like > booking of function hall, tickets everything,the shift > of the date would mean a very very expensive exercise > on both the parties. > > I request all you guru's to look at this issue and > suggest me if any aletrnative exists. > > For your reference: > > Stars of Bridegroom: uttara 2nd leg > Star of bride: Mrigasira 1st leg. > > Kindly let me know if u need any further information. > > Thanks in advance in anticipation of a solution. > > Krishna > --- wrote: > > > There are 7 messages in this issue. > > > > Topics in this digest: > > > > 1. Global Warming / Atom Bomb Catastrophe > > B K <bkgswu > > 2. Re: aspects of rahu ketu 1/4 A RETHINK on > > Guru and Rahu > > "rishi_2000in" > > <rishi_2000in > > 3. janma nakshtra > > "js_sunitha" <js_sunitha > > 4. Re: janma nakshtra > > Hasmukhrai Mehta > > <astroclinik > > 5. Re: janma nakshtra > > Anan <urvija > > 6. Re: I m Facing some typical problem pls > > help me > > Rahul <rahoole > > 7. Re: aspects of rahu ketu 30/3, apr 1 > > "Sreenadh" <sreelid > > > > > > > ___________________ ___ > > > ___________________ ___ > > > > Message: 1 > > Sat, 1 Apr 2006 21:29:31 -0800 (PST) > > B K <bkgswu > > Global Warming / Atom Bomb Catastrophe > > > > London 'under water by 2100' as Antarctica crumbles > > into the sea By Mark Henderson, Science > > Correspondent > > THE TIMES MARCH 24 > > 2006 > > WEB SITE: > > > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2100776,00.html > > > > NOTE: ATOM BOMB (Testing or falling) ON SEA CAN > > CREATE THE SAME EFFECT IN AN INSTANT……….? > > > > DOZENS of the world's cities, including London and > > New York, could be flooded by the end of the > > century, according to research which suggests that > > global warming will increase sea levels more rapidly > > than was previously thought. > > The first study to combine computer models of > > rising temperatures with records of the ancient > > climate has indicated that sea levels could rise by > > up to 20ft (6m) by 2100, placing millions of people > > at risk. > > The threat comes from melting ice sheets in > > Greenland and Antarctica, which scientists behind > > the research now believe are on track to release > > vast volumes of water significantly more quickly > > than older models have predicted. Their analysis of > > events between 129,000 and 116,000 years ago, when > > the Arctic last warmed to temperatures forecast for > > 2100, shows that there could be large rises in sea > > level. > > While the Greenland ice sheet is expected to start > > melting as summer temperatures in the Arctic rise by > > 3C degrees to 5C (5.4F-9F), most models suggest that > > the ice sheets of Antarctica will remain more > > stable. > > The historical data, however, show that the last > > time that Greenland became this warm, the sea level > > rise generated by meltwater destabilised the > > Antarctic ice, leading to a much higher increase > > than can be explained by Arctic ice alone. > > That means that the models of sea-level rise used > > to predict an increase of up to 3ft by 2100 may have > > significantly underestimated its ultimate extent, > > which could be as great as 20ft. > > Such a rise would threaten cities such as London, > > New York, Bombay and Tokyo. Large parts of the > > Netherlands, Bangladesh and Florida would be > > inundated, and even smaller rises would flood > > extreme low-lying areas, such as several Pacific > > islands and New Orleans. > > "Although the focus of our work is polar, the > > implications are global," said Bette Otto-Bliesner, > > of the US National Centre for Atmospheric Research > > in Boulder, Colorado, who led the study. "These ice > > sheets melted before and sea levels rose. The warmth > > needed isn't that much above present conditions." > > Her colleague, Jonathan Overpeck, of the > > University of Arizona, said: "This is a real > > eye-opener set of results. The last time the Arctic > > was significantly warmer than the present day, the > > Greenland ice sheet melted back the equivalent of > > two to three metres (6ft-10ft) of sea level. > > Contrary to what was previously believed, the > > research suggests the Antarctic ice sheet also > > melted substantially, contributing another 6ft to > > 10ft of sea level rise." > > The findings, which are published today in the > > journal Science, have emerged from a study that used > > data from ancient coral reefs, ice cores and other > > natural records to reconstruct the climate during > > the last gap between Ice Ages. In this interglacial > > period, between 129,000 and 116,000 years ago, > > temperatures in the Arctic were between 3C and 5C > > above present levels — a similar level to that > > predicted for the end of this century. > > The scientists found that meltwater from Greenland > > raised the sea level by up to 11ft, but coral > > records showed that the total global rise was > > between 13ft and 20ft. Dr Overpeck said that the > > melting of Antarctic ice sheets was the most likely > > explanation. As sea levels rose, the floating ice > > shelves off the coast of the continent would have > > become more likely to break up. That in turn would > > have allowed glaciers to dump more ice from the > > continent itself into the sea. > > He said that this was particularly worrying at > > present as the base of the West Antarctic ice sheet > > lay below sea level, which would allow ice to escape > > to the sea easily. > > Several recent studies have indicated that the > > Greenland ice sheet, which contains enough water to > > raise sea levels by 23ft, and the West Antarctic > > sheet, which holds enough for a 20ft rise, are > > thinning. Both are expected to take several > > centuries to melt completely, but could release > > substantial quantities of water by 2100. > > Dr Overpeck said that the results added to the > > urgency of measures to control the greenhouse gas > > emissions contributing to global warming. > > > > To safe guard from external calamities with the > > Power of the Only True Spiritual Knowledge please > > contact : http://www.bkwsu.org/ > > > > > > > > > > New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones > > from your PC and save big. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > ___________________ ___ > > > ___________________ ___ > > > > Message: 2 > > Sun, 02 Apr 2006 05:31:46 -0000 > > "rishi_2000in" <rishi_2000in > > Re: aspects of rahu ketu 1/4 A RETHINK on > > Guru and Rahu > > > > Krishnanji, > > Change is inevitable, after all our senses and lives > > are a function > > of time. > > The value of Jupiter or Guru cannot be negated in > > any age. > > Similarly, even in the good old days Rahu and Ketu > > played their role > > and continue doing so even today. > > For what would be good if there is no bad. > > For what would be joy if there was no sorrow. > > They are all a part of our karma and we need to > > reddem ourselves > > through our own karmas. > > regards > > rishi > > > > > > , vattem > > krishnan > > <bursar_99@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > From Rahu-Ketu to Guru is a traverse certainly > > through > > Phaladeepika but not of the wiseman shri > > Mantreswarji. > > > ultimately it comes to that all the evils in > > today's society is > > due to one of the "guru"s .Be it Deva Guru or Asura > > Guru.Incase if > > we have to have continuity we must find changed > > world as different > > from the past.what actually sounds as these > > "changes"that are gloomy > > and in bad taste only get highlighted and all other > > good things > > (there are many that have been occuring on day to > > day to day basis) > > which we may not like to be mentioned. > > > In today'ssituation, the order of the world is > > Humanbeing is the > > best judge of himself and no one likes to be > > convinced.This approach > > and attitude underscores the need of "guru" and the > > advent > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > How low will we go? 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Guest guest Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Dear Friend, i think tradition gives importance to muhurtam(jeela kara bella) and is taking place before varjam. As far as mangala sootram during varjam(upto3A.M) can be over come slightly with some vedukalu(for adjustment putpose talambralu).infact as kanyadanam is over there is not much problem.Since it has come in mind,the event slightly needs to be stretched than required.Chandra balam is there as it is poornima day.may be order of talambralu etc are possible to be preponed.best guide is the purohit conducting the function. krishnan kritels <kritels wrote: Sri Krishnan ji, My Marriage is scheduled at Hyderabad.And would be done acording to Telugu brahmin traditions. Although we start Pooja before the varjyam, since the main muhurat, wherein, the Mangalasutra is tied will be falling in Varjyam. Can this be acceptable? Please advice. Thanks and Regards Krishna , vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Dear Friend, > Like rahu kalam and durmuhurtam ,varjyam may not be that real issue for has no real astrological significance as seen from muhurta chintamani.In any case please mention place of marraige also to find time variations according to Panchangam.This traditional /conventional belief can also be tackled by Purohit ji in a technical manner.marrige with some kind of pooja(like navagraha pooja,vigneswara pooja) if started before varjyam there will not be problem.Marriage significnace really varies culturally too and region specific event. > krishnan > > krishna kanth <kritels wrote: > > Hi all Learned Group members, > > I have a specific problem: > > My marriage muhurat is been fixed on May 13th 2006 at > 2.29 am i.e (according to calender it'll be early > morning of 14th may). > > As was found later, that muhurat is been set in where > "Varjyam" exists. > > Now that most of the aqrrangements have been done like > booking of function hall, tickets everything,the shift > of the date would mean a very very expensive exercise > on both the parties. > > I request all you guru's to look at this issue and > suggest me if any aletrnative exists. > > For your reference: > > Stars of Bridegroom: uttara 2nd leg > Star of bride: Mrigasira 1st leg. > > Kindly let me know if u need any further information. > > Thanks in advance in anticipation of a solution. > > Krishna > --- wrote: > > > There are 7 messages in this issue. > > > > Topics in this digest: > > > > 1. Global Warming / Atom Bomb Catastrophe > > B K <bkgswu > > 2. Re: aspects of rahu ketu 1/4 A RETHINK on > > Guru and Rahu > > "rishi_2000in" > > <rishi_2000in > > 3. janma nakshtra > > "js_sunitha" <js_sunitha > > 4. Re: janma nakshtra > > Hasmukhrai Mehta > > <astroclinik > > 5. Re: janma nakshtra > > Anan <urvija > > 6. Re: I m Facing some typical problem pls > > help me > > Rahul <rahoole > > 7. Re: aspects of rahu ketu 30/3, apr 1 > > "Sreenadh" <sreelid > > > > > > > ___________________ ___ > > > ___________________ ___ > > > > Message: 1 > > Sat, 1 Apr 2006 21:29:31 -0800 (PST) > > B K <bkgswu > > Global Warming / Atom Bomb Catastrophe > > > > London 'under water by 2100' as Antarctica crumbles > > into the sea By Mark Henderson, Science > > Correspondent > > THE TIMES MARCH 24 > > 2006 > > WEB SITE: > > > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2100776,00.html > > > > NOTE: ATOM BOMB (Testing or falling) ON SEA CAN > > CREATE THE SAME EFFECT IN AN INSTANT……….? > > > > DOZENS of the world's cities, including London and > > New York, could be flooded by the end of the > > century, according to research which suggests that > > global warming will increase sea levels more rapidly > > than was previously thought. > > The first study to combine computer models of > > rising temperatures with records of the ancient > > climate has indicated that sea levels could rise by > > up to 20ft (6m) by 2100, placing millions of people > > at risk. > > The threat comes from melting ice sheets in > > Greenland and Antarctica, which scientists behind > > the research now believe are on track to release > > vast volumes of water significantly more quickly > > than older models have predicted. Their analysis of > > events between 129,000 and 116,000 years ago, when > > the Arctic last warmed to temperatures forecast for > > 2100, shows that there could be large rises in sea > > level. > > While the Greenland ice sheet is expected to start > > melting as summer temperatures in the Arctic rise by > > 3C degrees to 5C (5.4F-9F), most models suggest that > > the ice sheets of Antarctica will remain more > > stable. > > The historical data, however, show that the last > > time that Greenland became this warm, the sea level > > rise generated by meltwater destabilised the > > Antarctic ice, leading to a much higher increase > > than can be explained by Arctic ice alone. > > That means that the models of sea-level rise used > > to predict an increase of up to 3ft by 2100 may have > > significantly underestimated its ultimate extent, > > which could be as great as 20ft. > > Such a rise would threaten cities such as London, > > New York, Bombay and Tokyo. Large parts of the > > Netherlands, Bangladesh and Florida would be > > inundated, and even smaller rises would flood > > extreme low-lying areas, such as several Pacific > > islands and New Orleans. > > "Although the focus of our work is polar, the > > implications are global," said Bette Otto-Bliesner, > > of the US National Centre for Atmospheric Research > > in Boulder, Colorado, who led the study. "These ice > > sheets melted before and sea levels rose. The warmth > > needed isn't that much above present conditions." > > Her colleague, Jonathan Overpeck, of the > > University of Arizona, said: "This is a real > > eye-opener set of results. The last time the Arctic > > was significantly warmer than the present day, the > > Greenland ice sheet melted back the equivalent of > > two to three metres (6ft-10ft) of sea level. > > Contrary to what was previously believed, the > > research suggests the Antarctic ice sheet also > > melted substantially, contributing another 6ft to > > 10ft of sea level rise." > > The findings, which are published today in the > > journal Science, have emerged from a study that used > > data from ancient coral reefs, ice cores and other > > natural records to reconstruct the climate during > > the last gap between Ice Ages. In this interglacial > > period, between 129,000 and 116,000 years ago, > > temperatures in the Arctic were between 3C and 5C > > above present levels — a similar level to that > > predicted for the end of this century. > > The scientists found that meltwater from Greenland > > raised the sea level by up to 11ft, but coral > > records showed that the total global rise was > > between 13ft and 20ft. Dr Overpeck said that the > > melting of Antarctic ice sheets was the most likely > > explanation. As sea levels rose, the floating ice > > shelves off the coast of the continent would have > > become more likely to break up. That in turn would > > have allowed glaciers to dump more ice from the > > continent itself into the sea. > > He said that this was particularly worrying at > > present as the base of the West Antarctic ice sheet > > lay below sea level, which would allow ice to escape > > to the sea easily. > > Several recent studies have indicated that the > > Greenland ice sheet, which contains enough water to > > raise sea levels by 23ft, and the West Antarctic > > sheet, which holds enough for a 20ft rise, are > > thinning. Both are expected to take several > > centuries to melt completely, but could release > > substantial quantities of water by 2100. > > Dr Overpeck said that the results added to the > > urgency of measures to control the greenhouse gas > > emissions contributing to global warming. > > > > To safe guard from external calamities with the > > Power of the Only True Spiritual Knowledge please > > contact : http://www.bkwsu.org/ > > > > > > > > > > New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones > > from your PC and save big. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > ___________________ ___ > > > ___________________ ___ > > > > Message: 2 > > Sun, 02 Apr 2006 05:31:46 -0000 > > "rishi_2000in" <rishi_2000in > > Re: aspects of rahu ketu 1/4 A RETHINK on > > Guru and Rahu > > > > Krishnanji, > > Change is inevitable, after all our senses and lives > > are a function > > of time. > > The value of Jupiter or Guru cannot be negated in > > any age. > > Similarly, even in the good old days Rahu and Ketu > > played their role > > and continue doing so even today. > > For what would be good if there is no bad. > > For what would be joy if there was no sorrow. > > They are all a part of our karma and we need to > > reddem ourselves > > through our own karmas. > > regards > > rishi > > > > > > , vattem > > krishnan > > <bursar_99@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > From Rahu-Ketu to Guru is a traverse certainly > > through > > Phaladeepika but not of the wiseman shri > > Mantreswarji. > > > ultimately it comes to that all the evils in > > today's society is > > due to one of the "guru"s .Be it Deva Guru or Asura > > Guru.Incase if > > we have to have continuity we must find changed > > world as different > > from the past.what actually sounds as these > > "changes"that are gloomy > > and in bad taste only get highlighted and all other > > good things > > (there are many that have been occuring on day to > > day to day basis) > > which we may not like to be mentioned. > > > In today'ssituation, the order of the world is > > Humanbeing is the > > best judge of himself and no one likes to be > > convinced.This approach > > and attitude underscores the need of "guru" and the > > advent > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > How low will we go? 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Guest guest Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 , vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Dear Friend, > i think tradition gives importance to muhurtam(jeela kara bella) and is taking place before varjam. > As far as mangala sootram during varjam(upto3A.M) can be over come slightly with some vedukalu(for adjustment putpose talambralu).infact as kanyadanam is over there is not much problem.Since it has come in mind,the event slightly needs to be stretched than required.Chandra balam is there as it is poornima day.may be order of talambralu etc are possible to be preponed.best guide is the purohit conducting the function. > krishnan > > kritels <kritels wrote: > > Sri Krishnan ji, > > My Marriage is scheduled at Hyderabad.And would be done acording to > Telugu brahmin traditions. > > Although we start Pooja before the varjyam, since the main muhurat, > wherein, the Mangalasutra is tied will be falling in Varjyam. Can > this be acceptable? > > Please advice. > > Thanks and Regards > Krishna > > , vattem krishnan > <bursar_99@> wrote: > > > > Dear Friend, > > Like rahu kalam and durmuhurtam ,varjyam may not be that real > issue for has no real astrological significance as seen from muhurta > chintamani.In any case please mention place of marraige also to find > time variations according to Panchangam.This > traditional /conventional belief can also be tackled by Purohit ji > in a technical manner.marrige with some kind of pooja(like navagraha > pooja,vigneswara pooja) if started before varjyam there will not be > problem.Marriage significnace really varies culturally too and > region specific event. > > krishnan > > > > krishna kanth <kritels@> wrote: > > > > Hi all Learned Group members, > > > > I have a specific problem: > > > > My marriage muhurat is been fixed on May 13th 2006 at > > 2.29 am i.e (according to calender it'll be early > > morning of 14th may). > > > > As was found later, that muhurat is been set in where > > "Varjyam" exists. > > > > Now that most of the aqrrangements have been done like > > booking of function hall, tickets everything,the shift > > of the date would mean a very very expensive exercise > > on both the parties. > > > > I request all you guru's to look at this issue and > > suggest me if any aletrnative exists. > > > > For your reference: > > > > Stars of Bridegroom: uttara 2nd leg > > Star of bride: Mrigasira 1st leg. > > > > Kindly let me know if u need any further information. > > > > Thanks in advance in anticipation of a solution. > > > > Krishna > > --- wrote: > > > > > There are 7 messages in this issue. > > > > > > Topics in this digest: > > > > > > 1. Global Warming / Atom Bomb Catastrophe > > > B K <bkgswu@> > > > 2. Re: aspects of rahu ketu 1/4 A RETHINK on > > > Guru and Rahu > > > "rishi_2000in" > > > <rishi_2000in@> > > > 3. janma nakshtra > > > "js_sunitha" <js_sunitha@> > > > 4. Re: janma nakshtra > > > Hasmukhrai Mehta > > > <astroclinik@> > > > 5. Re: janma nakshtra > > > Anan <urvija@> > > > 6. Re: I m Facing some typical problem pls > > > help me > > > Rahul <rahoole@> > > > 7. Re: aspects of rahu ketu 30/3, apr 1 > > > "Sreenadh" <sreelid@> > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________ > ___ > > > > > > ___________________ > ___ > > > > > > Message: 1 > > > Sat, 1 Apr 2006 21:29:31 -0800 (PST) > > > B K <bkgswu@> > > > Global Warming / Atom Bomb Catastrophe > > > > > > London 'under water by 2100' as Antarctica crumbles > > > into the sea By Mark Henderson, Science > > > Correspondent > > > THE TIMES MARCH 24 > > > 2006 > > > WEB SITE: > > > > > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2100776,00.html > > > > > > NOTE: ATOM BOMB (Testing or falling) ON SEA CAN > > > CREATE THE SAME EFFECT IN AN INSTANT……….? > > > > > > DOZENS of the world's cities, including London and > > > New York, could be flooded by the end of the > > > century, according to research which suggests that > > > global warming will increase sea levels more rapidly > > > than was previously thought. > > > The first study to combine computer models of > > > rising temperatures with records of the ancient > > > climate has indicated that sea levels could rise by > > > up to 20ft (6m) by 2100, placing millions of people > > > at risk. > > > The threat comes from melting ice sheets in > > > Greenland and Antarctica, which scientists behind > > > the research now believe are on track to release > > > vast volumes of water significantly more quickly > > > than older models have predicted. Their analysis of > > > events between 129,000 and 116,000 years ago, when > > > the Arctic last warmed to temperatures forecast for > > > 2100, shows that there could be large rises in sea > > > level. > > > While the Greenland ice sheet is expected to start > > > melting as summer temperatures in the Arctic rise by > > > 3C degrees to 5C (5.4F-9F), most models suggest that > > > the ice sheets of Antarctica will remain more > > > stable. > > > The historical data, however, show that the last > > > time that Greenland became this warm, the sea level > > > rise generated by meltwater destabilised the > > > Antarctic ice, leading to a much higher increase > > > than can be explained by Arctic ice alone. > > > That means that the models of sea-level rise used > > > to predict an increase of up to 3ft by 2100 may have > > > significantly underestimated its ultimate extent, > > > which could be as great as 20ft. > > > Such a rise would threaten cities such as London, > > > New York, Bombay and Tokyo. Large parts of the > > > Netherlands, Bangladesh and Florida would be > > > inundated, and even smaller rises would flood > > > extreme low-lying areas, such as several Pacific > > > islands and New Orleans. > > > "Although the focus of our work is polar, the > > > implications are global," said Bette Otto-Bliesner, > > > of the US National Centre for Atmospheric Research > > > in Boulder, Colorado, who led the study. "These ice > > > sheets melted before and sea levels rose. The warmth > > > needed isn't that much above present conditions." > > > Her colleague, Jonathan Overpeck, of the > > > University of Arizona, said: "This is a real > > > eye-opener set of results. The last time the Arctic > > > was significantly warmer than the present day, the > > > Greenland ice sheet melted back the equivalent of > > > two to three metres (6ft-10ft) of sea level. > > > Contrary to what was previously believed, the > > > research suggests the Antarctic ice sheet also > > > melted substantially, contributing another 6ft to > > > 10ft of sea level rise." > > > The findings, which are published today in the > > > journal Science, have emerged from a study that used > > > data from ancient coral reefs, ice cores and other > > > natural records to reconstruct the climate during > > > the last gap between Ice Ages. In this interglacial > > > period, between 129,000 and 116,000 years ago, > > > temperatures in the Arctic were between 3C and 5C > > > above present levels — a similar level to that > > > predicted for the end of this century. > > > The scientists found that meltwater from Greenland > > > raised the sea level by up to 11ft, but coral > > > records showed that the total global rise was > > > between 13ft and 20ft. Dr Overpeck said that the > > > melting of Antarctic ice sheets was the most likely > > > explanation. As sea levels rose, the floating ice > > > shelves off the coast of the continent would have > > > become more likely to break up. That in turn would > > > have allowed glaciers to dump more ice from the > > > continent itself into the sea. > > > He said that this was particularly worrying at > > > present as the base of the West Antarctic ice sheet > > > lay below sea level, which would allow ice to escape > > > to the sea easily. > > > Several recent studies have indicated that the > > > Greenland ice sheet, which contains enough water to > > > raise sea levels by 23ft, and the West Antarctic > > > sheet, which holds enough for a 20ft rise, are > > > thinning. Both are expected to take several > > > centuries to melt completely, but could release > > > substantial quantities of water by 2100. > > > Dr Overpeck said that the results added to the > > > urgency of measures to control the greenhouse gas > > > emissions contributing to global warming. > > > > > > To safe guard from external calamities with the > > > Power of the Only True Spiritual Knowledge please > > > contact : http://www.bkwsu.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones > > > from your PC and save big. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________ > ___ > > > > > > ___________________ > ___ > > > > > > Message: 2 > > > Sun, 02 Apr 2006 05:31:46 -0000 > > > "rishi_2000in" <rishi_2000in@> > > > Re: aspects of rahu ketu 1/4 A RETHINK on > > > Guru and Rahu > > > > > > Krishnanji, > > > Change is inevitable, after all our senses and lives > > > are a function > > > of time. > > > The value of Jupiter or Guru cannot be negated in > > > any age. > > > Similarly, even in the good old days Rahu and Ketu > > > played their role > > > and continue doing so even today. > > > For what would be good if there is no bad. > > > For what would be joy if there was no sorrow. > > > They are all a part of our karma and we need to > > > reddem ourselves > > > through our own karmas. > > > regards > > > rishi > > > > > > > > > , vattem > > > krishnan > > > <bursar_99@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > From Rahu-Ketu to Guru is a traverse certainly > > > through > > > Phaladeepika but not of the wiseman shri > > > Mantreswarji. > > > > ultimately it comes to that all the evils in > > > today's society is > > > due to one of the "guru"s .Be it Deva Guru or Asura > > > Guru.Incase if > > > we have to have continuity we must find changed > > > world as different > > > from the past.what actually sounds as these > > > "changes"that are gloomy > > > and in bad taste only get highlighted and all other > > > good things > > > (there are many that have been occuring on day to > > > day to day basis) > > > which we may not like to be mentioned. > > > > In today'ssituation, the order of the world is > > > Humanbeing is the > > > best judge of himself and no one likes to be > > > convinced.This approach > > > and attitude underscores the need of "guru" and the > > > advent > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How low will we go? Check out Messenger's low PC-to- Phone > call rates. > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology software > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 dear friend krishna it is not just muhurtam it is the "SU MUHURTAM". this is the most important part of the marriage ceremony. at this point of time, the "nireekshana" is over and "veekshana" begins. at this auspicious time, when jeera and bellam is mixed and kept near the brahma randhram on the head of each other with right hand, it creats a spark of positive electric energy which has scientific rationale. with that spark of energy, both the groom and the bride are focused on each other and glued to one another and the energy passes through one another and they get connected to one another with this energy, even when they are in public gaze. this is further sanctified by recital of surya suktam and other vedic mantras. rest all things like mangalya dharanam have thier own mythical as well as scientific reasonings but this "SUMUHURTAM" is the moment when you both become one. so please be focused only on this sumuhurtam and not bother too much about other formalities. the important point to note in this SUMUHURTAM is that, with a curtain in between the bride and the groom, they both are connected first through this jeera-bellam created energy and then only they see each other. with best wishes and blessings arjun , vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Dear Friend, > i think tradition gives importance to muhurtam(jeela kara bella) and is taking place before varjam. > As far as mangala sootram during varjam(upto3A.M) can be over come slightly with some vedukalu(for adjustment putpose talambralu).infact as kanyadanam is over there is not much problem.Since it has come in mind,the event slightly needs to be stretched than required.Chandra balam is there as it is poornima day.may be order of talambralu etc are possible to be preponed.best guide is the purohit conducting the function. > krishnan > > kritels <kritels wrote: > > Sri Krishnan ji, > > My Marriage is scheduled at Hyderabad.And would be done acording to > Telugu brahmin traditions. > > Although we start Pooja before the varjyam, since the main muhurat, > wherein, the Mangalasutra is tied will be falling in Varjyam. Can > this be acceptable? > > Please advice. > > Thanks and Regards > Krishna > > , vattem krishnan > <bursar_99@> wrote: > > > > Dear Friend, > > Like rahu kalam and durmuhurtam ,varjyam may not be that real > issue for has no real astrological significance as seen from muhurta > chintamani.In any case please mention place of marraige also to find > time variations according to Panchangam.This > traditional /conventional belief can also be tackled by Purohit ji > in a technical manner.marrige with some kind of pooja(like navagraha > pooja,vigneswara pooja) if started before varjyam there will not be > problem.Marriage significnace really varies culturally too and > region specific event. > > krishnan > > > > krishna kanth <kritels@> wrote: > > > > Hi all Learned Group members, > > > > I have a specific problem: > > > > My marriage muhurat is been fixed on May 13th 2006 at > > 2.29 am i.e (according to calender it'll be early > > morning of 14th may). > > > > As was found later, that muhurat is been set in where > > "Varjyam" exists. > > > > Now that most of the aqrrangements have been done like > > booking of function hall, tickets everything,the shift > > of the date would mean a very very expensive exercise > > on both the parties. > > > > I request all you guru's to look at this issue and > > suggest me if any aletrnative exists. > > > > For your reference: > > > > Stars of Bridegroom: uttara 2nd leg > > Star of bride: Mrigasira 1st leg. > > > > Kindly let me know if u need any further information. > > > > Thanks in advance in anticipation of a solution. > > > > Krishna > > --- wrote: > > > > > There are 7 messages in this issue. > > > > > > Topics in this digest: > > > > > > 1. Global Warming / Atom Bomb Catastrophe > > > B K <bkgswu@> > > > 2. Re: aspects of rahu ketu 1/4 A RETHINK on > > > Guru and Rahu > > > "rishi_2000in" > > > <rishi_2000in@> > > > 3. janma nakshtra > > > "js_sunitha" <js_sunitha@> > > > 4. Re: janma nakshtra > > > Hasmukhrai Mehta > > > <astroclinik@> > > > 5. Re: janma nakshtra > > > Anan <urvija@> > > > 6. Re: I m Facing some typical problem pls > > > help me > > > Rahul <rahoole@> > > > 7. Re: aspects of rahu ketu 30/3, apr 1 > > > "Sreenadh" <sreelid@> > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________ > ___ > > > > > > ___________________ > ___ > > > > > > Message: 1 > > > Sat, 1 Apr 2006 21:29:31 -0800 (PST) > > > B K <bkgswu@> > > > Global Warming / Atom Bomb Catastrophe > > > > > > London 'under water by 2100' as Antarctica crumbles > > > into the sea By Mark Henderson, Science > > > Correspondent > > > THE TIMES MARCH 24 > > > 2006 > > > WEB SITE: > > > > > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2100776,00.html > > > > > > NOTE: ATOM BOMB (Testing or falling) ON SEA CAN > > > CREATE THE SAME EFFECT IN AN INSTANT……….? > > > > > > DOZENS of the world's cities, including London and > > > New York, could be flooded by the end of the > > > century, according to research which suggests that > > > global warming will increase sea levels more rapidly > > > than was previously thought. > > > The first study to combine computer models of > > > rising temperatures with records of the ancient > > > climate has indicated that sea levels could rise by > > > up to 20ft (6m) by 2100, placing millions of people > > > at risk. > > > The threat comes from melting ice sheets in > > > Greenland and Antarctica, which scientists behind > > > the research now believe are on track to release > > > vast volumes of water significantly more quickly > > > than older models have predicted. Their analysis of > > > events between 129,000 and 116,000 years ago, when > > > the Arctic last warmed to temperatures forecast for > > > 2100, shows that there could be large rises in sea > > > level. > > > While the Greenland ice sheet is expected to start > > > melting as summer temperatures in the Arctic rise by > > > 3C degrees to 5C (5.4F-9F), most models suggest that > > > the ice sheets of Antarctica will remain more > > > stable. > > > The historical data, however, show that the last > > > time that Greenland became this warm, the sea level > > > rise generated by meltwater destabilised the > > > Antarctic ice, leading to a much higher increase > > > than can be explained by Arctic ice alone. > > > That means that the models of sea-level rise used > > > to predict an increase of up to 3ft by 2100 may have > > > significantly underestimated its ultimate extent, > > > which could be as great as 20ft. > > > Such a rise would threaten cities such as London, > > > New York, Bombay and Tokyo. Large parts of the > > > Netherlands, Bangladesh and Florida would be > > > inundated, and even smaller rises would flood > > > extreme low-lying areas, such as several Pacific > > > islands and New Orleans. > > > "Although the focus of our work is polar, the > > > implications are global," said Bette Otto-Bliesner, > > > of the US National Centre for Atmospheric Research > > > in Boulder, Colorado, who led the study. "These ice > > > sheets melted before and sea levels rose. The warmth > > > needed isn't that much above present conditions." > > > Her colleague, Jonathan Overpeck, of the > > > University of Arizona, said: "This is a real > > > eye-opener set of results. The last time the Arctic > > > was significantly warmer than the present day, the > > > Greenland ice sheet melted back the equivalent of > > > two to three metres (6ft-10ft) of sea level. > > > Contrary to what was previously believed, the > > > research suggests the Antarctic ice sheet also > > > melted substantially, contributing another 6ft to > > > 10ft of sea level rise." > > > The findings, which are published today in the > > > journal Science, have emerged from a study that used > > > data from ancient coral reefs, ice cores and other > > > natural records to reconstruct the climate during > > > the last gap between Ice Ages. In this interglacial > > > period, between 129,000 and 116,000 years ago, > > > temperatures in the Arctic were between 3C and 5C > > > above present levels — a similar level to that > > > predicted for the end of this century. > > > The scientists found that meltwater from Greenland > > > raised the sea level by up to 11ft, but coral > > > records showed that the total global rise was > > > between 13ft and 20ft. Dr Overpeck said that the > > > melting of Antarctic ice sheets was the most likely > > > explanation. As sea levels rose, the floating ice > > > shelves off the coast of the continent would have > > > become more likely to break up. That in turn would > > > have allowed glaciers to dump more ice from the > > > continent itself into the sea. > > > He said that this was particularly worrying at > > > present as the base of the West Antarctic ice sheet > > > lay below sea level, which would allow ice to escape > > > to the sea easily. > > > Several recent studies have indicated that the > > > Greenland ice sheet, which contains enough water to > > > raise sea levels by 23ft, and the West Antarctic > > > sheet, which holds enough for a 20ft rise, are > > > thinning. Both are expected to take several > > > centuries to melt completely, but could release > > > substantial quantities of water by 2100. > > > Dr Overpeck said that the results added to the > > > urgency of measures to control the greenhouse gas > > > emissions contributing to global warming. > > > > > > To safe guard from external calamities with the > > > Power of the Only True Spiritual Knowledge please > > > contact : http://www.bkwsu.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones > > > from your PC and save big. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________ > ___ > > > > > > ___________________ > ___ > > > > > > Message: 2 > > > Sun, 02 Apr 2006 05:31:46 -0000 > > > "rishi_2000in" <rishi_2000in@> > > > Re: aspects of rahu ketu 1/4 A RETHINK on > > > Guru and Rahu > > > > > > Krishnanji, > > > Change is inevitable, after all our senses and lives > > > are a function > > > of time. > > > The value of Jupiter or Guru cannot be negated in > > > any age. > > > Similarly, even in the good old days Rahu and Ketu > > > played their role > > > and continue doing so even today. > > > For what would be good if there is no bad. > > > For what would be joy if there was no sorrow. > > > They are all a part of our karma and we need to > > > reddem ourselves > > > through our own karmas. > > > regards > > > rishi > > > > > > > > > , vattem > > > krishnan > > > <bursar_99@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > From Rahu-Ketu to Guru is a traverse certainly > > > through > > > Phaladeepika but not of the wiseman shri > > > Mantreswarji. > > > > ultimately it comes to that all the evils in > > > today's society is > > > due to one of the "guru"s .Be it Deva Guru or Asura > > > Guru.Incase if > > > we have to have continuity we must find changed > > > world as different > > > from the past.what actually sounds as these > > > "changes"that are gloomy > > > and in bad taste only get highlighted and all other > > > good things > > > (there are many that have been occuring on day to > > > day to day basis) > > > which we may not like to be mentioned. > > > > In today'ssituation, the order of the world is > > > Humanbeing is the > > > best judge of himself and no one likes to be > > > convinced.This approach > > > and attitude underscores the need of "guru" and the > > > advent > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How low will we go? 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Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Sir, Thanx.well explained and put about sumuhurtam's meaning and necessity krishnan panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: dear friend krishna it is not just muhurtam it is the "SU MUHURTAM". this is the most important part of the marriage ceremony. at this point of time, the "nireekshana" is over and "veekshana" begins. at this auspicious time, when jeera and bellam is mixed and kept near the brahma randhram on the head of each other with right hand, it creats a spark of positive electric energy which has scientific rationale. with that spark of energy, both the groom and the bride are focused on each other and glued to one another and the energy passes through one another and they get connected to one another with this energy, even when they are in public gaze. this is further sanctified by recital of surya suktam and other vedic mantras. rest all things like mangalya dharanam have thier own mythical as well as scientific reasonings but this "SUMUHURTAM" is the moment when you both become one. so please be focused only on this sumuhurtam and not bother too much about other formalities. the important point to note in this SUMUHURTAM is that, with a curtain in between the bride and the groom, they both are connected first through this jeera-bellam created energy and then only they see each other. with best wishes and blessings arjun , vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Dear Friend, > i think tradition gives importance to muhurtam(jeela kara bella) and is taking place before varjam. > As far as mangala sootram during varjam(upto3A.M) can be over come slightly with some vedukalu(for adjustment putpose talambralu).infact as kanyadanam is over there is not much problem.Since it has come in mind,the event slightly needs to be stretched than required.Chandra balam is there as it is poornima day.may be order of talambralu etc are possible to be preponed.best guide is the purohit conducting the function. > krishnan > > kritels <kritels wrote: > > Sri Krishnan ji, > > My Marriage is scheduled at Hyderabad.And would be done acording to > Telugu brahmin traditions. > > Although we start Pooja before the varjyam, since the main muhurat, > wherein, the Mangalasutra is tied will be falling in Varjyam. Can > this be acceptable? > > Please advice. > > Thanks and Regards > Krishna > > , vattem krishnan > <bursar_99@> wrote: > > > > Dear Friend, > > Like rahu kalam and durmuhurtam ,varjyam may not be that real > issue for has no real astrological significance as seen from muhurta > chintamani.In any case please mention place of marraige also to find > time variations according to Panchangam.This > traditional /conventional belief can also be tackled by Purohit ji > in a technical manner.marrige with some kind of pooja(like navagraha > pooja,vigneswara pooja) if started before varjyam there will not be > problem.Marriage significnace really varies culturally too and > region specific event. > > krishnan > > > > krishna kanth <kritels@> wrote: > > > > Hi all Learned Group members, > > > > I have a specific problem: > > > > My marriage muhurat is been fixed on May 13th 2006 at > > 2.29 am i.e (according to calender it'll be early > > morning of 14th may). > > > > As was found later, that muhurat is been set in where > > "Varjyam" exists. > > > > Now that most of the aqrrangements have been done like > > booking of function hall, tickets everything,the shift > > of the date would mean a very very expensive exercise > > on both the parties. > > > > I request all you guru's to look at this issue and > > suggest me if any aletrnative exists. > > > > For your reference: > > > > Stars of Bridegroom: uttara 2nd leg > > Star of bride: Mrigasira 1st leg. > > > > Kindly let me know if u need any further information. > > > > Thanks in advance in anticipation of a solution. > > > > Krishna > > --- wrote: > > > > > There are 7 messages in this issue. > > > > > > Topics in this digest: > > > > > > 1. Global Warming / Atom Bomb Catastrophe > > > B K <bkgswu@> > > > 2. Re: aspects of rahu ketu 1/4 A RETHINK on > > > Guru and Rahu > > > "rishi_2000in" > > > <rishi_2000in@> > > > 3. janma nakshtra > > > "js_sunitha" <js_sunitha@> > > > 4. Re: janma nakshtra > > > Hasmukhrai Mehta > > > <astroclinik@> > > > 5. Re: janma nakshtra > > > Anan <urvija@> > > > 6. Re: I m Facing some typical problem pls > > > help me > > > Rahul <rahoole@> > > > 7. Re: aspects of rahu ketu 30/3, apr 1 > > > "Sreenadh" <sreelid@> > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________ > ___ > > > > > > ___________________ > ___ > > > > > > Message: 1 > > > Sat, 1 Apr 2006 21:29:31 -0800 (PST) > > > B K <bkgswu@> > > > Global Warming / Atom Bomb Catastrophe > > > > > > London 'under water by 2100' as Antarctica crumbles > > > into the sea By Mark Henderson, Science > > > Correspondent > > > THE TIMES MARCH 24 > > > 2006 > > > WEB SITE: > > > > > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2100776,00.html > > > > > > NOTE: ATOM BOMB (Testing or falling) ON SEA CAN > > > CREATE THE SAME EFFECT IN AN INSTANT……….? > > > > > > DOZENS of the world's cities, including London and > > > New York, could be flooded by the end of the > > > century, according to research which suggests that > > > global warming will increase sea levels more rapidly > > > than was previously thought. > > > The first study to combine computer models of > > > rising temperatures with records of the ancient > > > climate has indicated that sea levels could rise by > > > up to 20ft (6m) by 2100, placing millions of people > > > at risk. > > > The threat comes from melting ice sheets in > > > Greenland and Antarctica, which scientists behind > > > the research now believe are on track to release > > > vast volumes of water significantly more quickly > > > than older models have predicted. Their analysis of > > > events between 129,000 and 116,000 years ago, when > > > the Arctic last warmed to temperatures forecast for > > > 2100, shows that there could be large rises in sea > > > level. > > > While the Greenland ice sheet is expected to start > > > melting as summer temperatures in the Arctic rise by > > > 3C degrees to 5C (5.4F-9F), most models suggest that > > > the ice sheets of Antarctica will remain more > > > stable. > > > The historical data, however, show that the last > > > time that Greenland became this warm, the sea level > > > rise generated by meltwater destabilised the > > > Antarctic ice, leading to a much higher increase > > > than can be explained by Arctic ice alone. > > > That means that the models of sea-level rise used > > > to predict an increase of up to 3ft by 2100 may have > > > significantly underestimated its ultimate extent, > > > which could be as great as 20ft. > > > Such a rise would threaten cities such as London, > > > New York, Bombay and Tokyo. Large parts of the > > > Netherlands, Bangladesh and Florida would be > > > inundated, and even smaller rises would flood > > > extreme low-lying areas, such as several Pacific > > > islands and New Orleans. > > > "Although the focus of our work is polar, the > > > implications are global," said Bette Otto-Bliesner, > > > of the US National Centre for Atmospheric Research > > > in Boulder, Colorado, who led the study. "These ice > > > sheets melted before and sea levels rose. The warmth > > > needed isn't that much above present conditions." > > > Her colleague, Jonathan Overpeck, of the > > > University of Arizona, said: "This is a real > > > eye-opener set of results. The last time the Arctic > > > was significantly warmer than the present day, the > > > Greenland ice sheet melted back the equivalent of > > > two to three metres (6ft-10ft) of sea level. > > > Contrary to what was previously believed, the > > > research suggests the Antarctic ice sheet also > > > melted substantially, contributing another 6ft to > > > 10ft of sea level rise." > > > The findings, which are published today in the > > > journal Science, have emerged from a study that used > > > data from ancient coral reefs, ice cores and other > > > natural records to reconstruct the climate during > > > the last gap between Ice Ages. In this interglacial > > > period, between 129,000 and 116,000 years ago, > > > temperatures in the Arctic were between 3C and 5C > > > above present levels — a similar level to that > > > predicted for the end of this century. > > > The scientists found that meltwater from Greenland > > > raised the sea level by up to 11ft, but coral > > > records showed that the total global rise was > > > between 13ft and 20ft. Dr Overpeck said that the > > > melting of Antarctic ice sheets was the most likely > > > explanation. As sea levels rose, the floating ice > > > shelves off the coast of the continent would have > > > become more likely to break up. That in turn would > > > have allowed glaciers to dump more ice from the > > > continent itself into the sea. > > > He said that this was particularly worrying at > > > present as the base of the West Antarctic ice sheet > > > lay below sea level, which would allow ice to escape > > > to the sea easily. > > > Several recent studies have indicated that the > > > Greenland ice sheet, which contains enough water to > > > raise sea levels by 23ft, and the West Antarctic > > > sheet, which holds enough for a 20ft rise, are > > > thinning. Both are expected to take several > > > centuries to melt completely, but could release > > > substantial quantities of water by 2100. > > > Dr Overpeck said that the results added to the > > > urgency of measures to control the greenhouse gas > > > emissions contributing to global warming. > > > > > > To safe guard from external calamities with the > > > Power of the Only True Spiritual Knowledge please > > > contact : http://www.bkwsu.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones > > > from your PC and save big. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________ > ___ > > > > > > ___________________ > ___ > > > > > > Message: 2 > > > Sun, 02 Apr 2006 05:31:46 -0000 > > > "rishi_2000in" <rishi_2000in@> > > > Re: aspects of rahu ketu 1/4 A RETHINK on > > > Guru and Rahu > > > > > > Krishnanji, > > > Change is inevitable, after all our senses and lives > > > are a function > > > of time. > > > The value of Jupiter or Guru cannot be negated in > > > any age. > > > Similarly, even in the good old days Rahu and Ketu > > > played their role > > > and continue doing so even today. > > > For what would be good if there is no bad. > > > For what would be joy if there was no sorrow. > > > They are all a part of our karma and we need to > > > reddem ourselves > > > through our own karmas. > > > regards > > > rishi > > > > > > > > > , vattem > > > krishnan > > > <bursar_99@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > From Rahu-Ketu to Guru is a traverse certainly > > > through > > > Phaladeepika but not of the wiseman shri > > > Mantreswarji. > > > > ultimately it comes to that all the evils in > > > today's society is > > > due to one of the "guru"s .Be it Deva Guru or Asura > > > Guru.Incase if > > > we have to have continuity we must find changed > > > world as different > > > from the past.what actually sounds as these > > > "changes"that are gloomy > > > and in bad taste only get highlighted and all other > > > good things > > > (there are many that have been occuring on day to > > > day to day basis) > > > which we may not like to be mentioned. > > > > In today'ssituation, the order of the world is > > > Humanbeing is the > > > best judge of himself and no one likes to be > > > convinced.This approach > > > and attitude underscores the need of "guru" and the > > > advent > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How low will we go? 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Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 respected pandit arjunji, Thank you for highlighting the sacredness of the Sumuhurtam. I wonder if the present generation truly realise the value of the traditions, the sacredness of the vivaha,saptapadi etc. The explanation given by you for the jeelakara bellam, its importance in the traditional telugu marriages is wonderful. Regards Nalini , vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Sir, > Thanx.well explained and put about sumuhurtam's meaning and necessity > krishnan > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: > dear friend krishna > > it is not just muhurtam it is the "SU MUHURTAM". this is the most > important part of the marriage ceremony. at this point of time, > the "nireekshana" is over and "veekshana" begins. at this > auspicious time, when jeera and bellam is mixed and kept near the > brahma randhram on the head of each other with right hand, it creats > a spark of positive electric energy which has scientific rationale. > with that spark of energy, both the groom and the bride are focused > on each other and glued to one another and the energy passes through > one another and they get connected to one another with this energy, > even when they are in public gaze. this is further sanctified by > recital of surya suktam and other vedic mantras. rest all things > like mangalya dharanam have thier own mythical as well as scientific > reasonings but this "SUMUHURTAM" is the moment when you both become > one. so please be focused only on this sumuhurtam and not bother > too much about other formalities. > > the important point to note in this SUMUHURTAM is that, with a > curtain in between the bride and the groom, they both are connected > first through this jeera-bellam created energy and then only they > see each other. > > with best wishes and blessings > arjun > > > , vattem krishnan > <bursar_99@> wrote: > > > > Dear Friend, > > i think tradition gives importance to muhurtam(jeela kara bella) > and is taking place before varjam. > > As far as mangala sootram during varjam(upto3A.M) can be over > come slightly with some vedukalu(for adjustment putpose > talambralu).infact as kanyadanam is over there is not much > problem.Since it has come in mind,the event slightly needs to be > stretched than required.Chandra balam is there as it is poornima > day.may be order of talambralu etc are possible to be preponed.best > guide is the purohit conducting the function. > > krishnan > > > > kritels <kritels@> wrote: > > > > Sri Krishnan ji, > > > > My Marriage is scheduled at Hyderabad.And would be done acording > to > > Telugu brahmin traditions. > > > > Although we start Pooja before the varjyam, since the main > muhurat, > > wherein, the Mangalasutra is tied will be falling in Varjyam. Can > > this be acceptable? > > > > Please advice. > > > > Thanks and Regards > > Krishna > > > > , vattem krishnan > > <bursar_99@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > Like rahu kalam and durmuhurtam ,varjyam may not be that real > > issue for has no real astrological significance as seen from > muhurta > > chintamani.In any case please mention place of marraige also to > find > > time variations according to Panchangam.This > > traditional /conventional belief can also be tackled by Purohit ji > > in a technical manner.marrige with some kind of pooja(like > navagraha > > pooja,vigneswara pooja) if started before varjyam there will not > be > > problem.Marriage significnace really varies culturally too and > > region specific event. > > > krishnan > > > > > > krishna kanth <kritels@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi all Learned Group members, > > > > > > I have a specific problem: > > > > > > My marriage muhurat is been fixed on May 13th 2006 at > > > 2.29 am i.e (according to calender it'll be early > > > morning of 14th may). > > > > > > As was found later, that muhurat is been set in where > > > "Varjyam" exists. > > > > > > Now that most of the aqrrangements have been done like > > > booking of function hall, tickets everything,the shift > > > of the date would mean a very very expensive exercise > > > on both the parties. > > > > > > I request all you guru's to look at this issue and > > > suggest me if any aletrnative exists. > > > > > > For your reference: > > > > > > Stars of Bridegroom: uttara 2nd leg > > > Star of bride: Mrigasira 1st leg. > > > > > > Kindly let me know if u need any further information. > > > > > > Thanks in advance in anticipation of a solution. > > > > > > Krishna > > > --- wrote: > > > > > > > There are 7 messages in this issue. > > > > > > > > Topics in this digest: > > > > > > > > 1. Global Warming / Atom Bomb Catastrophe > > > > B K <bkgswu@> > > > > 2. Re: aspects of rahu ketu 1/4 A RETHINK on > > > > Guru and Rahu > > > > "rishi_2000in" > > > > <rishi_2000in@> > > > > 3. janma nakshtra > > > > "js_sunitha" <js_sunitha@> > > > > 4. Re: janma nakshtra > > > > Hasmukhrai Mehta > > > > <astroclinik@> > > > > 5. Re: janma nakshtra > > > > Anan <urvija@> > > > > 6. Re: I m Facing some typical problem pls > > > > help me > > > > Rahul <rahoole@> > > > > 7. Re: aspects of rahu ketu 30/3, apr 1 > > > > "Sreenadh" <sreelid@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________ > > ___ > > > > > > > > > > ___________________ > > ___ > > > > > > > > Message: 1 > > > > Sat, 1 Apr 2006 21:29:31 -0800 (PST) > > > > B K <bkgswu@> > > > > Global Warming / Atom Bomb Catastrophe > > > > > > > > London 'under water by 2100' as Antarctica crumbles > > > > into the sea By Mark Henderson, Science > > > > Correspondent > > > > THE TIMES MARCH 24 > > > > 2006 > > > > WEB SITE: > > > > > > > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2100776,00.html > > > > > > > > NOTE: ATOM BOMB (Testing or falling) ON SEA CAN > > > > CREATE THE SAME EFFECT IN AN INSTANT……….? > > > > > > > > DOZENS of the world's cities, including London and > > > > New York, could be flooded by the end of the > > > > century, according to research which suggests that > > > > global warming will increase sea levels more rapidly > > > > than was previously thought. > > > > The first study to combine computer models of > > > > rising temperatures with records of the ancient > > > > climate has indicated that sea levels could rise by > > > > up to 20ft (6m) by 2100, placing millions of people > > > > at risk. > > > > The threat comes from melting ice sheets in > > > > Greenland and Antarctica, which scientists behind > > > > the research now believe are on track to release > > > > vast volumes of water significantly more quickly > > > > than older models have predicted. Their analysis of > > > > events between 129,000 and 116,000 years ago, when > > > > the Arctic last warmed to temperatures forecast for > > > > 2100, shows that there could be large rises in sea > > > > level. > > > > While the Greenland ice sheet is expected to start > > > > melting as summer temperatures in the Arctic rise by > > > > 3C degrees to 5C (5.4F-9F), most models suggest that > > > > the ice sheets of Antarctica will remain more > > > > stable. > > > > The historical data, however, show that the last > > > > time that Greenland became this warm, the sea level > > > > rise generated by meltwater destabilised the > > > > Antarctic ice, leading to a much higher increase > > > > than can be explained by Arctic ice alone. > > > > That means that the models of sea-level rise used > > > > to predict an increase of up to 3ft by 2100 may have > > > > significantly underestimated its ultimate extent, > > > > which could be as great as 20ft. > > > > Such a rise would threaten cities such as London, > > > > New York, Bombay and Tokyo. Large parts of the > > > > Netherlands, Bangladesh and Florida would be > > > > inundated, and even smaller rises would flood > > > > extreme low-lying areas, such as several Pacific > > > > islands and New Orleans. > > > > "Although the focus of our work is polar, the > > > > implications are global," said Bette Otto-Bliesner, > > > > of the US National Centre for Atmospheric Research > > > > in Boulder, Colorado, who led the study. "These ice > > > > sheets melted before and sea levels rose. The warmth > > > > needed isn't that much above present conditions." > > > > Her colleague, Jonathan Overpeck, of the > > > > University of Arizona, said: "This is a real > > > > eye-opener set of results. The last time the Arctic > > > > was significantly warmer than the present day, the > > > > Greenland ice sheet melted back the equivalent of > > > > two to three metres (6ft-10ft) of sea level. > > > > Contrary to what was previously believed, the > > > > research suggests the Antarctic ice sheet also > > > > melted substantially, contributing another 6ft to > > > > 10ft of sea level rise." > > > > The findings, which are published today in the > > > > journal Science, have emerged from a study that used > > > > data from ancient coral reefs, ice cores and other > > > > natural records to reconstruct the climate during > > > > the last gap between Ice Ages. In this interglacial > > > > period, between 129,000 and 116,000 years ago, > > > > temperatures in the Arctic were between 3C and 5C > > > > above present levels — a similar level to that > > > > predicted for the end of this century. > > > > The scientists found that meltwater from Greenland > > > > raised the sea level by up to 11ft, but coral > > > > records showed that the total global rise was > > > > between 13ft and 20ft. Dr Overpeck said that the > > > > melting of Antarctic ice sheets was the most likely > > > > explanation. As sea levels rose, the floating ice > > > > shelves off the coast of the continent would have > > > > become more likely to break up. That in turn would > > > > have allowed glaciers to dump more ice from the > > > > continent itself into the sea. > > > > He said that this was particularly worrying at > > > > present as the base of the West Antarctic ice sheet > > > > lay below sea level, which would allow ice to escape > > > > to the sea easily. > > > > Several recent studies have indicated that the > > > > Greenland ice sheet, which contains enough water to > > > > raise sea levels by 23ft, and the West Antarctic > > > > sheet, which holds enough for a 20ft rise, are > > > > thinning. Both are expected to take several > > > > centuries to melt completely, but could release > > > > substantial quantities of water by 2100. > > > > Dr Overpeck said that the results added to the > > > > urgency of measures to control the greenhouse gas > > > > emissions contributing to global warming. > > > > > > > > To safe guard from external calamities with the > > > > Power of the Only True Spiritual Knowledge please > > > > contact : http://www.bkwsu.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > New Messenger with Voice. 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Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 dear friends be it in the olden era where people used to blindly obey what "elders" said so or the modern matured elite tiny tots who read "tell me why" series in their tender ages, there is a reasoning or rationale behind each and everything, told or untold, known or unknown, scientific or mythical. for ALL HUMANS, this quote from bhuhadaranyaka upanishad applies: Investigate carefully, decide correctly and follow faithfully. the above is further weighted by "yuktiyuktam vakograhyam...." which says: whatever is consistent with right reasoning, ought to be accepted even if told by a smal boy or by a parrot (suka). whatever is inconsistent with right reasoning, ought to be rejected even if told by an old man or by sage suka. in some other scriptures also, parrot (suka) is equated to sage suka and hence even the parrot card reading practiced in rural parts of india shall not be viewed cheaply or in bad light. i have recommended remedies through parrots which produced miraculous results for the natives suffering from long chronic problems. parrot is the most knowledgeful bird (mercury) and can be used in various ways to heal the sufferings. while we discuss various spheres of astrology and each member submits his or her own "understandings" each member shall apply his own logic whether to accept or reject. all telugu knowing members may read the book titled "acharalu - shastriyata" written by patil narayana reddy first published in 1990 which can be procured from his grand-daughter: Patil Manjeera 6-5-748, Near Park, Andhra Bank Colony Anantapuram-515004, Andhra Pradesh Tel # 08554-247394, 9849549171 this books gives reasoning or rationale, mostly based on science and logic for each and every function or ceremony followed in our hindu tradition. unfortunately, i have not yet come to know such book in any other language. with best wishes arjun , "auromirra19" <nalini2818 wrote: > > respected pandit arjunji, > Thank you for highlighting the sacredness of the Sumuhurtam. I > wonder if the present generation truly realise the value of the > traditions, the sacredness of the vivaha,saptapadi etc. The > explanation given by you for the jeelakara bellam, its importance in > the traditional telugu marriages is wonderful. > Regards > Nalini > , vattem krishnan > <bursar_99@> wrote: > > > > Sir, > > Thanx.well explained and put about sumuhurtam's meaning and > necessity > > krishnan > > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > dear friend krishna > > > > it is not just muhurtam it is the "SU MUHURTAM". this is the most > > important part of the marriage ceremony. at this point of time, > > the "nireekshana" is over and "veekshana" begins. at this > > auspicious time, when jeera and bellam is mixed and kept near the > > brahma randhram on the head of each other with right hand, it > creats > > a spark of positive electric energy which has scientific > rationale. > > with that spark of energy, both the groom and the bride are > focused > > on each other and glued to one another and the energy passes > through > > one another and they get connected to one another with this > energy, > > even when they are in public gaze. this is further sanctified by > > recital of surya suktam and other vedic mantras. rest all things > > like mangalya dharanam have thier own mythical as well as > scientific > > reasonings but this "SUMUHURTAM" is the moment when you both > become > > one. so please be focused only on this sumuhurtam and not bother > > too much about other formalities. > > > > the important point to note in this SUMUHURTAM is that, with a > > curtain in between the bride and the groom, they both are > connected > > first through this jeera-bellam created energy and then only they > > see each other. > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > arjun > > > > > > , vattem krishnan > > <bursar_99@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > i think tradition gives importance to muhurtam(jeela kara > bella) > > and is taking place before varjam. > > > As far as mangala sootram during varjam(upto3A.M) can be over > > come slightly with some vedukalu(for adjustment putpose > > talambralu).infact as kanyadanam is over there is not much > > problem.Since it has come in mind,the event slightly needs to be > > stretched than required.Chandra balam is there as it is poornima > > day.may be order of talambralu etc are possible to be > preponed.best > > guide is the purohit conducting the function. > > > krishnan > > > > > > kritels <kritels@> wrote: > > > > > > Sri Krishnan ji, > > > > > > My Marriage is scheduled at Hyderabad.And would be done acording > > to > > > Telugu brahmin traditions. > > > > > > Although we start Pooja before the varjyam, since the main > > muhurat, > > > wherein, the Mangalasutra is tied will be falling in Varjyam. > Can > > > this be acceptable? > > > > > > Please advice. > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > Krishna > > > > > > , vattem krishnan > > > <bursar_99@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > Like rahu kalam and durmuhurtam ,varjyam may not be that > real > > > issue for has no real astrological significance as seen from > > muhurta > > > chintamani.In any case please mention place of marraige also to > > find > > > time variations according to Panchangam.This > > > traditional /conventional belief can also be tackled by Purohit > ji > > > in a technical manner.marrige with some kind of pooja(like > > navagraha > > > pooja,vigneswara pooja) if started before varjyam there will not > > be > > > problem.Marriage significnace really varies culturally too and > > > region specific event. > > > > krishnan > > > > > > > > krishna kanth <kritels@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi all Learned Group members, > > > > > > > > I have a specific problem: > > > > > > > > My marriage muhurat is been fixed on May 13th 2006 at > > > > 2.29 am i.e (according to calender it'll be early > > > > morning of 14th may). > > > > > > > > As was found later, that muhurat is been set in where > > > > "Varjyam" exists. > > > > > > > > Now that most of the aqrrangements have been done like > > > > booking of function hall, tickets everything,the shift > > > > of the date would mean a very very expensive exercise > > > > on both the parties. > > > > > > > > I request all you guru's to look at this issue and > > > > suggest me if any aletrnative exists. > > > > > > > > For your reference: > > > > > > > > Stars of Bridegroom: uttara 2nd leg > > > > Star of bride: Mrigasira 1st leg. > > > > > > > > Kindly let me know if u need any further information. > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance in anticipation of a solution. > > > > > > > > Krishna > > > > --- wrote: > > > > > > > > > There are 7 messages in this issue. > > > > > > > > > > Topics in this digest: > > > > > > > > > > 1. Global Warming / Atom Bomb Catastrophe > > > > > B K <bkgswu@> > > > > > 2. Re: aspects of rahu ketu 1/4 A RETHINK on > > > > > Guru and Rahu > > > > > "rishi_2000in" > > > > > <rishi_2000in@> > > > > > 3. janma nakshtra > > > > > "js_sunitha" <js_sunitha@> > > > > > 4. Re: janma nakshtra > > > > > Hasmukhrai Mehta > > > > > <astroclinik@> > > > > > 5. Re: janma nakshtra > > > > > Anan <urvija@> > > > > > 6. Re: I m Facing some typical problem pls > > > > > help me > > > > > Rahul <rahoole@> > > > > > 7. Re: aspects of rahu ketu 30/3, apr 1 > > > > > "Sreenadh" <sreelid@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________ > > > ___ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________ > > > ___ > > > > > > > > > > Message: 1 > > > > > Sat, 1 Apr 2006 21:29:31 -0800 (PST) > > > > > B K <bkgswu@> > > > > > Global Warming / Atom Bomb Catastrophe > > > > > > > > > > London 'under water by 2100' as Antarctica crumbles > > > > > into the sea By Mark Henderson, Science > > > > > Correspondent > > > > > THE TIMES MARCH 24 > > > > > 2006 > > > > > WEB SITE: > > > > > > > > > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2100776,00.html > > > > > > > > > > NOTE: ATOM BOMB (Testing or falling) ON SEA CAN > > > > > CREATE THE SAME EFFECT IN AN INSTANT……….? > > > > > > > > > > DOZENS of the world's cities, including London and > > > > > New York, could be flooded by the end of the > > > > > century, according to research which suggests that > > > > > global warming will increase sea levels more rapidly > > > > > than was previously thought. > > > > > The first study to combine computer models of > > > > > rising temperatures with records of the ancient > > > > > climate has indicated that sea levels could rise by > > > > > up to 20ft (6m) by 2100, placing millions of people > > > > > at risk. > > > > > The threat comes from melting ice sheets in > > > > > Greenland and Antarctica, which scientists behind > > > > > the research now believe are on track to release > > > > > vast volumes of water significantly more quickly > > > > > than older models have predicted. Their analysis of > > > > > events between 129,000 and 116,000 years ago, when > > > > > the Arctic last warmed to temperatures forecast for > > > > > 2100, shows that there could be large rises in sea > > > > > level. > > > > > While the Greenland ice sheet is expected to start > > > > > melting as summer temperatures in the Arctic rise by > > > > > 3C degrees to 5C (5.4F-9F), most models suggest that > > > > > the ice sheets of Antarctica will remain more > > > > > stable. > > > > > The historical data, however, show that the last > > > > > time that Greenland became this warm, the sea level > > > > > rise generated by meltwater destabilised the > > > > > Antarctic ice, leading to a much higher increase > > > > > than can be explained by Arctic ice alone. > > > > > That means that the models of sea-level rise used > > > > > to predict an increase of up to 3ft by 2100 may have > > > > > significantly underestimated its ultimate extent, > > > > > which could be as great as 20ft. > > > > > Such a rise would threaten cities such as London, > > > > > New York, Bombay and Tokyo. Large parts of the > > > > > Netherlands, Bangladesh and Florida would be > > > > > inundated, and even smaller rises would flood > > > > > extreme low-lying areas, such as several Pacific > > > > > islands and New Orleans. > > > > > "Although the focus of our work is polar, the > > > > > implications are global," said Bette Otto-Bliesner, > > > > > of the US National Centre for Atmospheric Research > > > > > in Boulder, Colorado, who led the study. "These ice > > > > > sheets melted before and sea levels rose. The warmth > > > > > needed isn't that much above present conditions." > > > > > Her colleague, Jonathan Overpeck, of the > > > > > University of Arizona, said: "This is a real > > > > > eye-opener set of results. The last time the Arctic > > > > > was significantly warmer than the present day, the > > > > > Greenland ice sheet melted back the equivalent of > > > > > two to three metres (6ft-10ft) of sea level. > > > > > Contrary to what was previously believed, the > > > > > research suggests the Antarctic ice sheet also > > > > > melted substantially, contributing another 6ft to > > > > > 10ft of sea level rise." > > > > > The findings, which are published today in the > > > > > journal Science, have emerged from a study that used > > > > > data from ancient coral reefs, ice cores and other > > > > > natural records to reconstruct the climate during > > > > > the last gap between Ice Ages. In this interglacial > > > > > period, between 129,000 and 116,000 years ago, > > > > > temperatures in the Arctic were between 3C and 5C > > > > > above present levels — a similar level to that > > > > > predicted for the end of this century. > > > > > The scientists found that meltwater from Greenland > > > > > raised the sea level by up to 11ft, but coral > > > > > records showed that the total global rise was > > > > > between 13ft and 20ft. Dr Overpeck said that the > > > > > melting of Antarctic ice sheets was the most likely > > > > > explanation. As sea levels rose, the floating ice > > > > > shelves off the coast of the continent would have > > > > > become more likely to break up. That in turn would > > > > > have allowed glaciers to dump more ice from the > > > > > continent itself into the sea. > > > > > He said that this was particularly worrying at > > > > > present as the base of the West Antarctic ice sheet > > > > > lay below sea level, which would allow ice to escape > > > > > to the sea easily. > > > > > Several recent studies have indicated that the > > > > > Greenland ice sheet, which contains enough water to > > > > > raise sea levels by 23ft, and the West Antarctic > > > > > sheet, which holds enough for a 20ft rise, are > > > > > thinning. Both are expected to take several > > > > > centuries to melt completely, but could release > > > > > substantial quantities of water by 2100. > > > > > Dr Overpeck said that the results added to the > > > > > urgency of measures to control the greenhouse gas > > > > > emissions contributing to global warming. > > > > > > > > > > To safe guard from external calamities with the > > > > > Power of the Only True Spiritual Knowledge please > > > > > contact : http://www.bkwsu.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones > > > > > from your PC and save big. > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________ > > > ___ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________ > > > ___ > > > > > > > > > > Message: 2 > > > > > Sun, 02 Apr 2006 05:31:46 -0000 > > > > > "rishi_2000in" <rishi_2000in@> > > > > > Re: aspects of rahu ketu 1/4 A RETHINK on > > > > > Guru and Rahu > > > > > > > > > > Krishnanji, > > > > > Change is inevitable, after all our senses and lives > > > > > are a function > > > > > of time. > > > > > The value of Jupiter or Guru cannot be negated in > > > > > any age. > > > > > Similarly, even in the good old days Rahu and Ketu > > > > > played their role > > > > > and continue doing so even today. > > > > > For what would be good if there is no bad. > > > > > For what would be joy if there was no sorrow. > > > > > They are all a part of our karma and we need to > > > > > reddem ourselves > > > > > through our own karmas. > > > > > regards > > > > > rishi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , vattem > > > > > krishnan > > > > > <bursar_99@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > From Rahu-Ketu to Guru is a traverse certainly > > > > > through > > > > > Phaladeepika but not of the wiseman shri > > > > > Mantreswarji. > > > > > > ultimately it comes to that all the evils in > > > > > today's society is > > > > > due to one of the "guru"s .Be it Deva Guru or Asura > > > > > Guru.Incase if > > > > > we have to have continuity we must find changed > > > > > world as different > > > > > from the past.what actually sounds as these > > > > > "changes"that are gloomy > > > > > and in bad taste only get highlighted and all other > > > > > good things > > > > > (there are many that have been occuring on day to > > > > > day to day basis) > > > > > which we may not like to be mentioned. > > > > > > In today'ssituation, the order of the world is > > > > > Humanbeing is the > > > > > best judge of himself and no one likes to be > > > > > convinced.This approach > > > > > and attitude underscores the need of "guru" and the > > > > > advent > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? 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