dear Sri Tatvamasi Ji....Sri Krishnan ji

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Dear Krishnan ji,

Yes Astrologers should be sympathatic ....but to childless couples.

If any body at any stage of my life asks me if he will get male child (after

he or she has girls) my response will remain the same.

Tatvam-Asi

 

vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

Dear Friends,

what ever we debate and discuss it only indicates how the people:"Society"

that is we are under pressure.There is really no body to guide and properly help

them.Living together/marriage/otherwise if man and and women are capable for

propagation,there should be some body to take care of them.Be it male or female

child.If none,mother becomes helpless and can only act as her mind dictates for

that moment.

The tenderness perceived in a female/Girl Child has not to become a burden.It

is we again as part of society misguide them.Science helps in promoting

materialistic views and every thing becomes "for bargain"

In these conditions,we as bearers to take forward values sometimes have to

take a tough stand and ventilate views that are not palatable.

Parentage becomes an obligation irrespective of male and female offspring that

can result.

May be this clarity chatushpadas may not have.But we as dwipadas can think and

do.This is where our role becomes important.

These stories/incidents are pathetic.Necessary however we must help them to

have a child of their liking with the help of science if only it becomes

inevitable.I think we can define when asked to analyse and say what one can

expect with effort.Astrologers no doubt are human beings but certainly

symapthetic to understand problems and help people.

krishnan

 

Tatvamasi <om_tatsat_om wrote:

Hello Ma,

I am posting a Haiku written on the subject of female infanticide prevelant in

Salem district. Read thew anguish of unfortunate mother

 

DEATH OF A GIRL CHILD (haiku)

 

Tearful mother crushed small mouth

Firmly to her milk oozing breast and

The girl child was dead

 

Tatvam-Asi

 

 

 

auromirra19 <nalini2818 wrote:

Sri Krishnan ji,

Science always is a double edged sword , it all is in the hands that

employ it. Instead of embracing the good of Science, human beings

have always craved for the darker side. What was thought to provide

succour to the helpless unwed mothers and victims is misused.What is

society? Are we not society? When individuals of the society , like

the so emanicipated mother in your post behave irresponsibly,

callously, disregarding values who is to blame. How many voices like

that of Sri Tatvamsiji can be heard amidst the cacophony, din caused

by the senseless minds? When a mother herself forces her daughter to

commit female infanticide, what can be said of the much maligned

mother-in-law. A mother is always a mother at heart, whether rural

or metro and if the selflessness of the love is tainted what can be

said of the misfortune of the society.

When most of the offspring of the present times leave for and live

abroad, the parents live in the country of the birth. What does

having a son do to alleviate the loneliness than having a daughter.

Hence it is the primary duty of the parents to care for the children

till they are self sufficient,( as you rightly pointed out) and

thereafter, it does not mean that they become dependent on the

children for various reasons. It is better they are self reliant,

less of expectations-less of frustrations.

These are my humble thoughts, members of the list may excuse if I

have offended anyone.

Regards

Nalini

 

, vattem krishnan

<bursar_99 wrote:

>

> Nalini j,

> it the scince that misleads and the society that markets foe

sexual discremination.we all know mother representing 4th and father

(dual 9th or 10th) join together to fulfil the dreams.yet all pains

for mother whether a boy or girl as she has to take care of them

till they become self dependent.it is long way to go.Craving for boy

appears to have become a matter as the methods deployed for spacing

children became very popular.Astrologically,we have many theories

that can promote the wish of a native.with lack of respect,sincerity

and honesty towrds our values we succumb to science and it

misleads.let me also quote a case of my colleague.

> My friends daughter at a tender age of 22+got married to a boy

and has to move out from parents.it is but natural that in the same

year of marriage she was in the family way.so mother of the girl

went to son in law place to support the newly married lady.I think

after 3 months the young lady was brought to parent's palce.being a

very big city/metro doctors from amnoetic fluid determined the baby

will be a girl.That mattered all to termination in a month's time

under able guidance of metro oriented mother.later the girl was sent

back to son in law place/Now the issues:

> young ladymother became a obsessive compulsive patient.

> she will not move from the bed

> she feels around her bed lot of moving insects

> all dust around and feeling sick

> This pattern of behaviour remained even as on date though after

an year or so they got a male child.The mother yet could not recover

from the experience of termination of pregnancy.

> The wish to avoid unwanted sex (female child) is now available

off the shelf as if Doctors can facilitate nor for that matter.

> 1. Astrology.could be of some positive help to guide but not

medicine.

> 2. Nisheka lagnam and timing of conception as an indepth study

may bless for a male child.

> 3.Astrologers are not Brahmas to create something new

> Let's hope the use of science enlightens but not discriminates

people by sex.whether boy or girl parents have to be contended.

> krishnan

>

> auromirra19 <nalini2818 wrote:

> Pranams.

> The poems were , can you call them poems? They are the reflections

of

> the anguish of the heart, the outburst against the seeking of the

male

> child for lineage. But will the world hear it?

> It can only rant, become oppressive for daring to raise your voice

> against the injustice. Abuse you for the courage to stand up

against

> the all male bastion.

> May your call echo in the wilderness, reverberate and bring back

> compassion and love into (in)humanity.

> God Bless you sir

> Regards

> Nalini

>

>

> , "sahaip123" <sahaip123@>

> wrote:

> >

> > I went thru your poems . they were really beautiful.touched the

> > heart. i have been following the entire dialogue with u and

govind.I

> > stand by your stand. I have adopted a girl child. It is time are

> > quetions regarding issues change.that will be social change in

the

> > true sense. this obsession about the male child must stop. and

who

> > better than learned astrologers to bring it about. I salute u

> > tatvamasiji.

> >

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